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Hello guys.
I'm currently using HTC Legend and I'm pretty sure it's the best phone I ever had.
But yesterday I met HTC Desire HD. Design of this phone is poor, but... ROM is excellent! Sense 2.0, a bunch of new interesting and useful apps..
So, let's see pros & cons:
- We already have DHD Rom ported to Desire +;
- We have all drivers for legend, based on 2.1 (As I know, there are no 2.2 drivers shared on the internet) +;
- I think there will be a ****load of issues due to incompatible screen resolution on Legend -;
- Perfomance issues. 600mhz 384mb versus 1ghz and 512mb. -;
So... Maybe, it's time to start porting?
As far as I know the DHD ROM ported to Desire is not fully functional and still has issues. Having in mind that and the fact that the Desire is much more closer to DHD hardware-wise, I think it won't be possible to have the Sense 2.0 ROM ported for the Legend any time soon.
I have an access to Desire and I intalled DHD ROM on it about a week ago. It's pretty fast, the only one bug I found is not working camera.
Also, hardware does not make any sense, because there are drivers and, I'm sure, it's really easy to replace drivers in DHD ROM (As I said, we have Legend drivers).
Adiost said:
I have an access to Desire and I intalled DHD ROM on them about a week ago. It's pretty fast, the only one bug I found is not working camera.
Also, hardware does not make any sense, because there are drivers and, I'm sure, it's really easy to replace drivers in DHD ROM (As I said, we have Legend drivers).
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"Not working camera" is really serious issue I think! DHD and Desire both have ARM v7 CPUs, Legend has ARM v6 CPU... quite different architectures.
Oh wow... I forgot about cpus.
But... I can't believe it's so hard to port DHD ROM to legend -____- People porting Android 2.3 on WM6.5 device (HD2) now, even if it doesn't make any sense.
just hope it is possible...loved DHD Sense ROm on HD2.....
Maybe it's possible but I doubt if any of the skilled Legend devs will spend time on that...
Adiost said:
Oh wow... I forgot about cpus.
But... I can't believe it's so hard to port DHD ROM to legend -____- People porting Android 2.3 on WM6.5 device (HD2) now, even if it doesn't make any sense.
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Android 2.3 AOSP is open source, HTC Sense is closed source. That means you have to rebuild everything, especially the graphics and CPU.
hmmm...then 2.3 then..
The HTC Wildfire 2 has been spotted! Since it looks like having a 3.2 inch HGVA screen like our Legend, would it be possible to port this ROM to our Legends?
Here's the link: http://www.unwiredview.com/2011/02/14/htc-wildfire-2-also-given-first-press-shot/
I know it hasn't even been officially announced yet, but does it seem plausible? I've always thought the reason we couldn't port HTC Sense 2.0 was because the Desire HD / Desire Z had a different resolution screen to the Legend? I know when the Legend came out its 2.1 ROM was ported to the Hero, so I wonder if this will be possible...
We'll only know if and when it is officially released though. Just a thought.
Sense 2.0 was buggy on the DHD I had one on release and a lot of the features worked only when they wanted to.
alexhtclegend said:
The HTC Wildfire 2 has been spotted! Since it looks like having a 3.2 inch HGVA screen like our Legend, would it be possible to port this ROM to our Legends?
Here's the link: http://www.unwiredview.com/2011/02/14/htc-wildfire-2-also-given-first-press-shot/
I know it hasn't even been officially announced yet, but does it seem plausible? I've always thought the reason we couldn't port HTC Sense 2.0 was because the Desire HD / Desire Z had a different resolution screen to the Legend? I know when the Legend came out its 2.1 ROM was ported to the Hero, so I wonder if this will be possible...
We'll only know if and when it is officially released though. Just a thought.
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I believe this would be possible. Just give us HVGA Sense 2.0 and watch!
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I believe this would be possible. Just give us HVGA Sense 2.0 and watch!
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In that case I hope a Wildfire 2 is released! The only issue I can think about is the potential lack of a trackball, but that didn't stop the DHD ROM being ported to the original Desire, so...
This is all speculation at the moment anyway until we find out tomorrow whether the Wildfire 2 is real or not at the MWC.
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...brings-android-gingerbread-on-a-budget-928653
It's official! The specs look very similar to the Legend - 600mhz processor, same screen, etc.
Now we are waiting for leaked ROM. Maybe we will have 2.3 with Sense 2 soon...
Oh yess, it's comin. When will this new wildfire be released?
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Oh yess, it's comin. When will this new wildfire be released?
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Probably around April.
Someone has started another Wildfire S thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11373424#post11373424
This certainly are good news! Can't wait to run new sense on ginger legend
I wish that my dreams comes true...=)
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I've seen the new sense rom get ported to the nexus one, desire and more phones. i can't wait till i actually have the newest version of sense AND Gingerbread on my pretty little legend
Hi all. I've tried ICS on my IncS and on my Asus transformer TF 101. After a month's use on the Asus and a week's use on the inc s, I've reverted to stock Rom on the Asus and to ARHD (almost stock) on the inc s. Correct me or convince me but I find ICS to be one big step sideways (or is it in the wrong direction)?. Your comments?
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I prefer sense ROMs.
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Sense fanboy rules out this whole statement. Going from cm7 to cm9 is extreme. If I wasn't on a cell I'd elaborate.
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Hi all. I've tried ICS on my IncS and on my Asus transformer TF 101. After a month's use on the Asus and a week's use on the inc s, I've reverted to stock Rom on the Asus and to ARHD (almost stock) on the inc s. Correct me or convince me but I find ICS to be one big step sideways (or is it in the wrong direction)?. Your comments?
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I prefer sense ROMs.
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I guess ICS is a huge step for guys that never tried MIUI or don't like Sense Roms, for those o tried/like MIUI and Sense it is a question of just some more features.
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Hi all. I've tried ICS on my IncS and on my Asus transformer TF 101. After a month's use on the Asus and a week's use on the inc s, I've reverted to stock Rom on the Asus and to ARHD (almost stock) on the inc s. Correct me or convince me but I find ICS to be one big step sideways (or is it in the wrong direction)?. Your comments?
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At least for devices built with/for Sense in mind, when it gets officially combined with ICS by HTC (later this year, they say), it may reveal a new light on the subject.
It might work great and be more stable/smooth and give you the desired Sense functions that current ICS ports don't have.
And only at 4.0.3, ICS may yet have places to go we will have to wait to see.
Maybe you are correct, still.. for now...
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ragapa97 said:
I've tried ICS on my IncS and on my Asus transformer TF 101.
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These two bits of information are key. Try it on a Galaxy Nexus / Nexus S and you may have a differing opinion.
well as st.matt said, you should try it on the galaxy nexus device and then only you will get the real taste of ice crem sandwich!
With better interface,power management,loads of new features...its definitely better than its previous versions.
@StMatt,
I agree better hardware, newer phone goes well with ICS. But does it mean that older phones with less RAM, slower single core processors can run the same OS with all bells & whistles? I have this inc s which I feel.is good enough with ARHD sense 3.0 (even sense 3.5 makes this phone groan & creak), so what is good for THIS device? ICS with all its refinements? Without some 'nice to have features' that Google has deliberately throttled in ICS? Or even the ICS upgrade with sense 3.5, that's due in Q2? Maybe the last option seems best IMHO. Anyone else like to refute?
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@StMatt,
I agree better hardware, newer phone goes well with ICS. But does it mean that older phones with less RAM, slower single core processors can run the same OS with all bells & whistles? I have this inc s which I feel.is good enough with ARHD sense 3.0 (even sense 3.5 makes this phone groan & creak), so what is good for THIS device? ICS with all its refinements? Without some 'nice to have features' that Google has deliberately throttled in ICS? Or even the ICS upgrade with sense 3.5, that's due in Q2? Maybe the last option seems best IMHO. Anyone else like to refute?
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Doesn't have to do specifically with hardware. It means those phones and tablets have better support due to official releases.
Everything else that doesn't have an official release has devs trying their best to get it working, but not everything is working or disabled. Such as most HTC devices.
Sense 3.5 reduced my phone to a laggy mess, which is why I switched to miui. I'd be interested in seeing what the official release of ICS runs like when it's out.
When htc release the update to Ics there will be lots of Ics Roms that are really smooth and fast for the incredible s
yes agree with you. sens + ics in my opinion will be a step forward
I'm waiting too for ICS + sense. Lets get our hopes up..... Or not!
HTC Incredible S - S-Off
Recovery: 4EXT v1.0.0.3 RC3 Touch
Radio: 3322.10.08.28_M
ROM: MIUI
After seeing the ICS ports by StMatt and Virtuous team, I'm having a sneaky, suspicious feeling that ICS + sense will make me wish for going back to gingerbread + sense.
ICS IMO has been a major disappointment, (just like the Niagara Falls have been the second major disappointment in an American bride's life).
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I've been running the Quattro ROM on my phone for almost a month now, and while that ROM does have some customization in it and still has a fair bit of bugs, I'd have a hard time going back to 2.3 even with the Sense. While Sense is really nice, Android before ICS did have a fair bit of lag on it and just didn't feel as smooth as things like iOS. With ICS, moving homescreens, swiping pages in applications, etc. just feels a little more natural and with less lag.
Plus, with Google Chrome for ICS, that's enough reason to go over. Miles above the stock Android browser!
Nik is releasing a sense+ ics rom tomorrow and I can't wait to try it. I tried all the other ics roms that are out for the incs and I have to admit that I'm quite disappointed. I use cm7 before I switched to trinity so niks New rom might be the one for me
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They're disappointments bcuz they're betas! FCs and shortages aside they look charming can't w8 for a miui 4 that's stable
HTC Incredible S - S-Off
Recovery: 4EXT v1.0.0.3 RC3 Touch
Radio: 3322.10.08.28_M
ROM: MIUI
I guess they will truly be stable when htc releases the update at the end of march ... Right now I'm going to flash niks dream rom to tie me down
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Seems like some Microsoft initiated FUD campaign, in order to promote Windows 8; but whaddya know, there may just be some truth in the fact that "ICS has not been well received by phone / tablet manufacturers and ICS acceptance percentages have been way too little"
Maybe there is some truth in the blurb, and maybe the sour grapes feeling in me is really justified....
Read the link.....
http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20120215PD209.html[url]
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Do you think the ICS original rom will receive 3.X kernel?That would be awesome!
One of the roms i installed for my inspire was ICS and sense 4.0 ported from The ONE V, What's the hold up of getting sense 4.0 out for the VIVID? It was slick.. but all the ICS for inspire are Alpha, and they had things like camera or usb tethering issues those are 2 of my must works inorder for me to use a rom.. I ended up getting a fantastic deal on the VIVID so i used one of my upgrades. back to the question since Sense 4 is out why hasnt anyone ported it
The hold is getting people to port it. Not all developers are concerned with that. Sense takes a lot of time to port due to it being intertwined in to the OS.
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Yup. We only have a few devs around, and they're excellent devs. But like megatron said, most of their priorities aren't on a 4.0 port. There is at least one working on a port, last I heard he had run into a snag with the RIL...but was still working on it (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1540442). There are some wonderful 3.6 ROMs floating around though.
wasnt sure how intergrated it was, I havent messed with many strictly Android OS, wasnt sure if sense wasnt just a big app running similar to the launchers. I have messed with basic ICS more than basic GB. I had instantly better experience using CoreDroid on my inspire so I never had a desire to load up MIUI or other senseless roms. I wish I had the patience to program. Well looks like I got a damn good phone coming in, for sure a great hold over till the ONEXL or better comes around.. Ill probably run a sense ICS on the vivid.. I really just want he clock from sense 4.0 and any camera enhancements.
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wasnt sure how intergrated it was, I havent messed with many strictly Android OS, wasnt sure if sense wasnt just a big app running similar to the launchers. I have messed with basic ICS more than basic GB. I had instantly better experience using CoreDroid on my inspire so I never had a desire to load up MIUI or other senseless roms. I wish I had the patience to program. Well looks like I got a damn good phone coming in, for sure a great hold over till the ONEXL or better comes around.. Ill probably run a sense ICS on the vivid.. I really just want he clock from sense 4.0 and any camera enhancements.
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This (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1554077) Sense 4.0 Clock is running OK (flashed wvga/mdpi version). It's obviously not optimized for our screens, but still looks good
homeslice976 said:
This (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1554077) Sense 4.0 Clock is running OK (flashed wvga/mdpi version). It's obviously not optimized for our screens, but still looks good
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This clock is better for the Vivid screen: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1558442
I cant wait for sense 4.0 to come out. 3.6 is ok
How bout the unbuntu app.. anyone using it.. i was going to hold off until a 2+gb ram phone came out, But I would figure this phone could do real well on it. Plus plugged up to the hdmi on a big screen, bluetooth key board phone as mouse or bt mouse, blue tooth game controller.. Onlive App streaming hd video game service.. Im am really looking forward to this phone almost as much as the next wave of phones coming later this year.. Pocket PC's never died.. they took over the phone market.
I run Ubuntu on my phone. It works great. No problems
does anyone know or has anyone heard if the vivid will even get the new sense 4.0 i know the new one X has it but the vivid has no love yet.. thanks
ps3kev said:
does anyone know or has anyone heard if the vivid will even get the new sense 4.0 i know the new one X has it but the vivid has no love yet.. thanks
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Officially (as in from HTC), probably never.
Unofficially, probably after S-Off is released and CM9 is out.
thanks, do u know if there will be an official update to android 4.0.4 or 4.0.5 heard it is fixing alot of issues
ps3kev said:
thanks, do u know if there will be an official update to android 4.0.4 or 4.0.5 heard it is fixing alot of issues
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Define issues, and honestly, since a global rollout has yet to occur, I doubt that upgrades >4.0.3 are going to occur. Maybe the regions that have yet to get ICS may get 4.0.4 or later, if those regions ever release an update.
Honestly, you're probably going to have to wait for CM to give you that.
question????
@ Aus_AZN
Why do you think or what have you heard that indicates no Sense 4 for Vivid?
I'm new to the HTC line and reacquainting myself with Android phones. I had a Moto Droid X a few years ago until it was stolen. I was loving it compared to my old VeriZon semi-smart phone. But then it was liberated.
I also lost everything after the loss of a family member. So I really haven't had a quality phone for the last 2 years until I upgraded to the Vivid. I didn't do much research, I just knew it would be upgradeable to ICS. I only upgraded to it because I was able to get it for $49.99 as an upgrade from a Fry's electronics near me. So far it ROCKS!!!!
Also where is a good or great source to learn more about Sense and what it adds to the phone? I have seen very little here or on the HTC site or AT&T either.
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@ Aus_AZN
Why do you think or what have you heard that indicates no Sense 4 for Vivid?
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HTC has said Sense 3.6 for the Vivid line. 4.0 for the One series and newer.
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@ Aus_AZN
Why do you think or what have you heard that indicates no Sense 4 for Vivid?
I'm new to the HTC line and reacquainting myself with Android phones. I had a Moto Droid X a few years ago until it was stolen. I was loving it compared to my old VeriZon semi-smart phone. But then it was liberated.
I also lost everything after the loss of a family member. So I really haven't had a quality phone for the last 2 years until I upgraded to the Vivid. I didn't do much research, I just knew it would be upgradeable to ICS. I only upgraded to it because I was able to get it for $49.99 as an upgrade from a Fry's electronics near me. So far it ROCKS!!!!
Also where is a good or great source to learn more about Sense and what it adds to the phone? I have seen very little here or on the HTC site or AT&T either.
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Well, the Vivid is definitely upgradeable to ICS, just not Sense 4 ICS. The way Sense 3.6 looks is very similar to the way it looks on GB; you just get the ICS bonuses when you update it.
I for one hope we see sense 4.0 at some point. It's not out of the question. Hopefully after the one line gains some steam they'll update it.
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Many bugs on this update like losing reception when entering a train station then having to manually turn it back on when back outside or rebooting. Lost of audio on games which needs a reboot and the constant upgrading android on reboots. I believe we will get an upgrade to work out the kinks. But doubt a sense update but who knows we got beats audio and sense 3.6. HTC is cool like that
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Cor-master said:
I for one hope we see sense 4.0 at some point. It's not out of the question. Hopefully after the one line gains some steam they'll update it.
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I don't think they'll update it; I think the user community will pull through. There is some efforts being made right now, but a lot of it is blocked courtesy of RIL issues.
dfella30 said:
But doubt a sense update but who knows we got beats audio and sense 3.6. HTC is cool like that
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Yea, but ATT isn't..
homeslice976 said:
Yea, but ATT isn't..
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I've had sprint and t-mobile att is by far better in pricing. They even waved my activation fees and sold me a top of the line phone for 1 cent. While sprint and t-mobile man enough said. Never had verizon but after walking in and looking at the prices I walked out and never went back that was 5 years ago. What its been 5-6 months, fastest update to the latest and greatest ever not to mention we were the first to receive ICS if I'm correct. I think people are upset about the whole no unlimited data thing. But for what I use my phone for its ok haven't even hit a gig yet. Also lowest cancel fee as well. Haven't really needed support yet so don't know about that but S&T forget it.
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All I meant by that is that ATT has been notorious for only providing 1 major update per device (minor security/software patches aside). We got ICS and Sense 3.6 as the update, I don't see, from history, ATT giving us another big update like Sense 4.0
What pisses me off about all the cell phone companies is that they waste technology with greed. This phone among others have 2 CPUs and a monster gpu yet the current software does not utilize it very well at all. Now quads its truly a waste of hardware. When phones like the Samsung epic still does very well. ICS uses more resources and the following android update will use even more, making capable phones unable to be upgraded do to lack of resources. Now as far as sense 4 goes our phones have enough resource to handle the upgrade to not give it is a waste and a greed move. Also I hate reading a phone has 1gb ram but 300 available, its starting to be a joke. Laptops another mobile device that can receive the latest and greatest as long as the hardware is supported, they should just offer upgrades for a price which would guarantee upgrades as long as the hardware meets the requirements and offer them from the play store. And fixes should stay free.
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Really overall the update has been pretty good to me. Some minor quirks here and there but everything works and it seems stable. Sense 3.6 works well just the look of it all gets to me. Coming from a Samsung, touchwiz definitley adds its own look but keeps enough elements that you still know what version of android your running. The way it sounds is htc rebuilt sense from the ground up to look good on the one series but just did some minor tweaking on the updated phones. I still question the call imo. And I don't get why htc feel the need to remove overscroll glow and Crt animations on their roms, very cool effects that SHOULD be enabled! And why is the app drawer so.... Gingerbread looking? And where are the widget previews and why aren't they located in the apartment drawer?
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/02/01/editorial-sense-4-on-ics-one-step-forward-two-steps-back-for-android/ from my HTC PH39100 using XDA
From this article it sounds like 4.0 is more of the same anyway but it's spot on about what bugs me about sense ics
Thanks for the link Cor-Master!!
I may want to back off of Sense and see what ICS really looks like. Who knew HTC was bastardizing ICS so much. Im new to the Vivid so I had no idea what Sense really was. Now I know more and knowing is half the battle!
Yeah and like the author I'm not against custom UIs. In away its what android was all about and it allows manufacturers some freedom in putting their own stamp on Android. But in the case of sense its just too much. A good example is my captivate and it's official gingerbread update. Samsung put their own stamp on I with touchwiz but it still looked and felt like gingerbread. All and all I'd say touchwiz was 80% android. And the launcher wasn't as heavily weaven into the ui as sense so as for me I spent a majority of my time with it on adw ex. But sense is probably 30% stock Android if that. They really went out of there way to make sure android didn't look or feel like android anymore.
I like sense for the most part and the issue is fixable if htc just does a few minor things: #1 kill all the textured menus and use the stock holo theme for everything. #2. Enable all ics animations #3. Keep the notification bar stock. And last but not least #4. Use the stock app drawer. They could keep everything else the same and sense overall would world's better!
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I like Sense. 3.6 is a huge step closer to an AOSP feel than 3.0 or 3.5 was. 4.0 looks even closer. Any way I look at it though, I like what HTC did with Sense. I think it enhances the look of the OS, without compromising resources too badly. It's definitely my favorite Android overlay (over touchwiz, motoblur, etc)...and it's one of the many reasons I bought the Vivid, because I like Sense. If I didn't like Sense, I probably wouldn't have bought HTC. Especially one who's development is a little slower than others.
i guess we just have to wait and see what happens maybe att will release an update for it i dont know
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Officially (as in from HTC), probably never.
Unofficially, probably after S-Off is released and CM9 is out.
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CM Roms are AOSP based and will not contain Sense. CM always use AOSP
Kind of funny but I've been thinking about this. 4.2 is almost an update designed to make bare bones aosp android better, and does almost nothing for a phone with a manufacturer skin. 4.1 would be great on this phone with project butter, better notifications, and Google now, but here's the rundown on 4.2 features:
Better camera app: sense 3.6 already has a nicer one than aosp. No photosphere but its kinda of a gimmick "look what my phone can do" feature anyway. The stock camera app has always sucked until 4.2 and the update finally brings it up to par with custom ui's, but does nothing for us.
Improved lockscreen with widget support : sense pretty much has the best lockscreen with shortcut support and notification widgets that appear through sense apps. Custom widget support would be nice but aosp still doesn't have shortcut support.
Gesture typing: yep, we got it on the stock "touch input" keyboard. next
Quick settings : yep sense has that too
Tv out support : while we don't have miracast support, about every htc device post evo 4G has either an hdmi port or mhl support. I'm sure the vivid is no different, but correct me if I'm wrong.
Better alarm clock app : the aosp alarm clock app has always been an after thought until 4.2,however ui's like sense and touchwiz have always had really nice alarm clock apps and the 4.2 app really just brings stock aosp up to par with the ui's
User profiles: this feature is tablet only and disabled on the phones so the vivid wouldn't get it anyway.
I think that's about it. So there you have it! I really kind of believe 4.2 is catered to nexus devices, and I honestly could see a lot of manufacturers passing on this as if they do update, then it'll be little more than a version number change. If you're in the market for a non nexus phone and it has 4.1, then your already up to date.
Just something I thought about. Thoughts?
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And before anyone calls me out, I got a nexus 7, so I use 4.2 on a daily basis, so I'm not just posting on stuff I've read lol.
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I have a nexus 7 also and personally I'd like to see 4.2 on the vivid because I HATE sense.... Didn't realize how much I didn't like it until I played with pure android. But I'm guessing that if we can't get CM10 to work on this phone, there'd be no reason to worry about 4.2 or not!
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Yeah I'm not to keen on sense either, thought it was awesome until I got a phone with it and had to use it every day. If by some Longshot we get jellybean, I hope it comes with Sense 4+ and not the underwhelming sense 3.6 that's on this phone now. From what I've seen sense 4 is world's ahead of what we have.
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Once cm10 is completed bring 4.2 will be easy as there isn't much difference between 4.1.2 and 4.3 when it comes to making things work
Anyways I love the 4.2 camera...and I think I read others here on the vivid are able to use it on ICS....
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Well I was nearly speaking from the perspective of stock, of course I'd want it for cm, but cm doesn't quite have 4.2 ready yet anyway. I hope you can pull it off, I might keep this thing if I can actually get away from using sense or "desensitized" roms.
Problem is with the development we've had, nothing really seems done. I'm sure there is some way to crack the ril issues, so kudos for not giving up. I know I've complained alot but really the phone is no different on stock than any other phone, it's just development hasn't been so great as the best developers keep giving up on the phone in favor of a galaxy s3 or something else.
From a stock standpoint this is better than my captivate I had before, but I would of hated the captivate if I had to be at the mercy of at&t and Samsung for updates which is where we're at with this phone currently. So best of luck to ya hope you can finally solve the dreaded ril issue!
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Cor-master said:
Well I was nearly speaking from the perspective of stock, of course I'd want it for cm, but cm doesn't quite have 4.2 ready yet anyway. I hope you can pull it off, I might keep this thing if I can actually get away from using sense or "desensitized" roms.
Problem is with the development we've had, nothing really seems done. I'm sure there is some way to crack the ril issues, so kudos for not giving up. I know I've complained alot but really the phone is no different on stock than any other phone, it's just development hasn't been so great as the best developers keep giving up on the phone in favor of a galaxy s3 or something else.
From a stock standpoint this is better than my captivate I had before, but I would of hated the captivate if I had to be at the mercy of at&t and Samsung for updates which is where we're at with this phone currently. So best of luck to ya hope you can finally solve the dreaded ril issue!
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Lol I feel the same...but since I have the phone and at least somewhat knowledge on this stuff I figured I might as well try my best...that being said I hate HTC and will never get another one...this vivid ruined it for me. Like you say, stock wise this phone is great...but that's it. Once you go into the world of custom ROMs this phone takes a major dive to nowhere :/
And honestly...ialthough I will keep trying I don't think I'll personally ever figure out the ril/mic issue...but since we got h8rift now I think we may stand a fighting chance...he is a real dev, I'm just a contributor...hence our titles
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Yeah they can make some beautiful looking phones with excellent build quality but sense hasn't aged well and every post sensation device has been a lot less developer friendly. I almost think they feel insulted that anyone wouldn't want to use sense and feel like their phones are perfect already.
But the one x, one x+, and DROID DNA are all gorgeous looking. Hell really so is our phone. Make no mistake their phones are awesome its just the software that blows.
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