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So one of my friends at work had an att tilt. However his son dropped it out of his pants pocket and the screen popped off. Screen is still in one piece however completly seperated from the tilt mechanism and the ribbon cable is missing. So I told him instead of throwing it away (cause att does not offer insurance) to give it to me and I'd see what I can do (Gonna unlock it and use it as an upgrade for my wing ).
I've read some of the hardware manuals and can already see I'll need parts to fix it. But I have no ideas what ones. Or if it's even worth it to fix. I mean its basically a free tilt minus any repair costs. Any help?
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So one of my friends at work had an att tilt. However his son dropped it out of his pants pocket and the screen popped off. Screen is still in one piece however completly seperated from the tilt mechanism and the ribbon cable is missing. So I told him instead of throwing it away (cause att does not offer insurance) to give it to me and I'd see what I can do (Gonna unlock it and use it as an upgrade for my wing ).
I've read some of the hardware manuals and can already see I'll need parts to fix it. But I have no ideas what ones. Or if it's even worth it to fix. I mean its basically a free tilt minus any repair costs. Any help?
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Check thi site, there is a manual how to dismantle kaiser. Could be helpful:
http://michael-channon.spaces.live....smantling+%2f+Disassembling+Guides+HTC%2fETEN
Thank you, however thats actually the repair manual I looked at. However while looking for parts I have yet to find the ribbon cable that connects to the display.
This is basically what I have except the ribbon cable is missing. And alot of steps missing to get it this way.
wshader said:
Thank you, however thats actually the repair manual I looked at. However while looking for parts I have yet to find the ribbon cable that connects to the display.
This is basically what I have except the ribbon cable is missing.
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OMG, that had to hurt.
Yeah, kid was playing basketball and fell out of his pocket. I guess the kid has broke 4 phones this month... curve, tilt, 2 pantec duos. Told my friend to get him a $20 go-phone now lol. And use the savings to get me a tilt
I dont know what kind of damage besides the physical the drop may have caused. Phone was not on at the time so that may have helped it (I hope)
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Yeah, and I dont know what kind of damage besides the physical the drop may have caused. Phone was not on at the time so that may have helped it (I hope)
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I hope u repair it. Wish u luck.
Without actually looking at it, its hard to say what exactly you need. But you for sure need a new flex cable. Unfortunately that is the hardest part to find. At least here in the US. I usually buy broken phones from people who don't want to pay for a repair. Then I use the parts from them. You can get a new housing easily enough if you need it but the flex cable will be your biggest hurdle.
I suggest trying to find one broken on ebay and using the 2 you have to make one working phone. Even a broken Tilt can run for $200 on ebay though.
Anyone notice that case has already been replaced at some stage as it has a camera hole (not standard for Tilts) a keyboard without the white part and no logo. Perhaps the replacement was weaker than the original one. If the O/P searches the forum here for LCD Screen replacements there's loads of links to different companies supplying parts for Kaiser variants. I have no experience using any of them though so cant suggest which ones are best.
@Planet Neo
Yeah I was thinking that but was hoping it wouldn't come to that. Would suck to spend $200 for parts just to find the motherboard is broke or something to that effect. Was hoping someone knew of a place to buy a new cable or had one to sell. Also was hoping someone with some experience could let me know if they think I'd need a new tilt assembly.
@Flying Kiwi
Lol, I used a picture from kaiser disassembly guide to show what i was referring to. It has the standard tilt case. I'll be taking pictures of what I have as soon as I have the phone in my possession.
Okay I assume that its going to be very hard to get the ribbon and you're going to need housing. I believe that it will be the same as making a new tilt, because the screen is as good as dead without the ribbon so all you could do is get new housing and a new screen and it should rack up about $150-200. Which in my opinion is much easier and faster and better than frustrating on getting a ribbon.
Just my 2 cents.
Kraize
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Without actually looking at it, its hard to say what exactly you need. But you for sure need a new flex cable. Unfortunately that is the hardest part to find. At least here in the US. I usually buy broken phones from people who don't want to pay for a repair. Then I use the parts from them. You can get a new housing easily enough if you need it but the flex cable will be your biggest hurdle.
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I'm sure you'll think I'm busting your balls / stalking you but hard to find? Hell no! Expensive, maybe ( $100) but hard to find? I think not. Good job you're not charging people for you expert advice else they'd be wanting refunds....how long did you say you'd been doing this for?
http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?from=R40&_trksid=m37&satitle=tytn+flex&category0=
You need a TYTN II flex. There are many other suppliers and if you go direct they may be a bit cheaper. google is your friend....
To check the board - connect to a windoze computer with a mini USB cable and power up or press the soft reset button to boot it - it should ident and install then try to sync. It should boot fine even with no LCD if it's OK assuming the battery still holds some charge.
A full housing will run you about $60. Some sellers have just front panels for about $40 though I'm unsure if these have the pivot.
M.S
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I'm sure you'll think I'm busting your balls / stalking you but hard to find? Hell no! Expensive, maybe ( $100) but hard to find? I think not. Good job you're not charging people for you expert advice else they'd be wanting refunds....how long did you say you'd been doing this for?
http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?from=R40&_trksid=m37&satitle=tytn+flex&category0=
You need a TYTN II flex. There are many other suppliers and if you go direct they may be a bit cheaper. google is your friend....
To check the board - connect to a windoze computer with a mini USB cable and power up or press the soft reset button to boot it - it should ident and install then try to sync. It should boot fine even with no LCD if it's OK assuming the battery still holds some charge.
A full housing will run you about $60. Some sellers have just front panels for about $40 though I'm unsure if these have the pivot.
M.S
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Man, MS you really need to get off my nuts. It's getting creepy. I said in my post hard to find at least in the US. And the link you gave was for a seller in China. One more word of advice for the OP, Make sure this part actually works for the AT&T Tilt variant. I had a customer buy a Flex cable for the HTC Herald thinking it would work for the T-Mobile Wing but due to the modified button layout of the Wing it did not fit correctly. Much like this person HERE experienced.
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Man, MS you really need to get off my nuts. It's getting creepy. I said in my post hard to find at least in the US. And the link you gave was for a seller in China. One more word of advice for the OP, Make sure this part actually works for the AT&T Tilt variant. I had a customer buy a Flex cable for the HTC Herald thinking it would work for the T-Mobile Wing but due to the modified button layout of the Wing it did not fit correctly. Much like this person HERE experienced.
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These things are made in Shenzhen so where you think the parts come from?
Stop talking &*%(* and I'll stop correcting your posts Instead of saying something is a fact say it's your opinion. It's not a 'rare' part - and they ship WORLDWIDE. It's not as if he'll get one from a local mom and pop store - it's gonna be mail order wherever you get it from and looking at the seller's feedback is a good judge - all my parts come from China - so why pay a middleman such as yourself extra $ just so it has a US stamp on the package?
Someone needs to act as quality control on your posts and it looks like it's gonna have to be me if you keep posting [email protected]
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Hi Guys,
Last night my phone got damaged in an accident. The LCD is broken i think. but the digitizer is alright. I have run out of warranty so just wanted to know how much does the HTC service center charge for the repairing.
I am living in INDIA, Pune.
Also is there any way I can do it myself?
ebay tytn ii lcd... you should be able to find a couple... make sure you get a trox screw driver with it... its really simple to replace
HTC repair services are hard to come by, but there are some online services around $150 or so. you could find a screen on ebay for cheaper, but you will also need a T5, T6, and T7 torx screw drivers as well as tools to break the seam, and flat head and philips screw drivers, along with directions and about 3.5 hours of your time if you want to fix it yourself.
higherbeing said:
ebay tytn ii lcd... you should be able to find a couple... make sure you get a trox screw driver with it... its really simple to replace
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I found this listing
http://cgi.ebay.com/LCD-Touch-Scree...286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66:2|65:15|39:1|240:1318
IS it so cheap?
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I found this listing
http://cgi.ebay.com/LCD-Touch-Scree...286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66:2|65:15|39:1|240:1318
IS it so cheap?
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Ummmm nope friend....thats just the digitizer. They generally run around 45$ or so.
This one looks pretty decent
thanks!
I hope this works. Also I read somewhere that there are two types of LCD,
Green and Normal.
Which one is this?
Take a look there:
http://cnn.cn/shop/8925-tilt-kaiser-c-277_448.html
I purchased one, my was broken too, its very cheap and delivery from China to Swizerland costs only 5$.
ziko said:
Take a look there:
http://cnn.cn/shop/8925-tilt-kaiser-c-277_448.html
I purchased one, my was broken too, its very cheap and delivery from China to Swizerland costs only 5$.
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That shows 75$ + 5 SHIP
What I linked was 36 + free ship.
I was trying to keep costs down for him lol
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Ummmm nope friend....thats just the digitizer. They generally run around 45$ or so.
This one looks pretty decent
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I already ordered that one. I got a offer of free shipping too.
But I will need the help of you guys to fix the screen, Because though I am a Mechanical Engg. I am not so expert in such delicate things.
Mike Channon Should be your friend then
Mike has got you covered for detailed pics and I thought he had vids on his site as well, found HERE. It truly is a simple task. I've done it on 1 Hermes and 2 Kaisers. I should put a shingle up for this kinda stuff !
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Mike has got you covered for detailed pics and I thought he had vids on his site as well, found HERE. It truly is a simple task. I've done it on 1 Hermes and 2 Kaisers. I should put a shingle up for this kinda stuff !
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Thanks. Doesn't look that easy. But I think Practical is always easier than theory
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Thanks. Doesn't look that easy. But I think Practical is always easier than theory
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Ive taken apart my hermes about 50 times in total. It doesnt look like the kaiser is much harder. Ive had no need to as of yet. It might look a tad intimidating at first, but you should be fine. Just take careful to note what came from where as you disassemble it. Mikes guide is pretty in-depth do I would print it out and have a hard copy near you as you make the attempt
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HTC repair services are hard to come by, but there are some online services around $150 or so. you could find a screen on ebay for cheaper, but you will also need a T5, T6, and T7 torx screw drivers as well as tools to break the seam, and flat head and philips screw drivers, along with directions and about 3.5 hours of your time if you want to fix it yourself.
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It took me 35 mins while watching tv and checking emails.
so it may not that long...
It was much easier than I thought. However use the 'only four screw removal method' - no need to take two parts apart as mentioned in some of the instructions you will find here.
I was able to take out four screws, pry apart the two pieces (had to order the special pry tool) and just push up the LCD screen, remove the connecting cable and take it out by sliding it out.
See the following links:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=390724&page=2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=337102&page=5
Thank You guys for all your support and guidence.
I have fixed the LCD and yes it is very simple task, hardly took 30 min.
Hi, this is my first post but I have been following this forum frequently. I want to say thanks in advance for any advice.
I dropped my X1 (a couple of times) and there is a lot of aesthetic damage. So, I was wondering a few things:
1. Can I purchase replacement parts; just the parts that are damaged?
2. If I can purchase replacement parts, can I purchase black parts? I currently have the silver X1 that I purchased from Best Buy and I wanted the black version. I figured if I am going to replace parts, I might be able to replace them with a black "body kit" maybe?
3. Is there a tutorial on this website (I've tried searching but I couldn't find anything) of how to replace the parts?
Once again, I want to say that I tried searching but I couldn't find anything (I hope I don't get yelled at for asking such a dumb question as my first post) and thanks.
Jay
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Hi, this is my first post but I have been following this forum frequently. I want to say thanks in advance for any advice.
I dropped my X1 (a couple of times) and there is a lot of aesthetic damage. So, I was wondering a few things:
1. Can I purchase replacement parts; just the parts that are damaged?
2. If I can purchase replacement parts, can I purchase black parts? I currently have the silver X1 that I purchased from Best Buy and I wanted the black version. I figured if I am going to replace parts, I might be able to replace them with a black "body kit" maybe?
3. Is there a tutorial on this website (I've tried searching but I couldn't find anything) of how to replace the parts?
Once again, I want to say that I tried searching but I couldn't find anything (I hope I don't get yelled at for asking such a dumb question as my first post) and thanks.
Jay
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ebay, housing kit.
example http://cgi.ebay.com/for-Sony-Ericss...s?hash=item45ecc2d709&_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWDurQrRt-Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyGUbxFqvyc&feature=related
two videos one is for the front one is for the back.
and you can switch out the silver with the black.. I think there is even a post on here about it.
m3golmaal said:
Hi, this is my first post but I have been following this forum frequently. I want to say thanks in advance for any advice.
I dropped my X1 (a couple of times) and there is a lot of aesthetic damage. So, I was wondering a few things:
1. Can I purchase replacement parts; just the parts that are damaged?
2. If I can purchase replacement parts, can I purchase black parts? I currently have the silver X1 that I purchased from Best Buy and I wanted the black version. I figured if I am going to replace parts, I might be able to replace them with a black "body kit" maybe?
3. Is there a tutorial on this website (I've tried searching but I couldn't find anything) of how to replace the parts?
Once again, I want to say that I tried searching but I couldn't find anything (I hope I don't get yelled at for asking such a dumb question as my first post) and thanks.
Jay
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Welcome to the posting brotherhood .
It really depends how good you are with electronics. If you fell confident enough to do the repairs yourself, then by all means, try it. Otherwise, purchase the parts and go to o a professional repair shop.
ibeQuint said:
ebay, housing kit.
example http://cgi.ebay.com/for-Sony-Ericss...s?hash=item45ecc2d709&_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWDurQrRt-Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyGUbxFqvyc&feature=related
two videos one is for the front one is for the back.
and you can switch out the silver with the black.. I think there is even a post on here about it.
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Thanks for the help, the videos definitely makes things easier. I'll post pics as soon as I begin to show the damage and then I'll take pics throughout the repair so I can post them.
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Welcome to the posting brotherhood .
It really depends how good you are with electronics. If you fell confident enough to do the repairs yourself, then by all means, try it. Otherwise, purchase the parts and go to o a professional repair shop.
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I fairly confident that I can finish this myself and if I can't I refer to this forum; after all, this is a brotherhood, right?
Is this a Origanal SE Housing kit ??
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ok i bought it and gonna give it a try. this would be mine fourth full case changing on phones.
Hi,
Does anyone know were I can buy a NEW mother board for my tilt?
Regards
Mat
i would say, it's time to buy a new phone for you. sell the rest of it you may still get $50 - $100 for parts
new mobo is just not worth it with kaiser
I thought someone would tell me that.
The big question is what do I go for Touch Pro 2?
If you want to.
MathewRB said:
I thought someone would tell me that.
The big question is what do I go for Touch Pro 2?
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An iPhone 4G
denco7 said:
An iPhone 4G
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A google Nexus or an Iphone 4g is what I would go for.
If you really want to fix it...
Find one on ebay with a Cracked Screen..
Just found a company that will fit a new USB socket £35 ($60)
That looks the best way to go
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Just found a company that will fit a new USB socket £35 ($60)
That looks the best way to go
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the connector is all that's wrong with it????
did you rip it off or is still in place just not usable?
if it's ripped off, it might be that it took piece of circuit with it, but why worry, just get a battery charger with another battery for $10 together and you don't need the connector.
I disabled connector on my kaiser, by trying to reset it, while I was angry and forcefully pushing pen into connector instead of reset button could have been fixed, but I never bothered.
I wouldn't spend $60 on an almost 3 year old phone.
Hello
I recently dropped my Samsung Captivate. First time it had purple spots on the screen in 1 day the whole screen went purple and the next day the whole screen went black The sensor and everything else is working.
How do you think, what may be the issue of this? is the screen completely screwed or there may be another, less important damage.
Lejolasho said:
Hello
I recently dropped my Samsung Captivate. First time it had purple spots on the screen in 1 day the whole screen went purple and the next day the whole screen went black The sensor and everything else is working.
How do you think, what may be the issue of this? is the screen completely screwed or there may be another, less important damage.
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My guess is that you'll have to replace the digitaliser. You can do it yourself or contact mobiletechvideos.com for the job.
If you have any experience in it though, you can try opening your phone and see if anything isn't correctly connected.
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My guess is that you'll have to replace the digitaliser. You can do it yourself or contact mobiletechvideos.com for the job.
If you have any experience in it though, you can try opening your phone and see if anything isn't correctly connected.
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did you mean the whole lcd?
Pretty sure it would be easier to replace the digitizer + screen, since I think they're glued together on the captivate? (correct me if I'm wrong).
It's about $75. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Cap...izer-i896-AT-T-Galaxy-S-Display-/160787040070
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did you mean the whole lcd?
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Pretty sure it would be easier to replace the digitizer + screen, since I think they're glued together on the captivate? (correct me if I'm wrong).
It's about $75. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Cap...izer-i896-AT-T-Galaxy-S-Display-/160787040070
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You would have to replace both, yes.
BWolf56 said:
You would have to replace both, yes.
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At the cost of replace them both i can buy a captivate in better condition i did hope, that there could be another issue. thank you guys.
You can...? Please shoot me a link...haha .
x0ne215 said:
You can...? Please shoot me a link...haha .
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Yeah, I'd like to grab a spare if they are sitting that cheap now.
Sent from my SGH-I897 using xda app-developers app
As far as I've seen, the cheapest I got mine was $80. Bad idea, too many issues, wasted money. Buying anywhere but swappa they're about 150$+. Swappa has one for $135 (hoping to buy that one actually, but either have to wait a week and hope someone doesn't buy it, or sell my pantech crossover faster so I have the money haha).
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As far as I've seen, the cheapest I got mine was $80. Bad idea, too many issues, wasted money. Buying anywhere but swappa they're about 150$+. Swappa has one for $135 (hoping to buy that one actually, but either have to wait a week and hope someone doesn't buy it, or sell my pantech crossover faster so I have the money haha).
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You just have to put "i897" or similar as an ebay saved search that notifies you when new products matching that description are posted.
I bought 1 cappy for $60 from ebay seller alltechwholesale, out of Texas I think. In my experience, they do a good job inspecting the phones first so you know what your going to get. In my experience and many others, the phone arrived in better condition than described....Then I picked up two more sold together on ebay for $70 that were listed as one bad digitizer and the other bad charge port. I got them as parts phones. The one with the "bad digitizer" ended up being just a bad search button because the screen lifted on that corner a little. A 50 cent tube of adhesive fixed that. Then the second of the two just had a dirty charge port and a squirt of crc electronics cleaner fixed it...Now I have a main phone, a backup flashed to be identical, and a media device!!
After taking this phone completely apart a few times it gets pretty easy to see it really is a mini computer and most of the major parts can be bought on ebay for decent prices and replaced fairly easy....The ribbons that connect the various parts can bend and break easily so that is something to keep in mind. I broke the ribbon for the headphone jack assembly but a little hunting on ebay and I had one on it's way for $1.50 after shipping lol.
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You just have to put "i897" or similar as an ebay saved search that notifies you when new products matching that description are posted.
I bought 1 cappy for $60 from ebay seller alltechwholesale, out of Texas I think. In my experience, they do a good job inspecting the phones first so you know what your going to get. In my experience and many others, the phone arrived in better condition than described....Then I picked up two more sold together on ebay for $70 that were listed as one bad digitizer and the other bad charge port. I got them as parts phones. The one with the "bad digitizer" ended up being just a bad search button because the screen lifted on that corner a little. A 50 cent tube of adhesive fixed that. Then the second of the two just had a dirty charge port and a squirt of crc electronics cleaner fixed it...Now I have a main phone, a backup flashed to be identical, and a media device!!
After taking this phone completely apart a few times it gets pretty easy to see it really is a mini computer and most of the major parts can be bought on ebay for decent prices and replaced fairly easy....The ribbons that connect the various parts can bend and break easily so that is something to keep in mind. I broke the ribbon for the headphone jack assembly but a little hunting on ebay and I had one on it's way for $1.50 after shipping lol.
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Haha yes, I can relate to the mini computer aspect. Just spent my day repairing about 8 hp Touchsmarts, the cappy compared to that, is a dream lmao. Much less to deal with . I planned on using the cappy I have now as a spare part phone anyway, unless I can somehow get it to work. But I didn't know about the whole ebay thing. I shall do that now, thanks a TON :fingers-crossed:
EDIT: Just checked alltechwholesale ebay store, SO MANY CAPPYS FOR SALE!!! All around the same price, seems they put it up for 0.99 and someone keeps jacking it up to $70 shortly after. My only thing -- I hate auctions . But great share and bookmarked
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Haha yes, I can relate to the mini computer aspect. Just spent my day repairing about 8 hp Touchsmarts, the cappy compared to that, is a dream lmao. Much less to deal with . I planned on using the cappy I have now as a spare part phone anyway, unless I can somehow get it to work. But I didn't know about the whole ebay thing. I shall do that now, thanks a TON :fingers-crossed:
EDIT: Just checked alltechwholesale ebay store, SO MANY CAPPYS FOR SALE!!! All around the same price, seems they put it up for 0.99 and someone keeps jacking it up to $70 shortly after. My only thing -- I hate auctions . But great share and bookmarked
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yeah, alltech is just auctions but I just took time to read conditions and saved a bunch and you'll find that they go for different prices depending on what's wrong and even depending on the day or time of day lol......That's why I suggested saving the search too. I use the ebay app and when there is new listings of my saved searches I get a notification so I go and look. If your quick, You can possibly snag a "buy it now" at a decent price depending on the condition your looking for. I really couldn't believe I ended up with 3 100% working phones and maybe I just got lucky, but I'd say it's worth a try lol.
I'd say it was a combination of good research, and amazing luck hahaha. But I do appreciate it a lot, thanks for the info, cheers
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At the cost of replace them both i can buy a captivate in better condition i did hope, that there could be another issue. thank you guys.
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Sorry we kind of got off the subject, But for the digitizer try what Bwolf said about the connections.
Once when I was testing the power button I soldered on my old cappy I didn't get one of the ribbons all the way on (i believe it was the ribbon near the power button), and the screen flashed a few different colors.
There is at least one probably more youtube vids with pointers on how to get the cappy apart in a way that wont do damage.
I know there's a tare-down guide here, and there was a YouTube video where someone replaced the screen, if I can find it on my history I'll edit this post
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Sorry we kind of got off the subject, But for the digitizer try what Bwolf said about the connections.
Once when I was testing the power button I soldered on my old cappy I didn't get one of the ribbons all the way on (i believe it was the ribbon near the power button), and the screen flashed a few different colors.
There is at least one probably more youtube vids with pointers on how to get the cappy apart in a way that wont do damage.
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i have checked and now i am sure, that the screen is broken. I live in a state, that is not supported by paypal and and where can i buy used captivate for parts with my credit card?
The only place I can think of would be ebay, if you can find a seller who accepts things other than paypal. Or you can try craigslist.