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[Q] Is it possible to resize emmc for more internal?

Using cm7, I find many issues stem from apps trying to read from SD. is there a way to resize emmc to a smaller size and increase the size of internal storage? or are they on a seperate physical storage?
Thanks

If I understand correctly, what you are asking is it is possible to have CM see the WHOLE 5 GB as internal storage, rather than .998 GB and a mount point at /mnt/emmc?
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deadbot1 said:
If I understand correctly, what you are asking is it is possible to have CM see the WHOLE 5 GB as internal storage, rather than .998 TB and a mount point at /mnt/emmc?
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well i would like to know that.

Agreed. This would make a lot of things work nicer, if not better. The Nook app comes to mind first off. Lots of apps can't t see that mount point at /mnt/emmc.
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deadbot1 said:
Agreed. This would make a lot of things work nicer, if not better. The Nook app comes to mind first off. Lots of apps can't t see that mount point at /mnt/emmc.
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Could it be that the apps are written to store data to the mount point /sdcard?
There is a app in the developers area to swap /mnt/emmc and /sdcard. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1034939
I have not tried it so can not tell you how it works.

painter_ said:
Could it be that the apps are written to store data to the mount point /sdcard?
There is a app in the developers area to swap /mnt/emmc and /sdcard. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1034939
I have not tried it so can not tell you how it works.
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Yep, already looked at that...defeats the purpose of the idea...to get access to the FULL capacity...of BOTH the internal and SD card.
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deadbot1 said:
Yep, already looked at that...defeats the purpose of the idea...to get access to the FULL capacity...of BOTH the internal and SD card.
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Let me get this right, you want to join the capacity of the emmc and the sdcard as one mount point. Like a strip set?
I do not think that it would wise or even possible.

painter_ said:
Let me get this right, you want to join the capacity of the emmc and the sdcard as one mount point. Like a strip set?
I do not think that it would wise or even possible.
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i would like to know if its possible to use all the 5 gigs for apps and stuff.

painter_ said:
Let me get this right, you want to join the capacity of the emmc and the sdcard as one mount point. Like a strip set?
I do not think that it would wise or even possible.
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No, no. If you look at the way that CM7 uses the EMMC card on board it "splits" it into storage(the way a phone sees it in android) and a mount point that is like an SD card. The problem with this is that some apps are poorly written and can't see that mount point at /mnt/emmc. So you end up with certain apps not being able to access roughly 4 gigs of onboard storage.
The sdcard is seperate and handled correctly.
What the idea is here is to get the "phone storage" size to be the whole emmc and not just.92Gb(some limitation of android/CM7?). So you would end up when you look at the storage option in CM with Internal storage reading something like 4.9 gig instead of .92 gig and have no mount point at /mnt/emmc. All apps should be able to see the full capacity of the EMMC card and the external SD card this way.
Edit: sorry if I seem to ave threadjacked you electrikjesus. You just asked a VERY good question.

I would be happy even if there was a nice way to mount the emmc as /sdcard and then mount the actual external sd card as /sdcard/external_sd, similar to how my Captivate handles is. This would at least allow both to be access by all applications, and not just those few that will allow you to access parts of the filesystem besides /sdcard. Is there any reason fstab couldn't be modified to this?

deadbot1 said:
No, no. If you look at the way that CM7 uses the EMMC card on board it "splits" it into storage(the way a phone sees it in android) and a mount point that is like an SD card. The problem with this is that some apps are poorly written and can't see that mount point at /mnt/emmc. So you end up with certain apps not being able to access roughly 4 gigs of onboard storage.
The sdcard is seperate and handled correctly.
What the idea is here is to get the "phone storage" size to be the whole emmc and not just.92Gb(some limitation of android/CM7?). So you would end up when you look at the storage option in CM with Internal storage reading something like 4.9 gig instead of .92 gig and have no mount point at /mnt/emmc. All apps should be able to see the full capacity of the EMMC card and the external SD card this way.
Edit: sorry if I seem to ave threadjacked you electrikjesus. You just asked a VERY good question.
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I figured that you all would pretty much take it from here You know exactly what I was asking. Currently EMMC is a huge waste of usable space even if I resize it for DualBoot, I still have a good 2gb left over that could be used to increase the internal storage of my Daily CM7. I use the DB for honeycomb tests.
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Yep, I understand it perfectly...just never would have thought of actually asking about it
anywho...heres hoping that one of the devs or someone with some knowledge of the subject will chime in.

bump bumpty bump. Did we get lost in the 1.2 flood or what?

Really would like to see this happen as well, as it's kind of silly to have such a low amt of space for Apps and then a bunch of space kind of hidden that some may never even know about.

couldnt agree more - bumping my apps to the sdcard is a pain - Id like to have that unwasted /emmc 5 gig slice for something..

I have been looking everywhere to find an answer to this very question. Would love that extra space for apps and what not.

I use emmc to store all my music. Then point my music app to that partition. PowerAmp sees it just fine and I have the rest of my partitions freed up for more important things. Call me silly but I thought that is what it was for, to store data.

12paq said:
I use emmc to store all my music. Then point my music app to that partition. PowerAmp sees it just fine and I have the rest of my partitions freed up for more important things. Call me silly but I thought that is what it was for, to store data.
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12paq, this is exactly how I want to roll....I want my music on the 5Gb EMMC partition. I have PowerAmp already loaded. What is the best way to transfer my music from my PC to the EMCC of my NC?
EDIT: Nvm....figured it out...easier than I originally thought.

12paq said:
I use emmc to store all my music. Then point my music app to that partition. PowerAmp sees it just fine and I have the rest of my partitions freed up for more important things. Call me silly but I thought that is what it was for, to store data.
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Nope..you are both getting and missing the point. What if I want to store epubs there and my reader app of choice can't see anything but the "internal" storage or SD card. That's roughly 4 gigs of unusable space for me then. It would seem to me that from a compatability standpoint, getting all this to be seen as "internal storage" would be optimal.
Some apps just can't see that mount point, mostly those that were designed with typical phone setups in mind.
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I understand what you're saying... maybe we could start a bounty for resizing emmc for more app storage?
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SD file system support (aka none) - Xperia T

So, I just got myself a 64GB MicroSDXC from SanDisk to use in my Xperia T as storage for some movies. I planned on formatting it in EXT2/EXT3/EXT4 or EXFAT so I can store files bigger than 4GB on this.
But... turns out the Xperia T won't read anything but FAT32. I can use the full capacity just fine and it works perfectly, but you're stuck if you want to load anything bigger than 4GB since FAT32 can't handle it.
Sort of sucks.

Ambroos said:
So, I just got myself a 64GB MicroSDXC from SanDisk to use in my Xperia T as storage for some movies. I planned on formatting it in EXT2/EXT3/EXT4 or EXFAT so I can store files bigger than 4GB on this.
But... turns out the Xperia T won't read anything but FAT32. I can use the full capacity just fine and it works perfectly, but you're stuck if you want to load anything bigger than 4GB since FAT32 can't handle it.
Sort of sucks.
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It should be able to read them.
Just borrow someones galaxy to format your sd card to ext 4 and try that. It should work.

I thought the Xperia T can support microsd up to 32gb
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cf.wu said:
I thought the Xperia T can support microsd up to 32gb
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No, it will support more.
Many people have reported this on these forums

gregbradley said:
It should be able to read them.
Just borrow someones galaxy to format your sd card to ext 4 and try that. It should work.
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I used GParted in Linux to format the card from my PC, no dice. I tried EXT2, EXT3, EXT4, NTFS and exFAT. Nothing works. Tried hotplugging and rebooting with the card inserted.
I'm pretty sure the kernel only supports mounting FAT32 SD cards. With FAT32 everything is fine, you can use the full capacity and everything and the phone nicely formats it for you, but I can't live with the 4GB file size limit. Or well, not for the price I paid for the card.
I'm returning the card, doesn't really matter to me, but I absolutely don't get why Sony doesn't implement at least the EXT2/3/4 they use for the internal file system. It's baked into the kernel for sure but it just refuses to mount the SD card with it.

There are init.d scripts that will enable it, and I am sure there is a custom kernel that does enable it.
However, with 4.1 coming in q1 2013 you may want to hang onto that card....

gregbradley said:
There are init.d scripts that will enable it, and I am sure there is a custom kernel that does enable it.
However, with 4.1 coming in q1 2013 you may want to hang onto that card....
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I really don't want to unlock my bootloader or root my phone...
I'm selling the card now, I got it online for way below what they go for in Belgium so I'm actually making a profit anyway. Not that I'm doing it for that, but when I want to I can just get another one around that time (but then I'll test with another card beforehand).

Why are you not for rooting your phone. I'm trying to way up if it's worth doing. And there's also the risk of my tech ability. I would say I'm a rank amateur in the tech department. Any opinions on where I can go to start learning. I have Xperia lt30p. Gratitude to anyone who points me in the right direction.
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kympton said:
Why are you not for rooting your phone. I'm trying to way up if it's worth doing. And there's also the risk of my tech ability. I would say I'm a rank amateur in the tech department. Any opinions on where I can go to start learning. I have Xperia lt30p. Gratitude to anyone who points me in the right direction.
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I've rooted tons of phones before, I'm a software development student and an extreme Android geek, but I like the safe, walled garden I'm in right now. I like what Sony has done with Android and want to keep as much of it intact to be honest.
I've rooted my own phones before too, but I felt I really spent too much time messing with it after doing those things, always tweaking things that really didn't do anything but offer placebo effects. I like not having to worry about that stuff.
And I don't want to risk any sort of warranty loss.

That's exactly what has been holding me back. If I was to root it I don't have any dev skills so would probably end up doing exactly what you explained. Just tweaking for tweaking's sake. But I do want to start understanding what's being said in forums. Some of it goes way over my head. I would like to test the limits of my Xperia t but am a little unsure where to start. How do you feel the Xperia t holds up in the top ranks of smartphones. This is my first Sony smart and I'm fairly happy so far.
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Start by reading the all in one thread in the Q&A section.
You will not void any warranty by rooting as you can always revert back to factory settings by flashing a stock ftf and no one will know.
Furthermore you can do more than just placebo tweaks, like remove bloatware and change the look of your phone by adding new systemui.apk mods. Take a look in the theme and app section
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How do I customise the signature on xda premium app?

Ambroos said:
So, I just got myself a 64GB MicroSDXC from SanDisk to use in my Xperia T as storage for some movies. I planned on formatting it in EXT2/EXT3/EXT4 or EXFAT so I can store files bigger than 4GB on this.
But... turns out the Xperia T won't read anything but FAT32. I can use the full capacity just fine and it works perfectly, but you're stuck if you want to load anything bigger than 4GB since FAT32 can't handle it.
Sort of sucks.
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You had the same idea as me. I purchased a MicroSD card today, although it was only 8GB. I can confirm that anything other than Fat32 is not readable by the Xperia T running stock ICS.
I'm splitting the HD movies into two parts as a short-term workaround.
Further to the above, I can confirm that splitting the movie files using Split and Concat on a Mac (or Hjsplit on Windows), produces files which play fine in VLC player and MX player. The downside is that you have to navigate to the file using a file browser, for example, Astro and select play as video file and select your choice of player.
Not a very elegant solution, but allows Fat32 to be used and movie files larger than 4GB to be transferred and played.
Hope this helps!

davart said:
I can confirm that anything other than Fat32 is not readable by the Xperia T running stock ICS.
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Wrong! I've got an EXT3/4 formatted 64gb card in my Xperia T and have about 45gb of data on it at the mo, and all of which is accessible. As Greg has already suggested, and I formatted mine using a Samsung Galaxy Note, but you could probably use any latest generation Galaxy!
There are at least 2 other threads discussing this (SD capacity and format). People really should use the search function - and they are probably in the Q & A thread.
Oh and I'm stock ROM, with nothing unlocked.

emuX said:
Wrong! I've got an EXT3/4 formatted 64gb card in my Xperia T and have about 45gb of data on it at the mo, and all of which is accessible. As Greg has already suggested, and I formatted mine using a Samsung Galaxy Note, but you could probably use any latest generation Galaxy!
There are at least 2 other threads discussing this (SD capacity and format). People really should use the search function - and they are probably in the Q & A thread.
Oh and I'm stock ROM, with nothing unlocked.
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Are you sure it's ext3/ext4? Can you put files over 4GB on your SD? I formatted the card directly from GParted on my PC and tried about every file system there is and really only FAT32 was recognized.

Ambroos said:
Are you sure it's ext3/ext4? Can you put files over 4GB on your SD? I formatted the card directly from GParted on my PC and tried about every file system there is and really only FAT32 was recognized.
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Not absolutely sure but I had to use an ext3/4 mounting tool to get readonly access when I inserted the card directly into my Windows PC. (not being able to get read/write access I tend to just connect the phone to the PC these days though.)
I've got a couple of > 4gb movies on the card and they seem to be playing fine.

Hi everyone! Has someone tried the xperia z with a 32 card with exFAT or ex# (no fat32 file system) and work with files bigger than 4 gb? It is most important for me to handle this file size. Thanks!

brau__lio said:
Hi everyone! Has someone tried the xperia z with a 32 card with exFAT or ex# (no fat32 file system) and work with files bigger than 4 gb? It is most important for me to handle this file size. Thanks!
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This is the Xperia T/TL/TX/V-section. The Z is discussed here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2083

Mad Marty said:
This is the Xperia T/TL/TX/V-section. The Z is discussed here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2083
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Sorry, I meant Xperia T. Thanks!

B&N SD Card Breakthrough

Based on what I was reading in the Barnes and Nobles Nook HD forums, setting up a Hybrid system SD card as primary storage is NOT a task for the light hearted. I found a way that's easy to do and works great. I have 32gb G.Skill class 10 Sd and a Barnes and Noble Nook HD
(Not Plus, Haven't tried this on Plus). (Seems long but it really only took me 30 mins from the very beginning)
- First and foremost you have to set up your SD card and get CWM (Clockworkmod) active. I just followed Diogenes5 instructions that are posted on http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37578234 . I just followed up to Step 7
- I then booted up to Cyanogen and once I got to the lock screen I just held the power buttom to shut down.
- Now pop out the SD, and hook it up to the computer
- I used a program called Mini Tool Partition Wizard
- This will dislplay all the Partition on your SD card (Should be split in 4 parts)
- Now Delete (Format) the larger part ot the Sd card which should be all the way to the right (Fat 32)
- Also Delete The Ext 4 partition and now you will have 1 larger empty space.
- Partition the Unallocated space into 2 any way you like. The left half should be partitioned Ext 4 (Primary) this will be your actual system space.
- The right half of the partition will be fat 32 and Cyanogen will see this as an SD partition. I prefer to make the system partition larger.
With my own set up I have the system partition as 21 gigs and the secondary Sd partition as 8 gigs.
Downloaded the Newest Rom at the time which is cm-10.1-20130425-UNOFFICIAL-hummingbird *** NEWEST
good luck and let me know how you did

CHK4ME said:
Based on what I was reading in the Barnes and Nobles Nook HD forums, setting up a Hybrid system SD card as primary storage is NOT a task for the light hearted. I found a way that's easy to do and works great. I have 32gb G.Skill class 10 Sd and a Barnes and Noble Nook HD
(Not Plus, Haven't tried this on Plus). (Seems long but it really only took me 30 mins from the very beginning)
- First and foremost you have to set up your SD card and get CWM (Clockworkmod) active. I just followed Diogenes5 instructions that are posted on http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37578234 . I just followed up to Step 7
- I then booted up to Cyanogen and once I got to the lock screen I just held the power buttom to shut down.
- Now pop out the SD, and hook it up to the computer
- I used a program called Mini Tool Partition Wizard
- This will dislplay all the Partition on your SD card (Should be split in 4 parts)
- Now Delete (Format) the larger part ot the Sd card which should be all the way to the right (Fat 32)
- Also Delete The Ext 4 partition and now you will have 1 larger empty space.
- Partition the Unallocated space into 2 any way you like. The left half should be partitioned Ext 4 (Primary) this will be your actual system space.
- The right half of the partition will be fat 32 and Cyanogen will see this as an SD partition. I prefer to make the system partition larger.
With my own set up I have the system partition as 21 gigs and the secondary Sd partition as 8 gigs.
Downloaded the Newest Rom at the time which is cm-10.1-20130425-UNOFFICIAL-hummingbird *** NEWEST
good luck and let me know how you did
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Why is this a break through? Having your /system at 21GB is a complete waste of SD space. You cannot use it for anything. CM10.1 only uses about .5GB of that and the rest is wasted.
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leapinlar said:
Why is this a break through? Having your /system at 21GB is a complete waste of SD space. You cannot use it for anything. CM10.1 only uses about .5GB of that and the rest is wasted.
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This is why its a break through friend. I am able to use all of it not just 5gb. Did you actually read the first post?

CHK4ME said:
This is why its a break through friend. I am able to use all of it not just 5gb. Did you actually read the first post?
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I did read it. What 5GB are you talking about. All I saw was you repartitioned the card so that /system is 21GB and CM10SDCARD is reduced to 8GB. What am I missing?
Edit: Did you read my post? I said 1/2 GB, not 5 GB.
Edit2: And if you are talking about using the 21GB for something besides the /system ROM, it is not usable. That is why we made it so small in the first place.
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leapinlar said:
I did read it. What 5GB are you talking about. All I saw was you repartitioned the card so that /system is 21GB and CM10SDCARD is reduced to 8GB. What am I missing?
Edit: Did you read my post? I said 1/2 GB, not 5 GB.
Edit2: And if you are talking about using the 21GB for something besides the /system ROM, it is not usable. That is why we made it so small in the first place.
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Either I didn't explain it properly or your not getting it. I check the forums and no where did I see a tutorial on how to do what I just explained. Send me a link if you find it.... Thanks

CHK4ME said:
Either I didn't explain it properly or your not getting it. I check the forums and no where did I see a tutorial on how to do what I just explained. Send me a link if you find it.... Thanks
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You are right about one thing, there is no other thread with a tutorial about how to change the Hybrid's partitions. But what you are not explaining well and I am not getting is, why would anyone want to do this?
Are you under the impression that making the /system partition larger is somehow useful? If so, tell me how you are going to use that extra /system space. Maybe that will help me understand.
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leapinlar said:
You are right about one thing, there is no other thread with a tutorial about how to change the Hybrid's partitions. But what you are not explaining well and I am not getting is, why would anyone want to do this?
Are you under the impression that making the /system partition larger is somehow useful? If so, tell me how you are going to use that extra /system space. Maybe that will help me understand.
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Well what I found Is that 5gb is not enough for me personally. I am really trying to turn this thing into a media player which I'm assuming everyone else is trying to do as well, so < 5gb is not cutting it... At all. There is a dramatic difference between 5 and 20gb; you have a lot more freedom and flexability. Also please keep in mind that formatting the wrong partitions can brick/corrupt your Nook HD so please don't speak of it so lightly because you might mislead others who may think its harmless.

CHK4ME said:
Well what I found Is that 5gb is not enough for me personally. I am really trying to turn this thing into a media player which I'm assuming everyone else is trying to do as well, so < 5gb is not cutting it... At all. There is a dramatic difference between 5 and 20gb; you have a lot more freedom and flexability. Also please keep in mind that formatting the wrong partitions can brick/corrupt your Nook HD so please don't speak of it so lightly because you might mislead others who may think its harmless.
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Lol. This is a good read if only for the amusing factor. You don't realize that you just lost 20Gb of usable space because the /system partition Is used for system files and ONLY system files. And that's why it's so small, because the system only needs .5 gigs. The rest (in partition 4) which you significantly reduced, is where the media and data is kept.
Leapinlar has tried 3 times to make this point. He is a very patient man but I think you are stretching him pretty thin. Please re read the entire thread carefully and hopefully you will see why he's saying that the process you are describing is not beneficial.
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bpaulien said:
Lol. This is a good read if only for the amusing factor. You don't realize that you just lost 20Gb of usable space because the /system partition Is used for system files and ONLY system files. And that's why it's so small, because the system only needs .5 gigs. The rest (in partition 4) which you significantly reduced, is where the media and data is kept.
Leapinlar has tried 3 times to make this point. He is a very patient man but I think you are stretching him pretty thin. Please re read the entire thread carefully and hopefully you will see why he's saying that the process you are describing is not beneficial.
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There is no reasoning with him.
I think I understand now what he is saying about the 5GB. The stock 8GB Nook HD has only 5GB of internal media space for storing media files. But what he is not getting is his mod does not help that situation. Somehow he is thinking increasing the SD /system will help. Like you also tried to point out, he just took 20GB of his SD media space away that he could have been using for media files and allocated it to useless /system space.
I really don't care what he does with his own device, I just don't want him influencing others to do the same thing with theirs. Thanks for the support.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10 on Hybrid SD

leapinlar said:
There is no reasoning with him.
I think I understand now what he is saying about the 5GB. The stock 8GB Nook HD has only 5GB of internal media space for storing media files. But what he is not getting is his mod does not help that situation. Somehow he is thinking increasing the SD /system will help. Like you also tried to point out, he just took 20GB of his SD media space away that he could have been using for media files and allocated it to useless /system space.
I really don't care what he does with his own device, I just don't want him influencing others to do the same thing with theirs. Thanks for the support.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10 on Hybrid SD
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LOL! "Leapinlar has tried 3 times to make this point. He is a very patient man but I think you are stretching him pretty thin" What's going to happen is Leapinlar going to give me a scolding??!! Wow! . Just for the record both partitions have OVER 5gb of content and I have no problems what so ever with the space being used. In my first post I made a mistake of saying that the Ext 4 is the system partition which I guess is wrong thanks to **** and dock who were so PROUD to correct me. Use common sense, I guess its obvious that I didn't touch the system partition because If I did format it I would have a bricked system. Thanks for the information and I see the error in my explanation but please don't be so condesending with your little comments. I made a mistake with the terminology which caused you and your cheerleader to not sleep at night.... Sorry!!!

CHK4ME said:
LOL! "Leapinlar has tried 3 times to make this point. He is a very patient man but I think you are stretching him pretty thin" What's going to happen is Leapinlar going to give me a scolding??!! Wow! . Just for the record both partitions have OVER 5gb of content and I have no problems what so ever with the space being used. In my first post I made a mistake of saying that the Ext 4 is the system partition which I guess is wrong thanks to **** and dock who were so PROUD to correct me. Use common sense, I guess its obvious that I didn't touch the system partition because If I did format it I would have a bricked system. Thanks for the information and I see the error in my explanation but please don't be so condesending with your little comments. I made a mistake with the terminology which caused you and your cheerleader to not sleep at night.... Sorry!!!
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Apology accepted.

No EXT SD Card - Try using OTG

I was very dissapointed that I could not use an External SD card with the S6 - but recently read a post that explained how to use OTG to provide working external storage that integrates with TWRP.
You have to be on the lastest version of TWRP for this to work TWRP Version 2.8.6.2
Then you have to have an OTG Device that you can connect to your phone - I personally chose this one - I am not suggesting you buy this - only showing you one of many different options - this one is a micro so it is very small
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00RBGYGPG?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00
and then you will need a USB Storage device of some kind - Thumb Drive - or whatever. I found a very small micro USB storage with 64GB that I am using.
Once you have everything you need - the Correct TWRP installed - reboot to recovery and plug your OTG-USB Storage into the S6.
Go to MOUNTS and Mount the OTG
now you can flash roms if you have any stored on it- you can create and restore Nandroid Backups - everything you could do with an Ext SD card on your previous phone.
I believe it is important to UNMOUNT the OTG Device before you unplug it. Probably is safest if you do - to avoid data corruption. I have only been using mine for a day or two - but i have backed up and restored from OTG and it works beautifully. Might be a tad slower than using your normal SD Card.
WHen flashing roms or creating or restoring backups - be sure to choose OTG as the storage you want to use in TWRP just like you did when using an EXT SD Card.
It is not the perfect solution to replacing an External SD Card - but it comes damn close. And personally, with the MICRO OTG and USB it is very small and not cumbersome at all. Works Beautifully,
I hope this helps you

Yup....that's what I use. Store all my music on it
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http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-conne...F8&qid=1431018386&sr=1-1&keywords=sandisk+otg
is what i use. have had it for a long time for use with my n7

rjayflo said:
Yup....that's what I use. Store all my music on it
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I must have been living under a rock - or maybe because I never needed it before, I didn't look into it more. now without an EXT SD Card, it has become very handy to extend the 64GB storage my S6 has to almost indefinite possibilities.

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http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-conne...F8&qid=1431018386&sr=1-1&keywords=sandisk+otg
is what i use. have had it for a long time for use with my n7
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I was looking for a small 3.0 when I first started searching for these - I guess I didn't search hard enough - does the 3.0 make a noticible difference in speed when backing up stuff or no?

Good thread op - thanks for the heads up. I just nandroided to a usb drive (tbh don't know if it's usb 2.0 or 3.0) but it took 45 minutes to complete Lol. 10Gb total. It worked though so cool. I'll have to try on a usb 3.0 forsure to tell the differences.

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I was looking for a small 3.0 when I first started searching for these - I guess I didn't search hard enough - does the 3.0 make a noticible difference in speed when backing up stuff or no?
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Depends on how large your install is. A large nandroid it will deff save time
130MB/S is the speed of this one and that is more important than the usb 3.

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USB 3 may help for PC transfers, but keep in mind that the S6 is only USB2...
As it is, since i have a 64GB card from my S4, i went with a rather handy solution: http://www.amazon.com/Leef-microSD-microUSB-Connector-Android/dp/B00J2D7R20

I prefer wireless access. Plus, with a wireless storage device your not limited by device. Anything can access this thing, I have used it on my phone, home media player. Not a bad device, supports microsd, regular usb flash drives etc. Love it.
http://amzn.to/1ckAgsc

drksilenc said:
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-conne...F8&qid=1431018386&sr=1-1&keywords=sandisk+otg
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This is what I use as well. I have it on my key chain so I always have it. Works great.

Prod1702 said:
This is what I use as well. I have it on my key chain so I always have it. Works great.
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I appreciate the tip - I picked one of those up the other day - ordred from Amazon - and it is perfect - very small - less than 1 inch long - it really helps make up for not having an External SD Card - and it is pretty fast too -

mocsab said:
I appreciate the tip - I picked one of those up the other day - ordred from Amazon - and it is perfect - very small - less than 1 inch long - it really helps make up for not having an External SD Card - and it is pretty fast too -
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Can you store all your pictures on that? I have the 32gb and I have all the apps I need installed and I still have 19gb left and I want to keep it that way so I figured all the pics I take I can just put it on one of those. If it really does work like that than it really does make up for not having a SD card.
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I already had a 64gb SD card so I purchased this cheap little thing, will let everyone know how it works once it comes in.

Thanks a lot for posting this!! It has help me a lot. I am 1 who is used to using an ext sdcard, so this is great it almost does replace it. Thank You much @mocsab:highfive:

This thing looks pretty awesome for $27 (64GB USB 3)
http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Voyager-Android-devices-CMFVG-64GB-NA/dp/B00HVT27B8

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But I can't see my music in Google play! I'm using a Nexus 5x which is on latest marshmallow

largest SD card HD+ can take

Hi
What is the largest size SD card the HD+ can take as of today? I have seen posts talking about 64GB. Just to make sure that is it as far as capacity.
Trying to decide if i should buy the 16GB or 32GB model.
The 32GB model seems to have quite a premium on it on the used market, so it seems the 16GB mpdel and a SD card would be better value.
Next thing is the battery issue. What are the chances that a used HD+ battery will have much, if any, life left in it?
Read an interesting thread here today (been reading about HD+ all day) about a guy who used 2 x Sony batteries. So the batteries can be replaced and those sony batteries will be around for a fair while (new phone model they come out of) so seems the nook can go on and on as far battery replacement goes.
Why a Nook HD+ ? Its the only tablet i can find with no camera other than an IPAD 1. I've given up on the IPAD 1 - much much too much messing around trying to get decent modern apps on it.
My useage is mainly movies, music and ebooks. I think the HD+ is the right choice.
Thanks for any heads up/opinions
*edit*......
Guess another way i could have said this is, will the HD+ take a 200GB card? If not what is the max size storage i can attach either by SD card, or USB host method ?

You are better off paying the premium for the 32GB model. Since the device uses an emulated internal SD, the extra space internally is critical. After the system is set up you are left with only an 8GB internal SD on the 16GB model. And most apps will only use the internal SD. Many apps will not even recognize the external SD. And I only have heard of the 64GB card working, don't know about larger.
And the factory battery comes charged at 50% and I would expect a new device to have a good working battery. Used devices could have a bad battery.
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leapinlar said:
You are better off paying the premium for the 32GB model.
Many apps will not even recognize the external SD. And I only have heard of the 64GB card working, don't know about larger.
And the factory battery comes charged at 50% and I would expect a new device to have a good working battery. Used devices could have a bad battery.
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Ok thanks for that info - that's really critical to know. Well i already bought the 16GB model and its being sent to the freight consolidator, so too late on that one.
But the next few I buy will be the 32GB model. I intend to buy 3 or 4 and have them all sent in one go. That way i should be able to end up with 1 or 2 that work OK.
I will stick with the 64GB cards - class 4 is what i think i saw mentioned here, so will look for those.
Thanks for the heads up.

My intended usage is movie viewing, listening to music and reading books. That's pretty much it. I dont expect to use it for browsing or anything else really.
Will Mx player, a music player app and an e-reader work OK in the 8GB left over internally? Media can go on the 64GB Micro SD card, and if i can get OTG working, i can use an SSD drive and/or a USB memory stick.
The only reason i want the Nook HD+ is for media consumption.

If you are not going to be using the SD to run a rom, you do not need to restrict yourself to class 4. I doubt you could find a 64 in class 4 anyway.
You have not said whether you are going to run stock or a custom rom.
You can use one of my utilities to swap the internal and external SDs. But, for the swap to work the SD must be formatted fat32. Most 64GB cards are not. See my CWM thread. Here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2062613 item 4.
And yes the apps will work with the 8GB and it will hold a lot of books and some music. Movies will gooble it up fast.
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leapinlar said:
If you are not going to be using the SD to run a rom, you do not need to restrict yourself to class 4. I doubt you could find a 64 in class 4 anyway.
You have not said whether you are going to run stock or a custom rom.
You can use one of my utilities to swap the internal and external SDs. But, for the swap to work the SD must be formatted fat32. Most 64GB cards are not. See my CWM thread. Here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2062613 item 4.
And yes the apps will work with the 8GB and it will hold a lot of books and some music. Movies will gooble it up fast.
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You are very correct - cant find a 64GB card in Class 4. Struggling to find a 32GB card in Class 4.
BUT - if i dont plan to run from SD then you say i dont need to restrict to class 4 - so would this one be OK ?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820173109
I want to run a custom ROM. I have downloaded lots of files for CM11 - My plan would be to use CM11 as a base ROM to fall back too if a 12.1 ROM proves to be unstable for me. Ultimate goal would be to run Lollipop if i can. I only want to watch movies, listen to music and read books - no need of browsing etc, email and the like as i wont have any wi-fi anyway.
This is waaaaay to far in advance right now but just curious...... is it possible to get a ROM that has wi-fi removed or not functional?
Thanks for your input. Doing lots and lots of reading here, feel like i am starting to make sense of it all,
I have bought the new 16GB model and now also have 2 x 32GB used HD+'s as well.
I need, the USB connector, OTG cable ??, a power bank so i could try to use an SSD drive, micro SDXC cards.
Cant think of anything else right now other then maybe a USB charger from RAVPOWER or ANKA or similar as the power supply that comes with the HD+ wont fit our wall sockets here.
Other then that, i think thats it.
Cheers and beers to you all.

RevJimJones said:
You are very correct - cant find a 64GB card in Class 4. Struggling to find a 32GB card in Class 4.
BUT - if i dont plan to run from SD then you say i dont need to restrict to class 4 - so would this one be OK ?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820173109
I want to run a custom ROM. I have downloaded lots of files for CM11 - My plan would be to use CM11 as a base ROM to fall back too if a 12.1 ROM proves to be unstable for me. Ultimate goal would be to run Lollipop if i can. I only want to watch movies, listen to music and read books - no need of browsing etc, email and the like as i wont have any wi-fi anyway.
This is waaaaay to far in advance right now but just curious...... is it possible to get a ROM that has wi-fi removed or not functional?
Thanks for your input. Doing lots and lots of reading here, feel like i am starting to make sense of it all,
I have bought the new 16GB model and now also have 2 x 32GB used HD+'s as well.
I need, the USB connector, OTG cable ??, a power bank so i could try to use an SSD drive, micro SDXC cards.
Cant think of anything else right now other then maybe a USB charger from RAVPOWER or ANKA or similar as the power supply that comes with the HD+ wont fit our wall sockets here.
Other then that, i think thats it.
Cheers and beers to you all.
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Yes that SD works fine.
CM11 has been know to brick some HD+ devices. I recommend CM10.1.3. It is fast, safe and stable on the HD series. You don't need anything any more advanced than that for what you want to use it for.
I don't know anything about OTG.
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Thank you for the info and the heads up on 10.1.3. Is that JellyBean then?

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Thank you for the info and the heads up on 10.1.3. Is that JellyBean then?
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Doing extensive deep dive into this...... reading so much its all becoming a blur and will have to re-read it all
From the extensive research i have done it seems every CM ROM has issues. Ver 10.1, 10.2, 10.3 have had users report issues of various types. CM 11 seems to have issues from time to time as does CM12.
Given this, is there any real difference between using 10.3 and 11.x.x ? Fro what i read KitKat 4.4.4 makes better use of resources as an OS and that this helps the HD+ ???
I am just trying to figure out if i should run with 10.3 or an 11 or 12 ROM?
Another question, not that this matters right now but interested to know....... the screen res. Its 1080P. Does it make a difference if i encode video files at 720P for the screen of the HD+ that has native 1080P? I would hate to spend a huge amount of time encoding down to 720P only to find it looks terrible because the native res is 1080P.
I can make my video files so much smaller encoding to 720P rather then 1080P. I would think on a 9" screen it would be little if any visible difference between 1080P and 720P encoded from a Blue Ray ?

RevJimJones said:
Doing extensive deep dive into this...... reading so much its all becoming a blur and will have to re-read it all
From the extensive research i have done it seems every CM ROM has issues. Ver 10.1, 10.2, 10.3 have had users report issues of various types. CM 11 seems to have issues from time to time as does CM12.
Given this, is there any real difference between using 10.3 and 11.x.x ? Fro what i read KitKat 4.4.4 makes better use of resources as an OS and that this helps the HD+ ???
I am just trying to figure out if i should run with 10.3 or an 11 or 12 ROM?
Another question, not that this matters right now but interested to know....... the screen res. Its 1080P. Does it make a difference if i encode video files at 720P for the screen of the HD+ that has native 1080P? I would hate to spend a huge amount of time encoding down to 720P only to find it looks terrible because the native res is 1080P.
I can make my video files so much smaller encoding to 720P rather then 1080P. I would think on a 9" screen it would be little if any visible difference between 1080P and 720P encoded from a Blue Ray ?
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video on HD+ looks good at all res.
And I told you CM11 is dangerous because it can brick certain models with the vulnerable chips. Stick with CM10.1.3.
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leapinlar said:
video on HD+ looks good at all res.
And I told you CM11 is dangerous because it can brick certain models with the vulnerable chips. Stick with CM10.1.3.
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OK got it. Best i stop reading now ;}
So 720P it is for me then.
Which are the certain models with vulnerable chips? Always nice to know if the tab you have is vulnerable.

RevJimJones said:
OK got it. Best i stop reading now ;}
So 720P it is for me then.
Which are the certain models with vulnerable chips? Always nice to know if the tab you have is vulnerable.
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Search the HD+ forum for "trim bug", it will tell you.
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RevJimJones said:
OK got it. Best i stop reading now ;}
So 720P it is for me then.
Which are the certain models with vulnerable chips? Always nice to know if the tab you have is vulnerable.
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Here is the link to CM Wiki page on the Samsung EMMC Bug:
https://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/EMMC_Bugs
FWIW CM11 later releases incorporated fixes that avoid triggering this fatal bug on affected devices.