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OK, I think I understand nandroid on a basic level. It backs stuff up. Everything. But I'm confused as to how it works. I have CM 6.1 RC1 on my phone right now. I want to try a Sense based ROM but don't want to lose everything. Especially my apps. If I do a nandroid backup before I install the new ROM will the data be compatible with the new ROM? Will the apps work with all their settings intact? Seems to me a different ROM would have weird little things that are incompatible. Seems to me nandroid is more of a way to revert to your previous ROM in case the new one doesn't work out. Does that sound right?
As I understand it, a nandroid back-up is basically a photo copy of your current rom, apps and settings. If you're using ROM manager go into that and choose the "Back up current ROM" choice and it'll back it up and save it to the SD card. If you install a new ROM you'll do a wipe and everything will be gone and then installed with the new ROM. To get it back to the way it was your have your back-up rom saved on the SD card and you can flash that to get it back to the way it was. Does anyone want to double check me on this since I could be wrong?
benutne said:
Seems to me nandroid is more of a way to revert to your previous ROM in case the new one doesn't work out. Does that sound right?
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That's exactly right. It's a flashable backup of a full ROM. If you want to only backup apps, use titanium backup.
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TheEscapist said:
That's exactly right. It's a flashable backup of a full ROM. If you want to only backup apps, use titanium backup.
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Flashable? So I don't have to install the old ROM first then do the nondroid restore?
benutne said:
Flashable? So I don't have to install the old ROM first then do the nondroid restore?
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A nandroid restore is done through recovery, not the ROM. So you could have a Sense based ROM and nandroid (assuming you have made one and it's on your SD card) to a CM ROM
What you should do is install a ROM, set it up how you like/want it then nandroid right away. You can do that with a few ROMS, test them out, choose your favorite and go with it, always keeping the option to go back to any of them
is it only done through rom manager, or can i get a nandroid backup in cwm recovery?
naranova7 said:
is it only done through rom manager, or can i get a nandroid backup in cwm recovery?
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You can backup in recovery. I never use ROM manager anyway.
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i second that duce rom manager is pretty bad now adays the only thing its good for is installing recovery and fixing permissons but thats about it.
Bierce22 said:
i second that duce rom manager is pretty bad now adays the only thing its good for is installing recovery and fixing permissons but thats about it.
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$su
#flash_image recovery /sdcard/nameofrecovery.img
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$su
#fix_permissions
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ROM manager entirely unnecessary
I want to clear my phone completely back to bare-bones 2.1. I do want to save my last good set up with froyo, so;
1) Is it a good idea to do a complete restore.
2) Is it better to leave the phone as is (leaving b/u in tact) or can I save the last b/u to my computer? If so how (Tibu, ROM Man???). How would I return this file back to the phone if necessary?
I never do any more backing up than Titanium Backup of apps. I know clockwork recovery can make a nandroid backup. It saves it to a folder on the internal sd card (Clockworkmod I think) and you could copy that to your computer. Then copy it back if you want to restore. The feature is there, I assume it works, but I have never personally done it. You could do all this through clockwork recovery, make the back up, and restore later if you want. You can leave the backup on your phone after you go back to stock, odin will not clear it off unless you do a "Master Clear". Then you would just have to reflash clockwork recovery, and you could restore.
I've transferred both tibu and nandroid (rom manager) backups to my pc and then restored from them after a master clear by copying them back to the phone from the pc. With the nandroid backup, you have to reinstall the rom first, and it must be the same rom you backed up.
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Good advice thanks:
quarlow said:
I never do any more backing up than Titanium Backup of apps. I know clockwork recovery can make a nandroid backup. It saves it to a folder on the internal sd card (Clockworkmod I think) and you could copy that to your computer. Then copy it back if you want to restore. The feature is there, I assume it works, but I have never personally done it. You could do all this through clockwork recovery, make the back up, and restore later if you want. You can leave the backup on your phone after you go back to stock, odin will not clear it off unless you do a "Master Clear". Then you would just have to reflash clockwork recovery, and you could restore.
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creepyncrawly said:
I've transferred both tibu and nandroid (rom manager) backups to my pc and then restored from them after a master clear by copying them back to the phone from the pc. With the nandroid backup, you have to reinstall the rom first, and it must be the same rom you backed up
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I was thinking this was the case. My only concern is on the re-install, would I be correct in my asumption, that not only would I need the rom installed but the theme as well?
tomween1 said:
Good advice thanks:...would I be correct in the thought that not only would I need the rom installed but the theme as well?
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Disclaimer: I've not tried it. A nandroid backup restores everything in the rom plus apps, but not the kernel, so it should restore your theme and your apps. In that case you may not even need the tibu.
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creepyncrawly said:
Disclaimer: I've not tried it. A nandroid backup restores everything in the rom plus apps, but not the kernel, so it should restore your theme and your apps. In that case you may not even need the tibu.
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Well it's done, we'll see how it goes when I need it
I think the trick is having a working base rom and it being the same as the backup. Id be curious to try restoring a previous version of the same rom. How bad could it get?
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Want to know about backing up roms and restoring them
I want to know wheter we can backup a rom of one mobile and restore it in other mobile. please answer asap.
Abhishek1008 said:
I want to know wheter we can backup a rom of one mobile and restore it in other mobile. please answer asap.
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That may not be a simple question to answer with any certainty. I would not even consider attempting it unless both phone models are exactly the same, you didn't say for sure that this is what you were meaning. If the models are the same: insure they have the same bootloader and modem installed. Then I still would not do it unless the ROM on the second phone is comparable to the ROM you are moving to it. The reason for this caution is that partitioning schemes are not the same on all ROMs, it can even change in a newer version of the same ROM.
dawgdoc said:
That may not be a simple question to answer with any certainty. I would not even consider attempting it unless both phone models are exactly the same, you didn't say for sure that this is what you were meaning. If the models are the same: insure they have the same bootloader and modem installed. Then I still would not do it unless the ROM on the second phone is comparable to the ROM you are moving to it. The reason for this caution is that partitioning schemes are not the same on all ROMs, it can even change in a newer version of the same ROM.
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This :good:
using CWM? i tried to back up using CWM then i after i change rom, then restore.. stucked up with start up like what happened to me when installing MIUI-MCGv7.6.zip. i think installing MIUI-MCGv7.6.zip is a wrong process,. Using kies is a hell too long.
as you can see my phone details:
nieohl said:
using CWM? i tried to back up using CWM then i after i change rom, then restore.. stucked up with start up like what happened to me when installing MIUI-MCGv7.6.zip. i think installing MIUI-MCGv7.6.zip is a wrong process,. Using kies is a hell too long.
as you can see my phone details:
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Re-flashthe kernel.
why dont you use titanium backup.. think its safer...
faria said:
Re-flashthe kernel.
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lol? reflash kernel is a way to back up files so easily? i want to change rom anytime that i want, your answer is not for what i want to know
sphinx02 said:
why dont you use titanium backup.. think its safer...
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thanks! ill consider that a big help
nieohl said:
lol? reflash kernel is a way to back up files so easily? i want to change rom anytime that i want, your answer is not for what i want to know
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From what you posted , i gather that you where having booloops after a restore,this is common, so the fix most times are to flash the kernel.
faria said:
From what you posted , i gather that you where having booloops after a restore,this is common, so the fix most times are to flash the kernel.
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is that boot loop? because it only stucked in that logo. if i tried to charge it, only the loading "little circle" yes, i already know the process on how to fix that . just flash a kernel again,. so restoring may cause bootloop? like how many %?
After you change ROMs you dont restore your CWM back-up.CWM is a back-up just incase something goes wrong.What it does is makes a copy of the ROM settings your phone was on before the flash so if something goes wrong you can get your phone back atleast.To flash a ROM and then restore CWM over top you will end up with your old ROM again.If you only back-up certain things then you are trying to restore certain apps that have settings from your old ROM that probably are not compatable with the new one.Before a flash make a complete CWM back-up just incase something goes wrong but also make one with Titaniun of all your app,contacts and what ever.When all is good and done replace with Titanium and thats it but dont restore your CWM back-up cos your restoring your old ROM again.
cooza said:
After you change ROMs you dont restore your CWM back-up.CWM is a back-up just incase something goes wrong.What it does is makes a copy of the ROM settings your phone was on before the flash so if something goes wrong you can get your phone back atleast.To flash a ROM and then restore CWM over top you will end up with your old ROM again.If you only back-up certain things then you are trying to restore certain apps that have settings from your old ROM that probably are not compatable with the new one.Before a flash make a complete CWM back-up just incase something goes wrong but also make one with Titaniun of all your app,contacts and what ever.When all is good and done replace with Titanium and thats it but dont restore your CWM back-up cos your restoring your old ROM again.
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aww.. didn't know that, well after that boot loop problem, then i flashed XXJVS 2.3.5 kernel, and the rom was gone, it's just gone back for a new phone but 2.3.5 though. so the titanium back up is the best app to restore game app+additional data, contacts and other apps? because now i installed some gameloft games, and they requires 500mb+ additional data(depends on game) that's too lot to download again, our connection is just not that fast for it. i download the additional data for like 6hrs (612mb).
sweet.No worries.There are 2 titanium apps on the market.A paid and a free one.For what you want id get the free one as i dont think you need the advanced settings the pro version has.Titanium backs up whatever app you want with or without data so in your case you can save your games and data aswell and flash new ROMs and wont loose anything.It also links them back to the market again incase of updates.Need to be rooted thought.Do a CWM back-up just in case.flash your ROM and dont forget dalvik cache and cache partion wipes before rebooting.Root your phone reinstall titanium,load your google account and then reinstall with titanium.It installs all at once so you dont have to do one at a time.Good app to have.If something ever did go wrong with the flash and your phone was left semi-bummed or whatever and you didnt know what to do or couldnt fix it then you boot to recovery and restore your CWM back-up to get your phone back to the way it was before the flash.that is what its there for.Its a saftey net.
cooza said:
sweet.No worries.There are 2 titanium apps on the market.A paid and a free one.For what you want id get the free one as i dont think you need the advanced settings the pro version has.Titanium backs up whatever app you want with or without data so in your case you can save your games and data aswell and flash new ROMs and wont loose anything.It also links them back to the market again incase of updates.Need to be rooted thought.Do a CWM back-up just in case.flash your ROM and dont forget dalvik cache and cache partion wipes before rebooting.Root your phone reinstall titanium,load your google account and then reinstall with titanium.It installs all at once so you dont have to do one at a time.Good app to have.If something ever did go wrong with the flash and your phone was left semi-bummed or whatever and you didnt know what to do or couldnt fix it then you boot to recovery and restore your CWM back-up to get your phone back to the way it was before the flash.that is what its there for.Its a saftey net.
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thanks! that info really helps. cheers~
Yesterday, I tried to change ROM (to check it out) so before this I did a backup in CWM.
What a surprise when CWM didnt restore this backup. I was looking through the internet for solution and I found this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15431672&postcount=24
I have same problem as in first post of this thrade (when restoring data, the whole process is stopped) but this solution seems to be for HTC Desire. What could I do if I want data back?
Please help me.
r u using same version of CWM to backup and restore?
new version not backward compatible with an older version backup
Yes, it is the same version
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marek.ns said:
Yesterday, I tried to change ROM (to check it out) so before this I did a backup in CWM.
What a surprise when CWM didnt restore this backup. I was looking through the internet for solution and I found this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15431672&postcount=24
I have same problem as in first post of this thrade (when restoring data, the whole process is stopped) but this solution seems to be for HTC Desire. What could I do if I want data back?
Please help me.
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i've been into situation like this b4 after a restore, cmw say it was a bad restore..i ended up into a soft brick.
now i never use cmw
marek.ns said:
Yesterday, I tried to change ROM (to check it out) so before this I did a backup in CWM.
What a surprise when CWM didnt restore this backup. I was looking through the internet for solution and I found this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15431672&postcount=24
I have same problem as in first post of this thrade (when restoring data, the whole process is stopped) but this solution seems to be for HTC Desire. What could I do if I want data back?
Please help me.
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Did you chaged you kernel ? because some kernel and roms have different CWM versions.eg: version 4 backup is not copatible with 5cwm
lotus13 said:
Did you chaged you kernel ? because some kernel and roms have different CWM versions.eg: version 4 backup is not copatible with 5cwm
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No no, i didnt change anything. The problem is described in that link, it seems that some versions of cwm have problem with restore and have to be fixed than the restore should work. But I dont know how to fix it.
Just simply update CWM to a newer version before restoring the backup.
I pushed the commit long time ago so any "recent" cwm (5.x) will solve the problem.
Hope this helps
Thanks a lot LinoX, but there is only CWM v4.0.1.5 for x8 on XDA.
Is it useful (should I try it?) or do I need newer version? (as you wrote 5.x.x)
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should I try it?
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if it is an unmodified build (from source) then yes (sometimes there're custom modified builds to add functions. Those recoveries can be problematic because they break more than they fix. Recoveries are really important and you should install only "trusted" ones.)
Try with this one and let us know if it suffices (I'm sure 5.x has the fix, I'm not sure if 4.x had it too...but you shouldn't do any damage..at most it will halt again when restoring)
It seems to work but after first restore there were many apps not be restored, so i did another one. It is better now but still there are about 5 apps not restored plus stock Internet browser (dont know if some other system apps too).
I think it is strange that after every restore there is not same result and not what was backuped at all.
Where could be a problem and is it worth to try restore until everything is restored?
It is true that backup was created by cwm3.2(seems ported from x10mini) included in gingerdx rom i use.
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marek.ns said:
It seems to work but after first restore there were many apps not be restored, so i did another one. It is better now but still there are about 5 apps not restored plus stock Internet browser (dont know if some other system apps too).
I think it is strange that after every restore there is not same result and not what was backuped at all.
Where could be a problem and is it worth to try restore until everything is restored?
It is true that backup was created by cwm3.2(seems ported from x10mini) included in gingerdx rom i use.
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what are you restoring exactly?
Everything Classic recovery backup(system + data + .anfroid secure + cache)
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Oh, i realized something.
There was a problem with my SD recently. I couldnt copy one file from sd to pc. And antutu benchmark always crashes when testing card reading.
Damaged sd may causes problems with restore i mean.
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maybe...
The last thing i'd like to ask.
Is there any tool with i could extract certain apps from the backup?
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excuse me,
what is the latest cmw version for x8? v4?
thanks b4
I found as a zip file only v4.
But there is v5 in custom kernels included.
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marek.ns said:
I found as a zip file only v4.
But there is v5 in custom kernels included.
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thanks, i found cmw v5 in some custom kernel
Hi, I have a nandroidbackup made using CWM 5.0.2.7. And I want to restore it. Now I have CyanogenMod7 and I have Clockworkmod 5.0.0.6.
So I copied the nandroidbackup from external_sd to internal_sd, and now when it shows up in my restore menu.
Is there any problem that the backup was made with Clockworkmod 5.0.2.7 and I restore it with Clockworkmod 5.0.2.6 ?
As the title says, whenever an app requests root permission, a reboot occurs. Any ideas? Running an older (6 months old) version of CM9. I really would like to backup my data before re-installing a new version. Any ideas?
Thanks!
-Erik
burritoboy9984 said:
As the title says, whenever an app requests root permission, a reboot occurs. Any ideas? Running an older (6 months old) version of CM9. I really would like to backup my data before re-installing a new version. Any ideas?
Thanks!
-Erik
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I'd try 2 things.
1. Do a nandroid backup and dirty-flash the newest CM9.
2. Do a nandroid backup and extract your apps and data from it with Titanium Backup.
bananagranola said:
I'd try 2 things.
1. Do a nandroid backup and dirty-flash the newest CM9.
2. Do a nandroid backup and extract your apps and data from it with Titanium Backup.
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I can't use Titanium Backup, when it load it requests root permissions and reboots. I'll try the nandroid and dirty flash later. Any other ideas?
-Erik
Edit: I think I misread that, Titanium Backup can extract apps and data from a nandroid backup?
burritoboy9984 said:
I can't use Titanium Backup, when it load it requests root permissions and reboots. I'll try the nandroid and dirty flash later. Any other ideas?
-Erik
Edit: I think I misread that, Titanium Backup can extract apps and data from a nandroid backup?
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Look here: http://www.guidingtech.com/13501/restore-apps-nandroid-titanium-backup/. I'm not sure if it's a paid feature, since I've never used the free version.
reset reboot loop?
burritoboy9984 said:
As the title says, whenever an app requests root permission, a reboot occurs. Any ideas? Running an older (6 months old) version of CM9. I really would like to backup my data before re-installing a new version. Any ideas?
Thanks!
-Erik
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Does your problem look like this:
I'm having this issue with WebOS and CM9 and I dunno what else to do to solve it...
Jor3lBR said:
Does your problem look like this:
I'm having this issue with WebOS and CM9 and I dunno what else to do to solve it...
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It freezes like that, but I haven't used WebOS in ages and am not sure what exactly you are doing in the video when i reboots. But yes, it freezes for a brief second, and then reboots immediately.
-Erik
Just wanted to say a dirty flash of the latest nightly fixed the issue.
Thanks!
-Erik