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having recently picked up a Playbook in the price slash, i have loved using it, but im an Android fan at heart. the QNX OS is actually a lot better than most would have you believe, and is easily competition for iOS if not Android.
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Since this device was built for BB by the same people who make the Kindle, and now its been rooted via Dingleberry, would it be possible to install Android on it. spec wise its easily capable of running 4.0, it has many benefits over the similar Kindle such as larger capacity, and HDMI out. so is anyone working on this? obviously id like to see a 4.0 release for Playbook, since 2.3 really doesnt quite cut it on Tablets, as the Galaxy Tab 7 and HTC flyer showed.
will i see a Tablet version Android Port to my favourite 7incher?
Esto es d e blackberry
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Esto es d e blackberry
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well, no, its about Android development. on a device that was made by a company who also produces another very similar device, though one is marketed by amazon and one by BlackBerry.
At the moment, no. The playbook uses the QNX operating system. just have to give it time, it will probably happen eventually.
The biggest issue with getting Android onto the Blackberry was the locked bootloader. From their was a matter of getting a root method and then trying to construct a way to install a entirely different operating system on hardware that wasn't built for it. I have no doubt that you will see Android on the playbook, it is just taking a LOT longer then any expected.
As a middle ground, the Blackberry QNX OS 2 beta allows for Android Market Support, though it is NOT full blown android
http://liliputing.com/2011/12/install-android-market-on-blackberry-playbook.html
here is a link to a forum dedicated to developement for the Blackberry Playbook
http://forums.crackberry.com/playbook-rooting-f256/
This thread feels relatively on-topic
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hi, so to introduce myself, I've been a nexus s user for quite some time.
I've now decided that it is time to change phones, and having been with the small nexus s form factor I find it difficult to continue in the nexus line since I would be getting into 5" phones (nexus 5)... even the nexus 4 seems a bit too big for my taste.
That's why I've been on the fence concerning a couple of phones, notably the s4 mini, the one mini, and of course, the moto x.
The reason I post this in the moto x forum is because I am leaning favorably towards the moto x, so I'd like to know what you all think.
here are my very general pros/cons for each phone:
one mini: pros - very aesthetically pleasing design
cons - there seems to be poor development
s4 mini: pros - very small form factor!! bigger screen for the same size as my old nexus s
- also extremely light!
- there seems to be some development
cons - moto x seems better (its lacking the moto x pros, haha)
moto x: pros - its the closest phone to a 'nexus phone', without being one
- its getting 4.4 soon, so I feel like it will probably get more timely updates
- all of its cool gimmicks (customization, touchless control, active notifications, double twist camera)
- i've read about great battery life and perfomance
- i probably wouldn't even want a custom rom if i get Xposed
cons - it may be a bit big? 4.7 seems like a stretch for me
Overall I don't think the one mini is really a true contestant, I just keep it there because I love the design. However between the s4 mini and the moto x I find myself really doubting. I've held an s4 mini and it is really, really light and very very comfortable in the hand. I haven't (and won't have) the chance to hold a moto x so I won't have an element of comparison for the form factor. Care to help me out?
I'd like to hear about your opinions on this! Thanks!
It's not even a competition. CMON MAN!!! S4 mini really?
Buy the Moto X ... you should not even consider that s4 mini thing.
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4.7 is a good size for many people and it feels great in the hand. The X is a very friendly and familiar feeling phone to come to from the Nexus devices in terms of a stock Android experience.
To me, it comes down to the following question -- "Do I want the unique features of the Moto X enough to pick it over Y Phone?" It seems like you value a smaller form factor phone and 4.3" screen more than many of us here would (in fact, I personally wouldn't mind if the X were slightly bigger). The Active Notifications, Always On Voice Command, MotoMaker customizations, and so on are truly what set the X apart from anything else.
I think you really should find a way to get an X in your hand before you commit to it. Do you have a Walmart or Best Buy nearby to demo one? You also have a 14 day (30 in California) trial period at least if you buy it from Motorola. If you find it is too big, simply contact customer support and return it, no questions asked.
If you buy the S4 mini, you get:
cruddy cpu and overall laggy and stuttery performance
cruddy gpu and overall laggy and stuttery performance
cruddy 540p display and bad viewing angles and colors
a small and light phone
extremely slow updates
If you buy the moto x, you get:
decent cpu with exceptional performance
great gpu with exceptional performance
mediocre 720p display with very good color reproduction
a very solid feeling phone that fits in your hand
updates almost as fast as GPE phones
I don't know if this even needs any thinking...it looks like a no-brainer to me
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additionally, moto x has (in order from most useful to least useful):
active notifications
dual antennae LTE (MIMO)
fast wifi (support for ac bands)
touchless controls
really good battery life
a cool dimple that makes the phone super comfortable to hold
that's no S4 mini.. tha'ts a Samsung Victory 2 in disguise.. do the moto x
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4.7 is a good size for many people and it feels great in the hand. The X is a very friendly and familiar feeling phone to come to from the Nexus devices in terms of a stock Android experience.
To me, it comes down to the following question -- "Do I want the unique features of the Moto X enough to pick it over Y Phone?" It seems like you value a smaller form factor phone and 4.3" screen more than many of us here would (in fact, I personally wouldn't mind if the X were slightly bigger). The Active Notifications, Always On Voice Command, MotoMaker customizations, and so on are truly what set the X apart from anything else.
I think you really should find a way to get an X in your hand before you commit to it. Do you have a Walmart or Best Buy nearby to demo one? You also have a 14 day (30 in California) trial period at least if you buy it from Motorola. If you find it is too big, simply contact customer support and return it, no questions asked.
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You are probably the only one who understood that the actual dilemma for me is the size. I wont be able to hold one because I live in france. Im planning on ordering it, having it shipped to France and then sim-unlocking it.
Anyway thanks for everyone's unanimous point of views. I think im going to take the leap in size barrier and go with ghe moto x!
Its going to be soo nice to have a new great phone!! I can't tell you how sluggish, laggy and poor in battery life my nexus s is...
Hi,
I am currently using HTC One X (with CM 11) as my daily driver and looking to upgrade my device. One of the devices that I am considering is the Moto G 2014. When I compared the specs, it does not appear to be much of an upgrade as both devices seem more or less comparable with biggest differences in the processor (One X: dual core vs. Moto G: quad core) and LTE support (One X: supports LTE vs. Moto G: no LTE support). If there is anyone who is familiar with the performance/user experience of both devices, I would appreciate it if you can share your thoughts. I am especially interested to hear from those out there who have made the same move I am considering.
Cheers,
Magnity
I made a similar transition after my HTC One XL (evita) gave out (buttons failed, screen cracked). I was holding out for the Nexus 6 until it was confirm to be massive and expensive. I agree with your assessment that XL --> Moto G 2014 is not much of a step up in terms of hardware. However, the Moto G 2014 is running KitKat, virtually stock, (I was running altered stock 4.2 on XL) and will get 5.0 upgrade. Somewhat of a lateral move, however, I paid $180 outright for my phone and drop the subsidy cost associated with a contract of ~15 dollars/month when I had the XL.
@YertletheTurtle Thanks for the reply. In terms of performance while in use, do you feel that the Moto G is an improvement? From what I have seen on the web, it seems that the Moto G is actually a downgrade if you'er looking at benchmarks here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKLTNYY1HDw
But I know benchmarks do not necessarily translate to better performance while in use.
I have had my HTC One X (mine is the XL-Evita model as well) since it came out and it is working just fine *knock on wood*. I have been able to breath some new live(s) into it using custom ROMs (mainly CM, because I enjoy the close-to-stock android experience). But since developers' support for the XL-Evita has not been as vibrant as it used to be (the fate of all older phones), I am looking to get a new device that will continue to receive newer versions of android (from OEMs and/or developers). However, I also want this new device to feel like it is an upgrade, performance wise, to justify the cost (180 Eur in the Moto G case).
Cheers,
Magnity
In my use (phone calls, browsing web, pictures), I do not think that it is a step up in terms of performance from the HTC One XL. I think that it is on par with that device. My experience with the phone is similar to others on this forum (browser stutters a bit, poweramp stutters occasionally). Perhaps with optimized/enhanced kernels, this will improve. In summary, my advice is not to expect improvements going from HTC One XL.
Many thanks for the feedback.
Cheers,
Magnity
My contract with verizon is up soon and i am deciding between both these phones.. I love the style and near naked android feel of the moto x but i have real concerns for battery life throughout the day.The turbo is a powerhouse on the battery side and is strong overall ,the thickness and size makes it less pocket friendly and the capacitive buttons aren't optimal... Since moto x has been out awhile i was looking to get opinions from owners on their likes/dislikes and if they would still pick a moto x over a turbo.. thanks
I just checked out the Turbo the other day and wasn't really impressed with it. The screen is better, but not THAT much (I'm not a QHD fan), and the fact that it requires extra horsepower just to match the performance of flagship 1080p phones like the X, it doesn't seem any faster or smoother than the X does. The X has a much better design, better in hand feel, better build materials, is more pocketable, and while it doesn't have 2 day battery life like the Turbo (per Motorola's claims) it still gets pretty amazing battery life. I average 6 hours screen time daily, and never have to plug my phone in before bedtime. I really wanted to like the Turbo as I had my eyes set on the Moto Maxx that's supposed to be coming out soon, but my honestly unbiased opinion is that the X is the better all around device.
Hi, i'm planning to buy a new phone. Currently i've a Samsung Galaxy S2 (i9100) and want something faster and updated.
After consider various options (phones features, prices, availability in my country) i reduced the list to the Motorola Moto X 2014 and the Sony Xperia Z3 Compact.
The things that interest me are:
Good audio quality and volume with headphones. I own a Sennheiser HD 429s headphones, wich have 32 ohm of impedance, so with the S2 i must use headphone amplifier (FiiO E6) for get more volume and "definition". My idea with a new phone is use the headphones without the amplifier (because the HD 429s have mic, and with the amplifier i cannot use)
Good Android support and fast updates. I think the Moto X is best on this point compared to the Z3C (pure Android & updates), but also know the Sony AOSP project and the efforts of Sony to bring Lollipop quickly.
Good community support and ROMs. I love to install ROMS and get the best of my device. Currently have CM10.2 on my S2. I think the Moto X will be better on this point
Powerful performance. Both devices have Snapdragon 801 @2.5 Ghz, so i think the performance is guaranteed. But ¿the customized UI on the Z3C affects the performance of the phone? ¿is best to performance getting pure Android, as on Moto X?
Good battery life and construction quality. I want to escape from all-plastic Samsung devices. Also, i don't want a big phone. The 5.2" screen and phone size of the Moto X is the maximum size that i can bear
So, what phone you recommend to buy guys? Someone have tested the phones with 32 ohm headphones?
Thanks.:good:
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Hi, i'm planning to buy a new phone. Currently i've a Samsung Galaxy S2 (i9100) and want something faster and updated.
After consider various options (phones features, prices, availability in my country) i reduced the list to the Motorola Moto X 2014 and the Sony Xperia Z3 Compact.
The things that interest me are:
Good audio quality and volume with headphones. I own a Sennheiser HD 429s headphones, wich have 32 ohm of impedance, so with the S2 i must use headphone amplifier (FiiO E6) for get more volume and "definition". My idea with a new phone is use the headphones without the amplifier (because the HD 429s have mic, and with the amplifier i cannot use)
Good Android support and fast updates. I think the Moto X is best on this point compared to the Z3C (pure Android & updates), but also know the Sony AOSP project and the efforts of Sony to bring Lollipop quickly.
Good community support and ROMs. I love to install ROMS and get the best of my device. Currently have CM10.2 on my S2. I think the Moto X will be better on this point
Powerful performance. Both devices have Snapdragon 801 @2.5 Ghz, so i think the performance is guaranteed. But ¿the customized UI on the Z3C affects the performance of the phone? ¿is best to performance getting pure Android, as on Moto X?
Good battery life and construction quality. I want to escape from all-plastic Samsung devices. Also, i don't want a big phone. The 5.2" screen and phone size of the Moto X is the maximum size that i can bear
So, what phone you recommend to buy guys? Someone have tested the phones with 32 ohm headphones?
Thanks.:good:
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Both are great devices. My brother in law bought a Z3 Compact just a month ago and I bought my Moto X 2 weeks ago, so I have tasted both devices .
A few points:
- Build quality: the Z3 Compact is nice, but by far the Moto X has a more premium build. The look and grip of the Moto X, for me, is the best in the Android market right now.
- Performance: the Moto X has the most fluid and best performance in the Android market, you can check that in every forum.
- Updates support: Motorola has been great in this. To be honest when I bought the phone (Moto X) I thought I would get the OTA in a couple days...its been 2 weeks and nothing. And for what I've read, Lollipop is quiet buggy yet, so better to wait a little bit hehehehehe
- Camera: in here i think the Z3 Compact wins. The Moto X camera is good enough, but not great.
- Battery life: to be honest I haven's asked my brother in law regarding his battery life with the Z3 Compatc. Regarding the Moto X, I've read that some people think is average-bad. In my case, I think is OK. I can make the whole day and plug it at night with 30-20% remaining, depending in how much time I play with Angry Birds Transformers hahahahahah
Overall my friend, both great phones! going from a Samsung S2 to any of this 2 phones will be a BIG BIG update for you, so you will enjoy both!
Cheers and congratz for your purchase (whichever you chose )
xsam123 said:
Hi, i'm planning to buy a new phone. Currently i've a Samsung Galaxy S2 (i9100) and want something faster and updated.
After consider various options (phones features, prices, availability in my country) i reduced the list to the Motorola Moto X 2014 and the Sony Xperia Z3 Compact.
The things that interest me are:
Good audio quality and volume with headphones. I own a Sennheiser HD 429s headphones, wich have 32 ohm of impedance, so with the S2 i must use headphone amplifier (FiiO E6) for get more volume and "definition". My idea with a new phone is use the headphones without the amplifier (because the HD 429s have mic, and with the amplifier i cannot use)
Good Android support and fast updates. I think the Moto X is best on this point compared to the Z3C (pure Android & updates), but also know the Sony AOSP project and the efforts of Sony to bring Lollipop quickly.
Good community support and ROMs. I love to install ROMS and get the best of my device. Currently have CM10.2 on my S2. I think the Moto X will be better on this point
Powerful performance. Both devices have Snapdragon 801 @2.5 Ghz, so i think the performance is guaranteed. But ¿the customized UI on the Z3C affects the performance of the phone? ¿is best to performance getting pure Android, as on Moto X?
Good battery life and construction quality. I want to escape from all-plastic Samsung devices. Also, i don't want a big phone. The 5.2" screen and phone size of the Moto X is the maximum size that i can bear
So, what phone you recommend to buy guys? Someone have tested the phones with 32 ohm headphones?
Thanks.:good:
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Hi fellow chilean,
I have a moto x, I don't know about the audio output but my cons against the phone:
- Below average battery life (I have to plug it during the day to make it)
- Regular camera
The pros about z3:
-Is waterproof.
Good audio quality and volume with headphones: Neither is spectacular here, but both should do better than the Galaxy S2. The GS2 had pretty low output power so it struggled with headphones but was great if you were using an external amplifier. Both the Z3C and Moto X can output more power on their own. The Moto X has less noise, but has a strange drop-off in the bass frequency response around 100MHz.
Good Android support and fast updates: Moto X wins here at least based on historical data.
Good community support and ROMs: Right now, neither is particularly good for development. The Moto X 2013 didn't really get much ROM support until 4-6 months after release. I don't know much about the support history of Sony devices.
Powerful performance: Performance should be about the same. The Z3C's skin is not particularly heavy.
Good battery life and construction quality: Both the Z3C and the Moto X are well made. The Moto X might have the slight edge on construction quality, but the Z3C has the advantage of being waterproof. The Z3C is by far the winner on battery life. In PhoneArena's tests it actually got the best battery life of any current smartphone, while the Moto X is on the bottom as far as current phones go.
I have both devices. Audio is much better on the X (I'm a musician as well) camera is much better on the z3c. Battery life is FAR superior on the z3c. Honestly it's the best battery life I've seen on any device I've owned and I've owned countless devices. The only one I've owned that had battery life comparable was the OnePlus One.
The Moto X is much more snappy and fluid. I love the size of the z3c and it fits my hand perfectly and it's refreshing to have that much power in a "normal" size phone. But the X feels more natural in the hand and hugs it better..
When both were on 4.4.4 I was using my z3c as my daily driver then when lollipop dropped I switched to using the X again. I'm sure I'll go back to the z3c when 5.0 drops for it and am actually using it now because I shattered the screen on mine and have to send it for repair
Is size important to you? The z3c is similar size to last years X. The size difference between last year and this is noticeable, in both good and bad ways. Are you at all bought into the SONY environment? Have a playstation 4? The z3c has a sony media environment tie-in if that is a factor for you. I considered the z3c, but the more pure android environment and design of the X won for me.
Today I buyed the Moto X 2nd Gen. What a beast in performance! I'm really impressed with the speed and features of the phone. Sadly, can't play 24-bit flacs (despite the SD 801), but overall I'm very satisfied with my choice I choosed the X over the Z3 Compact because the Z3C have a quiet audio output with headphones compared to the X, and I read great reviews about Active Display and Moto Voice. Thanks to all!
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Today I buyed the Moto X 2nd Gen. What a beast in performance! I'm really impressed with the speed and features of the phone. Sadly, can't play 24-bit flacs (despite the SD 801), but overall I'm very satisfied with my choice I choosed the X over the Z3 Compact because the Z3C have a quiet audio output with headphones compared to the X, and I read great reviews about Active Display and Moto Voice. Thanks to all!
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Wellcome to the club man! great choice! enjoy.
PD: Im from Chile too and I have a tutorial to update it to Android 5. I didn't want to wait for Claro to release it (easily it will take them 2-3 more months). Anyways...let me know and I send you the tutorial via private message.