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[Q] Have I bought the wrong one?

Hello all, just purchased a kindle fire hd 7 as I am after a cheap android (running)tablet mainly for work, so emails, web, diary etc. I was reading though the kindle fire section of xda and saw all the rom options as I want to run one of the jelly bean roms on a kindle. Then when I searched for kindle fire hd I realised that the two different kindles are very different! Can I run any jelly bean rom on my fire hd? I have been in the rom development section and there seems to only be one rom (CM10) and that is still in development but when I go to 'show us your home screen' thread there are loads of android 4.xxxx looking screens.
Can I put a JB rom on my fire HD? I'm not new to roms/rooting etc but am confused at the moment.

SensationAlex said:
Hello all, just purchased a kindle fire hd 7 as I am after a cheap android (running)tablet mainly for work, so emails, web, diary etc. I was reading though the kindle fire section of xda and saw all the rom options as I want to run one of the jelly bean roms on a kindle. Then when I searched for kindle fire hd I realised that the two different kindles are very different! Can I run any jelly bean rom on my fire hd? I have been in the rom development section and there seems to only be one rom (CM10) and that is still in development but when I go to 'show us your home screen' thread there are loads of android 4.xxxx looking screens.
Can I put a JB rom on my fire HD? I'm not new to roms/rooting etc but am confused at the moment.
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what you see are different launchers^^

Jelly Bean on the Kindle
SensationAlex said:
Hello all, just purchased a kindle fire hd 7 as I am after a cheap android (running)tablet mainly for work, so emails, web, diary etc. I was reading though the kindle fire section of xda and saw all the rom options as I want to run one of the jelly bean roms on a kindle. Then when I searched for kindle fire hd I realised that the two different kindles are very different! Can I run any jelly bean rom on my fire hd? I have been in the rom development section and there seems to only be one rom (CM10) and that is still in development but when I go to 'show us your home screen' thread there are loads of android 4.xxxx looking screens.
Can I put a JB rom on my fire HD? I'm not new to roms/rooting etc but am confused at the moment.
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SensationAlex,
No, you can not install Jelly Bean on the Kindle HD yet. We are working on a custom ROM
for the Kindle and may release it in about 6 months - so far we are finding the Kindle to
be a real challenge. You bought the best one in the Kindle lineup. The Kindle Fire HD surpasses
most of the 7" tablets in quality and sound. Our company just bought a Nexus 10 and we
really enjoy the speed and the quality of the screen but the Kindle 7" is by far a better
sounding tablet. The Kindle HD Fire is the best sounding tablet, period. So if you love
to watch Movies, you bought the perfect tablet, if you want to do development, you
should get a Nexus 7. You will not like the sound on the Nexus 7", especially when
you have already been spoiled by the Kindle. If you like a challenge and have patience
keep the Kindle, it is top of the class 7". You can Root it, install a custom GUI, Install
Google Play, everything except a custom ROM.

Just been reading the kindle section of xda and have seen what people are doing, I have been using nova launcher for ages on my phone so will put that on my kindle and then with emails, browser and a few other apps I'll be happy. Can I use the stock email app with nova launcher? Or is there a different one?
I'm kind of glad there are no roms for it, will stop me messing about with roms each week!

Nova Launcher on Kindle Fire - Stock email app does work
SensationAlex said:
Just been reading the kindle section of xda and have seen what people are doing, I have been using nova launcher for ages on my phone so will put that on my kindle and then with emails, browser and a few other apps I'll be happy. Can I use the stock email app with nova launcher? Or is there a different one?
I'm kind of glad there are no roms for it, will stop me messing about with roms each week!
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SensationAlex,
Yes, I can relate, you and I are similar in that manor. I find the Kindle is the most stable tablet in the
office due to that fact. You can use the stock email app with Nova Launcher. As a matter of fact,
you loose nothing when installing Nova Launcher and gain a beautiful interface.

custom rom for the old KF not the kfhd Hashcode is working on custom recovery for the kfhd
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Kindle Fire HD Custom ROM
Ne0hacK said:
custom rom for the old KF not the kfhd Hashcode is working on custom recovery for the kfhd
Sent from my KFHD using xda premium
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Ne0hacK,
We actually successfully loaded Jelly Bean on the Kindle Fire HD, it was very buggy and is not ready
for production use. We are about 6 months away from releasing the custom ROM for the Kindle
Fire HD 7" current rev 7.2.3. Hashcode released a custom recovery on 11/14/2012 named
Safestrap v3.05 Beta unfortunately this project is "On Hold". We are hoping Hashcode is
able to release a production version of Safestrap prior to our custom ROM. Only time
will tell.........

[Q] How do I know which things are for old vs new FIRE HD?

Hi Everyone,
Is there a simple way to determine which methods to do which things are for which device?
It seems (unless I am missing something-- it wouldn't be the first time) that this forum mixes the 2012 and the new version of the Fire HD and apparently they are so NOT the same device that it could be disastrous to try some of the things listed here.
I bought a Fire HD this Christmas for my daughter and simply want to root it and hopefully install TWRP and a ROM to make it more generically Android. If nothing else, at least get GAPPS, so she won't have to pay for apps she already has on her phone.
I see threads here that imply that it is possible (second bootloader, etc), but there is no mention anywhere if these methods are for the older or newer version (again, unless I have missed it).
I was hoping that at least in this top level forum for all of the Fire HD devices, that in the FAQ it would help spell out what can and can't be done and how to determine the differences by tread title.
If I'm missing something (and again, my ADD makes that a definite possibility :silly, please let me know, but other XDA forums (my Galaxy S4 for example) has rules for how things get posted to help differentiate between hardware differences that could cause a brick to happen.
I understand that there are many more older Fire HD devices out there, but Amazon sold tonnage this past Christmas of the new ones so hopefully good things are in store, but that makes differentiation even more important, no?
Thanks in advance,
Dan

Dan Miller said:
Hi Everyone,
Is there a simple way to determine which methods to do which things are for which device?
It seems (unless I am missing something-- it wouldn't be the first time) that this forum mixes the 2012 and the new version of the Fire HD and apparently they are so NOT the same device that it could be disastrous to try some of the things listed here.
I bought a Fire HD this Christmas for my daughter and simply want to root it and hopefully install TWRP and a ROM to make it more generically Android. If nothing else, at least get GAPPS, so she won't have to pay for apps she already has on her phone.
I see threads here that imply that it is possible (second bootloader, etc), but there is no mention anywhere if these methods are for the older or newer version (again, unless I have missed it).
I was hoping that at least in this top level forum for all of the Fire HD devices, that in the FAQ it would help spell out what can and can't be done and how to determine the differences by tread title.
If I'm missing something (and again, my ADD makes that a definite possibility :silly, please let me know, but other XDA forums (my Galaxy S4 for example) has rules for how things get posted to help differentiate between hardware differences that could cause a brick to happen.
I understand that there are many more older Fire HD devices out there, but Amazon sold tonnage this past Christmas of the new ones so hopefully good things are in store, but that makes differentiation even more important, no?
Thanks in advance,
Dan
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Short answer: no.
You're not missing anything. Many (if not MOST) posts are extremely ambiguous about which hardware is being reference (Kindle, Kindle 2, HD, HD 2, HDX) then there's the size variations. Just the other day I asked a very similar question.
What I can tell you to look for is the firmware version number referenced because that is a great indicator of what's intended. Combine that with other hints and you can usually tell pretty well. For example, Kinde Fire HD could mean the 2012[ish] model that will be running 7.x firmware. The 2013 Kindle Fire HDs will be running 11.x now (if they're updated and as of when I'm posting this). That's the next major clue, look at when the post was made because that likely refers to the generation of device if it's a ROM/HACK (as opposed to inquiry). Firmware names tend to have the hardware nick-name in them too which can help also.
Personally, if I posted something hardware dependent I would provide my model #, year/month purchased, firmware version, model name (HD, HDX) and size.
Blame Amazon for being ridiculous with their product names.

Same boat
I too wish the Kindle names were less ambiguous. Moving forward, i would like to see new threads specify 2012 or 2013 models. I keep clicking on thread after thread hoping that somewhere a Cyanogenmod or other ROM has been found to work on the 2013/SOHO KFHD, but keep going in circles.

There are not many threads about the 2013 Kindle Fire HD 7 because there are not many exploits. There is root, remove lock screen ads and the ability to install Google Play although Google Play at this point is for window shopping only. Attempts to download from the play store, at this point, will freeze the tablet and you will need to reboot it. I added the links in my signature to help people find the few topics available.
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thank you
LinearEquation said:
There are not many threads about the 2013 Kindle Fire HD 7 because there are not many exploits. There is root, remove lock screen ads and the ability to install Google Play although Google Play at this point is for window shopping only. Attempts to download from the play store, at this point, will freeze the tablet and you will need to reboot it. I added the links in my signature to help people find the few topics available.
Sent from my Nexus 7 Flo running Odex SinLess ROM 4.4.2 with ElementalX kernel using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
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I appreciate the quick reply. Now i can rest finally knowing there is nothing more i can do with it for now. Wait...nevermind..now i have to start trying to hack my OUYA lol

Lmfao. stuck developers

[Q] A Couple Kindle Fire HD 7" 3rd Gen. Questions

I'm new to this device, and therefore new to researching about it, so if this question is redundant, I apologise. But even if it is, I hope someone will take a moment to help out.
Just got a Kindle Fire HD 7" 3rd gen for Christmas. The serial number starts with 00D2, and after it went through a couple updates, it's now running Fire OS 4.52 (build 11.4.5.2). I have a factory cord on the way, but I'm looking to be prepared for when it arrives. Is there a way to root this, yet? Can this device be rooted with Firerooter?
Also, if it is possible, I'm possibly looking to install a different ROM as well, and I'm hoping for some recommendations. I want something that offers more customization ability, and a wider set of options, but I don't need something as extravagant as CM 11, for example. I also don't want one that will lag on this device (I hate waiting), or consume the battery much faster than Fire OS 4 does. I'd prefer if it consumed less battery power honestly, but I figure that's asking for too much. Any help is appreciated.

Firerooter. Yes. KFSOWI modding community on Google+

Marshmallow For Kindle fire hd 7in 2015

Do you guys think this device would update to marshmallow or marshmallow based roms?

no
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midnight102 said:
Do you guys think this device would update to marshmallow or marshmallow based roms?
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Nope.

You can get some of the look of Marshmallow by loading the Nova launcher onto the Fire 7.
Root the Fire 7 with RootJunky's SuperTool and install the Nova launcher with one of the SuperTool options. One of the feature options of the Nova launcher is Marshmallow style icons. In Nova launcher go to Nova Settings, Look & feel, Icon theme, Marshmallow Android 6.0.

Don't fix what isn't broken. If you look through the latest history of custom v6 roms, they're rife with installation bugs and google apps barely works. Just stick with the latest CM 5, it works great with not much room for improvement for a casual user like me.

Maybe not Roms but FireOS 6 might be available to fire 7
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Brsuperboy9 said:
Maybe not Roms but FireOS 6 might be available to fire 7
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Might - but probably not. If/when Amazon updates FireOS to an Android 6/7 base there would be no business case to push out a major update to a huge number of older budget devices. Some of those upgrades are going to fail driving up support costs. To what end? Are Fire 7 owners suddenly going to start buying more stuff from Amazon because they got a shiny new version of FireOS?

Davey126 said:
Might - but probably not. If/when Amazon updates FireOS to an Android 6/7 base there would be no business case to push out a major update to a huge number of older budget devices. Some of those upgrades are going to fail driving up support costs. To what end? Are Fire 7 owners suddenly going to start buying more stuff from Amazon because they got a shiny new version of FireOS?
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Yeah but Amazon has done an update to the next major FireOS on a few tablets. An example are the fire HD 6\7 and Fire HDX 2014 updated to FireOS 5 so why not the Fire 7, Fire HDX 8\10 getting FireOS 6
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Brsuperboy9 said:
Yeah but Amazon has done an update to the next major FireOS on a few tablets. An example are the fire HD 6\7 and Fire HDX 2014 updated to FireOS 5 so why not the Fire 7, Fire HDX 8\10 getting FireOS 6
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Price points (margins) were higher on those examples, especially the 4th gen HDX. My sense is Amazon got burned updating those devices and won't make the same mistake. Again, what's to be gained from Amazon's perspective?

Davey126 said:
Price points (margins) were higher on those examples, especially the 4th gen HDX. My sense is Amazon got burned updating those devices and won't make the same mistake. Again, what's to be gained from Amazon's perspective?
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Is there a problem? It's just an update. And you're also assuming Amazon got burned. There are a lot of people wanting Marshmallow so why do you have to try to shut a lot of people down? Like I said its just an update, not supposed to raise sales on the 5th gens.
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Brsuperboy9 said:
Is there a problem? It's just an update. And you're also assuming Amazon got burned. There are a lot of people wanting Marshmallow so why do you have to try to shut a lot of people down? Like I said its just an update, not supposed to raise sales on the 5th gens.
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Offering a different perspective. Lots of problems updating HDX models from JB->KK->LP having worked with that community for quite awhile. That said, 5th gen Fire's have more robust recovery capabilities (can reload stock if an update goes bad; could not do that on HDX; effectively bricked) so perhaps the risk is lower.
Any successful company operates against a business plan of which customer 'wants' play into that equation with varying weights. In this case device sales are arguably loss leaders; what people do with the their Amazon appliances (buy stuff from Amazon!) is where the moneys at. Lollipop -> Marshmallow is not "just an update" when deployed across a large user base with varying configs. A non-functioning or misbehaving device doesn't generate clicks and sales.
If a Marshmallow based version of FireOS does come out I suspect Amazon will heavily modify some of the most desirable features to satisfy their business interests. Doze immediately comes to mind as Amazon apps tend to aggressively run in the background monitoring everything. Now-on-Tap, granular permissions, system tuner ... I don't think so. Adopted storage would be nice.

Davey126 said:
Offering a different perspective. Lots of problems updating HDX models from JB->KK->LP having worked with that community for quite awhile. That said, 5th gen Fire's have more robust recovery capabilities (can reload stock if an update goes bad; could not do that on HDX; effectively bricked) so perhaps the risk is lower.
Any successful company operates against a business plan of which customer 'wants' play into that equation with varying weights. In this case device sales are arguably loss leaders; what people do with the their Amazon appliances (buy stuff from Amazon!) is where the moneys at. Lollipop -> Marshmallow is not "just an update" when deployed across a large user base with varying configs. A non-functioning or misbehaving device doesn't generate clicks and sales.
If a Marshmallow based version of FireOS does come out I suspect Amazon will heavily modify some of the most desirable features to satisfy their business interests. Doze immediately comes to mind as Amazon apps tend to aggressively run in the background monitoring everything. Now-on-Tap, granular permissions, system tuner ... I don't think so. Adopted storage would be nice.
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Yay, but then the bootloder would admit marshmallow/nougat so cm13/14 would be possible if it could be rooted.
FireOS is **** in every version, but if it updates, it opens the door fot new custom roms.

tonibm19 said:
Yay, but then the bootloder would admit marshmallow/nougat so cm13/14 would be possible if it could be rooted.
FireOS is **** in every version, but if it updates, it opens the door fot new custom roms.
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Yep - with you there on custom ROMs. Nothing wrong with FireOS for the target audience and desired consumer behavior. Easy to use and presents Amazon's various stores front and center. No one would be complaining there was a different core OS under the covers.

Kindle Fire 7 Android

I was wondering if it was possible to install android on my Kindle Fire 7. I bought it on prime day because of the huge discount off the already cheap price.

mc_gamer_16 said:
I was wondering if it was possible to install android on my Kindle Fire 7. I bought it on prime day because of the huge discount off the already cheap price.
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This is the wrong Forum Section for this. You should look here https://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire
BE VERY CAREFUL!!! New bootloaders on the "Amazon Fire 7" have caused people to end up bricking their device when trying to put the custom ROM on it. Read all the guides in the Q&A section and do not do anything until you are well informed. I think you may end up having to use something called FlashFire if your device has a rootable version of Android on it.