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OK, I am going to be getting a couple NCs for the wife and I. So I have been doing a lot of reading and want to make sure I have a handle on evrtything. I have decided that CM7 is the way to go. If I am understanding correctly I basically create a CM7 image on an SD Card (cheap Sandisk seems to work best???) and then I can run it from the SD card without installing it on the internal memory of the NC. That way I can pull the SD card, reboot and have a stock NC. Is that right? Will the performance suffer from running it from the SD card? Are there benefits to installing on the internal memory? Also, if I do install it to the internal memory, how do you use it as a normal NC? Do you just get the Android Nook app? How does that compare to the actual Nook software? Do you lose any functionality? My wife will use hers primarily as an e reader whereas mine will be a tablet first. Does anyone have experience using different browsers like Skyfire and Opera? Those are what I use a lot on my phone. I have seen the name Dolphin HDused alot, but I don't know anything about it. I am sorry for all the questions and if my terminology is not 100% accurate. I am, as the welcome video says; a noob.
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Nard Dog said:
OK, I am going to be getting a couple NCs for the wife and I. So I have been doing a lot of reading and want to make sure I have a handle on evrtything. I have decided that CM7 is the way to go.
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Nard Dog said:
If I am understanding correctly I basically create a CM7 image on an SD Card (cheap Sandisk seems to work best???) and then I can run it from the SD card without installing it on the internal memory of the NC. That way I can pull the SD card, reboot and have a stock NC. Is that right?
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That is correct; with one exception. CM7 will mount the "Media" partition, and changes there will be reflected on the stock OS (this partition just stores your files, pictures, music, etc; nothing related to the system).
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Will the performance suffer from running it from the SD card? Are there benefits to installing on the internal memory?
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Yes, performance will suffer. I used to run from SD card, until i finally gave up and tried internal. Internal is much faster, and of course makes it easier to use you SD card for pure storage.
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Also, if I do install it to the internal memory, how do you use it as a normal NC? Do you just get the Android Nook app?
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Normal NC? You mean as just an eReader? Yes, you would just use the market version of the nook app.
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How does that compare to the actual Nook software? Do you lose any functionality?
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From what i have seen, you will lose the "Read to me" functionality, and the look and feel of the market version is different of that of the stock version. But, by using CM7 (or rooting stock), you can gain access to Kindle and Google books, which kind of makes up for it.
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My wife will use hers primarily as an e reader whereas mine will be a tablet first.
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I would say for you, CM7 internal would be good (remember, you can always put the stock OS back on if you change your mind), and the stock OS best for you wife.
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Does anyone have experience using different browsers like Skyfire and Opera? Those are what I use a lot on my phone. I have seen the name Dolphin HDused alot, but I don't know anything about it.
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Opera is by far the best browser; it is the only browser with renders web pages with the GPU; this is what allows smooth scrolling and page views (like the iPad has). Dolphin is nothing more than a skin of the stock browser, and isn't worth worrying about.
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I am sorry for all the questions and if my terminology is not 100% accurate. I am, as the welcome video says; a noob.
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Remember, we are ALL "noobs" at one point in our life. Being willing to ask and learn is how you stop being one.

Nard Dog said:
Also, if I do install it to the internal memory, how do you use it as a normal NC? Do you just get the Android Nook app? How does that compare to the actual Nook software? Do you lose any functionality? My wife will use hers primarily as an e reader whereas mine will be a tablet first.
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The Android Nook app loses:
* Read To Me
* Shelves
* A quick shortcut to the current book you're reading
It gains a couple of features: a fancy page-turn animation, and a true black & white "night" mode. (The stock reader's night mode is more of an off-white on dark gray, if I remember right.)
If your wife has a lot of nook books, she may really miss the shelves feature. Without it all books are listed on one page, ordered by Title, Author or Most Recent. That's most recently purchased, not most recently read.
With no shortcut, every time you return to the app you have to scroll through all the books you have downloaded to find the one you're currently reading. That could be annoying if you've got a few dozen or more loaded.
I get around both problems by using a third-party reader. But to use it, I have to strip the DRM from the books I own, which is at best a gray area legally.
Most people who read a lot will probably get more out of a stock nook, or better still, a nootered nook. If it's nootered (rooted), you get all the features of the stock reader, as well as the ability to download any number of other applications including Kindle and Overdrive (the library lending app.)

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I would say for you, CM7 internal would be good (remember, you can always put the stock OS back on if you change your mind), and the stock OS best for you wife.
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Thank you very much for the input. Your answers have highlighted the fact that I need to do a lot more research. I am not even sure what the NC can do out of the box. While the wifey will use it primarily as a reader, she also wants to be able to play games and download apps. Can this still be done on the stock OS? Can you install a different browser (opera) on the stock OS? I've seen the term "rooted stock" but haven't read up on it much since I figured I'd just have to root them to do what we both want. I'm guessing "rooted stock" is somewhere between being rooted and keeping the stock OS. Would this allow using the native reader intetface while still allowing access to apps via the Android market? If I can get it so she has a nice browser, can play games (Angry Birds, etc) and keep the native reader (which she really likes) that would be perfect. BTW, before anyone starts yelling "USE THE SEARCH NOON" like they do on some forums I have visited, I know these answers are probably all on this forum somewhere and I am continuing to research on my own. I have been and will be reading a ton of old posts, etc. But, it is also helpful to have one thread to list all of the questions that pop into my head.
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I was new to Android a couple months ago and hesitant to root so I decided to put CM7 on an sdcard. I bought a cheap card and the thing worked but it was agonizingly slow. I bought a Sandisk 8GB class 4 and it works GREAT - very fast. I have never overclocked (haven't gotten the nerve for that yet) and it is very speedy for my needs. I later rooted stock which is what I recommend for your wife. You put a launcher on (I like zeam) and then you have your B&N shelves and access to the Android market as well. BTW, you can also get the Amazon Appstore and check it out daily because they put up a free app every day - very cool.
Good luck with your decision. I love my Nook!

Cool, so it looks like it'll be CM7 for me and nootered for her.
One more question since I have your attention. Is there a way to tether the NC to my Droid X and connect to the internet? My Droid X is totally stock and I have no desire to root it or mod it in any way. I have used PDAnet to tether to my laptop, so I'm looking for something similar to that.
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I can tether my Win Mobile phone (getting an Android phone as soon as my contract runs out!) to my NC. My phone creates an ad hoc connection and I had to make a small change on the Nook to get it to work. I'm pretty sure you will have no problem. Just search and you will find the details specific to your phone.

The only (wireless) tethering you can do WITHOUT rooting is the paid Verizon service. No other wireless rooting will work (all need superuser). I gotta ask though - any reason you don't want to root the X? Its not really anything different from rooting your nook..

Divine_Madcat said:
I gotta ask though - any reason you don't want to root the X? Its not really anything different from rooting your nook..
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I guess it's really just fear. If I brick my phone, I am royally screwed. If I brick the Nook, it would suck, but it's more of a toy anyway. I know it's probably very safe and easy, but I just keep thinking of the horror stories I read when I thought about rooting my Q9m back in the day. That said it is very likely that once I root the Nook, I will end up rooting my phone. Baby steps
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Is it still worth buying a Nook?

Specs-wise, I mean? The community here looks awesome, and the devs look fantastic, but it is 7-month old hardware. I suppose it won't much matter for what I'd be doing with it, but I was curious to get some input.

Pls note that it is a pure eReader that can turn into full tablet.
How will the next gen. NC look? Nobody knows yet.

I just bought one and running CM7 off the SD and love it. I use it as a tablet and have readers on it and don't miss the B&N software but can always take card out and use it for that. I think for $249.00 and you can get like new refurbished ones from B&N for about $200 and I hear they even come with a case, you can not beat the deal. Love the screen! I would buy one again.

I just got mine last Sunday, and it's pretty nice. It really depends on what you plan to do with it. If you want something that you can use with a stylus, then this isn't for you.
If you want to play some Angry Birds, watch netflix, catch the news, take some notes, and do everything your phone can do on a larger screen (minus having a Mic and a phone), then this would be for you.
Specs don't mean jack (to a point) - it's rather what it can do for you.
At a $250 price point at with only slightly lower specs then the Galaxy tab (and less then half the cost) which includes a new B&N membership ($27 discount with B&N membership + $25 for the membership), it's a good deal if it meets your wants/needs.

majorpay said:
I just got mine last Sunday, and it's pretty nice. It really depends on what you plan to do with it. If you want something that you can use with a stylus, then this isn't for you.
If you want to play some Angry Birds, watch netflix, catch the news, take some notes, and do everything your phone can do on a larger screen (minus having a Mic and a phone), then this would be for you.
Specs don't mean jack (to a point) - it's rather what it can do for you.
At a $250 price point at with only slightly lower specs then the Galaxy tab (and less then half the cost) which includes a new B&N membership ($27 discount with B&N membership + $25 for the membership), it's a good deal if it meets your wants/needs.
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I agree for the most part, but the stylus comment is interesting.
I'm using one. Is there a reason you'd not recommend it for stylus?

majorpay said:
I just got mine last Sunday, and it's pretty nice. It really depends on what you plan to do with it. If you want something that you can use with a stylus, then this isn't for you.
If you want to play some Angry Birds, watch netflix, catch the news, take some notes, and do everything your phone can do on a larger screen (minus having a Mic and a phone), then this would be for you.
Specs don't mean jack (to a point) - it's rather what it can do for you.
At a $250 price point at with only slightly lower specs then the Galaxy tab (and less then half the cost) which includes a new B&N membership ($27 discount with B&N membership + $25 for the membership), it's a good deal if it meets your wants/needs.
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Thanks for the thoughts. Actually, I want to read. Mostly. I read a lot of pdfs, and the Kindle can't deal with pdfs well, and it's a pain to have to use a computer. Plus, I love playing around with CM7!

SeaFractor said:
I agree for the most part, but the stylus comment is interesting.
I'm using one. Is there a reason you'd not recommend it for stylus?
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From all my research, the worst issue with this device is the sensitivity of the screen. Even with the sensitivity hacked, it does not perform continuous swipes. So things like drawing and writing (from what I understand) are not all that great on this device.

tekhna said:
Thanks for the thoughts. Actually, I want to read. Mostly. I read a lot of pdfs, and the Kindle can't deal with pdfs well, and it's a pain to have to use a computer. Plus, I love playing around with CM7!
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Then this would sound like your kind of toy. Kindle seems to work well, and so does the Nook app, but I have found that the Nook app has certain books that fail to load (namely a few that come with the download). I haven't looked into the reason for that, but it says "unsupported format." I just haven't cared enough about it to really research that particular issue. Outside of that, it's been pretty impressive for the price.

Hey guys... well for my birthday I'm getting a good amount of $... and need a cheap tablet cuz I want to buy a computor too, my question is, is there something like odin for the galaxy s lines? That makes it basicly unbrickable? And how is the progress with cm7? Is mostly everything working? Thanks guys.
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deano0714 said:
Hey guys... well for my birthday I'm getting a good amount of $... and need a cheap tablet cuz I want to buy a computor too, my question is, is there something like odin for the galaxy s lines? That makes it basicly unbrickable? And how is the progress with cm7? Is mostly everything working? Thanks guys.
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With the NC, you have to try really hard to brick it. If you are worried about bricking, run CM7 from an SDcard. As long as you don't do anything silly like formatting the internal emmc or something, you're safe.
If you choose to go the stock + root, or install CM7 to internal route, you'll end up installing something called ClockworkMod which has the various recovery, backup, flash type things to help prevent bad things.
And status of CM7? CM7 NC edition is what all the vendor *supported* Gingerbread's should be aspiring towards. That's how good it is. *fanboi*
As always, YMMV.

deano0714 said:
Hey guys... well for my birthday I'm getting a good amount of $... and need a cheap tablet cuz I want to buy a computor too, my question is, is there something like odin for the galaxy s lines? That makes it basicly unbrickable? And how is the progress with cm7? Is mostly everything working? Thanks guys.
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Since the nook boots from uSD first (hard wired and coded into the hardware) it is unbrickable...
That being said... always generate images of all partitions prior to messing around with it... there is device specific information stored on mmcblk0p2 and mmcblk0p3... if you lose those partitions and don't have backups... it can get quite interesting restoring it... if you have the backups... its pretty easy.

fuul4nook said:
With the NC, you have to try really hard to brick it. If you are worried about bricking, run CM7 from an SDcard. As long as you don't do anything silly like formatting the internal emmc or something, you're safe.
If you choose to go the stock + root, or install CM7 to internal route, you'll end up installing something called ClockworkMod which has the various recovery, backup, flash type things to help prevent bad things.
And status of CM7? CM7 NC edition is what all the vendor *supported* Gingerbread's should be aspiring towards. That's how good it is. *fanboi*
As always, YMMV.
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Thanks... I'm pretty experiance with android and rooting, I have an epic 4g... hopefully if I get this ill put on cm7 cuz we don't have a working version yet on the epic .... and do you think a refurb would be good for me to get, I want to spend the least amount of $. And would I just walk into b&n and say I want a refurb nook color? Thanks man.
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deano0714 said:
Thanks... I'm pretty experiance with android and rooting, I have an epic 4g... hopefully if I get this ill put on cm7 cuz we don't have a working version yet on the epic .... and do you think a refurb would be good for me to get, I want to spend the least amount of $. And would I just walk into b&n and say I want a refurb nook color? Thanks man.
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I'm seeing them for 200 at Overstock, which means no sales tax either!
http://www.overstock.com/Electronic...oble-Certified-Pre-Owned/5924200/product.html

@deano0714
Most folks have been getting refurbs from the BN store on ebay. AFAIK, those come with a 1yr warranty. My local BN's don't stock refurbs, so I don't know if that's even a possibility.

deano0714 said:
Hey guys... well for my birthday I'm getting a good amount of $... and need a cheap tablet cuz I want to buy a computor too, my question is, is there something like odin for the galaxy s lines? That makes it basicly unbrickable? And how is the progress with cm7? Is mostly everything working? Thanks guys.
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LOL I am coming from the Captivate and on an Infuse....k
It seems its kinda weird how they use some terminology or sometimes don't when compared to phones...
Anyways great great tablet. Rivals any screen I think. Use Nook Tweaks to boost the internal speaker, just do it carefully and Dahlgin's OC Kernel to OC to 1.2Ghz.... Your Tab will like it more.
Use the instructions here. It will allow you to dual boot which is the basic idea. With the instructions, all of CM7 gingerbread runs completely on the SDcard, so all you are corrupting is the SD if you mess something up. Nook Color OS stays untouched!
Also if on Windows 7, use the Win32DiskImager. Recognized my drive better.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000957

slider2828 said:
LOL I am coming from the Captivate and on an Infuse....k
It seems its kinda weird how they use some terminology or sometimes don't when compared to phones...
Anyways great great tablet. Rivals any screen I think. Use Nook Tweaks to boost the internal speaker, just do it carefully and Dahlgin's OC Kernel to OC to 1.2Ghz.... Your Tab will like it more.
Use the instructions here. It will allow you to dual boot which is the basic idea. With the instructions, all of CM7 gingerbread runs completely on the SDcard, so all you are corrupting is the SD if you mess something up. Nook Color OS stays untouched!
Also if on Windows 7, use the Win32DiskImager. Recognized my drive better.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000957
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Will I have to buy a class 10 sd for running on sd?
Edit: also with themeing the nook would I have to change the resoulution if I were to port something over too the nook from the epic? Or would the hdpi be good enough?
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Will I have to buy a class 10 sd for running on sd?
Edit: also with themeing the nook would I have to change the resoulution if I were to port something over too the nook from the epic? Or would the hdpi be good enough?
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Class speeds are not as important as are random read speeds. From what I've read, Sandisk Class 4 is the king here.

Absolutely correct - Actually, the higher the class of card that is used, the more horror stories I hear! Stick with a basic SanDisk class 4 card and you'll be fine.

i felt the same way, op... until MIUI dropped! new love all over again

I would definitely recommend it, along with ezPDF reader if you will be reading a lot of PDFs. From my own experience, it was a pain to get a "good" NC -- the first couple had screen issues/dead pixels and I had to fight with B&N's customer service to finally get one without major issues. Most people seem to get perfect ones right from the start though. Beyond that, CM7 is FAN-TASTIC. I had some random issues with it on a microSD card (an 8gb a-data class 6, so it could have been issues with the card) but it's been super reliable after i installed to emmc. As far as specs go, it will easily overclock and i can't tell a difference in performance compared to my thunderbolt. I've still yet to see a comparable tablet for this price, based on performance and screen quality.

[Q] New Nook HD+ questions

I have a new Nook HD+, upgraded from the Tablet (which I loved), and so far am enjoying it alot. Got a new SanDisk Ultra 64gb micro SDXC I class 10 memory card for it. Have several hundred B&N proprietary books and several hundred bought from other sites including a few really large medical texts and journals that are fairly graphic intense. Can anyone give me any advise regarding setting this up to get the maximun use (the Nook experience) for this card? I am still learning alot and not real computer savvy so use small words.... I see alot of words like Rooting and CM10 and am not sure what all of this means as of yet. Appreciate any and all help I can get and hope this is the correct forum to post this in.
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Pookie

If books and reading are your priority, I would get the Play store up and running so you can install other readers. Generally rooting is for more involved application s and android tweaking. Going to cm10 is really more about a native android tablet experience, May not be important to you. See leapinlars thread in development to install the changes and enjoy!
Ps the reason for the play store is the paucity of apps from b&n
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pookiebr74 said:
I have a new Nook HD+, upgraded from the Tablet (which I loved), and so far am enjoying it alot. Got a new SanDisk Ultra 64gb micro SDXC I class 10 memory card for it. Have several hundred B&N proprietary books and several hundred bought from other sites including a few really large medical texts and journals that are fairly graphic intense. Can anyone give me any advise regarding setting this up to get the maximun use (the Nook experience) for this card? I am still learning alot and not real computer savvy so use small words.... I see alot of words like Rooting and CM10 and am not sure what all of this means as of yet. Appreciate any and all help I can get and hope this is the correct forum to post this in.
Thanks
Pookie
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If you came from the Nook Tablet running stock software and using B&N proprietary books, you probably want to keep running stock B&N on the HD+. So I would recommend you go to my HD/HD+ CWM thread linked in my signature and flash the Gapps + Extras zip with my CWM SD. That way you can enjoy your B&N content and use Play Store to get and install more applications to get the most out of the Android experience.
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If you came from the Nook Tablet running stock software and using B&N proprietary books, you probably want to keep running stock B&N on the HD+. So I would recommend you go to my HD/HD+ CWM thread linked in my signature and flash the Gapps + Extras zip with my CWM SD. That way you can enjoy your B&N content and use Play Store to get and install more applications to get the most out of the Android experience.
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Do I do this to the card on a desktop then mount it to my Nook or mount it to the Nook and download those zips to it there? If I do it to the SD card using the computer and adaptor then, when I mount the card will the Nook want to reformat it or should it just recognize the card/zip? Have a smaller card I may just try it on first to make sure I do it right. If I make an error or have trouble will reformatting the card return it to its initial "state" or would it be ruined and a new one required? I appreciate the information. The instructions seem to be written pretty straight forward so hopefully I wont have any trouble as, previously mentioned, I am somewhat lacking in computer-ese.
Thank you

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Do I do this to the card on a desktop then mount it to my Nook or mount it to the Nook and download those zips to it there? If I do it to the SD card using the computer and adaptor then, when I mount the card will the Nook want to reformat it or should it just recognize the card/zip? Have a smaller card I may just try it on first to make sure I do it right. If I make an error or have trouble will reformatting the card return it to its initial "state" or would it be ruined and a new one required? I appreciate the information. The instructions seem to be written pretty straight forward so hopefully I wont have any trouble as, previously mentioned, I am somewhat lacking in computer-ese.
Thank you
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You do everything on the PC until you are ready to install to the nook. Then you put the card in the nook, boot and a new program will come up automatically. Just follow the directions in the thread.
And you can reuse the card for something else later if you want.
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You do everything on the PC until you are ready to install to the nook. Then you put the card in the nook, boot and a new program will come up automatically. Just follow the directions in the thread.
And you can reuse the card for something else later if you want.
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" I have a second zip which adds Gapps/Play Store and enables Unknown Sources along with setting OTA (Over the Air) updates to manual. You can download my NookHD-HDplus-Gapps+Extras-for-stock-rev1.zip here " <--------So this is the only thing I really need to download and install to the SD card then it would appear correct? This is applicable to both HD and HD+ from what I read?
Will give it a try and see what happens
Thank you

pookiebr74 said:
" I have a second zip which adds Gapps/Play Store and enables Unknown Sources along with setting OTA (Over the Air) updates to manual. You can download my NookHD-HDplus-Gapps+Extras-for-stock-rev1.zip here " <--------So this is the only thing I really need to download and install to the SD card then it would appear correct? This is applicable to both HD and HD+ from what I read?
Will give it a try and see what happens
Thank you
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You need to download the file and copy it to the card. Then insert the card in the nook and boot. The CWM program will come up and your have to choose install zip from SD. The rest of the directions are in the cyanogenmod recovery section of that thread. Just follow the instructions there. When done you take the card out and boot back to stock and you have Play Store that you can use to install even more apps.
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soft keys and notification
how do i get the soft keys on cm10 nook hd+ to be seperate from the status bar?
i want to have the status bar on the top and the soft keys on bottom just like on the nexus 10.
and are there any ports for miui and aokp for the nook hd+ dual boot?

Zachinater said:
how do i get the soft keys on cm10 nook hd+ to be seperate from the status bar?
i want to have the status bar on the top and the soft keys on bottom just like on the nexus 10.
and are there any ports for miui and aokp for the nook hd+ dual boot?
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CM10 (Android 4.1) has three graphical interfaces. Phone, tablet and phablet. Phone for small devices, tablet for big devices and phablet for medium devices. The interface is controlled mostly by screen density and size. The tablet has the single combined navigation/status bar at the bottom. The other two have the split controls like you want. When Android went to 4.2 it did away with the tablet interface, so that is what you probably saw on the Nexus 10. To make the HD+ running CM10 move to the split phablet interface you need to raise the lcd density in /system/build.prop. The default for the HD+ is 240. You need to raise that to get to phablet. I don't know the exact figure. I know 300 is phablet. Or you could just switch to CM10.1 (4.2).
And CM10/CM10.1 are the only alternate ROMs for the HD+.
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thanks
leapinlar said:
CM10 (Android 4.1) has three graphical interfaces. Phone, tablet and phablet. Phone for small devices, tablet for big devices and phablet for medium devices. The interface is controlled mostly by screen density and size. The tablet has the single combined navigation/status bar at the bottom. The other two have the split controls like you want. When Android went to 4.2 it did away with the tablet interface, so that is what you probably saw on the Nexus 10. To make the HD+ running CM10 move to the split phablet interface you need to raise the lcd density in /system/build.prop. The default for the HD+ is 240. You need to raise that to get to phablet. I don't know the exact figure. I know 300 is phablet. Or you could just switch to CM10.1 (4.2).
And CM10/CM10.1 are the only alternate ROMs for the HD+.
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thanks for the help. any ideas on when the next update for cm10.1 will be out. i want to switch but i want a more stable version.
and how do i switch the kernal on cm10 nook hd+ to one that can overclock?
thanks

Zachinater said:
and how do i switch the kernal on cm10 nook hd+ to one that can overclock?
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You can't. There is not one available.
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leapinlar said:
You can't. There is not one available.
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Do you think there will ever be any kernels other than stock on the HD/HD+?
Your wealth of knowledge and helpfullness is awesome; and for that, I thank you.

codya321 said:
Do you think there will ever be any kernels other than stock on the HD/HD+?
Your wealth of knowledge and helpfullness is awesome; and for that, I thank you.
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Yes, will be ... if anyone start work on this ... or current dev's have time for this. HD+ is so new ... and actually little bit specific and not common item.

[Q] HDMI & CM 10.2 9/14 nightly

I am thinking about buying the hdmi cable for my Nook HD and before I do I was wondering if anyone is using it with CM 10.2?
Or do I need to go back to 10.1?
Thank you
Mark

I guess no one has tried hdmi with CM10.2 yet
CM 10.2 is working flawless right now so will wait until I hear if hdmi will be supported at all.
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I have used the HDMI cable with an n2a card. The moment that I made the connection the screen turned black and the nookhd+ did a reset to native nook mode. So it seems only to work in that mode.
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RuudSnikkenburg said:
I have used the HDMI cable with an n2a card. The moment that I made the connection the screen turned black and the nookhd+ did a reset to native nook mode. So it seems only to work in that mode.
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what's an n2a card? I presume that is not the B&N adaptor right?

An n2a card is a commercialy available sd card with android version 4.2 on it.
I don't use it anymore because stock NookHD+ works fine for me.
Since the Google appstore is on it I don't see the need to fiddle with it.
In other threads I saw posts that the HDMI works with rooted HD+ but with some flaws..

I got two responses to this question when I posted in the 10.2 thread. Two "it works" comments using the B&N HDMI product.

m509272 said:
I got two responses to this question when I posted in the 10.2 thread. Two "it works" comments using the B&N HDMI product.
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Thank you very much. I must have missed that posting.
:thumbup:
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Picked up the hdmi adapter at local Wal-Mart on clearance for $15.99, great price, if they had more then the one I bought, I would have grabbed more at that price.
It works fine with CM 10.2
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snoozer854 said:
Picked up the hdmi adapter at local Wal-Mart on clearance for $15.99, great price, if they had more then the one I bought, I would have grabbed more at that price.
It works fine with CM 10.2
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thanks for your report! both video and audio are fine? no lags or dropped frames on the screen? I read that cm 10.2 does not disable the nook screen while playing and that can cause slow response
thanks!
PD off topic: how's battery life on cm?

Guiyoforward said:
thanks for your report! both video and audio are fine? no lags or dropped frames on the screen? I read that cm 10.2 does not disable the nook screen while playing and that can cause slow response
thanks!
PD off topic: how's battery life on cm?
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It would be nice if the screen would turn off when hooked up, but that isn't that big of a deal to me.
As far as lag, when I use the ABC or CBS app I get no lag, but when using Crackle I do see some lag every so often, but it isn't enough to get worried about.
I do have I guess what is considered a slow internet speed compared to most, 3 megs download, if it was higher I don't see lag as being a problem, "of course your mileage may vary" would like to update my speed, but live on a fixed income & it works for me.
I think the battery time is much better then stock was, but of course when hooked up to the tv I have it plugged in. I have never actually kept track time wise on how long the battery time is.
Hope this was some help to you
Mark

snoozer854 said:
It would be nice if the screen would turn off when hooked up, but that isn't that big of a deal to me.
As far as lag, when I use the ABC or CBS app I get no lag, but when using Crackle I do see some lag every so often, but it isn't enough to get worried about.
I do have I guess what is considered a slow internet speed compared to most, 3 megs download, if it was higher I don't see lag as being a problem, "of course your mileage may vary" would like to update my speed, but live on a fixed income & it works for me.
I think the battery time is much better then stock was, but of course when hooked up to the tv I have it plugged in. I have never actually kept track time wise on how long the battery time is.
Hope this was some help to you
Mark
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I only stream using netflix and the HDMI adapter and from my experience, Stock 2.1.1 streams netflix flawlessly while using cm 10.1.3, there are stutters, temporary video lockups and etc. That is why I now have cm10.1.3 on emmc and Stock 2.1.1 on an SD card. I use CM for most of my tablet experience, then boot to stock 2.1.1 to read my magazines and newspapers and watch netflix. BTW, same issues with cm10.2 when I had that on emmc.
I do not know if the same issue exists with Crackle, HuluPlus, etc as I have not tried those. But for me, Stock is the only way to stream Netflix to my Sammy PDP without any issues. YMMV

[Q] General Help and Discussion needed...

Greetings,
I recently just purchased some Nook HD+ tablets and am new to the Android platform. I have yet to open the Nooks. I have spent the past two nights reading here about how to root, sideload, and other similar topics. I have gathered a small bit of understanding from the readings in my free time but I am now ready to get serious and would like a few questions answered before I begin, just to help me grasp it all completely. Once, I have these few basic questions out of the way, then I'll really get into deciding on a route to take and see whats best for me. I understand some would rather say "read this" and just redirect me but if you post, for the sake of discussion please entertain my questions.
1) Does the B&N stock android software offer any advantages, even if only one, (specific app, or feature) over custom android software? Out the box is it like stock Android 4.0.3 with B&N overlay similar to *Sense or is it B&N software through and through like Fire OS?
2) I have seen two "groups" N2A and another which I forget at the moment, that offer pre-made image files for download or MicroSD cards for purchase. Are these all the same files no matter where they come from or are they unique? Are all variations of CyanogenMod or are they from the ground up different? What is the significance of using one over the other?
3) Lastly, is there a very plain (vanilla) stock Android 4.4.2 for Nook HD+ that would be like virtually getting it from Google themselves? I'm talking from bootscreen to features and functions. Or all roms will have some sort of custom "branding" in them?
Thank you for helping me get started. I am sure I'll have more questions as this thread develops. Again, I appreciate any kindness offered.

1. There are only a couple of advantages of the stock OS besides being very stable. You have access to the B&N store apps if you made prior purchases on other devices. But the biggest advantage for some users is the reader app. It is better and smoother than the Nook reader app for Android. Plus it will read children's interactive books and Nook for Android app will not. The OS is pretty much Android with a B&N interface overlaid and replacing Google's. I don't know how to compare to Sense or FireOS since I have never seen either. But some things are totally different than Google, for instance in settings there is no Enable Unknown Sources setting.
2. The pre-made images are exactly the same as you get here. The only differences are that they do the work for you and furnish the SD cards.
3. There are several ROMs here that tweak the interface, but most are just variations of CM. You will have to research them yourself.
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So far so good...
Thanks...
Is there anyway to get the updated 4.4.2 rom with the B&N overlay so that you get the B&N store or thats not possible? Also similar question for the Reader app itself? Has it been transported or is development in process on transporting it. Or is that not going to happen either.
I have no prior purchases from B&N and don't foresee me buying any in the future as I can convert my own files from purchases elsewhere. So I'm leaning toward updating. I see different variations of the updated rom. Is there a way to install the rom direct to the device, therefore leaving the MicroSD card slot free to use as storage? Or is that not recommended because it erases the Stock OS. Is running the OS directly from the device or from the MicroSD card more stable? Just general knowledge about CPUs and data transfers, I would imagine running the OS from the MicroSD card drains the battery a bit more and would exhibit some lag in comparison to running directly from the device internally, or is this not a problem?

ecsjr said:
Thanks...
Is there anyway to get the updated 4.4.2 rom with the B&N overlay so that you get the B&N store or thats not possible? Also similar question for the Reader app itself? Has it been transported or is development in process on transporting it. Or is that not going to happen either.
I have no prior purchases from B&N and don't foresee me buying any in the future as I can convert my own files from purchases elsewhere. So I'm leaning toward updating. I see different variations of the updated rom. Is there a way to install the rom direct to the device, therefore leaving the MicroSD card slot free to use as storage? Or is that not recommended because it erases the Stock OS. Is running the OS directly from the device or from the MicroSD card more stable? Just general knowledge about CPUs and data transfers, I would imagine running the OS from the MicroSD card drains the battery a bit more and would exhibit some lag in comparison to running directly from the device internally, or is this not a problem?
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For the first two questions, no and no.
Yes if you look at the dummies guide linked in my signature there are directions there for installing to internal memory. But even if you install to SD it is pretty stable and the part of the SD not used for the operating system is available for storage. There is really no difference on battery or lag. And your warranty is intact. Just pop out the card and stock is not affected. That said, I use CM10.1.3 on internal memory and love it.
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Almost done...
If I do install to internal memory, I lose my warranty? Is there a way to re-install B&N stock OS if I need my warranty later?
When choosing to run from the MicroSD can you see the files that are on the internal Nook memory or is it non-existent?
Also, Is it still relevant to use older slower MicroSD cards, or has the process improved over time and cured this? I happen to have a 32GB Sandisk Extreme laying around and want to know if It's necessary to go out and buy a new Sandisk 32GB Class 4. I've found some for about $18 from reputable retailers so not a problem but I do have the 32GB Extreme laying here lol.
Backing up to a question before... Do all the roms have a custom boot screen and "branding" or is there one available that would be vanilla android 4.4.2?

ecsjr said:
If I do install to internal memory, I lose my warranty? Is there a way to re-install B&N stock OS if I need my warranty later?
When choosing to run from the MicroSD can you see the files that are on the internal Nook memory or is it non-existent?
Also, Is it still relevant to use older slower MicroSD cards, or has the process improved over time and cured this? I happen to have a 32GB Sandisk Extreme laying around and want to know if It's necessary to go out and buy a new Sandisk 32GB Class 4. I've found some for about $18 from reputable retailers so not a problem but I do have the 32GB Extreme laying here lol.
Backing up to a question before... Do all the roms have a custom boot screen and "branding" or is there one available that would be vanilla android 4.4.2?
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First questions. Yes and yes.
And I don't known what you mean by non-existent. All files can be seen with root file managers.
And yes old slower cards are still best. But you can try that extreme and see how it works.
And all replacement ROMs show the 'cyanoboot' logo on booting if that is what you mean (the Nook has a locked bootloader so 'nook' always shows too). No pure vanilla. And 4.4.2 is still too cutting edge in my view. Stick with 4.2 (CM10.1) or 4.3 (CM10.2) .
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I truly appreciate the chat...
Thanks,
When I get home today, I'm going to update the Nook HD+ using your guide in the signature. It all seems relatively straightforward. I'll comeback to post my conclusions and any further questions I may have. But thank you.

Charged up...
Ok so I'm charged up and power on the device, register it and get the Update notification:
I am on ver. 2.1.1, if I choose to update the stock OS to the latest version will that have any affect on me later deciding to update to CM?

ecsjr said:
Ok so I'm charged up and power on the device, register it and get the Update notification:
I am on ver. 2.1.1, if I choose to update the stock OS to the latest version will that have any affect on me later deciding to update to CM?
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No, as long as you registration it with B&N before you put CM on it, it does not matter what version you had on it. I don't believe it, but others have commented that it gets harder to boot from SD once you have put 2.2.0 on it.
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Got it..
Thanks.

Universal root...
In the Guide I see Universal Root Rev0 and Rev3 both sound similar to what I think I want to do, just don't know which to pick? I'm running B&N Stock and want to be able to install .apk from unknown sources leaving everything else pretty much untouched.

ecsjr said:
In the Guide I see Universal Root Rev0 and Rev3 both sound similar to what I think I want to do, just don't know which to pick? I'm running B&N Stock and want to be able to install .apk from unknown sources leaving everything else pretty much untouched.
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Rev0 is outdated and not even available anymore. But you don't need to root at all to just to enable unknown sources. Just flash the zip. Root is not necessary.
BTW, what guide are you talking about? The Dummies Guide does not mention Universal Root. Do you mean my HD/HD+ CWM thread?
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Update and some questions...lol
So I have CM 10.2.1-ovation running on internal Nook HD+ using this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317500. I noticed the Recovery menu is 6.0.2.8... Is is necessary to update this to the newer 6.0.3.6? What are the differences? Even if not, can you point me in the right direction, if not willing to explain how to get it updated?
Moving on...
I have my backup of B&N stock saved.
I used my Sandisk 32GB Extreme Plus microSDHC card and didn't encounter any errors to my knowledge lol.
I guess thats pretty much it, its done.
A few questions about the platform, apps, whats important vs not, etc...
1) I have apps spread out across the 4 or so blades. Coming from iOS platform, I usually ONLY use another blade if current one is full. Is there a reason why some apps are on first blade vs middle blade? Is there a reason why the media widget is on the desktop, etc? Am I free to remove these any way I want? What about the bottom dock/home buttons there are three I believe. The Gmail, Browser, and something else I forget, I think contacts. Can you touch on this area.
2) Certain apps like gmail, google+, Apollo, Voice dialer, whisper push all seem unnecessary to me as I do not use them or know what they are used for yet. Can you elaborate their usage. Can these be uninstalled, or removed in any way. I of course would like to keep the Google Play store.
3) The clock and date on the homescreen, is that a third-party widget or is that the Stock Android system? Is the customizable (font and size) without a third-party app or is it only like this?
4) I am looking for the ESPN SportsCenter app and noticed it's not compatible with my device. It says it's for Phones only. If I am able to find the .apk will Android allow for me to install on the Nook even though it's not a Phone it's a tablet?

ecsjr said:
So I have CM 10.2.1-ovation running on internal Nook HD+ using this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317500. I noticed the Recovery menu is 6.0.2.8... Is is necessary to update this to the newer 6.0.3.6? What are the differences? Even if not, can you point me in the right direction, if not willing to explain how to get it updated?
Moving on...
I have my backup of B&N stock saved.
I used my Sandisk 32GB Extreme Plus microSDHC card and didn't encounter any errors to my knowledge lol.
I guess thats pretty much it, its done.
A few questions about the platform, apps, whats important vs not, etc...
1) I have apps spread out across the 4 or so blades. Coming from iOS platform, I usually ONLY use another blade if current one is full. Is there a reason why some apps are on first blade vs middle blade? Is there a reason why the media widget is on the desktop, etc? Am I free to remove these any way I want? What about the bottom dock/home buttons there are three I believe. The Gmail, Browser, and something else I forget, I think contacts. Can you touch on this area.
2) Certain apps like gmail, google+, Apollo, Voice dialer, whisper push all seem unnecessary to me as I do not use them or know what they are used for yet. Can you elaborate their usage. Can these be uninstalled, or removed in any way. I of course would like to keep the Google Play store.
3) The clock and date on the homescreen, is that a third-party widget or is that the Stock Android system? Is the customizable (font and size) without a third-party app or is it only like this?
4) I am looking for the ESPN SportsCenter app and noticed it's not compatible with my device. It says it's for Phones only. If I am able to find the .apk will Android allow for me to install on the Nook even though it's not a Phone it's a tablet?
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You are jumping all over the place. Your previous question was for applying root to stock and enabling unknown sources. Now you have installed CM10.2.1.
No, you do not need to update that 6028.
And the rest of your questions are specific to CM10.2 now. You are best asking those questions in the CM10.2 thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2389813
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Sorry about that...
leapinlar said:
You are jumping all over the place. Your previous question was for applying root to stock and enabling unknown sources. Now you have installed CM10.2.1.
No, you do not need to update that 6028.
And the rest of your questions are specific to CM10.2 now. You are best asking those questions in the CM10.2 thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2389813
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I'm working on two separate tablets... I kept one stock and the other CM.

Back with more...
So far all is well on the Nook HD+ with CM 10.2.1... I appreciate your guide link and help.
Now with the Nook HD+ that is on Stock B&N. To enable Unknown Sources leaving the B&N stock, earlier you use the phrase "Flash the zip" is all I need to do. Can you explain a bit more what that means or any pointer is helpful. Thank you.

ecsjr said:
So far all is well on the Nook HD+ with CM 10.2.1... I appreciate your guide link and help.
Now with the Nook HD+ that is on Stock B&N. To enable Unknown Sources leaving the B&N stock, earlier you use the phrase "Flash the zip" is all I need to do. Can you explain a bit more what that means or any pointer is helpful. Thank you.
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Get the zip from my HD/HD+ CWM thread (item 3). Boot to CWM and install (flash) the zip just like you did the CM zip on the other device. It changes a hidden setting in stock to allow you to install applications from sources other than the Nook Store or Play Store.
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leapinlar said:
Get the zip from my HD/HD+ CWM thread (item 3). Boot to CWM and install (flash) the zip just like you did the CM zip on the other device. It changes a hidden setting in stock to allow you to install applications from sources other than the Nook Store or Play Store.
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Perfect thanks.
UPDATE: Using Root Explorer. Any recommendations of a better file manager, I like Root Explorer, just new to the platform so I don't really know what else is good? Also, what is the process for returning my now 4GB mSD to its full 32GB? Thank you for all the help.

ecsjr said:
Perfect thanks.
UPDATE: Using Root Explorer. Any recommendations of a better file manager, I like Root Explorer, just new to the platform so I don't really know what else is good? Also, what is the process for returning my now 4GB mSD to its full 32GB? Thank you for all the help.
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Root Explorer is the best.
And you should not have used a 32GB SD as your CWM SD. You should have used a relatively small 4-8Gb SD so you can keep it for future use. You WILL need it again. That said, you can return it to 32Gb by using the program SDFormatter free on the web.
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Switching cards
leapinlar said:
Root Explorer is the best.
And you should not have used a 32GB SD as your CWM SD. You should have used a relatively small 4-8Gb SD so you can keep it for future use. You WILL need it again. That said, you can return it to 32Gb by using the program SDFormatter free on the web.
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My first complete backup and wipe for the CM10.2.1 tablet isn't mine and I will no longer need that full CM10.2.1 setup. However I did use that card to flash the zip on the Stock B&N because I felt it was easier to follow your instructions that way... Now for future reference, I do have a small 2GB card I wanted to use following this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2062613 method under "1a" to make a small CWM to simply flash the Stock B&N in the future. Is this possible? Or does it always have to be 4GB?