Naturally, most of us are excited about the launch of WP8 and the new models and am sure many of us will rush out and get them.
But, will MS make this easier for us than at present.
The Zune backup is laughable, you only backup when you get a software upgrade and you can only restore to the original phone, not a replacement (if original was faulty say) or upgrade.
I know there are a few very useful workarounds at present, but none I believe allow you to restore a backup to another device. A backup being different of course to a sync to the cloud / Zune / PC.
I am running Win8 preview and expect to upgrade to the release version next week. I believe Zune is being replaced as well.
Question:- Is MS going to make this transition easy for us with WP8, Win8 & Zune replacement or will we lose lots of valuable data??? Damn hope so!
BEERSHARK said:
Naturally, most of us are excited about the launch of WP8 and the new models and am sure many of us will rush out and get them.
But, will MS make this easier for us than at present.
The Zune backup is laughable, you only backup when you get a software upgrade and you can only restore to the original phone, not a replacement (if original was faulty say) or upgrade.
I know there are a few very useful workarounds at present, but none I believe allow you to restore a backup to another device. A backup being different of course to a sync to the cloud / Zune / PC.
I am running Win8 preview and expect to upgrade to the release version next week. I believe Zune is being replaced as well.
Question:- Is MS going to make this transition easy for us with WP8, Win8 & Zune replacement or will we lose lots of valuable data??? Damn hope so!
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This is one of biggest arguments FOR root and real filesystem access, like android.
Maybe you can convince the folks at titanium backup to petition Microsoft to make their product usable on wp?
I really don't understand why ms didn't think this through for consumers, let alone corporate user bases.
Hi++
Hope to see this features !
because I've lost so many important info & media in this **** OS and I have a question : why ms wanna do this now !!!! why they don't respect to consumers???? WHY ??
LET'S see what they gonna show us in next version !
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I know this is a long shot, but the only thing I miss when I upgraded to GalaxyS from my TouchHD is that I am not able to sync with my MicrosoftMoney. I have tried many possibilities but there isnt anything that allows me to have a selected view of my desktop MicrosoftMoney application on my phone and edit it on the phone and sync once in a while with my desktop application back.
I know google will never release anything which makes talking easy for microsoft products - we know how outlook syncing is difficult. But anybody has any workarounds to this?
Please share if you have any ideas.
Thanks
There are a few apps that allow you to use your PC from the phone. Not sure how goof they are but it may be a workaround. (use MS Money on the PC direct from the phone).
Microsoft hasn't released versions of Money since 2007 0.o And honestly, you are the only person I have EVER heard of using it (maybe why they stopped)
Have you considered upgrading to an actively maintained product?
Hello,
I've got HTC HD7 with 02 branding and am running Win XP.
I am desperately trying to access phone's internal memory over USB with no success. I would like to shift data so like used to do it on my old HTC Diamond. And I dont want to use the Zune crap, cause it only allows shifting media files like music and videos...
I mean, WM6, 6.1 and 6.5 had a sperate option (ActiveSync, Memory Access or Internet Sharing) when plugging device to the computer.
Is there any similar app or built-in functionality to do so???
Thanks and regards,
schorschy
schorschy said:
Hello,
I've got HTC HD7 with 02 branding and am running Win XP.
I am desperately trying to access phone's internal memory over USB with no success. I would like to shift data so like used to do it on my old HTC Diamond. And I dont want to use the Zune crap, cause it only allows shifting media files like music and videos...
I mean, WM6, 6.1 and 6.5 had a sperate option (ActiveSync, Memory Access or Internet Sharing) when plugging device to the computer.
Is there any similar app or built-in functionality to do so???
Thanks and regards,
schorschy
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nope, zunes the only option right now.
i really do not understand microsoft... they announced wm7 as something absolutely groundbreaking and there are many functionalities i am missing even in comparison to wm6!!!
i mean, okay, i somehow can understand they removed activesync... but memory access via usb?! or wm6 to wm7 data migration?! i mean, these are basic functionalities every mobile device MUST have...
it really makes me think over about giving back my device...
schorschy said:
i mean, okay, i somehow can understand they removed activesync... but memory access via usb?! or wm6 to wm7 data migration?! i mean, these are basic functionalities every mobile device MUST have...
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I totally disagree, memory access by USB is not a must have function to sell a mobile phone by any means.
What data are you trying to put onto the device that won't be covered by Zune or a Windows Live/Google account etc?
i just think using pda as a memory stick is a very useful functionality... for example, shifting pdf's when being offline or similar...
Microsoft have taken the approach that in order to produce a stable platform, the file system needs to be locked down so that people cannot "tinker" with it. Its a sensible approach if you think about it from that perspective.
If this was such a big thing for you, why didn`t you check before purchasing?
schorschy said:
Hello,
I've got HTC HD7 with 02 branding and am running Win XP.
I am desperately trying to access phone's internal memory over USB with no success. I would like to shift data so like used to do it on my old HTC Diamond. And I dont want to use the Zune crap, cause it only allows shifting media files like music and videos...
I mean, WM6, 6.1 and 6.5 had a sperate option (ActiveSync, Memory Access or Internet Sharing) when plugging device to the computer.
Is there any similar app or built-in functionality to do so???
Thanks and regards,
schorschy
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Well, to each its own, some users TOTALLY DISAGREE with you, while I'm just like you thinking that a new system should be inclusive to all features and capabilities provided by the prior one.
Plus, tinkering with system file? well an 8 GB or 16 GB of storage SHOULD be used the way i Like it, not Locked out as some suggests, at least look ROM files, leaving the rest for the user preferences.
Final word, I TOTALLY AGREE with you about your complaint.
Will
Willy318is said:
Well, to each its own, some users TOTALLY DISAGREE with you, while I'm just like you thinking that a new system should be inclusive to all features and capabilities provided by the prior one.
Plus, tinkering with system file? well an 8 GB or 16 GB of storage SHOULD be used the way i Like it, not Locked out as some suggests, at least look ROM files, leaving the rest for the user preferences.
Final word, I TOTALLY AGREE with you about your complaint.
Will
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Now now Will,
I just have trouble grasping this type of thread - this was all known before launch and before devices were available to buy. But hey, whatever.
I've just bought a HD7 too, and I have to admit to being absolutely gutted. Admittedly I didn't do too much research into it before getting it but I just assumed that being a windows mobile device it would be reasonably friendly with windows on my desktop computer. I've been tinkering with zunes to get my old pictures and music onto the phone but it's just ghastly.
Chances are I'll ditch it and get an android methinks. Real shame because I used to love my old HD2.
admittedly, i didn't research on this phone before getting it... just because i trusted the plattform - wm6.1 and wm6.5 were stable enough... however, after getting the device, i must say it's nothing for "tweaker", but a pure media consumption system. and thats why i hate it - fancy layers, nice optics, easy-to-use apps, but... zero funtionality. using it makes me feel i'm a little schoolgirl wearing a pink t-shirt.
gonna give it back and get hd2. the lesson i learnt for the second time (after getting fresh-presented htc diamond touch in 2008):
it's better to have an older device with mature os and application landscape than to have the latest device with lots of "fancy" stuff!
never do the same mistake again... thanks to all for replies and warm greetings from germany!
For goodness sake, it was so well trailed that MS would make WP7 a locked down system it would have taken hardly any research to find it out. I wish I had the cash to purchase £500 smartphones with little or no research up front. There is nothing wrong with wanting to tweak etc. but to do so, get an android device, a WM6.5 device, a jail broken iPhone or wait until someone "jailbreaks" WP7. Sheesh it's like saying "OMG I bought a Toyota and am so disappointed to find it isn't a Ford"
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For goodness sake, it was so well trailed that MS would make WP7 a locked down system it would have taken hardly any research to find it out. I wish I had the cash to purchase £500 smartphones with little or no research up front. There is nothing wrong with wanting to tweak etc. but to do so, get an android device, a WM6.5 device, a jail broken iPhone or wait until someone "jailbreaks" WP7. Sheesh it's like saying "OMG I bought a Toyota and am so disappointed to find it isn't a Ford"
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Exactly.
Also there is a reason the product is called Windows Phone 7 and not Windows Mobile 7. I noticed its referred to as Windows Mobile 7 a lot in this thread.
Am I mistaken or didn't MS say they would still maintain updates to the old wm6.5 os as a side project?
also how can anyone say zune is ghastly? its easily the best media organizer there is 100times better than itunes and as for android i had a desire and the syncing was so basic and naff. Another good thing with zune is the music organization, look at itunes and getting album art it is dire. Zune on the other hand is easy as pie and if you cant find it in the library even a 5yo could use the manual edit tool. With Zune everything has the right name album art etc my itunes (i have a mac mini in my living room connected to my tv) is about 80% the rest is to messy to be bothered with. I found when syncing with my desire hardly any artwork came through and the media folders where dire to navigate (this is a biggie as i use it to play music in my car)
I think the thing here is as stated before, the facts are out there this phone is what it is. It is not a win 6.5 update it is a separate mobile os. The features it has are are far beyond anything else out there but if you want something that does something else then buy something else. You don't buy a toaster to fry chips.
+1 On the Zune is excellent front....awesome software
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You don't buy a toaster to fry chips.
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That's a late night half-drunk/half-stoned experiment just begging to be done... where's my toaster?
Ive been a committed HTC and WM user for a long time now, so latest upgrade i maintained tradition and went HTC HD 7.
At the minute im not sure it was the right one
Lovely fluid interface and fast. But its just not 'easy'..... or something..... I cant put my finger on it. lol
So can some convinced users help me here/ fill me in (and in the process enlighten other newbies).
1/ Battery meter. Only seem to have it when locked. How can i get that into a more prominent place or have it appearing all the time?
2/ No Opera for WM7 Any other browser alternatives out there for us??
3/ Any way for me to get my SPB backups from touch pro 2 onto this thing???
4/ Recommendations for the absolute BEST backup solution
5/ Other advice for porting contacts from another phone
Thats some of my first thoughts- only got the phone yesterday.
In general as well id really welcome recommended app's to help make this powerful piece of kit into a really useful and worthwhile one.
Thanks in advance for any feedback
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Ive been a committed HTC and WM user for a long time now, so latest upgrade i maintained tradition and went HTC HD 7.
At the minute im not sure it was the right one
Lovely fluid interface and fast. But its just not 'easy'..... or something..... I cant put my finger on it. lol
So can some convinced users help me here/ fill me in (and in the process enlighten other newbies).
1/ Battery meter. Only seem to have it when locked. How can i get that into a more prominent place or have it appearing all the time?
2/ No Opera for WM7 Any other browser alternatives out there for us??
3/ Any way for me to get my SPB backups from touch pro 2 onto this thing???
4/ Recommendations for the absolute BEST backup solution
5/ Other advice for porting contacts from another phone
Thats some of my first thoughts- only got the phone yesterday.
In general as well id really welcome recommended app's to help make this powerful piece of kit into a really useful and worthwhile one.
Thanks in advance for any feedback
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1) you can simply swipe down where the battery meter is ont the tiles page.
2) Windows Phone 7 is a new OS, hence not alot of Apps currently, give it time, according to this quote on WPCentral "With regards to bringing Opera Mobile to the Windows Phone 7 platform, Norem states that the company is continuously evaluating that option." so you never know.
3) Are we talking contacts? you can back them up in PIMBackup, and expert the CSV file (I think) to a google account, and then synch that account with your windows phone 7!
4) ZUNE? when you update your phone, im pretty sure it makes a backup onto your pc/laptop
5) See post 3!
Hope that helps.
1. Just tap the top of the screen, and the battery, wifi, cell connection all pop down. There is currently no way (that I know of) to display it permanently.
2. There are other browsers out there, but they're all built on top of IE. Mango will introduce IE9. IE9 is pretty nice.
3. It's a whole new OS, with very little in common with it's WM predecessors. You couldn't even use Microsoft MyPhone backups.
4. Zune.
5. I would import them into your live (msn, hotmail, live) account over gmail. Personal preference.
Apps:
Amazon Kindle
Amazon.com
Break.com videos
DailyMotion
Espn ScoreCenter
Facebook
Flixter
FM Radio
MSNBC News
The Daily Show
The Onion 7
XDA-Developers
While the app list isn't huge, there's over 15,000 on the marketplace and growing.
If you've not updated your phone to NoDo, do yourself a favor and install Zune. It'll backup your phone prior to updating as well.
I'll contradict Jimbonics above by saying i'd recommend using gmail over hotmail to backup your contacts.
Only reason is i never managed to sync my phone contacts (which were imported from my old sim) to my Hotmail/Live account, which meant when i reflashed the phone i lost them all. One of my friends has a similar problem and is also unable to backup his contacts he has on his phone to hotmail.
Since i added them all to my Gmail account though everything has been fine. I can add new ones on Gmail and they sync up to my phone, or I can add new contacts on my phone and they sync up to gmail. I haven't heard of anyone else (yet?) having problems with Gmail Sync's either.
I've been searching for .XAP decompiler/disAssembler (to do reverse engineer) for phone 8 xap files. I've seen that the new .xap files are not longer simple .zip/.rar files. They have something more.
In short I'm asking something similar to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1443692 for phone 8 . Does anyone know any (free) tool which can help me out ?
Could you please attache XAP? I'll investigate it.
Sure
Please see the attachment.
It appears MS have encrypted XAPs now - this has a PlayReady DRM header:
Code:
<WRMHEADER xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/DRM/2007/03/PlayReadyHeader" version="4.0.0.0"><DATA><PROTECTINFO><KEYLEN>16</KEYLEN><ALGID>AESCTR</ALGID></PROTECTINFO><KID>w3i0edJP7EOqQ6aQzdAoSQ==</KID><LA_URL>http://microsoft.com/</LA_URL><CUSTOMATTRIBUTES xmlns=""><S>9FcV5qmfIsMc+X2MVmX3Hw==</S><KGV>0</KGV></CUSTOMATTRIBUTES><CHECKSUM>Hu3+fizBvKU=</CHECKSUM></DATA></WRMHEADER>
So, does it mean I'll never be able to decompile any .xap ?
XAPs downloaded from the Marketplace are encrypted starting sometime in summer last year. That was also the time when devices that had not installed the WP7.5 update lost access to the Marketplace.
So unless you know the decryption key no: you won't be able to decompile XAP files downloaded from the Marketplace. As for XAPs you get from a Dev directly or created yourself - those should still be in the same ZIP-Format as before.
if we get admin access on the phone we can make the phone to decompile it for us and then make an unencrypted version of the .xap
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XAPs downloaded from the Marketplace are encrypted starting sometime in summer last year. That was also the time when devices that had not installed the WP7.5 update lost access to the Marketplace.
So unless you know the decryption key no: you won't be able to decompile XAP files downloaded from the Marketplace. As for XAPs you get from a Dev directly or created yourself - those should still be in the same ZIP-Format as before.
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Does anybody developed some hack to see content of .xap files which are from market place ? if yes, where can I get it ?
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if we get admin access on the phone we can make the phone to decompile it for us and then make an unencrypted version of the .xap
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And how can I get admin permission on my phone win 8 phone ? In other words, is it possible to get admin permission on win 8 mobile ?
@shek007
WP8 is much more secure than WP7. So it will take much time or never to hack the OS.
Regarding the xap decompile, it seems you are insisting on 'hacking'. That is a bad behaviour, trying to steal other's logic/data If it's your's or friend's .xap, then you'll get access to the code. Otherwise you have no right to decompile the code if it's not yours or the others didn't provide you access.
Anyway, you got the answer back then: no, it won't work.
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And how can I get admin permission on my phone win 8 phone ? In other words, is it possible to get admin permission on win 8 mobile ?
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1. No one knows what "win 8 phone" and "win 8 mobile" are. Never heard of those.
2. Go somewhere else to discuss theft.
narrowing the subject to "theft" is not appropriate as when one wants to make out the most of some applications.
Examples are: Decompile the Field Test app from nokia to see the internal API calls to the radio module in order to obtain RF related data, such as cell ID, MCC+MNC, Ec/Lo etc..
using this API calls we can make Apps for RF field engineers to test the network performance and signal levels using the Lumia phone.
This functionality is well known on others smartphones but lacking in Windows Phone platform so far.
Another example will be using multiple whatsapp accounts in the same phone ( another functionality from other mobile platform missing in WP)
As far as I understood the security architecture not just any App would be able to access those APIs even if it knew about them. It requires special permissions and I would guess that at the moment those are not available with a regular Developer Unlock.
As for decrypting the file or gaining access to the phone and extracting the data from there: WP8 security has not yet been broken. There might be people working on it but for now we know of no way to do it.
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As far as I understood the security architecture not just any App would be able to access those APIs even if it knew about them. It requires special permissions and I would guess that at the moment those are not available with a regular Developer Unlock.
As for decrypting the file or gaining access to the phone and extracting the data from there: WP8 security has not yet been broken. There might be people working on it but for now we know of no way to do it.
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Idk if you guys know about this website... [http]://xapapp[dot]blogspot.com/
this guys does exactly what the OP asked. If m wrong then please correct me
I guess I'll have to wait until I can learn about this
Btw, I never had intention to hack/theft others app..
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1. No one knows what "win 8 phone" and "win 8 mobile" are. Never heard of those.
2. Go somewhere else to discuss theft.
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1. Yes. No one knows what win 8 phone is.
That is why YOU are on this forum thread., because is called just like that. "Windows Phone 8" looks similar to windows 8 phone. Or not.
2. " Windows Phone 8 Development and Hacking>> Windows Phone 8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting" is the name of this thread. So, where else could discuss hacking windows 8 apps.
You just needed to post something.
I just needed to reply (two years later), so I joined to forum. :laugh:
BTW are there any new tools for decompile xap files?
Please don't necropost!
Posting here rather in a PM in the hopes that others will see and remember...
You just posted in a 22-month-inactive thread. This violates a near-universal guideline (sometimes rule) of online forums: do not post in dead threads (common called "necroposting"). Your post added nothing of value and effectively constitutes spam, as it brings a thoroughly outdated thread to the top of the forum list. It's much better to create a new thread (linking the old one, if you feel that will help) as then people who read earlier posts in the thread but don't notice the datestamps won't be seeing stuff that is years out of date.
While I agree that the person you responded to was being needlessly pedantic, it does seriously annoy some members of the community to have people screw up the name of the OS. Win8 and WP8 have about as much in common as Mac OS X and iOS; that doesn't mean it's reasonable to say an iPhone runs "Phone OS X". The fact that there existed a legacy (and *very* different) OS called Windows Mobile (or WinMo), and that people routinely seem to think that WP is just the continuation of WinMo (it's really, really not), is a large part of why some folks stomp on people who use the wrong name for the OS.
Decompiling apps is easy. Breaking PlayReady DRM is really, really hard. There's no decompiler anywhere I know of that can take a DRMed XAP and decompile it. You'll have to get the app without DRM encryption if you want to decompile it.
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Hi Folks, I hope I'm posting this in the right section withoud doubling another thread because I have found hints here and there but no actual, efficient solution to my problem.....
Excuse my english, I'm french and couldn't find any solution on french forums either so I'm knocking at your door....
I've always had Android devices but because of some technical issues my provider lended me a WM8 phone (Nokia Lumia 520) for a couple of months before I can get back a new Android phone.
I have the two phones with me for a couple of days but I'm having a hard time transfering some data from the WM8 phone back to my Android, especilly :
-call log (could cope without)
-pdf files (important)
-sms threads (critical)
I mainly focused on SMS's, thinking of different means I could expand upon later on if need be (app, backuping through desktop, outlook or Gmail synch, getting android to synch with OneDrive....) none of this worked so far.
Thanks in advance for your kind help
The only one you will get is the PDF files. You should be able to upload them all into OneDrive and then download them to your PC. From there, transfer them to your Android. The other two are stuck in the Windows cloud, just like how you can't transfer SMS threads from iPhone to Android.
if you come up with something, let the rest of us know!
It *might* be possible to import messages using Bluetooth. I know you can do it from Android to WP8. The other direction... never tried, no idea.
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It *might* be possible to import messages using Bluetooth. I know you can do it from Android to WP8. The other direction... never tried, no idea.
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I hoped so from the very begining but I couldn't find any info about doing it the other way round as you mention :/
in the worst case, is there a means to backup those sms in order to check them later on, or print them maybe ?
Well, they're automatically backed up if you turn it on (Settings -> Backup) but that just goes to Microsoft's "cloud" and I don't know how easy it is to find / download / import it would be.