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Dear Community,
I know from your guidelines that starting threads or requesting updates on certain subjects is strictly prohibited but still I feel it necessary to ask
you that exact question (even if there's a ban only moment away..) because I don't like to be kept out in the dark and would like
someone from the development team to update their daily updates and how their work is progressing so that we who are
eager enough to get started may rest in piece instead of staying awake all night long looking for updates.
Remove thread, warn or ban.. I just need an answer to all this!
/a fellow pirate
Jelly bean in my eyes is just the same thing as ICS except the title has changed it's moved up 0.1 decimal and a lot of fixes. The UI should be the same as well. I also don't see anyone going to port it anytime soon because first of all we don't have full working ICS.
Second a lot of the roms we are using today and the kernels still have them bugs. And i'm pretty sure no one will bother porting it to x8 since it's 2 years old it's dieing out and there are new phones just a tiny bit more expensive then x8 that are 10x stronger e.g.nexus s. I love sony and all but they are a company whom which likes to start new projects and never work and update their old ones. Updating your phones you manufacture makes a good company oh and good customer service which sony already has
I think you have to wait for that one, or start making it yourself, but if you dont want to, just wait... meanwhile use another rom, there are great ones at the moment, and they are a vast improvement of what eclair was in the first place...
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Jelly bean in my eyes is just the same thing as ICS except the title has changed it's moved up 0.1 decimal and a lot of fixes. The UI should be the same as well. I also don't see anyone going to port it anytime soon because first of all we don't have full working ICS.
Second a lot of the roms we are using today and the kernels still have them bugs. And i'm pretty sure no one will bother porting it to x8 since it's 2 years old it's dieing out and there are new phones just a tiny bit more expensive then x8 that are 10x stronger e.g.nexus s. I love sony and all but they are a company whom which likes to start new projects and never work and update their old ones. Updating your phones you manufacture makes a good company oh and good customer service which sony already has
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It may be an older phone but still it does all what is required from an smartphone and moar..:good:
Steven87 said:
I think you have to wait for that one, or start making it yourself, but if you dont want to, just wait... meanwhile use another rom, there are great ones at the moment, and they are a vast improvement of what eclair was in the first place...
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I have run several ROMs such as GingerXperia (V14 - V23 - rV3) including 4.0.4 ICS which will do for now..:silly:
I haven't updated and have no plans to do judging by the sheer amount of complaints on here about 4.2, i don't recall ever reading so many people complaining about an update as bad as this before and it begs the question, what were Google thinking releasing an update that was so bad with so many bugs,etc and mores to the point can anything be done to fix it?
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I haven't updated and have no plans to do judging by the sheer amount of complaints on here about 4.2, i don't recall ever reading so many people complaining about an update as bad as this before and it begs the question, what were Google thinking releasing an update that was so bad with so many bugs,etc and mores to the point can anything be done to fix it?
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So... you made another thread to question the usability of an update you haven't even used?
Nice.
(fyi, I'm quite partial to 4.2)
jonny68 said:
I haven't updated and have no plans to do judging by the sheer amount of complaints on here about 4.2, i don't recall ever reading so many people complaining about an update as bad as this before and it begs the question, what were Google thinking releasing an update that was so bad with so many bugs,etc and mores to the point can anything be done to fix it?
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Why do we need so many threads complaining about the update? Why can't you post in the same thread??
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As another quite satisfied 4.2 user, I don't really appreciate your characterizing the update as awful.
Seems like a fine update to me - but I don't feel the need to open another thread to say that.
rmm200 said:
As another quite satisfied 4.2 user, I don't really appreciate your characterizing the update as awful.
Seems like a fine update to me - but I don't feel the need to open another thread to say that.
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A couple of niggles that will be ironed out when app devs catch up with the new multi user setup but some good features already working.
I agree with the others here though, I hope your posting history isn't full of pointless moaning about things you haven't even tried.
rmm200 said:
As another quite satisfied 4.2 user, I don't really appreciate your characterizing the update as awful.
Seems like a fine update to me - but I don't feel the need to open another thread to say that.
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+ 2,:good:
Hummm Yet again.. I think 4.2 does have some bugs.. I also think its thrown the developers into a Nightmare because of the multi user configuration. Same with apps now having to make storage location choices.. With that said its NOT Terrible.
Obviously you never used the first Version of Honeycomb.. Then the Update Update update .. that still ended you with a slow sluggish interface that Well i Will not go on . Other then to say Google was to embarrassed about it they would NOT RELEASE THE SOURCE . That was bad..
Be thankful Google always pushes the Bleeding edge of there designs.. It brings us new features and keeps our Devices fresh. The update bugs is the price for this . Thank Google.. While Telling them they have Trouble. NO reason to tell us WE Already know...
Not sure what these threads are bringing to any forum. Off TOPIC IS THE Best place for such post.. YES MY Reply here to is Uncalled for.....
Erica Renee the geeky chic
Crap thread.
And there's another one, two word response and a fourteen line sig.
Only real issue I've noticed is lag when using multiple users. New keyboard is great, everything else seems fine to me. Happy user here after deleting the extra user account I tested.
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I haven't bothered with the multi user aspect and it has been fine here. I think its a given that it ain't quite ready considering it was not implemented in the review units.
One thing I noticed is that you can now say "flu shot Monday at noon" and it will finally create a calendar event. I wonder how many more commands have been added.
omg was that monday as in tomorrow or last monday.. I Can not believe i missed the flu shots again.. grrrrrrrrr .. now im doomed
4.2 seems to be working fine on my nexus 7 so far. Even ice cream sandwich had a whole bunch of more serious issues on a number of devices yet overall most people think it was a great update.
I wouldn't say 4.2 is an awesome update as I've only found a couple of changes useful to me. But I just haven't experienced anything majorly wrong with it either. Give it a month or two and I'm sure the niggles will have been fixed as I have a suspicion they could be mostly ap related.
no its a good update, jeez everyone should quit complaining about now.
Worst update ever was the one my flyer got from Gingerbread 2.3.4 to Honeycomb 3.2....
I like it and am happy Google is stepping up. PA is a fantastic ROM and they did some amazing mods. Unfortunately I have a touch of the OCD and would spend hours trying to set it up just right. I was satisfied from the get go after 4.2 was installed and didn't feel the need to adjust any tablet or phablet settings. With the exception of the usual mods CM or AOKP style. Can't wait to see what's in store for this update Dev style!
I too am happy with 4.2- can't compare it to much but it's clearly no disaster.
I myself have not had any issues with 4.2, thus I'm rather pleased
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4.2 update
I am new to the nexus family. I got the nexus 7 16gb yesterday and updated it to 4.2 as soon as possible. So far so good.
I've noticed some lag but overall I like the update, astro sees duplicate storage locations but I'm sure they'll fix that. I don't have multi user enabled and am stock, not rooted.
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I got my xperia z for 1 week now. Unlocked the bootloader, rooted the device and uninstalled almost all default apps, so far so good. The phone is fast, i like the screen, i read all kind of bad things about the viewing angles but in real life it really isn't an issue and the detail and colours are just awesome. Battery life after removing all stock crap is about 2 days with medium to high usage which is fine. So far i don't have anything to complain about.
But what now, i don't see much development going on, the xperia z development thread stays frighteningly empty. Will there be any developer support, will we get an official CM build, i really hope it will, the device has much potential!
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I got my xperia z for 1 week now. Unlocked the bootloader, rooted the device and uninstalled almost all default apps, so far so good. The phone is fast, i like the screen, i read all kind of bad things about the viewing angles but in real life it really isn't an issue and the detail and colours are just awesome. Battery life after removing all stock crap is about 2 days with medium to high usage which is fine. So far i don't have anything to complain about.
But what now, i don't see much development going on, the xperia z development thread stays frighteningly empty. Will there be any developer support, will we get an official CM build, i really hope it will, the device has much potential!
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FreeXperia already have a CM 10.1 build for the XZ. Most people don't even have there pre order received so I think you have to wait a bit before custom ROMs are available
Give it time. lol
The phone just got released and most countries don't even have it yet.
There will be development. Its just not widely available to everyone yet.
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Most pre-order sites that I've been browsing (my order included) get their stock on Feb 28, so you'll have to wait until at least then before devs start to pour in.
Many will release custom roms as the recovery is up.
I'll make a stock one soon after I get the phone. (4th of March)
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What springs to mind when reading the op.
http://youtu.be/TRTkCHE1sS4
Thanks for reactions, i really like this phone so wanted to know for sure there are others with me ^^
I'll have mine in 2 days
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AW: I got my Z, what now...
When it hits the americas, it will get another boost. Massively enlarged userbase when that happens.
You just gotta have some patience, a couple weeks.
Hello there XDA!
I have just bought this phone after realising that I just can't stand the terrible piece of thing, HTC Desire Z anymore. Saw the unveiling of the S4 and wasn't too impressed and decided to just get the S3.
I haven't got the S3 yet though, will receive it sometime in the next 2-3 days.
Anyway, got a two questions here..
1) Why are there very little support for the I9305 version of the S3 on XDA compared to the I9300? (Android Development sub-forum, by the way) I was going to get the I9300 because of this but the store I went to didn't have them anymore. I really am planning to have this phone for a long time but the lack of support here worries me.
2) What is the best mod and ROM to use on the device? I will be rooting this. I'm looking for a smooth experience using the device as well as a quite decent battery life. I want to know the general opinions on here on which is the best rom.
That's all folks! Thanks in advance for answering my questions.
wafiyphd said:
Hello there XDA!
I have just bought this phone after realising that I just can't stand the terrible piece of thing, HTC Desire Z anymore. Saw the unveiling of the S4 and wasn't too impressed and decided to just get the S3.
I haven't got the S3 yet though, will receive it sometime in the next 2-3 days.
Anyway, got a two questions here..
1) Why are there very little support for the I9305 version of the S3 on XDA compared to the I9300? (Android Development sub-forum, by the way) I was going to get the I9300 because of this but the store I went to didn't have them anymore. I really am planning to have this phone for a long time but the lack of support here worries me.
2) What is the best mod and ROM to use on the device? I will be rooting this. I'm looking for a smooth experience using the device as well as a quite decent battery life. I want to know the general opinions on here on which is the best rom.
That's all folks! Thanks in advance for answering my questions.
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CyanogenMod, but really I would have gone with a Nexus 4 or Xperia Z at this time.
Rekoil said:
CyanogenMod, but really I would have gone with a Nexus 4 or Xperia Z at this time.
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Nexus 4 had no removable storage and the Xperia Z is a tad bit overpriced here so, S3 was the way to go. Plus the specifications on the S3 is good enough for me especially the screen size, I don't really need a 1080p screen.
Thanks anyway!
If you want a Stock ROM but optimised, go for Wanamlite.
CyanogenMOD is AOSP so you'd lose some Samsung features and the camera isn't as great.
BTW, great to see more Bruneians here on XDA!
I'm on ripper rom themed with domination. OC'ed to 1.5 with yank kernel.
Getting 5.30h on screen time heavy use.
I tried cyanogen on my normal 9300 but battery time : waaaay too weak. +lots of lag.
So don't really like it.
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I'm on ripper rom themed with domination. OC'ed to 1.5 with yank kernel.
Getting 5.30h on screen time heavy use.
I tried cyanogen on my normal 9300 but battery time : waaaay too weak. +lots of lag.
So don't really like it.
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auralzx said:
If you want a Stock ROM but optimised, go for Wanamlite.
CyanogenMOD is AOSP so you'd lose some Samsung features and the camera isn't as great.
BTW, great to see more Bruneians here on XDA!
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Hello fellow countryman!
Well, seems like I've got two roms to try out. I want to experience Touchwiz for a little bit because I've used CM roms on my previous phone for the whole time. Thanks guys!
there are many roms in xda，have a try.
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libo39 said:
there are many roms in xda,have a try.
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I would actually try most, if not all, if I could but unfortunately, internet speed is pretty terrible at times..
the second question is against the rules.
You will love the s3 lte and from my experience the best ROM for overall is pandoriam which has a lot to offer in terms of performance and customization with all the goodies from stock.
Anyways enjoy one of the best phones on the market if not the best!
Sent from a Galaxy far away!!
again, DON'T discuss which ROM is best
I'm sorry. I've only read that a few days after I made this thread.
Anyways, currently enjoying the smooth and fluid experience with RipperROM as well as the CrossBreeder mod. I am really loving this phone so far. Huge step up from my previous phone, Desire Z.
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wafiyphd said:
Nexus 4 had no removable storage and the Xperia Z is a tad bit overpriced here so, S3 was the way to go. Plus the specifications on the S3 is good enough for me especially the screen size, I don't really need a 1080p screen.
Thanks anyway!
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It's not a matter of specifications, the specs are good enough. The problem is that Samsung don't support the developers by releasing the source code they need in order to properly port CyanogenMod and AOSP-based ROMs to their devices. What this means is that devices with an Exynos4 processor, such as our lovely I9305s, will never get officially stable CyanogenMod or any other AOSP-based ROMs like ParanoidAndroid or AOKP, there are just too many blanks to fill. With an Exynos4-based device you can expect to live with graphics glitches, higher than normal battery drain from modem, and no project butter support. Presuming Samsung doesn't eventually release the source (seeming more and more unlikely now that the Exynos4 isn't even their top-of-the-line processor).
Yeah, I can see how that's a problem. I think the same thing happened with Desire Z where HTC did not give out the source code for the camera or something..
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Glebun said:
again, DON'T discuss which ROM is best
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Ok, so his question was against the rules, but the responses weren't necessarily. The second one didn't say what was the best, it said what the poster was using.
Factual information about a ROM is very different than pure speculation about what's the best.
Did it really make your life worse having those two helpful posts on this thread for the guy?
Would such a thread be allowed here? Most other device forums have such a thread and it serves as a general OT thread to cut away the number of created threads. I searched briefly before starting this and did not come across anything similar.
So, let me start off. I am an S5 G900F user since a few weeks back and I'm still running it stock without root. Yes, all the bloat and stuff that comes with but in my defense I'm running Nova Launcher Prime on top.
@iamnotkurtcobain @gee2012 @f0xy We'll continue discussing here gentlemen.
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I've had it since June rocking stock
Don't know what I'm holding out for
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gee2012 said:
You may try XtreStoLite 1.3.8 if you like TW and good camera software, i`am running it atm and its bleeding fast and has many good features and the rom is only 650 MB for me.
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Xtresrolite or cm11.
Those two are the BEST roms for the S5 in my opinion. Fast and slim.
But I'll wait for cm12 now. I'm on cm11 nightly 8.11. and next flash will be cm12.
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I've been thinking about flashing either XtreStoLite or CM myself but I need to give it some more thought.
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Would such a thread be allowed here? Most other device forums have such a thread and it serves as a general OT thread to cut away the number of created threads. I searched briefly before starting this and did not come across anything similar.
So, let me start off. I am an S5 G900F user since a few weeks back and I'm still running it stock without root. Yes, all the bloat and stuff that comes with but in my defense I'm running Nova Launcher Prime on top.
@iamnotkurtcobain @gee2012 @f0xy We'll continue discussing here gentlemen.
I've been thinking about flashing either XtreStoLite or CM myself but I need to give it some more thought.
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They both have their pro`s and cons. CM is not pure AOSP either as isn`t TW as they are both heavily modified. I love the Samsung camera software which makes great pics. The CM ones are ok but in quality their less than sammy`s. The XtreStolite as i have it is 650MB as i have some TW modules flashed that i wanted. Performance is great and batterylife is very good, its about on par for performance but less batterylife on CM. Its all about preference off course but in usability/compatability TW is the winner imo.
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They both have their pro`s and cons. CM is not pure AOSP either as isn`t TW as they are both heavily modified. I love the Samsung camera software which makes great pics. The CM ones are ok but in quality their less than sammy`s. The XtreStolite as i have it is 650MB as i have some TW modules flashed that i wanted. Performance is great and batterylife is very good, its about on par for performance but less batterylife on CM. Its all about preference off course but in usability/compatability TW is the winner imo.
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The Samsung Camera takes greats photos, yes, but the interface seems a little cluttered. It feels as if they wanted to make something good but ended up just packing every possible setting into it with no real logics applied.
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The Samsung Camera takes greats photos, yes, but the interface seems a little cluttered. It feels as if they wanted to make something good but ended up just packing every possible setting into it with no real logics applied.
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True, its a bit chaotic because of the many features they put into it, but Lollipop will bring many changes to TW and its apps/widgets i believe.
Had a quick change of heart. I'm now rooted with TWRP installed.
@@non4 Surprise mate, I'm rooted now
Theshawty said:
Would such a thread be allowed here? Most other device forums have such a thread and it serves as a general OT thread to cut away the number of created threads. I searched briefly before starting this and did not come across anything similar.
So, let me start off. I am an S5 G900F user since a few weeks back and I'm still running it stock without root. Yes, all the bloat and stuff that comes with but in my defense I'm running Nova Launcher Prime on top.
@iamnotkurtcobain @gee2012 @f0xy We'll continue discussing here gentlemen.
I've been thinking about flashing either XtreStoLite or CM myself but I need to give it some more thought.
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I still use my s3 too much lol
Will root soon though
Flashed the latest CM nightly and the official GApps package. All I have to say is: Wow. I love CM.
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@@non4 Surprise mate, I'm rooted now
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Congratulations! Soon you will be seeing "kernel is not seandroid enforcing! Set warranty bit: kernel" at every boot . I tried to start a thread like this with the name "General Thread" but it got lost. Glad this one got some attention had some good chats at our s3 thread haha. I hate having a new phone, I reboot and flash so many times then flash again bc I didnt like it or found something else. Mostly kernels, I'm on hacker kernel currently, seems we don't have many kernels. I think Ktweaker is overrated, it has a lot of features but feels a bit bloated and sluggish at times
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Congratulations! Soon you will be seeing "kernel is not seandroid enforcing! Set warranty bit: kernel" at every boot . I tried to start a thread like this with the name "General Thread" but it got lost. Glad this one got some attention had some good chats at our s3 thread haha. I hate having a new phone, I reboot and flash so many times then flash again bc I didnt like it or found something else. Mostly kernels, I'm on hacker kernel currently, seems we don't have many kernels. I think Ktweaker is overrated, it has a lot of features but feels a bit bloated and sluggish at times
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I know, and I'm proud of it. Shows I've tampered with my phone and not staying stock. I should almost frame it and put it on my wall: "The day I finally tampered with my S5". Hahaha.
Not running XtreStoLite, though. I'm full blown CM 11 nightlies. I LOVE vanilla and I can't stress that enough.
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I know, and I'm proud of it. Shows I've tampered with my phone and not staying stock. I should almost frame it and put it on my wall: "The day I finally tampered with my S5". Hahaha.
Not running XtreStoLite, though. I'm full blown CM 11 nightlies. I LOVE vanilla and I can't stress that enough.
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I like the fingerprint too much. I have a need for security and like it to be quick. Its more reliable than face unlock. Plus its one of the unique features that won me over from the z2 which I very nearly got, I wish they would've used open sources. I feel like I'm having a break from CM after using it for so long, touchwiz is forgiving enough to use this time around, and I still get a taste of aosp when I use my nexus 7. Now do I flash L or not? I have a deb and L has no working data. I don't actually use a sim in it hardly it just happens to be the device I could get credit on. My problem is I have OCD and if I know something is not working it will bug the hell out of me even if I don't use it. But im dying to taste lollipop!
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I like the fingerprint too much. I have a need for security and like it to be quick. Its more reliable than face unlock. Plus its one of the unique features that won me over from the z2 which I very nearly got, I wish they would've used open sources. I feel like I'm having a break from CM after using it for so long, touchwiz is forgiving enough to use this time around, and I still get a taste of aosp when I use my nexus 7. Now do I flash L or not? I have a deb and L has no working data. I don't actually use a sim in it hardly it just happens to be the device I could get credit on. My problem is I have OCD and if I know something is not working it will bug the hell out of me even if I don't use it. But im dying to taste lollipop!
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I like the fingerprint thingy too but it's too unreliable for me. I wish it was like TouchID.
I'm like that too, if something doesn't work I'm bothered immensely by it, even if I don't specifically use that feature. Luckily, everything seems to work on CM. Maybe not as well as on TW, but they still work.
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I like the fingerprint thingy too but it's too unreliable for me. I wish it was like TouchID.
I'm like that too, if something doesn't work I'm bothered immensely by it, even if I don't specifically use that feature. Luckily, everything seems to work on CM. Maybe not as well as on TW, but they still work.
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It works well for me after training it a few times. I notice cases with a lip require special technique to get a full swipe. A touch sensor would work better but they avoided getting sued yet again by the control freak idea stealing/patenting that is apple, so they used swipe like the atrix. I would have used that as a court weapon to exploit apples "originality". Get that finger scanner working and I will happily ditch TW
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It works well for me after training it a few times. I notice cases with a lip require special technique to get a full swipe. A touch sensor would work better but they avoided getting sued yet again by the control freak idea stealing/patenting that is apple, so they used swipe like the atrix. I would have used that as a court weapon to exploit apples "originality". Get that finger scanner working and I will happily ditch TW
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Ah, yes. The envious suing child that is Apple. They're not innovators, they block innovation from happening.
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Ah, yes. The envious suing child that is Apple. They're not innovators, they block innovation from happening.
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Couldn't have said it better myself. A work mate I got into our current employer from our previous unreliable job switched from samsung s2 to Iphone 5s and now loves it. He laughs at the size of my s5. Whats most annoying is that he bases his preference on how the phone feels. Put a one m8 or galaxy alpha in his hands please
The only thing that's getting to me is the Knox flag, I know it doesn't hinder warranty in e.u etc etc, but not being able to put the phone fully back to stock is getting to me
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f0xy said:
The only thing that's getting to me is the Knox flag, I know it doesn't hinder warranty in e.u etc etc, but not being able to put the phone fully back to stock is getting to me
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F*** knox
/ proud Knox 0x1 user
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F*** knox
/ proud Knox 0x1 user
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Haha I can see myself being a proud 0x1 user soon when I root
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Screw knox. I'm experiencing some reboots and even happened once before rooting. I have every intention of sending it back with a detailed letter of my usage, mods and findings to prove that my meddling is not to blame. I noticed that undervolting made it 10 times worse, perhaps my device needs higher than stock voltage?? At any rate I love this thing so much I've managed to keep in looking like new in a case. I hate cases, the only blemishes are on the battery door from fiddling with the charging cover. Expecting a slim armor tomorrow because the neo hybrids edges are too "square" making it difficult to hold, hope this case is easier to hold
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Screw knox. I'm experiencing some reboots and even happened once before rooting. I have every intention of sending it back with a detailed letter of my usage, mods and findings to prove that my meddling is not to blame. I noticed that undervolting made it 10 times worse, perhaps my device needs higher than stock voltage?? At any rate I love this thing so much I've managed to keep in looking like new in a case. I hate cases, the only blemishes are on the battery door from fiddling with the charging cover. Expecting a slim armor tomorrow because the neo hybrids edges are too "square" making it difficult to hold, hope this case is easier to hold
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I just have a standard hard rubber case, but I have an excellent scratch resistant screen protector which has so far stood the test of time and stress.
I have a some indents from the time before case but I'd say it was in new shape.
Knox will be 0x1 soon lol
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