I bought a Droid 4 off of fleabay in the hopes of resuscitating it. The phone is in perfect condition and no water damage, but when I plug it in, the charging splash screen comes up and stays at 0%. I have made sure to use a motorola charger and cable, supplying the proper amperage and left it plugged in for 8 hours in case of deep discharge. The only thing I can get into from the power&volume-+ menu is fastboot, but it says the battery is too low to do anything.
Do the Motorola factory cables work to power the Droid 4 in fastboot? Everything I have read says they don't work for the Droid 4. Does anyone have any other suggestions to bring this thing back to life? I'm wondering if the battery is just defective.
I fixed it! I couldn't find any Google results for this particular problem so hopefully this helps someone. If your Motorola Droid 4 is not charging and stuck on the battery icon with zero percent displayed, a Motorola "factory" cable will likely fix it, if the battery isn't dead. I used this thread to make a factory cable: http://www.droidforums.net/forum/droid-labs/146492-how-why-make-your-own-motorola-factory-cable.html
As soon as I plugged my frankenstein cable into my PC, the phone booted right up. I scored a Droid 4 in perfect condition for $50 on fleabay, and now it works! yay
Good job, that's awesome!
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Hiya...
Rooted/Nandroid with Bootstrapped Recovery..
I was in the car today,device charged about 40%, noticed the Bionic (for the first time) spontaneously booted. Got the boot screen icon, then black.
Went home, pulled the battery, put in the dock, nothing. Battery back in, nothing.
I think I've eliminated the battery as the cause.
Called Verizon, level 2 tech, offered to send a replacement; I opted to go the the brick and mortar store in the AM so as not to wait for 2 days.
Three questions:
Any chance that this is software related? Rooting app or Bootstrap app related? I think not, as in the dock without a battery it should at least start to light up, no?
If I'm correct, am I in jeopardy of voiding my warranty as the phone's rooted? (Not that they could tell).. ?
Anything else to try b4 swapping the phone?
Thx
Alan
arcopress said:
Any chance that this is software related? Rooting app or Bootstrap app related? I think not, as in the dock without a battery it should at least start to light up, no?
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No, MOST* smart phones cannot run on AC power alone. They require some charge on the battery in order to boot.
*added the emphasis before someone comes running in because their OG Droid/Nexus One/RAZR/POS flip phone/whatever could run off AC power alone.
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If I'm correct, am I in jeopardy of voiding my warranty as the phone's rooted? (Not that they could tell).. ?
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Rooting your device may void your warranty. Most of the time if it's a physical problem and not related to software, the warranty will still be honored. However, it'll probably be an uphill fight.
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I'd try to get ahold of another battery. I'm willing to bet that yours is defective.
I thought that the Bionic would light up in the dock with the battery removed?
alan
arcopress said:
I thought that the Bionic would light up in the dock with the battery removed?
alan
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Why would it?
The dock is just an AC charger with a stand.
Try fastboot. Rsd lite. Fxz file
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With my Droid X and a dead battery the phone would have to sit about 5 minutes and charge before it would come on at all. Wall charger, not USB via computer.
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its true that the bionic will have to charge for at least a couple minuets to turn back on. i have run mine totally dead and it will not power up untill it has charged for at least three to five plus minuets. although it will light up about three seconds after the charger is pluged in and even show the battery pic and charging. first thing you need to do is with battery back in the phone and a regular charging cable pluged in the phone other end, usb, pluged into your computer run adb or what ever you use and find out if it showes any devices at all being connected. you should be able to see this in the rds also. run rds app, then plug in phone using a rear usb port
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its true that the bionic will have to charge for at least a couple minuets to turn back on. i have run mine totally dead and it will not power up untill it has charged for at least three to five plus minuets. although it will light up about three seconds after the charger is pluged in and even show the battery pic and charging. first thing you need to do is with battery back in the phone and a regular charging cable pluged in the phone other end, usb, pluged into your computer run adb or what ever you use and find out if it showes any devices at all being connected. you should be able to see this in the rds also. run rds app, then plug in phone using a rear usb port
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yep, it's true.
I ran my bionic's battery dry the first day I had it. I was trippin out thinking it was broken or something.
After about 5-10 min of charging, I noticed it had a charging Icon.
I realized that I was upset over nothing.
I put it in the wall charger for the 10th time and noticed after about 10 minutes that it lit up with the boot screen, then the battery icon, which showed 0 percent... then it died. So it does look to be the battery. That's good news, I guess. Should I try to get a replacement from VZW, or spare the cross-exam about rooting and fork out the cash for a new battery?
If you want to spare yourself of the cross exam about root, get a new extended battery. Or if you firmly believe that the battery was defective to begin with, then stand your ground and ask that you be given a new one.
You should be fine taking it in. I would do what has been stated and just get a new battery because if it isn't that then it is a hardware issue and that isn't the roots fault anyways.
Also as a kind of FYI thing, Verizon does not do in store warranty replacements anymore(an exception being if you're within the 14day WFG period and the phone is ruled DOA). VZW, in store, does 5 day(overnight if you have insurance) shipping for free. If you want it sooner, you pay the shipping cost. Further, warranty replacement phones do not come with a new battery. They use the old phone's battery.
Where I'm going with this is always start with the battery in situations like this. That can be warrantied in store on the spot. Also make sure you're going to a corporate location.
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Like most cell phone batteries, they aren't designed to be completely drained.
I recommend charging it full, waiting tell it gets to about 10%, then charge it fully one more time.
After that charge, your battery should last you all day.
No need to waste money on an extend battery.
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Don't worry, you're not the first to have a dead phone. I had to go get a new one after three days.
Couldn't get booted past Motorola splash through any method, and an unlocked bootloader may have helped. But, in the past, and Verizon was happy to hand over a new one.
Wish I had more useful information, but I don't. So, good luck on getting your beast tamed.
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Update...
Went to the VZW store at 9... tech swapped out the battery for a new one. NO GOOD. Nothing.
Probably a good thing, as this way they couldn't void the warranty when they discovered it was rooted
Replaced the phone (17 days after purchase; had to get the mgr to approve a swap)..
Restoring apps as we speak..
Makes one wonder what's up with Motorola's QC dept.
I recently encountered a problem with my Droid 4 phone XT894 and got it stuck in AP fastboot. I left it on and hooked up to my computer trying to figure everything out but I ended up killing the battery. Well if you don't know it doesn't charge So with no way to flash my phone to get it working again to charge it and no way to do a battery swap, I Macgyver'd that mofo. I took a fully charged moto droid (the original) battery and used some breadboard pins then I opened the back of my Droid 4 and removed the battery sticker and the little rubber protector and connected the Droid battery to my droid 4 battery and flashed that mofo. It wasn't pretty but it worked in a pinch. I didn't have to ruin anything or buy anything extra.
I hope this helps some of you out there. Remember to observe polarity and you should use a multimeter to check just in case.
Hi,
I need droid razr maxx or atrix HD's battery for my Atrix HD.
My Atrix HD's battery died completely and now it not charging at all.
I checked with a electronics expert and he suggested to replace the battery.
If you have a spare battery from bricked phone then please share with me.
Or if possible if you can share it for few days on account of buying it if damaged.
Earlier tryouts,
My Atrix HD, doesn't boot at all on battery. But when connected to wall charger it shows green led then red Moto logo and then instead of showing the charging logo it reboots directly. And again goed to green led, red moto logo. This keeps happening and doesn't charge the battery at all.
Check with meters, that the battery doesn't contain any charge.
I initially though its soft bricked, so with help of other forums and fastboot menu, I reflashed all stock images. But still it not charging and going in boot loop.
Please help me if you have a spare battery.
Do the factory cable mod and charge it directly. You'll know then
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I guess its completely died
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Do the factory cable mod and charge it directly. You'll know then
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I checked the battery with meter for voltage. And it shows no voltage at all. Earlier it used to, but now no voltage at all.
Will it still charge such completely dead battery.
I will give it a try to create factory cable and try charging it.
A battery can be completely discharged. I'd try charging it with that cable and find out.
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At 0V the battery is definitely damaged. Typically 0% to 100% SOC corresponds to certain open circuit voltages (OCV) like 2.5V and 3.7V (I picked arbitrary numbers, they vary based on chemistry).
Kinda both lol
both atrix hd is more economical & have same specs & the razor hd maxx battery is a beast i would get atrix hd with razr hd battery
Perhaps you can find a extra charger (the one that you plug your battery directly in it) and try to charge the battery before putting it into the phone. Sometimes the battery shows a 'fake' death if you don't charge in for a long time.
If it can't help, go to ebay, you will find a lot of battery there.
The battery isn't removal? How are you going to stick it in a charger?
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Remove the battery first, there are like tons of video shows how to disemble the phone on youtube.
Once again it's not a regular battery man. You can't just put it in a charger.
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Battery
Batteries don't just die-care and maintenance
A. Try charging the phone for 2-3 hours
B. Buy a new battery
deeje00 said:
Once again it's not a regular battery man. You can't just put it in a charger.
Correct-once opened you'll see that there are two circular terminals to connect the tiny battery leads to-replacing battery is easy. With the EB40 battery you will have to cut the frame...
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diamond12 said:
At 0V the battery is definitely damaged. Typically 0% to 100% SOC corresponds to certain open circuit voltages (OCV) like 2.5V and 3.7V (I picked arbitrary numbers, they vary based on chemistry).
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This is correct. Cut-off voltages vary for the type of battery being used such as NiMH, Alkaline, Li-Po, Li-ion etc
And the battery itself would rarely go to a 0V state. That is because the phone automatically powers off at a point where the battery would still appear to have stored voltage, but below powering threshold.
rahuldg said:
Hi,
I need droid razr maxx or atrix HD's battery for my Atrix HD.
My Atrix HD's battery died completely and now it not charging at all.
I checked with a electronics expert and he suggested to replace the battery.
If you have a spare battery from bricked phone then please share with me.
Or if possible if you can share it for few days on account of buying it if damaged.
Earlier tryouts,
My Atrix HD, doesn't boot at all on battery. But when connected to wall charger it shows green led then red Moto logo and then instead of showing the charging logo it reboots directly. And again goed to green led, red moto logo. This keeps happening and doesn't charge the battery at all.
Check with meters, that the battery doesn't contain any charge.
I initially though its soft bricked, so with help of other forums and fastboot menu, I reflashed all stock images. But still it not charging and going in boot loop.
Please help me if you have a spare battery.
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Make sure you are using a calibrated multimeter and measure the voltage again. Does the battery appear swollen?
Also (im not sure on this), the phone should power on regardless of the battery state when connected to AC power. There is always a surplus power from wall socket which is why we can play graphic intensive games when connected to the socket and still have the battery charge up.
Seeing the state of your phone as youve mentioned, i'd suggest making sure its booting properly first. otherwise the charging circuitry might not be working. try something mundane first such as using a different micro usb charger.
cell phone batteries rarely die before youve upgraded the phone itself
I've had this phone for about two weeks now (I bought it used). When I got the phone the battery lasted pretty much all day for about 4-5 days. Then I pretty much started having charging issues. When the phone would fully die it would lock up. Sometimes when the phone had 80% battery it would lock up and stay that way for about 30-60 seconds. It would then reboot possibly lock up on boot for another 30-60 seconds, then if it did come on the battery would have an explanation mark telling you it needed to be charged. Now sometimes when you go to charge the phone it would turn on but have a question mark inside of the battery instead of where the colors are while it's charging and off.
I tried to purchase a battery locally and replace it. This battery does the same thing. The phone will boot for a bit, charge, then shut off. When I go into fastboot mode it says 'battery low'. When I got the phone and started having problems it was still stock everything, no root. Now I am running Youngunn's HoloBlur performance edition and the battery I tried to replace it with is an EB40.
The questions I really have are this.
1- When a battery is bad does it cause the '?' mark
2- Does the EB40 have to be calibrated some how, or does the ROM just pretty much know what's up
I don't really want to drop another $50 into a battery if that doesn't the issue. However in my past experience and knowledge of electronics and phones it seems to be the battery.
Thanks in advance!
have you tried a battery calibration app
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have you tried a battery calibration app
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I can't really get that far into the phone. After I get the phone booted it says low batt then goes through the power down process
Update: After reading a few threads on this site and others I've heard them all talking about using the OEM charger. I was using the USB brick I use for my Samsung tablet 5v 2a. I've just found a moto charger at my house which is 5v 550ma and the charging meter is now going up.
Thank you for searching guy.
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You're welcome man!
I took the battery that I purchased back and ordered a new one off Amazon. I put my old battery back in the phone and left it alone. After the phone charged for two hours it said it was at 25%. I booted the phone up got about five mins of use out of it and it locked again and wouldn't turn back on. When the phone isnt on and just charging, does it use the ROM to display the battery charging meter?
Here's another update.. I got the new battery in and put it in the phone. I tried to power it up just to see if it had a charge and it displayed the unlocked bootloader logo and shut back off. I then tried to plug it into, still nothing. I eventually got the green light on the top to show up. At first it was blinking, then it went solid with a very small blink. After that, still nothing.
I have tried using a 5v 500ma, 5v 1a, and 5v 2a charger and still nothing. Does anyone have any ideas?
You used the stock moto charger?
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You used the stock moto charger?
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I went to ATT and tried to get the OEM charger from them but they said they didn't have one. They were trying to use a 5v 1a usb cord with a block on the end. The only actual Motorola charger I have is what I got when I had my Atrix 4G. It's a 5v 500ma...
What is the voltage / amperage on the OEM charger?
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I went to ATT and tried to get the OEM charger from them but they said they didn't have one. They were trying to use a 5v 1a usb cord with a block on the end. The only actual Motorola charger I have is what I got when I had my Atrix 4G. It's a 5v 500ma...
What is the voltage / amperage on the OEM charger?
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The charger I got with mine is a 5.1v .750mA unit. Mine has two usb ports on it.
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The charger I got with mine is a 5.1v .750mA unit. Mine has two usb ports on it.
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Thanks man. I guess I'll head back up there in the AM and see if that helps. Although now I'm feeling like something else is wrong with the phone.
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Thanks man. I guess I'll head back up there in the AM and see if that helps. Although now I'm feeling like something else is wrong with the phone.
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I have never used the original Moto USB charger. I usually use anything that was convenient and that includes my, laptop, desktop, HTC, LG, and Samsung USB chargers.
Same here. With any of my devices for that matter. Usually the phone can dumb it down or just not charge.
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And sometimes that's fine but If it won't charge first thing to try is the factory charger to rule that out.
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After going up to the ATT store and getting them to try multiple adapters it still isn't working. I have noticed that when you plug it into the computer it recognizes the phone.. To what extent I have no idea (since I only plugged it in for a minute at the store). There are also times when you plug it in and the green light will be flashing, and other times the light will be solid.
Like I said this is straight puzzling. The phone worked fine for a few days with no issues. It seems like it got wet but there's no way it could have.
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have you tried a battery calibration app
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This is a hoax. Battery calibration is not real (Words from a google/android employee). All these apps do is maybe clean up the battery statistics so android builds new ones (which it does by itself in the long run anyways). This process has nothing to do with the actual battery/hardware.
That's all they're meant to do. Wipe the stats so it will get a correct reading.
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Did you solved it?
I had the same issue ..couldnt fine a workaround uptill now
*facepalm
Solution:
1.Take out your battery.
2.See those contacts between the terminals? Yes, they're the battery sensors. If they're not in contact with the base plates on the phone board, do something about it. I don't know what, you decide.
3.get some naked wire and create your own screw washers, for the terminals. Screw them under the screw, between the battery board and base screw holes.
4.Tighten properly.
Done.
Now, try again till the charger accepts that your battery is existent.
You are welcome.
The factory charger I got with my Moto X 2013 broke recently so I'm using a different usb cable to charge my phone. The adaptor is original.
When I see my battery, it is 58%. And when I look at it after some 15-20 mins, it is full (100%)!
What is happening? I'd be thankful if someone explained it.
Patidardhruv said:
The factory charger I got with my Moto X 2013 broke recently so I'm using a different usb cable to charge my phone. The adaptor is original.
When I see my battery, it is 58%. And when I look at it after some 15-20 mins, it is full (100%)!
What is happening? I'd be thankful if someone explained it.
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I'd guess your battery is dying. This is how dying batteries behave; the voltage goes up (and down) quickly due to the reduced capacity of the battery. Therefore the battery 'charges' very quickly, but doesn't hold the charge long.
I believe it's still possible to get Moto X batteries. I haven't had to replace mine yet… but it's not what it used to be.