guys i don't know what to do i've just seen the live presentation of moto g... and damn, 199usd for a quadcore s400 with 16gb...
should i have to wait for the (maybe) coming update, or is it better to sell the razr i for 250$ and get this new phone?
i know the lack of camera and body materials, or memory expandibility (actually have a 8gb microsd, so that's not a problem for me...)
so, please, tell me all of your opinion... with pros and cons in your opinion. thanks in advance!
yostyle said:
guys i don't know what to do i've just seen the live presentation of moto g... and damn, 199usd for a quadcore s400 with 16gb...
should i have to wait for the (maybe) coming update, or is it better to sell the razr i for 250$ and get this new phone?
i know the lack of camera and body materials, or memory expandibility (actually have a 8gb microsd, so that's not a problem for me...)
so, please, tell me all of your opinion... with pros and cons in your opinion. thanks in advance!
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g is bigger so razr i is my choice.
I still prefer my Razr I, G doesn't have NFC and I love my Intel CPU
Also the I is more edge2edge than the G and I like the material of the I
Razr i won't get kitkat, in my honest opinion. If that's the only thing keeping you from selling, I would go ahead and sell
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well... i also love the premium materials... and the compact size, but, i really would like to have 4.4 for the optimizations it brings... and the lack of custom roms cause of x86 arch... i'm praying for seeing that "it'll get 4.4 soon" on the official motorola page
AFAIK the camera is better on Razr over that of the G and whilst an update to the phone would be nice I'm ok with the features it has for what I bought it for. Overall the razr i is still a great phone for me and I would buy it over the G version.
You should take a closer look to their specs. Bear in mind that I don't know how much Razr i costs in your country new or used...
Razr i / Moto G
CPU - Intel Atom Z2480 x86 2Ghz x1 (HyperThreading) / Qualcomm Snapdragon 400 1,2Ghz x4
GPU - Power VR SGX540 @ 400Mhz 6.2GFLOPS / Adreno 305 19.2GFLOPS
RAM - 1GB LPDDR2 @ 800Mhz / 1GB LPDDR2 @ 533Mhz (supposed)
ROM - 8GB / 8GB or 16GB
Battery - 2000mAh / 2070mAh
System - Android on x86 4.0.4 update to 4.1.2 / Android on ARM 4.3
Screen - 4.3" SuperAMOLED 540x960 256ppi GG2 / 4.5" LCD GorillaGlass3 720x1280 329ppi
Camera - 8mpx autofocus LED flash 1080p 30fps video / 5mpx autofocus LED flash 720p 30fps video
SecCam - 0.3mpx 640x480 30fps video / 1.3mpx unknown video recording resolution
Connect - NFC, Bluetooth 4.0, WiFi N, HSPA+, GPS / Bluetooth 4.0, WiFi N, GPS, HSPA+
SIze - H>122.43mm W>60.71mm D>8.38mm - 126 g / H>129.9mm W>65.9mm D>11.6 mm - 143 g
As you may see here, the Razr i is quite smaller and also features a better display, with a lower resolution. Whether this resolution changes anything or not is down to the use you will give to your phone. The Razr i should have a marginally better battery life due to the type of screen, lower resolution and same battery capacity. Also the Razr has better connectivity overall, supporting NFC and has a marginally better camera, that will appeal to some people. The last advantage for the Razr is the memory bandwith, being an x86 device with an Atom processor, I have seen that the ram speed is about 25% faster than the GS3 which had quite a good RAM. However, the Moto G wins hands down on the CPU and GPU departure. In contrast, it has to power up quite a few more pixels and this narrows down the advantage. You may then choose your phone based on this, and on your likings/kind of usage obviously.
1. Is micro SD support a must?
2. Do you care for Kitkat? Or lots of custom rom options? (pretty sure the G will get plenty of them)
3. Is nfc a big deal for you?
4. Do you care about screen resolution?
I'm deciding between these two phones now as well, and this was the best I could come up with for deciding. If you can answer them you'll know which one you want. Good luck!
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clickstop said:
1. Is micro SD support a must?
2. Do you care for Kitkat? Or lots of custom rom options? (pretty sure the G will get plenty of them)
3. Is nfc a big deal for you?
4. Do you care about screen resolution?
I'm deciding between these two phones now as well, and this was the best I could come up with for deciding. If you can answer them you'll know which one you want. Good luck!
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I would add these:
5. Do you need more gaming performance? (buy the G)
6. Do you want a thinner device? (buy the Razr i)
7. Do you want a phone mid-high end design or a low-mid end(moto G)?
I should still advice you that if you are not are frequent user of demanding games, reading, or cpu intensive tasks on android, you will be more than satisfied with the Razr i. If you are more of a power user and dont care much about the features you should buy the Moto G. If you don't like any of the two buy the Nexus 5...
Thanks to all of you guys. I think to take with me the RAZR for the premium feels it gives to me even if less powerful. The only thing I could regret is the fact it will not get Kk.. but. I hope in you modders
Only advantage RazrI has to MotoG is quality and size, screen quality, camera, speaker should be equal, performance, devs and moto support should be better on MotoG.
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I have the same dilemma, I have a Moto G but not used yet as I'm waiting for a screen protector. I was about to get a Razr I but for £50 cheaper the Moto G made more sense. The Razr I i still £150 at the moment, maybe if it drops a little lower I will take one.
EDIT: I bought both a Moto G 8Gb and a Razr I, reason being my sister also wanted a new phone so whichever I didn't want she would take. The issue with Three stores in the UK is that the phone is locked into some protective casing in the shop so you can't hold them, and they don't allow opening one up unless you want to buy it, so it's difficult to compare them in the shops.
However, as soon as you hold both in your hand the Razr I has a much more premium feel, it's probably the nicest phone I have ever handled (and that includes an iPhone 5). IMO the iPhone 5 is a perfect size and weight and this is pretty much the same but without IOS (which is a benefit!).
I don't see much difference in the screen at all in terms of size and quality. The Razr I feels quicker though as you scroll through menus and open up apps etc. Plus the SD card slot is a nice addition (although not one of my requirements).
Is it worth an extra £50/33% premium on top of the Moto G? I guess that depends on what you will use it for. If you're not going to use much storage and are a light user then the Moto G is the one to go for, especially with a guaranteed 4.4 update to Android. If you can spend the extra then get the Razr I it's a bargain for what it is.
I have both at the moment and believe me it's a tough question for sure. I must say one handed use of RAZR i is a big plus.
Razr I advantages :
Better camera
Micro-sd support up to 64gb
One handed use
Premium quality
Better and faster internet experience
Moto G advantages
Better display
Better battery ( just a little )
Better front cam
Current Android version, update to Lollipop
Better gaming experience
I will wait for 4.4.2 on RAZR i to make a better judgement. btw moto g gets 17500 while razr i gets 17000 antutu points. ( the lower resolution on razr i helps to its inferiror gpu compared to Adreno 305 with 720p on moto g )
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The million dollar question... Which phone is better and why?
Right now I have the chance to buy the Moto G. I don't know how much difference make a 1.5 dual core VS a 1.2 quad core because the GPU also takes part on this. I haven't had the chance to test the phone, so I don't know. Also the battery is better on the G, and that is important to me.
So.. What do you think?
I just got the Moto G but can't use it until I get it unlocked. Here's what I see as the pros and cons:
Moto G pros:
- quad core at 1.2 will be faster than 1.4 dual core when running an optimized ROM.
- nice IPS screen.
- official 4.3 support and 4.4 in the near future.
- cheap with no contract.
- unlock for bootloader direct from Motorola.
Moto G cons:
- only 8 GB or 16 GB of storage, but not all of it is available for user storage.
- no micro SD slot.
- no charger included in the box.
- only 8 GB carrier locked version is available in Canada.
- phone is only sold with a carrier lock, even when bought without a contract in Canada.
Atrix HD pros:
- beautiful screen and build quality
- expandable storage.
- great battery life with the right rom.
- works on all US and Canadian carriers;
- lots of custom ROMs.
Atrix HD cons:
- non-removable battery.
- no official ROMs after 4.1.2 in Canada.
audit13 said:
Atrix HD cons:
- non-removable battery.
- no official ROMs after 4.1.2 in Canada.
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Our Atrix HD's battery is easy enough to remove and replace if necessary, there are plenty of tutorials in the forums and youtube that show you how to do it with ease.
Dr. Orange said:
Our Atrix HD's battery is easy enough to remove and replace if necessary, there are plenty of tutorials in the forums and youtube that show you how to do it with ease.
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Thanks for the information. My battery is working perfectly with holo but I am sure it will eventually need replacement.
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Hi all!!
A local website is offering Atrix HD MB886 and Moto G (16GB) for exactly the same price here. Both are BNIB with 7 days return policy and 2 years warranty.
So I am really confused which one to buy. If any of you have tested or bought both.. how do they compare and which one would you recommend?
For me.
Moto G +ve's:
NEW!
16GB internal mem
KK 4.4.2 out of box
great battery
IPS LCD
changeable covers
FM radio
USB host
GLONASS
Moto G -ve's:
No 4G (LTE)
only 5MP cam
battery is fixed
NO SD card
AHD +ve's:
4G LTE (future proof) - even though we don't have this yet but the contracts are sold and will get 4G rolling out next year in Pakistan
8MP cam
FHD video recording
HDMI
SD card (again.. future proof)
replaceable batt (so can get a bigger one)
AHD -ve's:
No GLONASS
TFT LCD (not IPS)
smaller batt
no FM radio (can i use an app like spirit FM?)
no USB host??? (does it have this?)
The place where I'm really really confused is the CPU/GPU.
How does MSM8960 (dual core Krait) stack up against the quad core MSM8226????
How much of a difference is there between Adreno 305 and Adreno 225?? (i'm a bit of a mobile gamer )
Those of you who have experience with these. How do they compare?? I heard people who got Moto G said they felt its faster than AHD ever performed. But I guess that could be down to stock Android on Moto G outperforming MotoBlur... or is the hardware on Moto G really better??
Which has the better and more durable hardware?
Many thanks in advance... Cheers!!
P.s. I have an HTC Desire Z with 4.4.2 at the moment.. so any of these will be a step up for me.. but I want the best of these as they fall exactly within my budget.
theenlightened1 said:
Hi all!!
A local website is offering Atrix HD MB886 and Moto G (16GB) for exactly the same price here. Both are BNIB with 7 days return policy and 2 years warranty.
So I am really confused which one to buy. If any of you have tested or bought both.. how do they compare and which one would you recommend?
For me.
Moto G +ve's:
NEW!
16GB internal mem
KK 4.4.2 out of box
great battery
IPS LCD
changeable covers
FM radio
USB host
GLONASS
Moto G -ve's:
No 4G (LTE)
only 5MP cam
battery is fixed
NO SD card
AHD +ve's:
4G LTE (future proof) - even though we don't have this yet but the contracts are sold and will get 4G rolling out next year in Pakistan
8MP cam
FHD video recording
HDMI
SD card (again.. future proof)
replaceable batt (so can get a bigger one)
AHD -ve's:
No GLONASS
TFT LCD (not IPS)
smaller batt
no FM radio (can i use an app like spirit FM?)
no USB host??? (does it have this?)
The place where I'm really really confused is the CPU/GPU.
How does MSM8960 (dual core Krait) stack up against the quad core MSM8226????
How much of a difference is there between Adreno 305 and Adreno 225?? (i'm a bit of a mobile gamer )
Those of you who have experience with these. How do they compare?? I heard people who got Moto G said they felt its faster than AHD ever performed. But I guess that could be down to stock Android on Moto G outperforming MotoBlur... or is the hardware on Moto G really better??
Which has the better and more durable hardware?
Many thanks in advance... Cheers!!
P.s. I have an HTC Desire Z with 4.4.2 at the moment.. so any of these will be a step up for me.. but I want the best of these as they fall exactly within my budget.
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Atrix HD Screen is one of the best I have ever seen.
I can play games without lag on atrix HD.
What do you mean by GLONASS?
Yes I miss FM Radio.
We have hdmi along with usb.
Best part is the build quality. I have dropped it a hundred times but still its functional, If it would have been a samsung then I might have lost many phones till day.
swapnil0545 said:
Atrix HD Screen is one of the best I have ever seen.
I can play games without lag on atrix HD.
What do you mean by GLONASS?
Yes I miss FM Radio.
We have hdmi along with usb.
Best part is the build quality. I have dropped it a hundred times but still its functional, If it would have been a samsung then I might have lost many phones till day.
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Thanks for the fast reply...
GLONASS is Russia's satellite nav system like GPS. Having GLONASS especially in EU and Asia is a huge advantage as it's more accurate and Moto G has both so combined you get pin-point accuracy.
Glad to read about the build quality.
Still.. how does it stack up against Moto G's CPU/GPU??
4G is not a biggie for me but its better to have it than not. Also 16GB is probably okay for me as I have 8GB now but you never know)))
You said it has USB.. does it have USB hosting? (the feature where you can connect other USB devices to the phone to transfer data directly like using pen drive with your computer)
Thanks again!!
EDIT: Ok... so I just read that you can make Atrix a USB host using a software fix and it does support GLONASS.. also read (on qualcomm's site) that Adreno 305 offer's upto 50% faster graphics than Adreno 220 (which I'm guessing is closer to Adreno 225 on Moto G).. so as a gamer I'm also decided on AHD.. plus there are rumours of AHD getting ota KK 4.4.2 soon... just need confirmation of how the dual core CPU performs vs Moto G's quad core... and I'll just get one
theenlightened1 said:
Thanks for the fast reply...
GLONASS is Russia's satellite nav system like GPS. Having GLONASS especially in EU and Asia is a huge advantage as it's more accurate and Moto G has both so combined you get pin-point accuracy.
Glad to read about the build quality.
Still.. how does it stack up against Moto G's CPU/GPU??
4G is not a biggie for me but its better to have it than not. Also 16GB is probably okay for me as I have 8GB now but you never know)))
You said it has USB.. does it have USB hosting? (the feature where you can connect other USB devices to the phone to transfer data directly like using pen drive with your computer)
Thanks again!!
EDIT: Ok... so I just read that you can make Atrix a USB host using a software fix and it does support GLONASS.. also read (on qualcomm's site) that Adreno 305 offer's upto 50% faster graphics than Adreno 220 (which I'm guessing is closer to Adreno 225 on Moto G).. so as a gamer I'm also decided on AHD.. plus there are rumours of AHD getting ota KK 4.4.2 soon... just need confirmation of how the dual core CPU performs vs Moto G's quad core... and I'll just get one
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I have usb OTG (or host) out of the box with cyanogenmod 11, at least i've tried a wireless keyboard and mice. Haven't tried it with stock roms.
The HDMI is pretty nice too 1280x720, connect to your tv, plug some controller via USB OTG and you got mobile gaming rig lol. 16GB (with maybe 12 available to user?) i find that to be not quite enough at all, specially for me that i use google play music and cache my music on the external sd.
Check out the battery mod thread, super easy not too expensive and you'll get very nice battery life (2+ days on with moderate usage and no battery eating ****ty apps).
AHD SHOULD be getting official KK according to "official" sources, tho not too soon maybe.
Oh and the AHD camera is crap tho, only way to get decent pics is plain daylight or very bright ilumination during the night.
Shouldn't there be cheaper used AHDs out there by now? Could probably get a cheap used AHD in good condition, put CM11 on it, do the battery mod and boom!
Where can I find a link for Glonass apk?
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Where can I find a link for Glonass apk?
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I don't think you need an apk to turn it on.. just look in settings...
http://developer.sonymobile.com/knowledge-base/technologies/glonass/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_smartphones_using_GLONASS_Navigation#Motorola
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=gB9pXInwh3k
I think you can get an app to test the A-GPS and GLONASS performance...
There are a few options
This app: http://droid-games.com/en/Motorola_ATRIX_HD/android_programs/navigation/88-gps-test-plus-121.html
Or maybe this one: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cochibo.gpsstatus
Hope this helps! :highfive:
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jaweinre said:
I have usb OTG (or host) out of the box with cyanogenmod 11, at least i've tried a wireless keyboard and mice. Haven't tried it with stock roms.
The HDMI is pretty nice too 1280x720, connect to your tv, plug some controller via USB OTG and you got mobile gaming rig lol. 16GB (with maybe 12 available to user?) i find that to be not quite enough at all, specially for me that i use google play music and cache my music on the external sd.
Check out the battery mod thread, super easy not too expensive and you'll get very nice battery life (2+ days on with moderate usage and no battery eating ****ty apps).
AHD SHOULD be getting official KK according to "official" sources, tho not too soon maybe.
Oh and the AHD camera is crap tho, only way to get decent pics is plain daylight or very bright ilumination during the night.
Shouldn't there be cheaper used AHDs out there by now? Could probably get a cheap used AHD in good condition, put CM11 on it, do the battery mod and boom!
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I'm more or less set on Atrix HD over Moto G.. I read several reviews and benchmark/test reports.. in most of mobile reviews Moto G is rated higher than AHD.. but in benchmarks the story is opposite.. Moto G's MSM8226 is slower than AHD's MSM8960 (notebookcheck.net).. also Adreno 225 on AHD is better and faster than Moto G's Adreno 305 (notebookcheck and wikipedia).. I wonder why Moto G is rated better than? Price, battery and stock 4.4.2??
You said the cam is cr**? its not a biggie for me personally as I use the came occasionally but maybe I'll have to download a cam app to see if it improves the quality.. I think most of the features in Moto G's cam like touch focus, hdr and panorama are due to stock kitkat.. I think they can be easily added.. but I could be wrong
theenlightened1 said:
I don't think you need an apk to turn it on.. just look in settings...
http://developer.sonymobile.com/knowledge-base/technologies/glonass/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_smartphones_using_GLONASS_Navigation#Motorola
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=gB9pXInwh3k
I think you can get an app to test the A-GPS and GLONASS performance...
There are a few options
This app: http://droid-games.com/en/Motorola_ATRIX_HD/android_programs/navigation/88-gps-test-plus-121.html
Or maybe this one: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cochibo.gpsstatus
Hope this helps! :highfive:
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I'm more or less set on Atrix HD over Moto G.. I read several reviews and benchmark/test reports.. in most of mobile reviews Moto G is rated higher than AHD.. but in benchmarks the story is opposite.. Moto G's MSM8226 is slower than AHD's MSM8960 (notebookcheck.net).. also Adreno 225 on AHD is better and faster than Moto G's Adreno 305 (notebookcheck and wikipedia).. I wonder why Moto G is rated better than? Price, battery and stock 4.4.2??
You said the cam is cr**? its not a biggie for me personally as I use the came occasionally but maybe I'll have to download a cam app to see if it improves the quality.. I think most of the features in Moto G's cam like touch focus, hdr and panorama are due to stock kitkat.. I think they can be easily added.. but I could be wrong
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I've tried focal, google camera, other razr cameras, you name it. The camera hardware is just not so good, and prety bad off-stock.
jaweinre said:
I've tried focal, google camera, other razr cameras, you name it. The camera hardware is just not so good, and prety bad off-stock.
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Placed an order for AHD on ebay yesterday... hopefully I'll have it soon :victory:
I read Moto G's cam is even worse but maybe it was a personal opinion but some say so.... also there are a lot of 8MP cams which are even worse like on Lumia's.. plus I have a 5MP cam on my HTC DZ right now so I think 8MP will be a step up either way.. I won't get a EB40 for the time being.. will see if EB20 is enough for how I use the phone.. If I feel the need.. I'll get the EB40..
Thanks everyone...
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Atrix HD pros:
- great battery life with the right rom.
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So which rom do you recommend for the best battery life with eb20 stock phone battery? Sorry for bumping up an old thread
Outlaw92 said:
So which rom do you recommend for the best battery life with eb20 stock phone battery? Sorry for bumping up an old thread
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Everyone runs different apps and services so it's hard to tell without testing yourself. IMO, you should try a "slim" ROM. One that doesn't have a ton of features and advertises being light on resources. Also avoid using a custom kernel to overclock your processor (duh).
The next option you should consider the eb40 battery upgrade so you won't have to worry about your battery as much. I swapped mine as soon as I bought this phone and I've been very happy with the battery life (it should have been standard with this phone). Happy flashing![emoji4]
Dr. Orange said:
Everyone runs different apps and services so it's hard to tell without testing yourself. IMO, you should try a "slim" ROM. One that doesn't have a ton of features and advertises being light on resources. Also avoid using a custom kernel to overclock your processor (duh).
The next option you should consider the eb40 battery upgrade so you won't have to worry about your battery as much. I swapped mine as soon as I bought this phone and I've been very happy with the battery life (it should have been standard with this phone). Happy flashing![emoji4]
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Thanks for ur reply. And dude, where I come from, if I put in couple of more bucks into this phone by buying another battery and then taking into account all the money I spent on this device which includes the price of the phone itself, I could easily get a nexus 4 or LG optimus G in that whole price. So I just bought this phone for time pass. I'll upgrade sooner so I want to have short and quality time with this device.
Use holoblur (jb rom) for the best battery life. Load the pure performance x on it and it should be running much smoother.
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pijes said:
Use holoblur (jb rom) for the best battery life. Load the pure performance x on it and it should be running much smoother.
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Thanks, but its not compatible with Philz recovery. I tried to flash it but it gives status 7 error.
Outlaw92 said:
Thanks, but its not compatible with Philz recovery. I tried to flash it but it gives status 7 error.
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Uncheck the option about allowing old update binary. Then try again. I just flashed it and am posting from it.
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bmatney said:
Uncheck the option about allowing old update binary. Then try again. I just flashed it and am posting from it.
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Thanks, that worked.
OK so an update I finally got my AHD a while back and after unlocking, rooting and all the usual stuff I am shocked to see that there is NO way I can transfer app data to SD card...
My 4 years old HTC Desire Z gave me that option natively with ANY AND ALL ROM's I used... even the ones based on JB and KK.. I am now using the official CM 10.1.3 ROM on my AHD.. I used the Andromadus nightly build based on the same CM 10.1.3 and while that nightly supported moving app data to SD through settings->apps.. the official CM10.1.3 on AHD does not... why???
Is there a ROM that supports this natively so I can install as many apps as I want without worrying about this serious limitation.
Do you think motorola will upgrade the present X8 chip with 2 krait 300 cores to a new X8 chip with krait 400 cores? Snapdragon 800 already has a low power always listening core in it right? wonder whats in store for summer
eeshlikhith said:
Do you think motorola will upgrade the present X8 chip with 2 krait 300 cores to a new X8 chip with krait 400 cores? Snapdragon 800 already has a low power always listening core in it right? wonder whats in store for summer
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Who knows, but we should definitely see the core upgrade.
Moto X successor is still slated for late summer release. So it could be as late as August. By that time we will have Snapdragon 610 and 615 in market and those make perfect sense for new Moto X. Still not the high end for that time, but plenty of oomph while consuming less power and significant upgrade over current MSM8960DT.
Haven't heard of the 610 and 615. Thanks
The new Moto X should improve very nicely over the current.
I'm curious to see what new clever way Motorola will use the new tech.
I'm always for 'smarter' technology over more 'powerful' technology
roweboat56 said:
I'm curious to see what new clever way Motorola will use the new tech.
I'm always for 'smarter' technology over more 'powerful' technology
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I remember Dennis Woodside saying the next generation Touchless control wont require you to speak the command phrase first.
Current phrase is too long. With the android wear, we will be saying "OK Google" all the time. Then to say "OK Google now" for phone will be little odd. They can simply go for "Moto" or " Hey Moto". No phrase is not ideal. You don't want your phone to trigger touches control all the time.
From my Moto X, in your face!
If they keep with the theme of last year the x8 will be quietly upgraded and they will add new one useful features. Maybe slightly faster but still dual core. I would love for some upgrades on the rest of the phone. 1080p but still 4.7" display, better camera, wireless charging, more customizations?
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Better yet, a personalized command of your choice
For android wear you don't always have to say okay google now. In the video the guy in the train simply says "Reply" which is cool. I'd love to see that translated to the X. I wish Motorola has an X series which would keep the 4.7 size and some other series for other sizes all while maintaining the same specs in all series except the G.
The problem with a 1080p screen is eats more battery without much if any real increase in picture screen is to small.
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If they keep with the theme of last year the x8 will be quietly upgraded and they will add new one useful features. Maybe slightly faster but still dual core. I would love for some upgrades on the rest of the phone. 1080p but still 4.7" display, better camera, wireless charging, more customizations?
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The problem with a 1080p screen is eats more battery without much if any real increase in picture screen is to small.
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while 1080p does eat some battery up, there have now been advancements made in the newer 801 chipsets in regards to battery life. it would be great if MotoX 2 could get a dualcore variant of that, while also beefing the battery up to maybe 2600maH while retaining the same 4.7" screen. i'd also like to see a better camera for low light shots. if these were the upgrades, while also adding more useful features to the phone, i'd be sold day1.
i feel fairly confident that the screen size of the device will stay small. to most, that's one of the selling points of the MotoX.
I would also like an improved battery. Maybe next phone for me will be back to the Maxx. My fiancee is using my old RAZR maxx and I miss the crazy battery life she gets. The new maxx was just priced out of my reach so hopefully moto x 2 can bridge nicely.
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I am not really interested in tegra stuff but the 64bit dual core Denver might be a beast. I really hope more OEM's pull their heads out of their asses and go back to beefier dual cores rather than forcing quad on us. Heck, there's very few games that take full advantage of quad and I bet it's mostly tegea optimized games. Other benefits of going back to dual core besides pure power draw of cores themselves are using the spacing for bigger channels, faster ram, more ultra low voltage co processors, or dsp's/multi dsp's which ios and android still aren't taking full advantage of. What would be really awesome is if motorola comes out with something to compete with note3. Large screen with stylus, swappable battery, 64bit dual core, Kepler k1 or adreno 420, micro SD, heck two micro SD slots while I am dreaming, wireless charging, software nav buttons and Moto's legendary reception.
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I don't care what processors they use, like the Nexus devices need to do, put a BIGGER battery.
but I'm willing to bet some kind of S800 dual core variant.
I'm guessing it'll be a 5 inch FHD screen, quad core, and improved camera. The Moto X was crucified for its mid-range specs, despite calling itself a flagship phone, thus it won't be able to withstand another such release.
While many of the thoughts in this thread are correct, you have to keep in mind that the general consumer is a slave to the specs marketing game and that Motorola is struggling just to survive.
I'm not sure if I agree with that. The average techy may be obsessed with specs, but the average consumer probably buys based on price and marketing. They want a phone from a name they trust and something they can relate to. Samsung has this down. Motorola did step up their marketing, but they missed the mark. They should have played up their history.
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I'm not sure if I agree with that. The average techy may be obsessed with specs, but the average consumer probably buys based on price and marketing. They want a phone from a name they trust and something they can relate to. Samsung has this down. Motorola did step up their marketing, but they missed the mark. They should have played up their history.
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In the world of android, you need specs and/ price on your site to effectively market the phone.
If your phone is proceed like a high end phone, it better have high end specifications. Otherwise no matter how cool the phone is, how well it performs, it is difficult to market it.
See how many dumb @$$ reviews are there on popular shopping portals complaining about dual core CPU of Moto X.
Moto G is on the other hand received overwhelmingly positive reviews on same sites due to it's price and praises for its quad core CPU.
Hell there are multiple people complaining about moto x not being value for money when compared to "Quad core" Moto G..
Lot of techies who understood the potential of Moto X got it. Not masses.
When it comes to android, sadly average consumer does care about the specs.
Bit that mentality does mean that moto x owners have rather exclusive phone
From my Moto X, in your face!
I don't know. Most non-techy people I talk to never mention specs. They just want a "deal" on the newest Samsung phones. Because they don't want an apple phone and Samsung has marketed themselves as the anti-iphone. Just like the original Droid which had much success.
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In the world of android, you need specs and/ price on your site to effectively market the phone.
If your phone is proceed like a high end phone, it better have high end specifications. Otherwise no matter how cool the phone is, how well it performs, it is difficult to market it.
See how many dumb @$$ reviews are there on popular shopping portals complaining about dual core CPU of Moto X.
Moto G is on the other hand received overwhelmingly positive reviews on same sites due to it's price and praises for its quad core CPU.
Hell there are multiple people complaining about moto x not being value for money when compared to "Quad core" Moto G..
Lot of techies who understood the potential of Moto X got it. Not masses.
When it comes to android, sadly average consumer does care about the specs.
Bit that mentality does mean that moto x owners have rather exclusive phone
From my Moto X, in your face!
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I love the X as I do my favorite shaving razor the Bic Metal. These are still available in Europe & on Amazon. They lossed market share for the same reason-humble appearance.
I'm in the market for a new phone but am picky when it comes to choosing one. I made the thread in the Moto X forum because it's one of my go to choices. Here's what I'm looking for:
I have a lot of music (8GB) and little data so no cloud storage, must be on the device or SD card. 16GB or under will not work with ~8GB of music and some apps I'm looking at 2 free GB for future use.
I'm going to use this phone for the next 2-3 years
Must be usable with one hand - I hate huge phones and am really disappointed with manufacturers not providing any devices for the niche market that want high end specs in a mid size device. I'm forced to look at mid range phones or flagship phones from years back when they were smaller. The Moto X feels great in the hand however and works good with one handed usage.
I'd like a good camera and this is where the Moto X starts to worry me. I'm not printing any shots or making posters but if I can get a phone that has a better camera compared to the Moto X for the same price, I'd like that more.
1) Has the camera update really helped?
2) Has Kit Kat really helped?
3) What about using Google Camera app instead of the Motorola Camera app?
My budget is around $300 so if I choose the Moto X it would need to be the 32GB version and I'd need to wait a little bit for the price to get down to what I can afford, possibly when the X+1 comes out.
I'm thinking about either the Moto X or the S3. The S3 is the absolute biggest size I'm willing to hold with one hand, the N5 is too big. Before you say the S3 is 2 years old and is nearing the end of its life I will mention that I do not need a current flagship device. I text, make calls, listen to music, and browse the web on a smart phone. No videos, no games, nothing high tech. To this I say, why do I need anything more modern than an S3? Sure there's 1080p screens today and quad core CPUs and 3GB of RAM but I'm merely texting. My Galaxy Ace can text if I need it to.
The reason I'm liking the sound of the S3 is because of its superior camera compared to the Moto X. If anyone can convince me otherwise though, I'm open for other phone suggestions or if the camera on the X is better than I think it is I'm willing to wait for the price to go down. I will not be using the Moto X for its features 'ok Google Now' or driving mode or anything else.
Most important: size, memory, camera.
I can do some comparison pictures for my step father's s3 and my Moto X. I'll try and remember.
32GB Moto X meets all your needs albeit I suspect the S3 has a better camera indeed. I was the original owner of that s3 so I have some experience with it.
It's fast.
It's the perfect size.
Active notifications is godly.
Screen is great if you enjoy amoled screens.
Also, I do some hi-fi listening and own audiphone grade digital audio players like Fiio X5 and Hifiman HM700, Theorem 720 DAC/Amp and corresponding higher end headphones in the $300 to $1k range. The Moto X sounds decent to be honest. I even prefer it to my iphone 5 which as per technical specifications should be superior to the Moto X (flat frequency response and lower THD supposedly).
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I can do some comparison pictures for my step father's s3 and my Moto X. I'll try and remember.
32GB Moto X meets all your needs albeit I suspect the S3 has a better camera indeed. I was the original owner of that s3 so I have some experience with it.
It's fast.
It's the perfect size.
Active notifications is godly.
Screen is great if you enjoy amoled screens.
Also, I do some hi-fi listening and own audiphone grade digital audio players like Fiio X5 and Hifiman HM700, Theorem 720 DAC/Amp and corresponding higher end headphones in the $300 to $1k range. The Moto X sounds decent to be honest. I even prefer it to my iphone 5 which as per technical specifications should be superior to the Moto X (flat frequency response and lower THD supposedly).
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It's a great phone but the camera is a bummer from what I've seen. Do you mind posting some photos comparing the S3 and the Moto X when you get the chance? I'd appreciate it.
Hi guys, i'm not sure what to do. I Bought a Galaxy S4 four months ago and while it is quite a good phone, i broke the screen (it's pretty fragile) and after i changed the digitalizer, It's not the same anymore. Colors aren't as good as before, and also i got "ghost touches". I'm going to sell the S4 too because i want something more compact. While the 5 inch screen is great for use, i'm going to buy a 10" tablet so i would like something more compact as my primary phone, and for everything else i would have the tablet.
Now, i'm not sure what phone should replace my S4. I was wondering if the Moto G because i love how bright the LCD screen is, but the camera is a bit on the low (compared to S4), and G is a little bit chunky. The biggest pro is its price, just 200$ for 16GB version.
Another option for me was the Moto X. Is more compact, more refined and upscale than Moto G, 4.7" is the "sweet spot" for many, and have nice features like the active notifications, and touchless control. Moto X is at 300$ on Amazon right now. Supposedly both G and X are going to receive Android L update.
I used my S4 mainly for web-browsing. I can trow 20 tabs at once in Chrome and the Snapdragon 600 handles it pretty good. Also i occasionally use it for photos, mainly for documents from college. I love the contrast in AMOLED screens but i don't like how dim they are compared to LCD (Although newer AMOLED such as S5 features the best from both worlds).
Also I was wondering if this phone are too old, maybe there's a new Moto G coming, or what about Moto X.
What can you recommend me?
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Hi guys, i'm not sure what to do. I Bought a Galaxy S4 four months ago and while it is quite a good phone, i broke the screen (it's pretty fragile) and after i changed the digitalizer, It's not the same anymore. Colors aren't as good as before, and also i got "ghost touches". I'm going to sell the S4 too because i want something more compact. While the 5 inch screen is great for use, i'm going to buy a 10" tablet so i would like something more compact as my primary phone, and for everything else i would have the tablet.
Now, i'm not sure what phone should replace my S4. I was wondering if the Moto G because i love how bright the LCD screen is, but the camera is a bit on the low (compared to S4), and G is a little bit chunky. The biggest pro is its price, just 200$ for 16GB version.
Another option for me was the Moto X. Is more compact, more refined and upscale than Moto G, 4.7" is the "sweet spot" for many, and have nice features like the active notifications, and touchless control. Moto X is at 300$ on Amazon right now. Supposedly both G and X are going to receive Android L update.
I used my S4 mainly for web-browsing. I can trow 20 tabs at once in Chrome and the Snapdragon 600 handles it pretty good. Also i occasionally use it for photos, mainly for documents from college. I love the contrast in AMOLED screens but i don't like how dim they are compared to LCD (Although newer AMOLED such as S5 features the best from both worlds).
Also I was wondering if this phone are too old, maybe there's a new Moto G coming, or what about Moto X.
What can you recommend me?
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Soon there will be successor to Moto X, every year theres a new model. Its running old processor though(S4 pro) but its very smooth
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The X and the G are both great phones! If you can afford the X, obviously its the better choice. But the G is nice too. Lacks the X features tho.
honestly u should def go with the moto x will will just be more satisfied I just got mines a few days ago I lucked up and got the dev model also unlock and I am loving it
and I both iPhone and android user believe me when I say I leave the 5s in the car many times this phone gets it done
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Soon there will be successor to Moto X, every year theres a new model. Its running old processor though(S4 pro) but its very smooth
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This is very true. The S4 Pro is the name that many chipsets from 2012 used, but the CPU and GPU are very much 2013 technology. The CPU is an S4 Pro (similar to N4), but it's got Krait 300 cores (same cores used in Snapdragon 600, N4's S4 used Krait 200 -- N5 uses Krait 400). GPU is Adreno 320 (same as used by N4 and GS4, N5 uses Adreno 330 -- for comparison). I think also worth noting is that the 720p screen will age better on these specs than a phone with a 1080p screen (in terms of how much HW muscle is required to push info to the display).
You probably know this info -- just trying to give the OP as much info as possible on their decision.
I use a Moto X and really appreciate it (again -- very smooth). It might be worth it to see if concrete info on the X+1 comes out soon, but if rumors are true it will be bigger, and will obviously cost a lot more (which certainly makes a difference if you are planning to purchase outright).
Where I live, you can get the Moto X 16GB for the same price for the Moto G 16GB, but the phone is really worth it. I bought my Moto X less than a week ago and I'm totally loving it, it's quick, feels great in the hand and never lags.
If you take too many pictures though, you might feel disappointed. The camera ain't bad, it just is not good (or not as good). The pohne will most likely get updated to Android L, since Moto is currently part of Lenovo, but I don't know if they'll keep it updated after Lenovo starts to taking control over Motorola.
TL;DR: If you find it for a good price, get the Moto X, if you can get anything with a Snapdragon 800, get that.
I've the chance to buy probably BNDS / BNIB units at the same cost as say more recent MT6737M/ Snapdragon 435 even MT6795 units with microsd, 64bit support.
I'm tempted by having the snapdragon 801 at a low cost but is it too late now expecially with the lack of 64bit support or does its raw power still relevant?
What would you do?
Moto X was a great device in its era. Even today I still praise it for the most compact device with a 5,2 inch screen. I can operate it easily with one hand. But,in today's standart,it's an outdated device. You got plenty devices with better specs and prices to choose. The most complaint with Moto X in my opinion is the battery life. I own a Xiaomi Redmi Note 4X and comparing both is so pathetic. Battery endurance in Redmi Note 4 is so much better. If Moto X is the device with 4000 mah battery, I think it's still countable. With custom ROM,Moto X is still fast and fluid. I prefer using Moto X daily than my RN4X coz the design fits perfectly in my pocket.
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Absolutely......................................not. Look I love my X 2014 but it was a flawed device when it came out and that didn't let it age well. The camera and battery were terrible when it came out, now they are down right garbage in comparison to mid rangers. The screen was average when it came out, now it's terrible in comparison. The lack of fingerprint sensor might not seem like a big deal but until you use it, you don't know what your missing. The phone is still smooth but how long until developers move on. The design in my opinion was still one of the best, a classic for sure. It's just not worth it.
Get a Moto G5 Plus or similar, they are under 200 sales.
Battery is too bad nowadays even if performance is alright, if you absolutely must go Moto then get the G5 Plus
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prefer using Moto X daily than my RN4X coz the design fits perfectly in my pocket.
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Yeah I had hoped that the overall experience is still preferable even taking into account its cons.
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The most complaint with Moto X in my opinion is the battery life.
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I'm of the mindset that I can offset this issuee with phone with lots of powerbank choices now.
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The camera and battery were terrible when it came out, now they are down right garbage in comparison to mid rangers. The screen was average when it came out, now it's terrible in comparison.
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This is disappointing -- 1 factor that makes me consider this is (since i had no real life experience with it) -- that the AMOLED screen and camera would still be competent to comparable models.
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...It's just not worth it.
Get a Moto G5 Plus or similar, they are under 200 sales.
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Battery is too bad nowadays even if performance is alright, if you absolutely must go Moto then get the G5 Plus
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OK, if while considering all the above I add the relative context that in my area if available the G5 plus is 200USD, while the Moto X would be 110USD bnew, would that make it more appealing?
I've had mine for 2 years, and still loving it. I bought it in a carrier store for 400 Canadian Dollars. Since I can only buy phones in a store at full retail price, my choices are somewhat limited. I still can't find a "better" phone at $500 CAD. My Moto X 2014 is running the latest Android perfectly with 2GB RAM, and will run Android 8.0 Oreo (custom ROMs). The only consideration is band support, as it may not support the latest and fastest LTE bands used by some carriers nowadays. Also, this phone has NFC, some lower priced new phones may not.
The things I would be looking for in a new phone: longer battery life, latest LTE bands support, and maybe a bigger screen, like 5.5+ inch.
I just got that phone about 3 days ago... It is just amazing..remember.. It was a flagship.. Soft/hdw integratiom are perfect. Even with low battery and 2 gb of ram.. It's more worthy than several mid ranges phone mentioned. Besides, you get plenty of development for at least one more year.. Go for it!