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The phones over a year old now. I only picked mine up used almost half a year ago for 200 USD. The phone's price really plummeted in just over half a year didn't it? Even now it hasn't dropped further as it hit its rock bottom way back then. High end phones that are older and with less specs cost the same as this as its really unpopular. An example being the Galaxy S.
So in a way its a pretty unsuccessful phone. Reasons? Software support has been terrible, suffering from radio issues. The stock firmware was appalling for a long time. Then the announcement ICS wasn't coming which soon after you saw the price hitting rock bottom. Leading to LG to counter its previous comment and proceed with ICS. Which it probably had no plans to before the backlash. Since the update was due rather late and has since been delayed a quarter.
Hardware wise its not bad. But still outdone by S2's larger screen, double ram and better camera.
All said i'm extremely happy with my first Android especially considering what I paid. But only with the developer support providing the best solutions. If I were a stock user i'd be sorely disappointed, only feeling better for the price.
In terms of my next phone, I want a larger screen 4.7ish but not pocket busting like the note. A better camera but equal to 2X is fine. More RAM because Opera Mobile keeps shutting down when I multitask out for a second, even with an extra 48mb ram hack. Amoled would be nice but not necessary, mainly for its benefits if its sunlight legibility is good. HD is unnecessary in my opinion.
As it stands I probably won't be upgrading for awhile until the likes of the S3 gets cheap. Except its design looks unprofessional. Optimus 4X anyone? :-D They couldn't make the same mistakes again right? Right?
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I will only be upgrading to nexus devices from now on, because of this phone has made me realise I hate manufacturer skins and that I want the latest updates all the time.
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I have not decided yet what phone I am going to get. But I'm very interested in Asus padfone.
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I have not decided yet what phone I am going to get. But I'm very interested in Asus padfone.
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In order to use the pad, you need to insert your phone into it. So idk....doesn't interest me.
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In order to use the pad, you need to insert your phone into it. So idk....doesn't interest me.
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I know. But I think it's pretty cool.
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i am happy with the phone. the only complaints are the screen outdors and the camera (well not the camera itself but the plastic cover that ruins the quality).
i dont even dare thinking about a new phone but seeing how fast the market moves today's pick will be outdated in 2 weeks.
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i am happy with the phone. the only complaints are the screen outdors and the camera (well not the camera itself but the plastic cover that ruins the quality).
i dont even dare thinking about a new phone but seeing how fast the market moves today's pick will be outdated in 2 weeks.
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You can just remove that plastic cover by pressing it out from the inside
It is glued woth potatoes I think
But my camera quality looks way better now
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I like sony hayabusa, but who knows what will be in a year or so.
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Definitely a Nexus. Best update and mods
Going for a Galaxy S3 in a weeks time.
Would you guys do the same? I had this phone for over a year now
Hayabusa 12mp sounds like potential. If nexus grew a good camera, it'd be killer. The rumour of five nexuses this year is promising
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some people arent that rich to change expensive phones every 12 months.
My next device will be WITH a good battery, a SD card slot (dumb htc with their one series..almost made them perfect), a good camera (likes of SGS3 or more likely htc one x), and an ARM cortex-a15 based cpu (or krait). and quite importantly, a wolfson micro sound chip (also supported by supercurio ) i dont want screens as large as 4,7 inches though
oh, and i hope it will be a nexus...i want good updates... fuuuu LG
this would be a freaking dream phone. but i aint buying anything until the 2x gives up on me, i still really like it
So far i had 2 android phones with the optimus being my second one. I have noticed that all those "specs" do not matter. What matters is a good software. Therefore i would move to a nexus devices when my optimus gets completely destroyed or really useless. No need to keep throwing money on phones if they cannot completely replace my laptop.
I will go for a SGS2 or 3 or a Nexus.
Hopefully soon. Tired of all the probs with my LGOS
currently, my o2x running temasek kang, it give me what i want to do
still waiting for the stable cm9, then will use it about a year
my next phone maybe the galaxy s4
I think I'm buying a S3 or nexus. And what Arkara said, I agree that specs don't matter as much as the software support.
Seeing as the S2 a friend of my has, still running stock since launch and no factory resets: Smooth as hell, fast and long battery. Galaxy Nexus is also stable.
Maybe my phone has a bad chip or something like that but the FD issues are to much and the battery life is overall the same for me no matter the BB or RIL. No more Tegra for me.
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I think I'm buying a S3 or nexus. And what Arkara said, I agree that specs don't matter as much as the software support.
Seeing as the S2 a friend of my has, still running stock since launch and no factory resets: Smooth as hell, fast and long battery. Galaxy Nexus is also stable.
Maybe my phone has a bad chip or something like that but the FD issues are to much and the battery life is overall the same for me no matter the BB or RIL. No more Tegra for me.
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Nexus seems like the popular choice among us. I think specs matter still otherwise you wouldn't be after a high end phone. I personally have grown accustomed to CM's flexibility and features so i'm not really after software support. Except as we know in our 2X case it lacks drivers for us to update to.
Of course a stable good software release is important, afterall custom ROM users are a minor aspect in comparison to sales. But in the S3's case Samsung are trying to differentiate and add value through the software extras. That's great for most but if your not using it you're paying for nothing.
At least the idea behind the S2 was hardware and just the right software to make it run. This time around Samsung are making moves inspired by their biggest rival in their eyes, Apple. They like to poke fun and criticise Apple but they would prefer nothing more than to be them. The design, the marketing and the software are all in their footsteps.
What do 2X users here think of the iPhone anyway? I think it's like our polar opposite in the high end. The super expensive overrated and over hyped hardware with good closed software popular phone compared to the piss cheap higher spec phone with miserable software and success.
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This time around Samsung are making moves inspired by their biggest rival in their eyes, Apple. They like to poke fun and criticise Apple but they would prefer nothing more than to be them. The design, the marketing and the software are all in their footsteps.
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Well, they sure as hell have a long way to go as far as design goes. Pretty much all android phones do. They are butt ugly. The Optimus 2x is actually one of the prettier ones imo! The Galaxy S2 for instance is a design disaster.
I'm not a fan of the iOS, though. When I use it, on my Ipod Touch, I get the feeling that I am being treated like an idiot.
I will have a close look at the ASUS Padfone.
If it only had a 720p screen, I would have bought it.
When the Rumors about 5 new Nexus devices for Jelly Bean come true I hope ASUS makes one of the phones. I love their build quality and design. They also are the fastest when it comes to updates and patches.
I also think that the Optimus 2X is among the prettiest phones. This was the reason I picked it instead of the Galaxy SII (the price was similar at launch).
With CM7.2 UNOFFICIAL (I also use temaseks build) the phone is very good and I get a good battery life lately since I turn my phone off and back on right aufter I unplug it from the charger in the mornings. The only thing I don't like is the Battery life when I use it a lot for webbrowsing and games.
My next Phone will have a 720p display, a bigger battery and more RAM.
SD Card slot, swappable battery are things I would very much miss if they were not available on my next phone. Optimus 4X maybe, Huawei D Quad maybe, Jelly Bean Nexus possibly or the Padfone?
I´m tired of the 2x....
...because of the politics from LG.
The stects of that phone were really good, but as it was said before: Good software ist more worth than good hardware.
I think my next Phone will be the next SGS or a Nexus.
What i need:
SD-Card
huge RAM
720p Display
LTE
NFC
good Cam
Hey i may have the opportunity to swap my galaxy s iii for a Xperia T i was just wondering if anyone has made the change from S3 to T?
Or just what are your thought on the swap?
Why would you wanna swap the S3 for a XT? Doesn't make sense, the S3 is a lot more powerful. I doubt anyone would swap phones, if you have an S3, it'd be a downgrade.
Do you by any chance mean the S2? If so, then yes, swap, the T is a lot better.
Mainly because the world and his wife has an s3. Ive also flashes the polish jb update and the phone lags now. Just fancy a change. I dont tend to stick to one phone for too long lol
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There are quite a few threads of comparisons between the two. Just search.
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Mainly because the world and his wife has an s3. Ive also flashes the polish jb update and the phone lags now. Just fancy a change. I dont tend to stick to one phone for too long lol
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The world and his wife will probably have an XT before long - it is the Bond phone after all.
I was considering both the S3 and XT and went for the XT. Mainly for the camera. Having lived with it for a week or two now I'm pleased I made the choice I did. (I had the Galaxy Note before but gave it to my father as his sight is failing and he loved my big screen )
I'm glad I went for the XT - camera is good and the music player is way better than my Note was. It also feels more like proper Android as Samsung TouchWiz was OK but not really to my liking.
There are some features the XT has that I like too - like the volume and power buttons not being opposite each other, location based WiFi switching, the dedicated camera button and having the music player controls on the lock screen, etc. and I prefer the XT screen.
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Why would you wanna swap the S3 for a XT? Doesn't make sense, the S3 is a lot more powerful. I doubt anyone would swap phones, if you have an S3, it'd be a downgrade.
Do you by any chance mean the S2? If so, then yes, swap, the T is a lot better.
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LOL, really? .......... i swapped S3 for XT and never looked back.
spec. wise maybe it is more powerful, but in real life XT is better phone.
you, go on, flame me. i had both in my hands, and sgs3 for few months.
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LOL, really? .......... i swapped S3 for XT and never looked back.
spec. wise maybe it is more powerful, but in real life XT is better phone.
you, go on, flame me. i had both in my hands, and sgs3 for few months.
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That's what I thought my wife has a xperia s and it runs as smooth as it looks. My thoughts are the XT can only be better than that. Plus it looks good
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That's what I thought my wife has a xperia s and it runs as smooth as it looks. My thoughts are the XT can only be better than that. Plus it looks good
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well if you have a chance try it yourself in a shop. this kind of thread will only bring you word wars, unfortunately.
i like it more, feels better in a hand, screen is better, sony software is better, cm10 is working already better than on sgs3.
but it is your decision in the end.
and, we'll have a great kernel here, soon
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I've come from an HTC One X which again is substantially more powerful than the T but I've not looked back, and that's on stock ICS. Once I get around to unlock, root and running custom ROM I'll be even happier I'm sure.
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Mainly because the world and his wife has an s3. Ive also flashes the polish jb update and the phone lags now. Just fancy a change. I dont tend to stick to one phone for too long lol
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Well if you could try out the XT beforehand then that'd lower the risk of you regretting it.
Not here to start wars, but looking at the specs of each phone, I'd say the S3 is better, and thanks to its more powerful specs, it'd be more futureproof than the XT.
It won't be long before a lot of people have the XT and then you'd be in the same boat all over again.
My thoughts, try out the phone first, see how it feels, and if you want, swap it.
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Well if you could try out the XT beforehand then that'd lower the risk of you regretting it.
Not here to start wars, but looking at the specs of each phone, I'd say the S3 is better, and thanks to its more powerful specs, it'd be more futureproof than the XT.
It won't be long before a lot of people have the XT and then you'd be in the same boat all over again.
My thoughts, try out the phone first, see how it feels, and if you want, swap it.
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Specs say one thing. People who have used it say another.
As you say - try before you swap.
yeah not only specs matter.... that bothers me cause samsung has been putting out core wars and screen inch wars.. for samsung it must be bigger and more powerful.. but software and hardware deign Sucks!
My previous phone was the Galaxy S3. Now I have the Xperia T.
Speed feeling is same. Galaxy S3 has better battery. Xperia T is better in the hand (smallest).
My current favorite is Xperia T.
Coming from an S3 too, mainly because I prefer black, industrial designs with sharp edges as opposed to curves, flowers and the whole 'nature' inspiration. The stock ringtones on the S3 were just plain awful. The Sony software looks slicker than TouchWiz (althouth TouchWiz has a few extra unique features).
I do miss the speed of the S3's camera, but overall it's been worth the upgrade.
Depending on where you are the s3 doesn't really have much over the T.
Pretty sure here they are both 1.5ghz dual core devices. The s3 gets an extra gig of ram but, that's hardly a deal maker for most people.
AFAIK the quad core version of the s3 still lacks dev support and I'd take somewhat inferior specs with superior dev support.
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Own both and note 2 would recommend sticking with S3.
It's a more powerful beast and battery life is better.
Screen quality far superior.
The following reasons I would recommend getting T over S3:
Better quality sound but not necessarily louder
Better camera
Better design
Better hardware
Better UI
Everything else would have goto s3. Dev support is much better with S3 hardly any support for T.
Don't get T for the sake of change as you will probably regret it unless you prefer smaller screens.
T does have some good features tho and UI is much better. Touchwiz is poor.
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yeah not only specs matter.... that bothers me cause samsung has been putting out core wars and screen inch wars.. for samsung it must be bigger and more powerful.. but software and hardware deign Sucks!
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I got the same feeling because personally Sony and HTC have more intresting things about their software than samsung. I always easily get bored of samsung phones no matter how good battery life or hardware. My latest samsung phones since 2010 have been the GS1/2/3 and Wave and all were extremely boring. I have the HOX now and had the HOS before it and Sony Xperia S, Arc S and PLAY. Never found them boring with the xperia s was just battery life, camera auto focus took too long and audio volume and bass was nonsense and its the same again with the xperia T bar camera auto focus problem which is why i didnt get it. The ARC S and PLAY the hardware side is simply weak tbh and the fact they have so little ram they always struggled with games and apps. Personally the play was brought out too early they should have been bringing that out now and support it with 2gb RAM, Quad Core and something like adreno 320GPU or even if it was dual core with 1gb RAM and adreno 225 GPU.
300+ ram, single core and adreno 205 was not doing it atall. Its a shame though as i really like the xperia T and was going to have it as my second phone but the audio and battery life problem is a big issue.
I did that. I gave my S3 to my son an bought the Xperia T.
I can not tel you what is the better Phone. The T feels faster but thats a feeling. The browser on the S3 was faster. I am a hughe Samsung fan but a bigger Sony fan.
I can defo say the browser speed on the s3 was a flyer but I am not missing that atall, as my HOX is fast enough.
My mother and step dad, joined contracts in my mums name have played with the s3 and the XT and are not music people so they prefer the XT battery life wont be and issue either for them as they are not the kind of people that will be browsing internet alot, playing music, watching videos etc and on t mobile the XT is a bit cheaper aswell and the prefer the look and feel of the XT especially as its a bit smaller.
hi everybody please excuse muy english, but i need a little help, im a happy owner of a razr i, but a friend of mine offers me his galaxy nexus for my razr i... the question is: should i accept? which one is more powerful for gaming? as the razr its a single core and it isnt optimized as the nexus... which will be obsolete first? again excuse my poor english and thank you
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hi everybody please excuse muy english, but i need a little help, im a happy owner of a razr i, but a friend of mine offers me his galaxy nexus for my razr i... the question is: should i accept? which one is more powerful for gaming? as the razr its a single core and it isnt optimized as the nexus... which will be obsolete first? again excuse my poor english and thank you
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What were the reasons you wanted the razr i for and not basically ANY other phone on the market? When i got mine, it was priced 400€, Galaxy S3 was priced ~445€ (before JB, i thought i should have gotten that, now i'm quite happy with my phone again)
Galaxy Nexus' screen is a lot bigger than the razr i's. Compatibility is near 100% while i'm sometimes frustrated about apps not working. The razr i has a 2ghz singlecore with hyper threading, The Nexus is all about pure android while the moto is still way too much customized (i really hate the stock launcher).
Your last question which really hurts to answer is obvious, the razr i will be long forgotten before the galaxy nexus. The nexus will receive Android updates endlessly while i think that Jelly Bean could be the last android version the razr i receives. Also i really HOPE the x86 structure will become bigger in android .. I am afraid of x86 just vanishing, leaving all the razr i users with uncompatible phones for new apps.
so... should i accept?? (thank hoy very much!)
Also the battery in razr i is waaaay better...and I forgot the camera of course..
Old samsung nexus is really only better in pure android updates....
Ask him for new nexus 4...that would be different story ))...
I would keep razr i without any hesitation if I were you....
And intel processors in phones will not go away any time soon if ever....
Jelly bean is perfect, 4.2 is coming after that, better battery, camera, speedier, much smaller but still big screen...
But regarding games?... not sure as I do not play thay much... but if you are happy with all the games you throw at razr i now and they all are compatible then you will be fine in the future...
But let the gamers talk...
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For me Nexus4 was ruled out for poor battery life. So far I'm very pleased with RAZR i
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1, 'nexus endlessly updating' of Nexus devices, as stated above: I had the Nexus One, Nexus S; both of them were strict on the 18 month update diet of Google.. So, I would not expect ANY nexus to get official Google updates longer than -lets say- 2 years (also due to hardware restrictions).
2, Moto hardware, and Intel; as Google has bought Moto mobile, the new Nexus (X) may have any hardware in it -but it will be Moto heritage.. Just a guess, but: maybe our Razr i is the ancestor of the coming NX?
3, and as for speed/ gaming: Razr i is just like greased salmon, on the phone, with gaming; I would never trade it for any phone else right now!
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1, 'nexus endlessly updating' of Nexus devices, as stated above: I had the Nexus One, Nexus S; both of them were strict on the 18 month update diet of Google.. So, I would not expect ANY nexus to get official Google updates longer than -lets say- 2 years (also due to hardware restrictions).
2, Moto hardware, and Intel; as Google has bought Moto mobile, the new Nexus (X) may have any hardware in it -but it will be Moto heritage.. Just a guess, but: maybe our Razr i is the ancestor of the coming NX?
3, and as for speed/ gaming: Razr i is just like greased salmon, on the phone, with gaming; I would never trade it for any phone else right now!
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Agree...
@sengstaken: Galaxy Nexus. Nexus 4 we didn't talk about.
@TS Well, if you want Ubuntu Phone as soon as it comes out then go ahead and accept the Galaxy Nexus. If you don't want that than keep the Razr i, it's waaaay better.
thanks everyone ... i'll keep my phone then, i hope its processor wont be forggoten
My wife has Galaxy Nexus, so I can say few words about my xt890 vs her Nexus.
1. Display. I like Nexus's display more because of higher res. and bigger size (it's better for gaming and book reading) but the phone is also bigger so for everyday use I prefer size of my xt890...
2. Performance. Comparing to xt890, Nexus looks like a phone from previous century (the fact that Nexus runs JB vs ICS in my xt890 does not help to much to Nexus). Everything is much faster and smoother on Moto - internet, apps loading, gaming, swiping...
Antutu: 6700 on Nexus, 13800 on xt890, games 30-40% faster on Moto (despite having the same GPU SGX540)
3. Battery life. With similar usage Nexus doesn't get through one day, mine leaves about 1.5-2 days.
Some thought about performance - xt890 has 5x memory speed of Nexus and much higher mem speed then any other phone in the market (including quad core models). I guess this is the reason why atom feels much snappier and faster then other cpus. In real life apps are hardly using more then one core but the memory speed can make difference - web page loading, apps opening, apps switching, games - all this need faster memory speed more then additional cores.
The RAZR I is the perfect phone for me right now and I have already have a lot of videos showing how good the RAZR i is on ICS..
And now with jb its just magnificent ...
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The RAZR I is the perfect phone for me right now and I have already have a lot of videos showing how good the RAZR i is on ICS..
And now with jb its just magnificent ...
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i completely agree..!
I was an Apple-Fan for the last !!10!! years and had all iPhone Models.. between this iphone models i switched sometimes to Android-Phones but always switched again back to the iPhone.. until RAZRi.. This Phone is perfect, because it is not as big as all the other "super-phones" N4, SG3 etc., it is manufactured perfectly (i hate the plastic feeling at e.x. SG3), big screen but still usable with one hand (very important for me), its totally fast and i only need to charge it every 2nd day... all my other smartphones need to charge every day...
believe me, i would not change it with an iphone5 (my wife has one), although i know RAZR costs half of the i5...
greets
Thats right, i regularly use an Galaxy s3 and is a tad slower than this razr i, its amazing!
More amazing than that is a few days i started using setcpu and right now the max cpu speed i allow its 1.2mhz and the speed is the same! (i havent tried any games yet, just normal use and browsing ) that confirms what MotoXT890 said about the razr i memory speed being much faster than normal ( i didn't know that ) and apparently thats what makes it fast. You really just need more cores for heavy games, other than that they'r useless
i hope the intel processor gets more support soon... even the famous game Candy crush doesnt work...
excuse my english
People if you are considering to buy a lg optimus 4x hd and came here to read whats bad or good about it please DONT
Yes this is because most people coming here are to complain ( speaking from my experience) so you will get demotivated a lot even though this phone is great ( once again in my opinion)
Even though our camera is not the best nor is out optimus UI despite those small things its a great phone for a very good price
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I agree you cm camera is actually not so bad in good light (low light it sucks as much as the normal). Optimus UI is just a matter of taste I like it. For now it has one of the best performance/price relation I think. Maybe its not the bestto play hardcore games as it gets hotbut with underclocking your cpu and play games its very good.I thinkthe simple mobile games are way better than the FPS. just my opinion
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flash CM 10.1 and your golden. Pretty much a Nexus 4, cept no screen space is wasted for the soft keys.:good:
In Poland u can buy new 4X for 220€, it's cheaper than SGS2!
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In Poland u can buy new 4X for 220€, it's cheaper than SGS2!
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LOL, in at lot of places in UK the S2 actually costs more than the S3!!! Thought this was gonna be another complaining thread but its not! Not sure its necessary though, people can read and make up their own mind
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Have to agree. I've got an HOX but I got my wife the 4x and I must say I am impressed. For its price I do belive it's unbeatable.
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With a proper stable kernel our phones will be truly one of the best phones i beleave
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You finaly can have TV out!
Didnt we already have that with stock
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flash CM 10.1 and your golden. Pretty much a Nexus 4, cept no screen space is wasted for the soft keys.:good:
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Dream on...
Arent Nexi budget phones? In all other places where there is no Google Play, they are expensive and when everybody and their mom suggests getting one, it gets annoying really fast.
Here is the thing with Nexus phones. The only good thing about them is Google updates. Stock android experience and so on are all covered by custom roms.
And as for this thread. If you have money, dont bother with the 4X HD. There are better phones out there with better stock roms and quality I believe.
O4X was my first android phone. And i love it.
But i spent to much time waiting on JB on unlock bootloader on rom, everything... so i sell it =(
I changed for SG3 - and those two can not be compared. On SG3 battery for me stands for full 2 days! on OX4 max 12h. Camera is much much better on SG3 - and those are most important things for me on phone.
O4X is cheap nice hardware... but bad support bad battery ( strange wakelocks) is downsides.
And yes... dust under screen... i hated so much LG about that!
Also using this opportunity to say bye to all O4X lovers and community. Se ya i another thread
My Galaxy S3 Battery Life Sucks Please Help! 15% After Only 7 Hours > from sg3 user, so many trolls on the net, Im happy with my o4x and happy I didnt pay twice as much for a phone just to play a couple of games better, now there is unlocked bootloader wonder why such animosity or is it jealousy !
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O4X was my first android phone. And i love it.
But i spent to much time waiting on JB on unlock bootloader on rom, everything... so i sell it =(
I changed for SG3 - and those two can not be compared. On SG3 battery for me stands for full 2 days! on OX4 max 12h. Camera is much much better on SG3 - and those are most important things for me on phone.
O4X is cheap nice hardware... but bad support bad battery ( strange wakelocks) is downsides.
And yes... dust under screen... i hated so much LG about that!
Also using this opportunity to say bye to all O4X lovers and community. Se ya i another thread
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I never sell my phones. I have a ton of it (including Nokia 1610 from 1996). I've made mistake with Optimus 4X HD, but it's my fault. In the other hand, we don't have Android 5.0 Key Lime Pie or decent phones with powerful chips (Tegra 4, Snapdragon 800), so I will wait for next flagship. My first Android is still working, HTC Hero from 2009 summer.
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I never sell my phones. I have a ton of it (including Nokia 1610 from 1996). I've made mistake with Optimus 4X HD, but it's my fault. In the other hand, we don't have Android 5.0 Key Lime Pie or decent phones with powerful chips (Tegra 4, Snapdragon 800), so I will wait for next flagship. My first Android is still working, HTC Hero from 2009 summer.
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After nvidias fail with tegra 2&3, you would really risk tegra 4? I accidently left my phone locked to single core only yesterday, and was playing a few heavy games. There was barely any difference. The CPU is insanely powerful, but the GPU is a total POS
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After nvidias fail with tegra 2&3, you would really risk tegra 4? I accidently left my phone locked to single core only yesterday, and was playing a few heavy games. There was barely any difference. The CPU is insanely powerful, but the GPU is a total POS
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nVidias fail with Tegra 2 and 3? The support from manufacturers wasn't exactly massive but they were great chips.
I'd say the Optimus 2x had better performance when it was running a custom ROM, I ran Nova HD ROM it was overclockable and ran really well.
I havent taken the plunge with my 4X rooting and custom ROMs yet, I'm waiting for the warranty to run out first!!
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nVidias fail with Tegra 2 and 3? The support from manufacturers wasn't exactly massive but they were great chips.
I'd say the Optimus 2x had better performance when it was running a custom ROM, I ran Nova HD ROM it was overclockable and ran really well.
I havent taken the plunge with my 4X rooting and custom ROMs yet, I'm waiting for the warranty to run out first!!
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Well in terms of general use and multitasking the quad core is incredible, but considering I just bought a cheap dual core powervr 531 tablet and it runs some games better there's deffo something wrong. I do believe however that game devs are partly to blame, but its enough to make me steer clear
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Hey guys... Just wondering how is the call quality with your phone?... Do you get drop outs?... Is the signal reception good and consistent? Thanks
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I don't make many calls with my phone, but so far the call quality has been fine.
Seriously, I gotta hand it to people who buy quad core phones for games because phones are the worst possible medium where you would want to play a game. If you wanna play games, go get a tablet or a desktop PC with reasonable cooling. A decent PC that can run EVERY phone game costs around 450 euro. Thats cheaper than a Note2 and litterally every 2013 high priced phone.
The reason why this phone cant play games as "Smooth" as you people would want is because of throttling and bad optimization. The heat that is generated while playing a game is ridiculous and the CPU+GPU overheat because there is no cooling happeing there.
The only, and I mean, the only reason why the S3 runs cooler is because of better throttling, not because it has "Efficient" internals.
There are many devices out there that do the "Gamiing" part better but you would be paying 80- 100 Euros more for just getting a "Better" phone for gaming.
When somebody comes around says "Oh, the S3 is so much better"and LG has dust underscreen. May I remind you that the S3 up until January this year had a brickbug +restarting bug and the restarting bug has NOT been fixed. The brickbug was a internal memory error.The restarting bug seems to happen at random with people with the "Insane" chip. I was in a dilemma when I bought this phone. Do I wanna risk buying an S3 and after 6 months it could become useless? I said no.
If you are happy to invest +350 to +400 euro for a phone just because you find the beauty problems of this phone bad then for "Insert your favorite vendor"s sake do so.
I am happy to have a functional phone that when compared with the price of other phones, just blows them out of the water. Phones like the
S2, Sony Xperia S,T,SP, Optimus G, Nexus 4(It costs around 400 euro where I live, compared to 280 euro with this phone.) and so on and so forth.
Hey, I challenge anybody to offer an alternative to this phone with a price range of :
300-350 euro
4.7 Coll HD or FULL HD IPS screen
Removable battery
MicroSD slot
16GB internal storage
The only alternative is the Huawei G615 but that thing is 4.5 coll, has only 8 GB internal storage and does not seem to have CM support.
guys i don't know what to do i've just seen the live presentation of moto g... and damn, 199usd for a quadcore s400 with 16gb...
should i have to wait for the (maybe) coming update, or is it better to sell the razr i for 250$ and get this new phone?
i know the lack of camera and body materials, or memory expandibility (actually have a 8gb microsd, so that's not a problem for me...)
so, please, tell me all of your opinion... with pros and cons in your opinion. thanks in advance!
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guys i don't know what to do i've just seen the live presentation of moto g... and damn, 199usd for a quadcore s400 with 16gb...
should i have to wait for the (maybe) coming update, or is it better to sell the razr i for 250$ and get this new phone?
i know the lack of camera and body materials, or memory expandibility (actually have a 8gb microsd, so that's not a problem for me...)
so, please, tell me all of your opinion... with pros and cons in your opinion. thanks in advance!
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g is bigger so razr i is my choice.
I still prefer my Razr I, G doesn't have NFC and I love my Intel CPU
Also the I is more edge2edge than the G and I like the material of the I
Razr i won't get kitkat, in my honest opinion. If that's the only thing keeping you from selling, I would go ahead and sell
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well... i also love the premium materials... and the compact size, but, i really would like to have 4.4 for the optimizations it brings... and the lack of custom roms cause of x86 arch... i'm praying for seeing that "it'll get 4.4 soon" on the official motorola page
AFAIK the camera is better on Razr over that of the G and whilst an update to the phone would be nice I'm ok with the features it has for what I bought it for. Overall the razr i is still a great phone for me and I would buy it over the G version.
You should take a closer look to their specs. Bear in mind that I don't know how much Razr i costs in your country new or used...
Razr i / Moto G
CPU - Intel Atom Z2480 x86 2Ghz x1 (HyperThreading) / Qualcomm Snapdragon 400 1,2Ghz x4
GPU - Power VR SGX540 @ 400Mhz 6.2GFLOPS / Adreno 305 19.2GFLOPS
RAM - 1GB LPDDR2 @ 800Mhz / 1GB LPDDR2 @ 533Mhz (supposed)
ROM - 8GB / 8GB or 16GB
Battery - 2000mAh / 2070mAh
System - Android on x86 4.0.4 update to 4.1.2 / Android on ARM 4.3
Screen - 4.3" SuperAMOLED 540x960 256ppi GG2 / 4.5" LCD GorillaGlass3 720x1280 329ppi
Camera - 8mpx autofocus LED flash 1080p 30fps video / 5mpx autofocus LED flash 720p 30fps video
SecCam - 0.3mpx 640x480 30fps video / 1.3mpx unknown video recording resolution
Connect - NFC, Bluetooth 4.0, WiFi N, HSPA+, GPS / Bluetooth 4.0, WiFi N, GPS, HSPA+
SIze - H>122.43mm W>60.71mm D>8.38mm - 126 g / H>129.9mm W>65.9mm D>11.6 mm - 143 g
As you may see here, the Razr i is quite smaller and also features a better display, with a lower resolution. Whether this resolution changes anything or not is down to the use you will give to your phone. The Razr i should have a marginally better battery life due to the type of screen, lower resolution and same battery capacity. Also the Razr has better connectivity overall, supporting NFC and has a marginally better camera, that will appeal to some people. The last advantage for the Razr is the memory bandwith, being an x86 device with an Atom processor, I have seen that the ram speed is about 25% faster than the GS3 which had quite a good RAM. However, the Moto G wins hands down on the CPU and GPU departure. In contrast, it has to power up quite a few more pixels and this narrows down the advantage. You may then choose your phone based on this, and on your likings/kind of usage obviously.
1. Is micro SD support a must?
2. Do you care for Kitkat? Or lots of custom rom options? (pretty sure the G will get plenty of them)
3. Is nfc a big deal for you?
4. Do you care about screen resolution?
I'm deciding between these two phones now as well, and this was the best I could come up with for deciding. If you can answer them you'll know which one you want. Good luck!
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1. Is micro SD support a must?
2. Do you care for Kitkat? Or lots of custom rom options? (pretty sure the G will get plenty of them)
3. Is nfc a big deal for you?
4. Do you care about screen resolution?
I'm deciding between these two phones now as well, and this was the best I could come up with for deciding. If you can answer them you'll know which one you want. Good luck!
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I would add these:
5. Do you need more gaming performance? (buy the G)
6. Do you want a thinner device? (buy the Razr i)
7. Do you want a phone mid-high end design or a low-mid end(moto G)?
I should still advice you that if you are not are frequent user of demanding games, reading, or cpu intensive tasks on android, you will be more than satisfied with the Razr i. If you are more of a power user and dont care much about the features you should buy the Moto G. If you don't like any of the two buy the Nexus 5...
Thanks to all of you guys. I think to take with me the RAZR for the premium feels it gives to me even if less powerful. The only thing I could regret is the fact it will not get Kk.. but. I hope in you modders
Only advantage RazrI has to MotoG is quality and size, screen quality, camera, speaker should be equal, performance, devs and moto support should be better on MotoG.
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I have the same dilemma, I have a Moto G but not used yet as I'm waiting for a screen protector. I was about to get a Razr I but for £50 cheaper the Moto G made more sense. The Razr I i still £150 at the moment, maybe if it drops a little lower I will take one.
EDIT: I bought both a Moto G 8Gb and a Razr I, reason being my sister also wanted a new phone so whichever I didn't want she would take. The issue with Three stores in the UK is that the phone is locked into some protective casing in the shop so you can't hold them, and they don't allow opening one up unless you want to buy it, so it's difficult to compare them in the shops.
However, as soon as you hold both in your hand the Razr I has a much more premium feel, it's probably the nicest phone I have ever handled (and that includes an iPhone 5). IMO the iPhone 5 is a perfect size and weight and this is pretty much the same but without IOS (which is a benefit!).
I don't see much difference in the screen at all in terms of size and quality. The Razr I feels quicker though as you scroll through menus and open up apps etc. Plus the SD card slot is a nice addition (although not one of my requirements).
Is it worth an extra £50/33% premium on top of the Moto G? I guess that depends on what you will use it for. If you're not going to use much storage and are a light user then the Moto G is the one to go for, especially with a guaranteed 4.4 update to Android. If you can spend the extra then get the Razr I it's a bargain for what it is.
I have both at the moment and believe me it's a tough question for sure. I must say one handed use of RAZR i is a big plus.
Razr I advantages :
Better camera
Micro-sd support up to 64gb
One handed use
Premium quality
Better and faster internet experience
Moto G advantages
Better display
Better battery ( just a little )
Better front cam
Current Android version, update to Lollipop
Better gaming experience
I will wait for 4.4.2 on RAZR i to make a better judgement. btw moto g gets 17500 while razr i gets 17000 antutu points. ( the lower resolution on razr i helps to its inferiror gpu compared to Adreno 305 with 720p on moto g )