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Bionic is great! But Droid Razr better?

I got the Bionic a couple weeks ago and it's been pretty awesome so far. But I saw the Razr pop up (http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19736_...l-core-processor-lte-support/?tag=epicStories) and kind of got bad a feeling that I shouldn't have been so hasty getting the Bionic.

I lost sleep over this too. Ultimately I resolved that I'd keep my Bionic. I can only imagine what the phones on the horizon with a 720p res display are going to do to the battery. Also, until we see more phones with the Ice Cream Sandwich O/S, I'm staying put.

Yeah, that RAZR is straight doinggggggggggggg

art0605 said:
I got the Bionic a couple weeks ago and it's been pretty awesome so far. But I saw the Razr pop up (http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19736_...l-core-processor-lte-support/?tag=epicStories) and kind of got bad a feeling that I shouldn't have been so hasty getting the Bionic.
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Honestly, this is how it's going to be for any piece of electronics you buy. "This is good but the next thing is better." If you keep waiting for the best thing ever you probably will never get anything. I say stick it out w the Bionic and when your upgrade comes up I'm sure the RAZR will look like Zach Morris' phone from Saved by the Bell (OK maybe not that bad).

I hear you
I get it no one wants to get a phone a 2 months later its replaced by a better one.however I love the bionic I have had one or two glitches unlike others I just got lucky. Its super fast I think the screen looks great and I watch Netflix. The pentile screen also uses a small amount o of battery compared to the other screens

id return my bionic if you guys updated from the charge or thunderbolt and wait for this droid razr, its going to be sick
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They won't post a release date until last minute. I think the Bionic was a placeholder at this point, they just wanted the name to make them money. This device will probably be leaps(maybe not bounds) better.

I don't think it will be a huge improvement.. Honestly as of right now I see no need to upgrade my phone I have yet to find anything that would slow down my phone. Never really experienced lag and flash runs smooth... After I installed DroidTh3ory's ROM my phone has had 100x better battery life as well...

It's announced today - coming early Nov to VZW
From PC World's review
There's a 1.2 GHz dual-core processor, a 4.3-inch Super AMOLED qHD display (that's 960-pixel by 540-pixel resolution), an 8-megapixel rear-facing camera with 1080p video capture, an HD front-facing camera, and 32 GB of memory, split between internal storage and a microSD card. It's also a 4G LTE phone.
On the outside, the Droid Razr sports laser-cut woven Kevlar fiber and a Gorilla Glass display, highlighted by aluminum accents and wrapped around a stainless steel core. A splash guard is designed to protect the phone from flying liquids.
Motorola's stuffed a 1,780 mAh battery into the Droid Razr, and claims that will give a user 12.5 hours of 3G talk time or 8.9 hours of video playback
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It's announced today - coming early Nov to VZW
From PC World's review
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Yup, I've been tracking it all morning. So as of now, I'm on the fence about selling my Bionic for that bad boy. What to do, what to do?

Sure the material looks better in theory, same RAM 200 mhz more? Wonder how much extra performance you will see. Super Amoled with pentile subpixel display right? Not sure about this one team, I also feel kinda torn.

I currently have a partially working Thunderbolt and was going to switch out for a Bionic on Friday, until I saw the RAZR announcement this morning. I went over the specs and hardware/software wise there are no major differences whatsoever... The appeal of the RAZR seems to be it's design. It's "pretty" and built to take a beating. Looks like you could beat someone to death with it and it will still function 100%.
I am now debating if I should still get the Bionic or hold on to this Thunderbolt a bit longer and get the RAZR. What bothers me is they say they are taking pre-orders on the 27th but no one(not even Verizon) will say when the phone will actually be released.

In b4 we see an article "Nerd beat to death by RAZR smartphone... PZNERD"

2-3 months after the RAZR comes out, HTC or Samsung will release something you wish you would have waited for. I waited 10 months for the BIONIC, I'm going to enjoy this badboy for as long as I can. I've learned not to look forward to any more phones in the future. Unless you are willing to buy a new phone every 2-3 months, you will never have the best for long.
Maybe Verizon should consider leasing these phones as the technology is growing faster than most people's wallets can afford.
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How much you all want to bet the GSIII will be out by February? That'll be the phone of all phones.

While the Razr does look good it doesn't look like it will be leaps and abounds above the bionic, plus it has a locked bootloader also, so you would be in the same no custom kernal boat. With DroidTh3ory's Blurr3d and D3Blurr3ed ROMs i don't see the need to jump ship yet. Now maybe when the Nexus or another powerful phone with an unlocked bootloader comes out then i would consider it, but after investing the money in the Bionic i couldn't imagine paying full retail price, probably between $500-$600, for another phone so quickly.

There will ALWAYS be something better in the future! Get what you want and enjoy it. Don't beat yourself up for buying what you have because a new one is coming out soon. And those of you without a bionic, don't b*tch at people who have it by saying they should have waited.
The Bionic is a great piece of work.
Of course there will be better phones soon, but Android can always put out an update that makes the current devices even better.
~INB4 i smack somebody~

I think the Bionic will be a better phone because they will probably try and make the razor too sleek and have to sacrifice things such as battery life and hardware just my 2 cents

Non-removable battery yuck. Wonder if the prime will be the same?

zetsumeikuro said:
Non-removable battery yuck. Wonder if the prime will be the same?
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I like having an external battery so I can pop it out when needed...
And...internal battery means no Extended Battery...you're stuck with what ya got.

[Q] Dilemma now. SGS2 or Vivid?

I've been on Samsung for the last couple years and just picked up the SGS2 a couple weeks ago mainly because it already had root. Now that the Vivid has an unlocked bootloader, just trying to decide if I should jump to it before the 30 days is up?
Anybody here had the SGS2 and gone to the Vivid or vice versa that can assist?
I'm so torn!!

Jirv311 said:
I've been on Samsung for the last couple years and just picked up the SGS2 a couple weeks ago mainly because it already had root. Now that the Vivid has an unlocked bootloader, just trying to decide if I should jump to it before the 30 days is up?
Anybody here had the SGS2 and gone to the Vivid or vice versa that can assist?
I'm so torn!!
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My opinion: Jump. While I've not tried the GS2, I had a GS1. Other than Voodoo sound, it was pretty rubbish, and I definitely don't trust Samsung to make a smartphone anymore.
Also, Touchwiz looks like poo and runs like it too. Sense is a bit fat, but you get a fully functioning and fully integrated experience.

That all depends....
Do you want an over-saturated, painful to look at, cartoonish display with a bad UI?
Or a higher res, vivid, true color display, decent UI.... and LTE?
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ClippinWings said:
That all depends....
Do you want an over-saturated, painful to look at, cartoonish display with a bad UI?
Or a higher res, vivid, true color display, decent UI.... and LTE?
See my sig.
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Only advantage the vivid has is LTE, but you can get the skyrocket.
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Longcat14 said:
Only advantage the vivid has is LTE, but you can get the skyrocket.
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I'd consider the display a HUGE advantage.... bigger than LTE even.
the SGSII display is so bad I would have returned mine whether the Vivid was released or not. And that's saying something considering i was using a Dell Streak with a shattered screen previous to my SGSII.
And the Skyrocket is a joke...
It takes the already bad screen in the SGSII, and destroys the pixel density by supersizing it without bumping the resolution.

ClippinWings said:
And the Skyrocket is a joke...
It takes the already bad screen in the SGSII, and destroys the pixel density by supersizing it without bumping the resolution.
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I agree. I didn't care much for the Skyrocket.
So, is it safe to say now that the Vivid will probably end up with MIUI and/or ICS eventually?

Absolutely. It's on HTC's official "Will get ICS" list, which makes AOSP/custom ICS even easier.

How's the quality of the phone itself? As in, how does it feel in hand? My local AT&T store didn't have it and the Best Buy near me that does would not open a box for me to look at so I haven't even held it yet.

Jirv311 said:
I agree. I didn't care much for the Skyrocket.
So, is it safe to say now that the Vivid will probably end up with MIUI and/or ICS eventually?
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Good chance.
Jirv311 said:
How's the quality of the phone itself? As in, how does it feel in hand? My local AT&T store didn't have it and the Best Buy near me that does would not open a box for me to look at so I haven't even held it yet.
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Well, have a free "thanks", I missed the quote button.
It feels pretty solid. It's definitely on the heavier side as compared with Samsung phones, but I honestly don't really notice. Far more durable than my Galaxy S Captivate, and less finicky than the Desire HD line.

Jirv311 said:
How's the quality of the phone itself? As in, how does it feel in hand? My local AT&T store didn't have it and the Best Buy near me that does would not open a box for me to look at so I haven't even held it yet.
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I went from sgsII to Vivid and at first I was very worried I would hate the weight....
BUT after a week or so, at most, I didn't even notice and now, lighter phones like the sgsII and skyrocket feel extremely cheap.
Honestly the build quality of this phone is 2nd to only the iPhone 4 for quality feeling to me... Certainly a huge step above the flimsy plastic Samsung uses.
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I had the GSII and the Skyrocket before my vivid. I have to say the dealbreaker for me with the Sammy's was Touchwiz. I hate it. I mean I hate it with a passion. All round the Vivid is more solid. It feels like it will last 2 years if need be.

You should ask this question in the SGS II section, you would get the opposite answers.
You could ask in almost any forum, and always get a response of the forum you are in is better. I would bet even people in the Atrix 2 forum would say that mid range phone is better than both these high end phones.
You can cancel your upgrade, then you have 30 days to decide again. If you just swap phones, the clock doesn't start over, and you only get a few days to decide how you want to spend the next 18 months.
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quarlow said:
You should ask this question in the SGS II section, you would get the opposite answers.
You could ask in almost any forum, and always get a response of the forum you are in is better. I would bet even people in the Atrix 2 forum would say that mid range phone is better than both these high end phones.
You can cancel your upgrade, then you have 30 days to decide again. If you just swap phones, the clock doesn't start over, and you only get a few days to decide how you want to spend the next 18 months.
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I may end up trying the Vivid for a couple days to see how I like it. Otherwise, I'll wait on the upgrade.
And I agree, I'm probably asking for some biased responses here but thought I might find somebody who has had both phones that could help.

ClippinWings said:
I went from sgsII to Vivid and at first I was very worried I would hate the weight....
BUT after a week or so, at most, I didn't even notice and now, lighter phones like the sgsII and skyrocket feel extremely cheap.
Honestly the build quality of this phone is 2nd to only the iPhone 4 for quality feeling to me... Certainly a huge step above the flimsy plastic Samsung uses.
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backtothemac said:
I had the GSII and the Skyrocket before my vivid. I have to say the dealbreaker for me with the Sammy's was Touchwiz. I hate it. I mean I hate it with a passion. All round the Vivid is more solid. It feels like it will last 2 years if need be.
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So since you both had both phones, can you shed any light on differences in speed and battery life between the 2 or is it really even noticeable?

ClippinWings said:
I went from sgsII to Vivid and at first I was very worried I would hate the weight....
BUT after a week or so, at most, I didn't even notice and now, lighter phones like the sgsII and skyrocket feel extremely cheap.
Honestly the build quality of this phone is 2nd to only the iPhone 4 for quality feeling to me... Certainly a huge step above the flimsy plastic Samsung uses.
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Jesus, it's hilarious when people pull the "LOL, all phones have better build quality then Samsung phones." No, they all have worse, what you have is better build feel.
Drop your vivid from a 4 foot drop, I dare you, and watch it shatter into a million pieces and dent the **** out of your phone.
Me, I've dropped my skyrocket on concrete countless times, no shattered screen (gorilla glass) and the "flimsy" plastic your talking about, I have one minor scratch.
But, at least it's not as bad as the iOS fanboys and their all glass phone, can't drop that from a 6 inch drop without shattering the back.
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Jirv311 said:
So since you both had both phones, can you shed any light on differences in speed and battery life between the 2 or is it really even noticeable?
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I'm going to assume you mean Skyrocket and SGS II.
The SGS II has the powerful Exynos, so obviously in terms of raw horsepower, it obliterates ALL phones.
The skyrocket has an LTE radio, but honestly, the battery drain is no different then my Infuse, which had AMAZING battery life.
Now that the LTE radio and HSPA+ radio are the same radio (not 2 seperate radios like on VZW's LTE phones and the Vivid), it saves power as it can actually turn off the data when not needed.

It comes down to personal preference. Trying them out is key. Ever tried Samsung touchwiz? Compare it to HTC Sense and there is a huge difference. I'm not alone when I say Sense is the most polished and seamless UI on the market. It integrates many things that other UIs do not. The sheer amount of widgets sense has is pretty amazing too. All of which have a 3d effect when scrolling between screens.
If you will be heavily modding, I say go HTC. Otherwise you will get bored with touchwiz and aosp ROMs, there's hardly even a difference between the two. With HTC you will have a wide variety of sense and aosp roms.
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I've used both- personally owning a vivid, and helping my friend with his gs2, rooting and romming it with cm7 for him.
The GS2 is extremely light, too light for me but I don't think it's truly a negative. His battery lasts longer than mine, however mine is faster. The camera boots faster and overall using the software feels solid. That is with the vivid locked and slowed down by sense to some extent.
One thing of note that no one states about the galaxy s 2. If you want to shoot 1080p video, it forces the sensor to zoom in almost all the way. If you don't believe me- http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-1085142.html
The vivid does not zoom in at all, making for full sized 1080p footage. I prefer the screen IMMENSELY on the vivid, however I think the gorilla glass is a huge plus on the s2.
Really you need to weigh out what's important to you as both have positives and negatives. After using his galaxy s2 I was extremely happy that I decided to upgrade to the vivid.

Jirv311 said:
So since you both had both phones, can you shed any light on differences in speed and battery life between the 2 or is it really even noticeable?
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Battery-wise the Samsung wins, hands down... That's the vivds only weak spot.
Speed, in benchmarks the vjvid gets slaughtered... BUT in reality, its the smoothest phone I've ever used.... So if there is a speed difference it may exist with some graphics intensive games, but is irrelevant in my normal use.
And to answer the question of dropping the vivid... That's what a case is for.... The difference is by the time you put a case on the super thin super dainty sgsII, you loose any advantage of its thin profile.... While the vivid still feels like it was built to handle the zombie apocalypse.
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Well, I bit the bullet today and picked up the Vivid. I have a week left of my 30 days and so far I like it. The UI does seem a bit more finished. Definitely a little bit of lag in it but I'm sure a kernel can fix that.
I do like the extra thickness of it. I feel more comfortable holding it. Much less like I'm going to drop it.
Now I have some things to learn. Can somebody point to me some good reading on how flashing, S-Off, etc all work on the HTCs? The Samsung scene is a bit different.

Jirv311 said:
Well, I bit the bullet today and picked up the Vivid. I have a week left of my 30 days and so far I like it. The UI does seem a bit more finished. Definitely a little bit of lag in it but I'm sure a kernel can fix that.
I do like the extra thickness of it. I feel more comfortable holding it. Much less like I'm going to drop it.
Now I have some things to learn. Can somebody point to me some good reading on how flashing, S-Off, etc all work on the HTCs? The Samsung scene is a bit different.
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No S-Off yet, but we still have perm root and can flash ROMs. All in one package right here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1416836

Atrix HD OBTAINED!

What's up fellow Atrix HD owners! I just picked up the AHD today and am absolutely loving the phone!
I switched over from the GS3 so I am getting a little used to the forum section we have here..Lol but hey I've been following the threads since this section was created! I can't wait for the Developing to begin! The phone is still new so I understand for very slow development at the moment but for now I am enjoying the phone regardless of root or any ROMs!
This community we got so far seems great and I hope to get this phone's full potential out with you guys! :fingers-crossed:
First thing I noticed was the Notification LED!! So happy this phone had it! Made the switch slightly easier haha, also glad to say it is MULT-COLORED!! So we are able to change the color! (Light Flow Lite is the app I used its Free)
How are you guys holding up with the phone thus far?? Especially those whom had the GS3?? You guys enjoying this phone as much as I am?!

Can I ask what made you swap phones?

I love the phone i had the s3 for a day and couldn't stand the feel of the phone or touchwiz. I had the one x which i loved and sold for this and i haven't missed it yet. The one thing i gave up is the battery life but i have an anker battery pack to charge it so it doesn't bother me that much. I think the detail in the screen is amazing coming from my eyes.
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I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one that loves this phone! It why the hox dropped on price. The phone its really smooth and so close to ics you have too love it. I also heard that a juice pack case us coming out next month for this bad boy so everyone better be ready.. Yea working at an Att store i get to play with all the phones, the gs3 is a bit better do to the 2gb ram but that's really it. I hate the blue tint you can see on the gs3, after using this phone. Also if you have used the native email on thus phone you're missing out its way better than gmail.... I just hope the new update will fix the camera thing
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Wow.. pretty interesting.. you swapped the GS3 for the AHD? Am curious what caused you to make the switch other than the blue tint on the screen. Most people rave about the GS3! And now that the dust has settled from the fiasco with Amazon when I ordered my AHD, I am back to square one trying to decide which phone is best. ATT has bent over backwards for me and is matching any deal I can get from Amazon on the GS3, HOX or AHD so needless to say I'm going to order from ATT directly.
And now that the HOX is the same price as the AHD, it makes the choice a bit more difficult. From what I understand the HOX battery lasts longer and the camera is superior, but the lack of multi-tasking and the hardware/software issues with the phone don't make it that appealing. So the choice now is really between the GS3 and the AHD. With Sammy selling over 10 million GS3's there's obviously tons of people that love the phone, while Moto is far behind in all ways. And it also appears its not likely this phone will get a JB update either.. Any advice you folks can lend? Thanks.

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Yeah mainly I swapped because i really love the feel of the AHD. It feels very firm and well built in hand compared to the GS3. Surprisingly IMO it feels a tad bit lighter as well so I liked that as well. Don't get me wrong though not only build quality but touch wiz was also another reason. It wasn't cutting it for me, the fact the AHD was very ICS and lightly skinned by Moto was a big win! Also spec wise both are very similar! Only setting them apart is the battery and ram but i haven't noticed any problems within those area thus far. Using juice defender and the provided Smart Battery Extender really helped out alot!
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I totally understand how you feel! After having the GS3 for close to a month I was able to really get accustomed to touch wiz and it want quite what i was looking for..it did have ICS embedded but idk there was just something missing. Something theAHD has makes me not miss the GS3 at all haha.
Oh and the display...man just amazing so much clearer and crisp IMO smaller screen but not by much this is just right for me! Loving that color boost!
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tacotino said:
I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one that loves this phone! It why the hox dropped on price. The phone its really smooth and so close to ics you have too love it. I also heard that a juice pack case us coming out next month for this bad boy so everyone better be ready.. Yea working at an Att store i get to play with all the phones, the gs3 is a bit better do to the 2gb ram but that's really it. I hate the blue tint you can see on the gs3, after using this phone. Also if you have used the native email on thus phone you're missing out its way better than gmail.... I just hope the new update will fix the camera thing
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Haha yeah this phone is just amazing! About the blue tint is very true! Coming from the GS3 I've noticed whites on this phone are very true! Colors just seem more natural as opposed to being very saturated on the GS3 !
I was thinking about getting the HOX but despite having no external micro sd slot that was a deal beaker for me. Also I'm very exited to hear our phones are capable of using a 64gb micro sd as opposed to the advertised 32gb!
And yes only downsides to me are the battery and ram but with juice defender and batt ext. I've noticed nothing less on usage time I was experiencing with the GS3!
Using the gmail app atm since my google account was synced but i have to check that out!
The camera could use a good update actually. Another possible win for the GS3 and HOX is the camera but honestly I've been able to take decent pictures nonetheless!
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nuance4u said:
Wow.. pretty interesting.. you swapped the GS3 for the AHD? Am curious what caused you to make the switch other than the blue tint on the screen. Most people rave about the GS3! And now that the dust has settled from the fiasco with Amazon when I ordered my AHD, I am back to square one trying to decide which phone is best. ATT has bent over backwards for me and is matching any deal I can get from Amazon on the GS3, HOX or AHD so needless to say I'm going to order from ATT directly.
And now that the HOX is the same price as the AHD, it makes the choice a bit more difficult. From what I understand the HOX battery lasts longer and the camera is superior, but the lack of multi-tasking and the hardware/software issues with the phone don't make it that appealing. So the choice now is really between the GS3 and the AHD. With Sammy selling over 10 million GS3's there's obviously tons of people that love the phone, while Moto is far behind in all ways. And it also appears its not likely this phone will get a JB update either.. Any advice you folks can lend? Thanks.
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Getting a price match at ATT is unheard of for me so your actually in a very good position haha. Since your choice had dwindled down to just the AHD and the GS3 it'll be a little tough and I'd say at this point it would be total preference.
Coming from the GS3 the only feature i am current missing is the camera. Yes it did have 2gb ram and bigger screen etc. but the screen is incomparable to the AHD IMHO side by side its noticeable in color hues, quality, clarity. Both are HD i believe the GS3 is using the pentile display still so i was noticing that a lot. With the AHD it was more of a natural look to me which i really love!
As far as battery i did mention that with the use of juice defender and the Smart Actions Battery Extender I'm Sweeting the same amount of usage i had on the GS3! So I'm really only missing out on the camera and ram at this point.
If you really are in a bind though..what i can suggest is you do a trial of both phones, i believe ATT offers a 30 day exchange period, so you can test each phone for 2 weeks to get a good feel Of both phones before actually making a final decision! That is exactly what i did and i couldn't be more happier with my choice haha.
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Well I went to the ATT store and chatted for a while with a rep that's a big Atrix fan.. he has an Atrix 2 that he's rooted etc.. Another very important point to me is when/if the device gets the JB update since Google Now is amazing. My concern about the AHD is that Moto may never unlock the boot loader and may take ages if ever to update to JB. We already know Sammy may send out the update as early as next month or at least before the holidays if not sooner. And the GS3 in garnet red is a very sexy looking device, though it's not as sturdy as the AHD. Since Sammy has sold over 10 million it has quite a following. The only question is am I going to be one of them. At $100 its a lot of phone but I do have concerns about how long the physical home button will last and if it will last. I actually was going to get a GS3 until the AHD came out but now.. I just don't know.

nuance4u said:
Well I went to the ATT store and chatted for a while with a rep that's a big Atrix fan.. he has an Atrix 2 that he's rooted etc.. Another very important point to me is when/if the device gets the JB update since Google Now is amazing. My concern about the AHD is that Moto may never unlock the boot loader and may take ages if ever to update to JB. We already know Sammy may send out the update as early as next month or at least before the holidays if not sooner. And the GS3 in garnet red is a very sexy looking device, though it's not as sturdy as the AHD. Since Sammy has sold over 10 million it has quite a following. The only question is am I going to be one of them. At $100 its a lot of phone but I do have concerns about how long the physical home button will last and if it will last. I actually was going to get a GS3 until the AHD came out but now.. I just don't know.
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Thats a good point. We all know Moto has been very annoying with the BL being locked and taking forever with updates sometimes never, but both previous Atrix devices were capable of porting over ICS not officially though. So i believe that if we don't"officially" get JB down the line if we achieve root access and a possible BL unlock we will also get a port of some sort!
Though it is still too early to say at this time the AHD isn't a month old yet. but if your concern for choosing a device is mainly on official updates this being JB, then the GS3 is the way to go.
Also the color of choice as well. I did mention however in another thread that each color of the GS3 had defects with the back covers. I had the white one and even though i skin cased it from ghost armor from day 1 it still managed to have a horrible crack. The blue GS3 had paint smudges with the back cover, so as far as the red I'm not sure, but what i can say is for build quality i will vouch for the AHD. It feels premium in hand not to mention the kevlar just looks so good IMO very study phone. And to me personally the AHD felt lighter in hand.
I Hope that was of some help, but honestly whichever device you choose its a winner, both phones are in the top right now and you cant go wrong with either device! Good luck!
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Chcl8bananamagk said:
Thats a good point. We all know Moto has been very annoying with the BL being locked and taking forever with updates sometimes never, but both previous Atrix devices were capable of porting over ICS not officially though. So i believe that if we don't"officially" get JB down the line if we achieve root access and a possible BL unlock we will also get a port of some sort!
Though it is still too early to say at this time the AHD isn't a month old yet. but if your concern for choosing a device is mainly on official updates this being JB, then the GS3 is the way to go.
Also the color of choice as well. I did mention however in another thread that each color of the GS3 had defects with the back covers. I had the white one and even though i skin cased it from ghost armor from day 1 it still managed to have a horrible crack. The blue GS3 had paint smudges with the back cover, so as far as the red I'm not sure, but what i can say is for build quality i will vouch for the AHD. It feels premium in hand not to mention the kevlar just looks so good IMO very study phone. And to me personally the AHD felt lighter in hand.
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With the level of security Moto has used this time around, making even rooting the thing a royal pain in the ****, I certainly wouldn't hold my breath waiting on a bl unlock....The Atrix 2 wasn't even this secure and it's bl still remains locked to this day. I have heard of GS3's cracking, but that's not something inherent to the color of the phone. Until it becomes a widespread issue I have to believe it's simply due to user error....many of us for years have been simply ripping our battery covers off like we always do cause the materials we're used to could handle it and they were so thick it was a non-issue. The plastic used on the GS3 battery cover is very thin so it makes sense that during removal the cover can be bent a little too far causing the cracks to happen. The fact of the matter is we have no idea what the users did or didn't do to cause the physical damage. Just like the one guy who claimed his phone spontaneously combusted while charging it in his car....and the issues with the blue battery covers was for the international versions of the phone, I haven't heard of any finish issues with the blue covers on any domestic GS3's.

The bootloaders WILL be unlocked, expect the tool to land somewhere between October & December. I'm hoping to see root before the tool, as I've never been a big fan of voiding warranty officially VIA the manufacturer...
My tab's Flyer than yours (unless this is posted in a Flyer thread... Then it's just as Flyer...)
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IP IHI II IL said:
The bootloaders WILL be unlocked, expect the tool to land somewhere between October & December. I'm hoping to see root before the tool, as I've never been a big fan of voiding warranty officially VIA the manufacturer...
My tab's Flyer than yours (unless this is posted in a Flyer thread... Then it's just as Flyer...)
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Motorola has not said anything about the Atrix HD other than that it ships with a locked bootloader.

mattlgroff said:
Motorola has not said anything about the Atrix HD other than that it ships with a locked bootloader.
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Though Moto did say future devices will begin receiving Webkits for BL unlocks maybe they'll have a change of heart with our device considering its the first device released when moto and google got together possibly? Fingers crossed haha
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You have me swetting here deciding myself.. I purchased the HD then ended up taking it back...Comcerned it would never get root and battery life.. I ended up getting a Nitro than after having CWM foul, I bricked the phone (waiting on a refurb tomorrow). Good news is my nephew needs a phone I keep thinking I should give him the Nitro and order the HD in white. The black was very boring yet the white looks nice.
I also own a HOX and Nexus both are great phones all have their drawbacks.
Nexus: Amoled , mever really noticed till playing with a HOX for awhile also NO LTE other than that smooth phone.
HOX just not sure I really like it though it does seem large and has some other minor draws I just don't really like.
I know just friggin spoiled yet hey..LOL

lmarranzino said:
You have me swetting here deciding myself.. I purchased the HD then ended up taking it back...Comcerned it would never get root and battery life.. I ended up getting a Nitro than after having CWM foul, I bricked the phone (waiting on a refurb tomorrow). Good news is my nephew needs a phone I keep thinking I should give him the Nitro and order the HD in white. The black was very boring yet the white looks nice.
I also own a HOX and Nexus both are great phones all have their drawbacks.
Nexus: Amoled , mever really noticed till playing with a HOX for awhile also NO LTE other than that smooth phone.
HOX just not sure I really like it though it does seem large and has some other minor draws I just don't really like.
I know just friggin spoiled yet hey..LOL
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That's awesome man you got plenty of phones to choose from haha! Reminds me of myself though i airways switch between phones!
Personally while i did have the gs3 in white i also wanted the AHD in white although radio shack did not carry that color in store, but i would really love the white color, it would make me love the phone even way more!
Though how did you like the phone regardless of color while you owned it? If you do decide to go back and pick this bad boy up regardless of no root atm it's a solid device!
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I to switched from the gs3. I loved the phone, but just like my previous Samsung device i didn't get a signal in my living room. So far with the ahd i get 2-3 bars in my living room.
With that being said, i do feel like i downgraded. However the main reason to have a phone is to be able to use it as a phone, right? Lol
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I just got this phone yesterday and to be honest it's a big improvement over the galaxy nexus. Even without jelly bean this phone is smoother and faster.
I will post my battery life later today. I think my phone is going to last 4 days with normal usage. I do use it but not a 8 hour a day type usage..LOL
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Love this phone

This phone is a cracker!
The phones I have had before have come close to perfection. Last one being the s3 but never quite made the cut.
Everything just works perfect!
I've had the nexus 4 since Saturday and have yet to find a flaw.
User friendly is is an understatement.
Its like they have thought of everything.
All those folks over at the s3 forums laughing at us for selling up and getting the nexus will be swallowing their words after a few mins playing with this badboy.
Even the screen feels amazing. It just slides through your fingers.
Nicest phone I have ever felt and used.
So as you can tell, I am very happy
Peace
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shenery said:
This phone is a cracker!
The phones I have had before have come close to perfection. Last one being the s3 but never quite made the cut.
Everything just works perfect!
I've had the nexus 4 since Saturday and have yet to find a flaw.
User friendly is is an understatement.
Its like they have thought of everything.
All those folks over at the s3 forums laughing at us for selling up and getting the nexus will be swallowing their words after a few mins playing with this badboy.
Even the screen feels amazing. It just slides through your fingers.
Nicest phone I have ever felt and used.
So as you can tell, I am very happy
Peace
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Couldn't agree more.

This makes me want it even more, NAO! Hehe, mine is in transit with DHL, and I'm F5'ing the Tracking page all day long hopefully I'll receive it before the weekend!

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This makes me want it even more, NAO! Hehe, mine is in transit with DHL, and I'm F5'ing the Tracking page all day long hopefully I'll receive it before the weekend!
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I'm telling you man you'll love it
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thanks for this post. I feel the same way.
I'm coming from a situation where I'm with tmobile already, I have spotify and netflix and I don't need a removable battery I have chargers everywhere I go if needed (work, home, car), and I get about 20mbps down from HSPA+ which is on par with verizon's LTE when you're talking about real-world use. So for me the phone is perfect.
On top of that the phone is fast as hell, extremely responsive, the IPS panel is really good, I love the design on the back, its a lot classier then I though it was going to be. Holding the phone, the weight just feels right. Coming from an SGS 2 I love the notification light and the on-screen buttons really make it feel like an advanced phone.
Look I understand the phone is not for everybody and theres some compromises some people just arent willing to make. That being said, its a ****ing shame when tech hypochondriacs get a device then immediately hop on xda and make countless threads about how their phone sucks because there's a 1/4th of a mm gap between the micro sd card slot and the phone bezel.
I honestly couldn't be happier with the phone. Its just a beautiful device in all aspects, and coupled with a SANE price I don't think you can go wrong with it.

This is good to hear as mine's will be here this week.

I was one of the lucky first to get the 16GB Nexus 4. It's one of the best feeling Nexus. I think the Nexus one felt the best in hand, but it is too small now. I say now because at it's time, it was the perfect size.
I was never one to use the swipe keyboard for typing, but the Nexus 4 screen is so smooth that it makes gesture typing pleasurable. I now swipe all the time.
As for durability, I dropped my phone on a hard surface twice already because of how slippery the back is, but it held up just fine without any scratches. Multiple drops on carpet because my pillow is now a slippery surface.
As for software, I been using Android since the G1 launch, so since android 1.3. Back in the days when we had developers like Jesusfreak making rooted roms and custom recoveries for us. By far, the Nexus 4 makes android 4.2 the most liquid smooth version of android I have ever used, bar none! That 2GB of ram is just awesome. Apps stay in memory much longer. For my Galaxy Nexus, pages would have to reload when I switch back to Chrome browser, but not the Nexus 4. It's still there, ready and waiting for me.
I don't regret my purchase for this phone at all. Only nexus I had regretful feelings for was the Nexus S. Why? well that's another story.

The phone just does what it told! Doesny even argue wi ye!

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The phone just does what it told! Doesny even argue wi ye!
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Everything but autocorrect.

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Everything but autocorrect.
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Perfectly correct Scottish...
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Swype beta works amazingly well on this smooth screen
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Perfectly correct Scottish...
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I see it now.
I'm glad to see this thread. Just finally got an order in this afternoon. Now to wait...

Had mine since the Friday of the week it was released & I have to say I love the feel of the device, The notification light is a godsend coming from the S2. I'm now getting used to the sensitivity of the screen, My S2 you could just hover over the screen & it'd click things. This needs a bit of a harder tap but nothing major.
I thought I'd miss the screen of the S2, It still impressed me up till the point of getting rid of it. Those colours! Even if they are over saturated looked fantastic when watching videos & playing games. But the sharpness of the N4 screen makes it brilliant to be honest. The colours are fine too now i'm used to it.
I echo you're statements OP I love this device.

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I was one of the lucky first to get the 16GB Nexus 4. It's one of the best feeling Nexus. I think the Nexus one felt the best in hand, but it is too small now. I say now because at it's time, it was the perfect size.
I was never one to use the swipe keyboard for typing, but the Nexus 4 screen is so smooth that it makes gesture typing pleasurable. I now swipe all the time.
As for durability, I dropped my phone on a hard surface twice already because of how slippery the back is, but it held up just fine without any scratches. Multiple drops on carpet because my pillow is now a slippery surface.
As for software, I been using Android since the G1 launch, so since android 1.3. Back in the days when we had developers like Jesusfreak making rooted roms and custom recoveries for us. By far, the Nexus 4 makes android 4.2 the most liquid smooth version of android I have ever used, bar none! That 2GB of ram is just awesome. Apps stay in memory much longer. For my Galaxy Nexus, pages would have to reload when I switch back to Chrome browser, but not the Nexus 4. It's still there, ready and waiting for me.
I don't regret my purchase for this phone at all. Only nexus I had regretful feelings for was the Nexus S. Why? well that's another story.
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Everything but autocorrect.
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Wan eh the first hings ye huv tae dae when yur Scottish is take that basturt autocorrect aff

amazing phone!

wow this is a world phone and has a very responsive processor and nice camera! latest andriod 4.2.2 slim sleek body design nice auidble speakers clear display excellent battery life wow, anyone else loving this phone! my previous phone was the galaxy s2 and i loved it but this one is 100x better! anyone else amazed with this phone??

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wow this is a world phone and has a very responsive processor and nice camera! latest andriod 4.2.2 slim sleek body design nice auidble speakers clear display excellent battery life wow, anyone else loving this phone! my previous phone was the galaxy s2 and i loved it but this one is 100x better! anyone else amazed with this phone??
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Oh I love my SGS4 too! I've been more amazed at the fast development than the actual phone itself! I feel secure in knowing I made the right choice

Loving mine, too. I've had it for a bit over 2 weeks now and it was a bit of a learning curve coming off a long line of HTC phones (the S3 in my sig is my wife's), but I'm at home now. And it's so nice to have a phone that works so well compared to all the naggy little problems the HTC's always had.

Im coming from an S3 and really digging the new 1080p crisp screen. Out of the box the S4 feels a little sluggish compared to the S3 even with the latest OTA.

I want it! ;D

I'm very impressed. I actually ran mine stock for a week and out of the box it is impressive. The camera is as good if not better than my wife's Polaroid!

I've been running stock since I got it and not one complaint.
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I am stock for about 2 weeks now and no problems either at first had a little lag but over time and a factory reset its all good everything perfect
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Same here I don't think I need a rom on this phone like I needed on my galaxy nexus.
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Agree with u, But ****ing the plastic cover and so expensive price.

wait a little while it will go down in price, and for everyone else there is one rom that is stock but it doesnt have all the bloatware its called forcerom

Absolutely loving this phone. Still learning and getting the hang of all the little tricks it can do, but my jump from the S2 has been magnificent thus far. Smooth like butter, fast as lightning, battery life is outstanding, screen looks amazing. Now I'm just patiently waiting for Team Venum's ROMs to be released...then I'll be in S4 heaven.
EDIT: A final thing I'd like to add that I didn't anticipate when I purchased the phone. I was seriously thinking of switching from Sprint because I had MAJOR issues in terms of phone service and reception, not to mention I'd hardly ever see 4G. Because I live in Chicago and work(ed) for US Cellular, I was aware of the details involving their purchase of the Chicagoland area US Cellular customer base and data towers, so I decided to stick around in hopes that service would improve over time. But once I got this phone, the improvement in signal was astonishing. Have yet to find a spot without service and 4G all day.

yea the phone is perfect it simply is the best android phone out there period, but ya only issue with getting it when it comes out would be waiting for development to progress =) o well it will come ill be patient the phone is worth it <3 and i came from an s2 as well!

and actually its not a bad thing waiting for more development is a good thing so i can enjoy stock rom LOL instead of a custom rom of my choosing, anyway to anyone who may wonder, this is the best android phone period imo =)

This is a amazing device I cant set it down
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i want one but it costs too much.:crying:

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Agree with u, But ****ing the plastic cover and so expensive price.
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Well the plastic vs metal is completely a eye of the beholder type of deal, some people say it feels cheap and others like how it's light smooth and nice in the hand. Personally I like it.
Plastic cover allows for easy access to the battery and SD Card, and it scratches less than aluminum. And anyways you can grab a metal battery cover if you want they're pretty cheap.
But.... On the price.. I definitely agree completely lol. :banghead:
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budde2 said:
This is a amazing device I cant set it down
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ME TOO haha

I've had mine since the weekend they got released. Still really enjoying the switch over from my long history with HTC. Great phone that delivers on what it promises. I just didn't know what I was missing on the HTC phones I owned until the wife got her S3 last year.

I love it very much
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