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Hello.
I'm thinking about getting a Galaxy Tab wifi only, but are there any other spec differences between the P1000 and the P1010 other than the missing 3G?
Any known software issues with the P1010?
Thank you
/Henriette
HenrietteK said:
Hello.
I'm thinking about getting a Galaxy Tab wifi only, but are there any other spec differences between the P1000 and the P1010 other than the missing 3G?
Any known software issues with the P1010?
Thank you
/Henriette
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GPU in P1010 is PowerVR SGX530!
IIs that better or worse than the 3G version?
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IIs that better or worse than the 3G version?
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PowerVR SGX540 in P1000 is much faster!
No GPS I think and BT 2.1 instead of 3.0
How much is much faster?
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Don't care about the BT. I think the gps is actually there. Can anyone confirm that?
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No GPS I think and BT 2.1 instead of 3.0
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It does have GPS.
The CPU is also different.
In summary, there are 3 differences:
1. CPU (not much different, I think)
2. GPU (thus can't play 720p smoothly, forget 1080p)
3. Bluetooth (transfer speed is lower)
I own one, and I'm disappointed at the GPU.
So what one does att carry
Thanks. Not getting that one then. Want full power
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HenrietteK said:
Hello.
I'm thinking about getting a Galaxy Tab wifi only, but are there any other spec differences between the P1000 and the P1010 other than the missing 3G?
Any known software issues with the P1010?
Thank you
/Henriette
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1. The P1010 weighs maybe 1 - 5 grams less because you don't need to put a card in it.
2. The WiFi-only only has a 16GB internal memory model.
3. No EDGE, 3G, etc.
Where did you guys get the information regarding the weaker proc? The specs at pdadb.net and gsmarena are just the same? O_O
Unless, of course, they haven't modified it yet. O_O
Galaxy Tab WiFi is OMAP3
I just got a Galaxy Tab WiFi and will be returning it tomorrow.
The SoC is an OMAP3 of some kind. The GPU *is* an SGX530, which is significantly slower than the SGX540 on the Samsung C110 SoC. The OMAPs memory controller is also much slower than the C110s, various other OMAP bits are not up-to-spec compared to C110. The Galaxy Tab WiFi is a joke. Buy a nook color instead: save $100 and get a better LCD.
I'm sure that the product spec page for the Galaxy Tab WiFi said "C110 Applications Processor" a few days ago, now it reads "1GHz A8 Cortex Processor" (which isn't even written correctly, should be "Cortex-A8"...). I was suspicious when someone posted that they had inspected a P1010 ROM and it contained all of the TI OMX libraries, but I didn't believe that Samsung would redo the whole BSP for a product destined to sell zero million units.
I was wrong. Guess I'll wait for the Asus Transformer.
It seems that the firmware / Android version isn't upgradable by normal means.
There is no firmware or Android update selection like the Sprint version.
Kies indicates that the firmware is NOT upgradable.
Anyone know what's going on?
I brought mine yesterday
P1010 decode 720P video is fine (smooth) with stock video player
Screen is so great (actually better than my HD2 w/ Android) , just waiting for the great great xda developer work on the kernel so I can overclock mine...
Here is the list I really like
- ROOT access
- Overclocking , Memory Managerment
- UI Tweak (Using Go launcher at the moment)
pendevous said:
Where did you guys get the information regarding the weaker proc? The specs at pdadb.net and gsmarena are just the same? O_O
Unless, of course, they haven't modified it yet. O_O
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I agree, I haven't seen anything definitive yet that shows it has the weaker CPU. Can any of you smart xda people who has either broken one open (not me, ...yet) or studied the code give a somewhat more definitive answer? I've had mine for 2 weeks now. I'm happy with its performance. But I know I'm going to want to play with the innards down the road. Is it really that much different from the tab phones?
Any update on this? I was going to get a WiFi tab but having second thoughts now...
@victor888 - what app did you use to play the 720p files, RockPlayer?
It is apparently different...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1054872
the P1010 is not Bluetooth keyboard Compatible (No HID inside). apparently does not support video output through HDMI cable, please advise if anyone is working.
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Update... Solved Bluetooth compatibility.
Hi.
I could connect my bluetooth keyboard to my Galaxy Tab P1010 (only WIFI) by an application from the Android Market. This application is called "BlueKeyboard JP". I am using Stock GingerBread Rom.
greetings.
Tested it
Hey there,
I have read a lot about the differences of these Tabs, but I have not seen some real results.
So I just bought both of them... And I compared:
Fazit: the GT-P1000 is really faster then the GT-P1010!
I have made a screenshot of both Tabs. P1010 with Android 2.2.1 and P1000 with Android 2.2 with nothing running then Quadrant.
The results are:
P1000: 1090 Points
P1010: 691 Points
You can feel the differences by browsing, sliding the top bar down and using the back and home button.
I don't have pictures of the Hardwareinfos, but I lookes at them and there are a lot of differences. The CPU is the same. But the GPU is a [email protected] and a [email protected] All sensors are different and other things. [email protected] and [email protected]
I will make pictures and a list of all differences, if someone want's it.
Greetz,
Tillmet
I don't trust in Quadrant benchmark. If you use OCLF in the P1010 the result overpast the 1000 points.
In game I have good performace +-30fps in HD gameloft titles, like Eternal Legacy, Dungeon Hunter, etc. In video performace the P1010 play 720p h.263 very well (test it with the free Big Buck Bunny Movie 720p mp4, the picture quality is awesome) ;no so well with h.264 that need be 480p with a baseline level 3.0 profile.
Yes, is no so powerfull like the P1000 but with the price I am satisfied with it.
Ps. Android System Info show OpenGL 1.1 same that the P1000.
I want to buy a Galaxy S but... which is better? Galaxy S Plus has a few custom roms.. But its 1400 mhz.. hummingbird or scorpion? I'm a noob on these smartphones. some people say Galaxy S's processor is better than SGS+'s.. Which could I buy? Thanks.
I will recommend paying a few more and go for galaxy r .
Samsung Hummingbird is the best single-core chipset. ARM Cortex-A8 with PowerVR SGX540 = awesome combination.
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The sgs+ is better compared to hardware, (there is the + for) but in my opinion the sgs is a better choice cause there are more people with this phone.. more people = more devs = more custom roms
And if you can pay more.. sgs2 is a much better choice
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I agree with you. i9001 have a better hardware but have less devs working on them!
i9000 by far. Much more software, and in my opinion better machine.
BR
I'm running 1400 mhz on stock voltage of 1000 mhz. And -125 mv undervolted all of other frequencies.
Also I have a hummingbird + powervr 540 gpu
So I have Galaxy S+++
I9000 to the win
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i9000+ will provide better web experience from the start thanks to higher cpu frequency, but you can oc i9000 to get pretty much the same effect. You need to decide whether you want customize your phone or use as it is straight grom the box. In terms of graphics i9000 crushes the i9000+, because it's powered by powervr540 while i9000+ uses adreno205 which is older and slower. Also there's the community backup thing. i9000 is one of the most popular and supprted android phones and this will continue even though much more powerful devices are released. It's just so user friendly in so many ways you can't ignore it. My vote would be for i9000, but it all comes down to what do you want from your phone and what are you going to use it for. Either way you go, you'll ebd up with a great sammy phone.
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i9001 is a nice choice, but i9000 better because of community and official samsung support.
I'll recommend u to look at the LG Optimus Black - it has almost the same price/specs but it's a newer model, so u'll get a support for a longer time...
I was in same situation as you, I choosed i9000 and I don't regret it - you can OC the CPU and the PowerVR SGX540 is much better than Adreno 205 + more ROMs and mods, bigger community, more people with this phone. I get around 3500 score in Quadrant benchmark.
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Look guys i know all people owning the i9000 are very proud of the powervr sgx540 gpu it uses, but actually adreno 205 is better than sgx 540, samsung has recently updated the adreno 205 gpu drivers in the galaxy w which uses the same chipset as the i9001, those who have the i9001 can download these egl drivers from here "http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1376462"
i have personally tested both the phones. the i9001 is in fact a good choice, the 1.4 ghz snapdragon cpu is the best single core processor i have seen, I don't want to hurt anyone here but all phones get old after sometime, the i9000 cant stay on the top always,and now we have the dual cores ready to woop our ares anytime
galaxy s i9000
for sure
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Definitely the I9000! The latest stock rom (JW1) is incredibly smooth!
nail16 said:
Look guys i know all people owning the i9000 are very proud of the powervr sgx540 gpu it uses, but actually adreno 205 is better than sgx 540, samsung has recently updated the adreno 205 gpu drivers in the galaxy w which uses the same chipset as the i9001, those who have the i9001 can download these egl drivers from here "http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1376462"
i have personally tested both the phones. the i9001 is in fact a good choice, the 1.4 ghz snapdragon cpu is the best single core processor i have seen, I don't want to hurt anyone here but all phones get old after sometime, the i9000 cant stay on the top always,and now we have the dual cores ready to woop our ares anytime
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The Adreno 205 is not better, it's a piece of crap actually. 265m fillrate? that is the same as PowerVR MBX lite. PowerVR GPUs have much higher fillrate 1G fillrate which ensures gameloft games can be rendered with A.I. with lots of activities on screen. Adreno 205 renders OpenGL benchmark at very low choppy frame rates with disappearing polygons while PowerVR GSX 540 runs it smoothly without graphics glitches.
The 1.4GHz snapdragon processor is indeed better for multi-tasking, but what is the use of a faster processor with a combination of a ****ty GPU?
Not everybody is dependant on a gamer GPU. I personally don't play any games at all on my phone. So this depends on what you want your phone to deliver.
Go for Galaxy R
Go for Galaxy R, as samsung will be providing ICS for Galaxy R and Galaxy S2....
puneetgandhi said:
Go for Galaxy R, as samsung will be providing ICS for Galaxy R and Galaxy S2....
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Isn't that only available for Roger's network in the USA and not worldwide?
you can't get the answer here... because most of the guys here have Galaxy S i9000, so they have to defend they're own device lol!!! and for all you guys here who doesn't know anything about "GPU's" i can give you a quiick info. here is a simple benchmark by two of the most respectable benchmarking groups anandtech and mobiletechworld.
http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2010...-vs-sgx540-htc-desire-hd-vs-samsung-galaxy-s/
PowerVR SGX540 is a beast but Adreno 205 held its floor against it and wins by inches at the majority of categories. (slap on the face of the sgx540) users hahahahaha :silly:
I want to buy a new phone, and just want to ask it worth to buy galaxy s or should i go for another phone??
lopman said:
I want to buy a new phone, and just want to ask it worth to buy galaxy s or should i go for another phone??
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That kind of depends on what you're looking for in a phone. I have a Galaxy S, and I'm very happy with it. However, it's now been replaced by the "Galaxy SII", which is probably considered "nicer" by most people (slightly better screen, faster dual-core CPU, etc, etc). The SII will be more expensive, so that may be a factor for you.
If you want a phone that just works, can play .mp3 files and games, and has good screen and memory as standard, then the Galaxy S will do all that and more.
Thanks for your reply.... i was more interested in is it a good phone to root and does it have many stable costum roms
lopman said:
Thanks for your reply.... i was more interested in is it a good phone to root and does it have many stable costum roms
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Yes; very easy to root; has a wide choice of custom roms; is "officially" supported by CM7; and the community is working very hard to port ICS to this phone. Also very hard to "permanently" break from a custom-rom point of view - "download mode" means almost any other problem is fixable.
I got one more question before i buy it..... which one is best galaxy s plus or galaxy s
There are a lot more ROMs out there for the SGS compared to the SGS+, although some/most (not sure about this...) will work on both phones..
I don't have any experience with the SGS+, but if you're looking for ease of rooting and ROM choice, I'd go for the standard SGS
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There are a lot more ROMs out there for the SGS compared to the SGS+, although some/most (not sure about this...) will work on both phones..
I don't have any experience with the SGS+, but if you're looking for ease of rooting and ROM choice, I'd go for the standard SGS
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Thats true. So i would also say I9000.
galaxy s
I have an option to buy my friends galaxy s which is used for a year in good condition. The i9000 is discontinued in india for some reason, and worse phones like the galaxy s plus and lcd are introduced. I just wanna know if its worth buying the galaxy s now or should i wait for the galaxy s advance so i'm more upto date on the technology? Personally i feel the i9000 was a phone ahead of its time when it was released it still can beat any 2011 single core 1ghz phone and the sgx540 is used in the galaxy nexus too so it must be a pretty good gpu. I just need your opinion on this. Thanks
Both S and S+ are great phones.
If you prefer lots of custom roms then you can go on SGS, but if you like faster cpu (can be overclocked at 2 ghz) and stronger battery life like me, then SGS+ is obvious choice at similar price range.
But don't you think if we use the sgs+ battery in the sgs and overclock it to 1.4ghz,the hummingbird would perform better than a scorpion running at 2ghz? I'm talking about overall performance which is including the processor and gpu.
Am not sure about that.
Adreno 205 is very good gpu used also in Xperia Play for example.
Together with 2ghz processor is still better solution for me.
I found this comparision test between two gpus:
http://www.grandmax.net/2010/10/adreno-205-vs-powervr-sgx540-mobile-gpu.html
Thats an old comparison between android 2.1 and 2.2 obviously there will be a big difference, according to the latest benchmarks the gpu's rank as mali400-adreno220-sgx540-geforce-adreno205.
Can you provide a link with those latest benchmarks, i like to read it.
Thanks.
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Can you provide a link with those latest benchmarks, i like to read it.
Thanks.
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forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1050968
After reading this thread my conclusion and answer to your original question remained the same.
These two phones are very similar to the overall strength and the only difference is in relation to the CPU/GPU.
However i9000 is discontinued and is more logical for me, to purchase a new model as his closest successor.
My feeling is the galaxy s if you are after adding custom roms to your phone. The community is massive. Personally I don't think the other phone will compare. Remember the S2 has actually replaced the galaxy s. I say this as the S was samsungs frontline phone at the time. All others are rehashed s phones aimed at a different market segment. If you are going to get a new phone i would go for the s2 or possible wait for s3. If you need it now i would get s
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Yea i think i'll go for the S itself, S2 is way too expensive, the price hasn't fallen since its launch a year back nd besides i'm gettin the s for 1/3 the price of the s2 . But any idea how much will the s advance cost? If its somewhere close to she s2 itself then there's no use of waiting for it.
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There are a lot more ROMs out there for the SGS compared to the SGS+, although some/most (not sure about this...) will work on both phones..
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Bcoz of such lack of education many people hard bricked their S+ , no roms from s work on s+ , it's a totally different hardware, bootloader partitions etc..
As for those who commented the gpu, according to all benchmarks there is no big difference between adreno 205 (with updated drivers) and sgx.
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I had heard that Nvidia hasn't released some drivers/source code for ICS and hence ICS is not possible on tegra devices !!
If that is so, then how some ICS roms like owains and hei's have came up - ?
Also i read a post nearly 4 weeks ago in dev section that Nvidia has released the source code...!!
Will someone help to clear my confusion whether all drivers have been released or not
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Because we have good devs doing good work here in xda and among the cyanogen team.
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I had heard that Nvidia hasn't released some drivers/source code for ICS and hence ICS is not possible on tegra devices !!
If that is so, then how some ICS roms like owains and hei's have came up - ?
Also i read a post nearly 4 weeks ago in dev section that Nvidia has released the source code...!!
Will someone help to clear my confusion whether all drivers have been released or not
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they are not released otherwise we did have full hardware accelaration now
but hey we got arcee the cyanogenmod maintainer of the p990 and he is really awesome!!
I don't 100% understand the matter, but does this mean something good for us?
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Nvid...-is-there-hope-for-driver-development_id27845
Would be very much appreciated if a developer close to the matter say something about this
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I don't 100% understand the matter, but does this mean something good for us?
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Nvid...-is-there-hope-for-driver-development_id27845
Would be very much appreciated if a developer close to the matter say something about this
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well they said they will be givin us ics blobs
sources will ofc be much better but we are also happy with blobs
Hmm...Thank god we have such great hard working Devz
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Also i wanted to know one more thing -
What is NEON ??
i wanyed to use screencapture software which said that NEON is not supported by processor
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nexus2515 said:
Also i wanted to know one more thing -
What is NEON ??
i wanyed to use screencapture software which said that NEON is not supported by processor
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NEON is hardware base floating point emulation which is released in cortex-a8 and in some cortex-a9. for example processor used in Samsung Galaxy S. We have software based vfpv3 vectorization in o2x. HW accelated NEON could work much better in many aspects like video decoding etc.
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NEON is hardware base floating point emulation which is released in cortex-a8 and in some cortex-a9. for example processor used in Samsung Galaxy S. We have software based vfpv3 vectorization in o2x. HW accelated NEON could work much better in many aspects like video decoding etc.
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It is a shame that neon isn't supported by the Tegra 2
Tegra 2 series
The second generation Tegra SoC has a dual-core ARM Cortex-A9 CPU (lacking ARMs advanced SIMD extension, marketed as NEON), an ultra low power (ULP) GeForce GPU with 4 pixel shaders + 4 vertex shaders,[14] a single-channel memory controller with either LPDDR2 at 600 MHz or DDR2 at 667 MHz, a 32KB/32KB L1 cache per core and a shared 1MB L2 cache.[15] There is also a version of the SoC supporting 3D displays; this SoC uses a higher clocked CPU and GPU.
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ICS related discussions here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1347118
Please don't consider it as a "another ICS blah blah... thread"
Just check this product from HTC:
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_desire_c-4759.php
Processor: 600
Resolution: 320 x 480 pixels
So Our SGA is way better than this phone by HTC. The most interesting feature for this phone is "OS Android OS, v4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich)"
On Xda, some days before I read a thread where expert developer confidently said that "Ice Cream Sandwich requires more processing frequency than that of SGA which is 800 and even it can not run on overclocking. So guys just forget about ICS on SGA."
So now what you guys wanna say?? If this HTC handset can RUN official ICS on 600 then why not our SGA??
Your clarification will help all of us!!
Regards,
Adwait
This has been said and discussed a lot of times here TBH.
regardless of whatever someone says our ACE is capable of running ICS but samsung SIMPLY REFUSE to support their older devices and so the fact of the matter is we will NOT GET OFFICIAL ICS. CM9 and AOKP is our best bet.
but can't we use the ICS of this HTC handset to port for our SGA?? CM9 is really a good option but it's modification! I mean to say stock 4.0 for SGA
That device uses cortex A8(armv7) processor,+512 mb ram.And ace has 278 user available ram+armv6 processor.Stock ICS needs 384 mb user available ram to correctly use/render API level 14 of 4.0.CM9 by galaxyics uses binary patches and kernel hacks if you see their sources.Therefore the performance boost ICS gives,is not visible because API level 14 neccessities are not met.Moreover i consider CM9 for ace just eyecandy(thats personal opinion).And I am pretty satisfied by gingerbread.Android 4 for ace would have made sense if it had 500+mb ram and 1ghz+ armv7 processor.What use is an OS if it reduces performance of your device
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That device uses cortex A8(armv7) processor,+512 mb ram.And ace has 278 user available ram+armv6 processor.Stock ICS needs 384 mb user available ram to correctly use/render API level 14 of 4.0.CM9 by galaxyics uses binary patches and kernel hacks if you see their sources.Therefore the performance boost ICS gives,is not visible because API level 14 neccessities are not met.Moreover i consider CM9 for ace just eyecandy(thats personal opinion).And I am pretty satisfied by gingerbread.Android 4 for ace would have made sense if it had 500+mb ram and 1ghz+ armv7 processor.What use is an OS if it reduces performance of your device
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oh gr8!! Now this reply satisfied my question!! Thanks a ton!!
side_effect said:
That device uses cortex A8(armv7) processor,+512 mb ram.And ace has 278 user available ram+armv6 processor.Stock ICS needs 384 mb user available ram to correctly use/render API level 14 of 4.0.CM9 by galaxyics uses binary patches and kernel hacks if you see their sources.Therefore the performance boost ICS gives,is not visible because API level 14 neccessities are not met.Moreover i consider CM9 for ace just eyecandy(thats personal opinion).And I am pretty satisfied by gingerbread.Android 4 for ace would have made sense if it had 500+mb ram and 1ghz+ armv7 processor.What use is an OS if it reduces performance of your device
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This....Its not just the processing power that decides the performances.armv6 is pretty extinct now,no more support.
Sent from my fingers to your face,take it or leave it.
according to samsung even galaxy s is not capable so
dont buy samsung mid range from next time thats only solution
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This....Its not just the processing power that decides the performances.armv6 is pretty extinct now,no more support.
Sent from my fingers to your face,take it or leave it.
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Samsung devs and others are forget the armv6 devices they carrier into armv7. for me armv6 are same good as armv7 you right they not support the armv6 now its like a garbage.. zzz
+1 Never buy a mid and low range Samsung device. Go for Sony.
This was sent from my Galaxy Ace, but who cares?
nims11 said:
according to samsung even galaxy s is not capable so
dont buy samsung mid range from next time thats only solution
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yeah..they stated Device dont have enough ram to support tw4
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yeah..they stated Device dont have enough ram to support tw4
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but galaxy s already have port of s2 tw4 ics rom
Well its ol bull**** coz i have SGfit and running cm9 successfully its really smooth i use it fr daily use.....
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Thnkz to mclaw
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maxcool12345 said:
Well its ol bull**** coz i have SGfit and running cm9 successfully its really smooth i use it fr daily use.....
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camera works?
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Thnkz to mclaw
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nims11 said:
but galaxy s already have port of s2 tw4 ics rom
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XDA rulez..!!BTW you did paranoid android?
side_effect said:
XDA rulez..!!BTW you did paranoid android?
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yep but its not good for our small screen
Aww sad..
side_effect said:
Aww sad..
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not sad if you have not problem with small layout then no problem as due to small screen in tablet mode stuff looks small so if you have problem you can choose phone ui then all stuff will be same as cm9
nims11 said:
not sad if you have not problem with small layout then no problem as due to small screen in tablet mode stuff looks small so if you have problem you can choose phone ui then all stuff will be same as cm9
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any plans to release it?may with a suitable dpi we can adjust it little bit
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any plans to release it?may with a suitable dpi we can adjust it little bit
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if all want then will realese after beta9