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childs gift and rooting

i purchased 2 nook tablets for an 8 and 11 year old. im debating whether to not root it because i think it wil be easier for them to follow interface and the only downside i see is having to pay for apps that may be free on amazon or play store. can i have some input here? is there a super easy rooted rom that a child can follow? or are there many free aps if i just keep it as an out of box nook. thanks so much guys

Rooting by someone()'s All-in-one at the Nook HD, HD+ General section works great for me as it is very easy. The HD+ still works like the original and at the same time can use apps from Play Store (or side load). Only if you want B&N updates it could mean losing your root, but as someone() disabled automatic updates you can wait with updating until others have checked the effects of the updates.
Getting ADB working is the most difficult part. I already had a so called 8bootloop, restoring the original software after experimenting a bit too much, but within half an hour I got it all working again. B&N profiles were updated after logging in, even the profile I already made for my daughter was available. Just my view, more experience users may correct me.

gorelow said:
i purchased 2 nook tablets for an 8 and 11 year old. im debating whether to not root it because i think it wil be easier for them to follow interface and the only downside i see is having to pay for apps that may be free on amazon or play store. can i have some input here? is there a super easy rooted rom that a child can follow? or are there many free aps if i just keep it as an out of box nook. thanks so much guys
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Do you mean Nook Tablets or Nook HD or HD+? They are different devices.
Sent from my NookColor running CM10 on SD using Tapatalk.

If all you are looking for is apps, you can side load without rooting, just load on your machine then adb install. I find s lot of free apps don't even show up for tablet, but I copy over from my phone and adb install them, usually without problem
Ps, you can also load a different launcher of course....
Sent from my BNTV600 using xda app-developers app

i was actually talking about the original nook tablet. i didnt know you could sideload without rooting. does that mean i also dont have to block the otas? thanks

gorelow said:
i was actually talking about the original nook tablet. i didnt know you could sideload without rooting. does that mean i also dont have to block the otas? thanks
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Yep we are all hd folk here, can't speak to the tablet, but so far the ota hasn't borked us. And once adb is working, you can side load anything as long as it doesn't touch /system. Including a launcher which is highly recommended since the b&n launcher won't show all the apps easily.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda app-developers app

gorelow said:
i was actually talking about the original nook tablet. i didnt know you could sideload without rooting. does that mean i also dont have to block the otas? thanks
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If you can get ADB working on your nook tablet you should be able to sideload apps without rooting. And they should be safe if B&N sends an update to the ROM. But you might get better advice by posting in the Nook Tablet forum. Users there know more about the Tablet.
Sent from my Nook HD+ Running CM10 on SD

leapinlar said:
If you can get ADB working on your nook tablet you should be able to sideload apps without rooting. And they should be safe if B&N sends an update to the ROM. But you might get better advice by posting in the Nook Tablet forum. Users there know more about the Tablet.
Sent from my Nook HD+ Running CM10 on SD
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sorry didnt realize tis wasnt the reg nook forum thanks

Is Cyanogen 10.1 ~ Is It Worth It?

I don't mean to sound uninformed, but I see conflicting reports over whether it's truly worth the performance gains relative to some issues with things such as static wallpapers, video, etc.
Can anyone chime in based on their own experiences?
Thanks in advance!

jfenton57 said:
I don't mean to sound uninformed, but I see conflicting reports over whether it's truly worth the performance gains relative to some issues with things such as static wallpapers, video, etc.
Can anyone chime in based on their own experiences?
Thanks in advance!
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The short answer is: Yes, it's worth it. The difference between stock 2.1 and either Cyanogenmod 10.1 or Carbon is like night and day. Just being able to configure the homescreens the way you want is worth the small effort to install a new recovery and ROM on the HD+. You get a whole range of options of how you interact with your tablet (PIE, HALO, ribbons, etc.).
I've installed both CM10.1 and Carbon and prefer Carbon, but that's more of a personal thing. One nice thing is that my Galaxy Nexus is on Carbon, so I have just one interface for both of my mobile devices.

If you are not sure if you want to change the Nook, download the SDCard only version of CM10.1 it works great and will not touch your installed system.

jfenton57 said:
I don't mean to sound uninformed, but I see conflicting reports over whether it's truly worth the performance gains relative to some issues with things such as static wallpapers, video, etc.
Can anyone chime in based on their own experiences?
Thanks in advance!
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Oh GOD yes!!! I just did it to my Plus and L♥VE it. I used this [NookHD+] CM10.1 native emmc install updated 07/06 but [NOOK HD/HD+] Installing CyanogenMod 10.1 for Dummies is also easy to follow.
It makes the device so much easier to use. Its like my Galaxy Note 2 but bigger and I can now install the tablet app versions of the apps I have like SketchBook Pro. Win,win. :victory: The only two apps I lost were the Nook and Starbucks. Since my main reading app is Moon+ Reader Pro I didn't care and only sideloaded the Nook app to see if I could. I pay for my coffee with the Starbucks app on my phone so I don't need it on the Plus.
Just read through everything a few times until you're comfortable. It takes about 30 minutes or less.
I actually installed it twice because I wasn't feeling well the first time and was frustrated with the stock, it took wayyyyy to long. So the next day I reverted back to stock and did it again. Just to be sure (you know friends are going to ask me to root theirs). Honestly, easy peasy.
Once you do it you will wonder why you waited so long.
Now if I can get them to add the screen navigation buttons like I have on my Note 2, to get from screen to screen without swiping, I would be really happy. (hint, hint)

It took me two days before I setup the hybrid version. After a week or so I installed Carbon. It's great. My daughter left her's stock. I have no desire to return. Do the SD boot and check it out.
Sent from my KFTT using Tapatalk 2

jfenton57 said:
I don't mean to sound uninformed, but I see conflicting reports over whether it's truly worth the performance gains relative to some issues with things such as static wallpapers, video, etc.
Can anyone chime in based on their own experiences?
Thanks in advance!
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If you ask me CM 10.1 makes the Nook HD worth having, It runs as well, there are a few minor bugs in the scheme of things with none a show stopper, battery life is good, performance is good, movies music all play well, the Nook App still works plus you get the full tablet experience and customization. I have no plans to ever return to stock, unless a warranty situation arrives. I am running CM 10.1 in emmc, I never even bothered with running it on an SD card first. I had my nook less than a day before I put CM 10.1 on it.

jfenton57 said:
I don't mean to sound uninformed, but I see conflicting reports over whether it's truly worth the performance gains relative to some issues with things such as static wallpapers, video, etc.
Can anyone chime in based on their own experiences?
Thanks in advance!
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For myself, the answer is definitely a yes. It has much more functionalities after flashing to cm10.1. However, if you are only interested in reading book, web-browsing and sending emails. It may not be a bad idea to keep the stock rom as it's more stable and power efficient.

i was quite hesitant to do the cyangen mod because i had no experience with android devices. i started with sd card and then took the leap to native install.
benefits:
all google play apps
automatic backup of all to google
quick updating to new verions without losing any data
you can still download the nook app if you want
in short - it's great. don't bother with the dual boot solution.
especially now since the hd+ is being phased out by b&n - a versatile android os on top of good hardware is the way to go.

It is definitely worth it. I had stock os with "app from outside source enabled" mod on it for a while to test drive it. I had alot of my apps from Amazon store so I wanted to make sure everything was ok. Since this solution was great, it still felt a little bit limited so I said to myself, why not just go all the way since I was keeping it.
I did it and never looked back.

For those who've mentioned Carbon, is it available for the HD as well?
I've got the CM10.1 hummingbird ROM running off sdcard on my HD; I was going to install it to internal today but if Carbon is available for HD I'll test it out first.

MonaLisaOverdrive said:
For those who've mentioned Carbon, is it available for the HD as well?
I've got the CM10.1 hummingbird ROM running off sdcard on my HD; I was going to install it to internal today but if Carbon is available for HD I'll test it out first.
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If you look in the development forum you will see carbon is available for both HD and HD+ on emmc.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.

Well, the thing is that everybody that repliesyhere will tell you it's worth it. Most stock users don't really read this
I have tried both and got back to stock as it was good enough for what I do with the hd+. I just added the nova launcher so it feels like any other tablet and it has all the options I need.
I'm not saying that cm or cb afe bad or anything but I'm happy with my stock+nova launcher
Sent from my BNTV600 using Tapatalk 2

leapinlar said:
If you look in the development forum you will see carbon is available for both HD and HD+ on emmc.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
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Yeah...I found v8 of the ROM after the two+ hour search/parse forums yesterday. Basically had enough time to install it and do some basic configuration before I collapsed, so I forgot to come back and delete this post .
On the plus side, sleep battery life is excellent! Unplugged the Nook immediately after installing the ROM and syncing my main Google account. It dropped 6% while I was configuring some apps and settings, but did not drop at all while in sleep mode overnight.
Now time to start researching, then testing and building . Would anyone be interested in a working Scheme interpreter or nano editor?

I would love to see nano
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda app-developers app

testlab said:
Well, the thing is that everybody that repliesyhere will tell you it's worth it. Most stock users don't really read this
I have tried both and got back to stock as it was good enough for what I do with the hd+. I just added the nova launcher so it feels like any other tablet and it has all the options I need.
I'm not saying that cm or cb afe bad or anything but I'm happy with my stock+nova launcher
Sent from my BNTV600 using Tapatalk 2
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I was a stock user with Nova for a week and found it too limited. I guess it depends what you want to do with it.

I sometimes run Stock from an SD card on my HD+. When running stock, you can access all your apps without another launcher. From the Apps screen simultaneously touch "Apps" and hold down Vol down.
Sent from my HD+ Running CM 10.1 from emmc

[Q] How to keep stock Nook HD+ reader app after installing CM10.1?

Hey guys, I am about to root and install CM10.1 on my new Nook HD+. However, I absolutely hate the Nook app that comes in the Play Store and would like to keep the stock HD+ reader app for my ebooks as I read a lot and like it so much better. Is there a way to do this, like apply just a root to the stock ROM and copy the APK over or something like that?
Looking forward to all replies,
Chris

xPisces said:
Hey guys, I am about to root and install CM10.1 on my new Nook HD+. However, I absolutely hate the Nook app that comes in the Play Store and would like to keep the stock HD+ reader app for my ebooks as I read a lot and like it so much better. Is there a way to do this, like apply just a root to the stock ROM and copy the APK over or something like that?
Looking forward to all replies,
Chris
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Nope. The stock nook app will not run on CM. The only thing you can do is dual boot. That is, put stock or CM on internal memory and stock or CM on SD. You can do it either way.
Sent from my BN NookHD+ using XDA Premium HD app

Running the stock Android version of the Nook Reader might not be an issue anyway; apparently you can't even get it to run without sideloading it.
Of course, since I cracked all my Nook books so I could read them in a generic reader app, it's not really much of an issue for me.

leapinlar said:
Nope. The stock nook app will not run on CM. The only thing you can do is dual boot. That is, put stock or CM on internal memory and stock or CM on SD. You can do it either way.
Sent from my BN NookHD+ using XDA Premium HD app
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So the only thing I can pretty much do is get an eReader app from the Play Store to read my books? Which one do you think is best and do you use?
Thanks for thr help,
Chris

xPisces said:
So the only thing I can pretty much do is get an eReader app from the Play Store to read my books? Which one do you think is best and do you use?
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Two of the better ones are Aldiko and Moon+. Both have free and premium versions. Note that if you're using Calibre to strip the DRM, you could just as easily convert them into mobi format while you're at it and read them with the Kindle reader, too.

Robotech_Master said:
Two of the better ones are Aldiko and Moon+. Both have free and premium versions. Note that if you're using Calibre to strip the DRM, you could just as easily convert them into mobi format while you're at it and read them with the Kindle reader, too.
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I want to second Aldiko. I have been using it for years now. The best part is there is an Aldiko Sync app that will use dropbox to keep your library and more importantly your POSITION in your books synced across MULTIPLE devices. Takes a little setup but once done you can seamlessly jump from tablet to phone to your other tablet and back. As long as you leave the reader app, by time you can pick up the other device its been updated via sync!.

xPisces said:
So the only thing I can pretty much do is get an eReader app from the Play Store to read my books? Which one do you think is best and do you use?
Thanks for thr help,
Chris
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I use a combination of Calibre Companion and Overdrive Media Console. After using Calibre Companion to pull the books from my PC over WiFi, opening them from that app gives the choice of which epub reader to open it with. Overdrive will show up in the list and import the book flawlessly (typically it is only intended to import Adobe DRMed epubs from public library sites). I find that Overdrive is the best epub reader next to the stock Nook reader, followed by the Nook app. Note that this method relies on your epubs not having any DRM. Slickpub is a new epub reader that is very fast and simple but is not quite there yet. Fabrik is another excellent reader, but it's very slow. You can install the Nook app from the 1Mobile market (which you will have to download from their website, it's not in the Play Store).

I too would like to run the nook reader in CM. Some of the decent alternatives include fbreader, alreader, coolreader, moonreader, and aldiko (don't judge them by the defaults, which range from bad to completely insane).
My current method of selecting books is to use ES File Explorer to locate the book and create a shortcut.

I downloaded the Nook apk provided in this thread, works on my HD, I'm on Slimbean.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1294967
Sent from my BN NookHD+ using xda app-developers app

Just had to post here again. Even though you still can't use Play Books to read epubs stored on your device, I just discovered you can now upload epubs to Play Books and then they will show up in your Play Books library. Still a pretty basic reader but better than most. Still debating whether or not I want to upload my entire library to Play.

Any change in status?
Gosh, so close to rooting my nook, and pretty much the only thing I like about it is its E-Reader ability... so no change in status on this? No way to keep the native reader after installing CM 10.1 or 10.2?

gregorcarbine said:
Gosh, so close to rooting my nook, and pretty much the only thing I like about it is its E-Reader ability... so no change in status on this? No way to keep the native reader after installing CM 10.1 or 10.2?
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Nope, but you can put stock OS and ereader on SD and CM on emmc and boot to SD when you want to read.
Sent from my BN NookHD+ using XDA Premium HD app

That sounds like winning to me!
Thanks Leap! That's a great idea, I had been considering installing CM to SD, but never actually considered the reverse of that and from what I've read CM is more stable on eMMc. Is there a link to a particular guide, or would I just insert the Stock install in place of a CM install from one of the tutorials for setting it up on SD card? Also, I've been debating just rooting, and adding the ability to install unknown apk's from one of your other tutorials. What is your opinion on that option?
Also, I maybe over analyze these situations, but one of the video tutorials I watched which seemed to be thorough and effective recommended not just doing a factory reset but also wiping the cache and the dalvic/k? cache, before installing CM... is that a correct process, overkill, or something that could cause problems down the line? I ask because I never read anything about doing that in your CM 10.1/10.2 post. Thanks again for your time and info. Have a great day!
P.S. After trying to become more effective on my own I finally found the Stock from SD link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2330083 <--- There it is for anyone else who may have the same interest as I do
Thanks again Leap! P.S... can I use your universal root rev3 to root stock on sd? I know you had a link to old extras to allow outside apk's for stock on sd, just curious.

gregorcarbine said:
Thanks Leap! That's a great idea, I had been considering installing CM to SD, but never actually considered the reverse of that and from what I've read CM is more stable on eMMc. Is there a link to a particular guide, or would I just insert the Stock install in place of a CM install from one of the tutorials for setting it up on SD card? Also, I've been debating just rooting, and adding the ability to install unknown apk's from one of your other tutorials. What is your opinion on that option?
Also, I maybe over analyze these situations, but one of the video tutorials I watched which seemed to be thorough and effective recommended not just doing a factory reset but also wiping the cache and the dalvic/k? cache, before installing CM... is that a correct process, overkill, or something that could cause problems down the line? I ask because I never read anything about doing that in your CM 10.1/10.2 post. Thanks again for your time and info. Have a great day!
P.S. After trying to become more effective on my own I finally found the Stock from SD link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2330083 <--- There it is for anyone else who may have the same interest as I do
Thanks again Leap! P.S... can I use your universal root rev3 to root stock on sd? I know you had a link to old extras to allow outside apk's for stock on sd, just curious.
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If you read the instructions on that thread verygreen tells you how to root it as part of installing. Do not use the universal root. But you can use the extras I made for stock on SD.
And you do not need to wipe dalvik and cache in addition to factory reseting. The factory reset already wipes both.
Sent from my BN NookHD+ using XDA Premium HD app

Thanks a ton!
You have been extremely awesome in helping me mentally prepare to enter the wonderful world of modding my Nook HD+. Just tons of information here so it's really helped to have someone provide some feedback! Thanks again!

gregorcarbine said:
Gosh, so close to rooting my nook, and pretty much the only thing I like about it is its E-Reader ability... so no change in status on this? No way to keep the native reader after installing CM 10.1 or 10.2?
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Have you tried out other (Android) ereader apps?
FWIW I've been using the Mantano ereader (free version) and like it far better than the stock ROM Nook ereader.

Weirdest Issue
Hey, so I'm trying to format my SD card with SDformatter v4.0 and every time it hangs at 50% and it just sits there saying it's not responding? I've uninstalled and reinstalled SDformatter and redownloaded in case I had a bad download or something, but it still hangs everytime... it seems pretty simple and straight forward, and for double check I tried to format with native windows format and zipped right through just fine...?
If this continues to be an issue, can I use Easeus partition manager to do both the formatting and setting active?
P.S. No once I crack it open to android it will be my first full android experience, I have had a iphone for years but when this contract is up am likely switching to android for my handset as well.

gregorcarbine said:
Hey, so I'm trying to format my SD card with SDformatter v4.0 and every time it hangs at 50% and it just sits there saying it's not responding? I've uninstalled and reinstalled SDformatter and redownloaded in case I had a bad download or something, but it still hangs everytime... it seems pretty simple and straight forward, and for double check I tried to format with native windows format and zipped right through just fine...?
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SDFormatter actually rewrites the format and Windows format just quick formats, assuming the original format is ok. You probably have a defective SD.
Sent from my BN NookHD+ using XDA Premium HD app

My Luck
leapinlar said:
SDFormatter actually rewrites the format and Windows format just quick formats, assuming the original format is ok. You probably have a defective SD.
Sent from my BN NookHD+ using XDA Premium HD app
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Hahaha, well back to wal-mart I will go lol.Stupid sdcard
What's really weird is I can't even close SDFormatter from Taskmanager, just stays there even after 10-15 minutes and trying to shut it down a ton of times.
What does happen if I try to use Easeus?
Also, have formatted several times with Easeus and it does so fine, but after easeus format it hangs without even getting to 50%, literally SD Formatter dies at 0%... it's just so weird??? :-/
Have another SD card in the package I'm about to try, it's not micro but that shouldn't matter. If it formats that one I'm headed to wal-mart again, if not I may just risk trying the other one if it seems to be my rig not liking SD Formatter.
P.S. I've had easeus run an error test and the original micro I'm trying is coming up clean...?
Yeah SD Formatter just hung up at 20% for another brand new out of the box sandisk brand card... I'm gonna try an adapter and see if it's just my port that SD Formatter hates, but after that I'm gonna have to just go easeus route I guess...
Update!
Verdict is in! Turns out SD Formatter hates my native SD card reader, just borrowed my wifes usb adapter and it formatted super fine and super fast... Ugh, so dumb, but now I'm good to go!

[Q] General Help and Discussion needed...

Greetings,
I recently just purchased some Nook HD+ tablets and am new to the Android platform. I have yet to open the Nooks. I have spent the past two nights reading here about how to root, sideload, and other similar topics. I have gathered a small bit of understanding from the readings in my free time but I am now ready to get serious and would like a few questions answered before I begin, just to help me grasp it all completely. Once, I have these few basic questions out of the way, then I'll really get into deciding on a route to take and see whats best for me. I understand some would rather say "read this" and just redirect me but if you post, for the sake of discussion please entertain my questions.
1) Does the B&N stock android software offer any advantages, even if only one, (specific app, or feature) over custom android software? Out the box is it like stock Android 4.0.3 with B&N overlay similar to *Sense or is it B&N software through and through like Fire OS?
2) I have seen two "groups" N2A and another which I forget at the moment, that offer pre-made image files for download or MicroSD cards for purchase. Are these all the same files no matter where they come from or are they unique? Are all variations of CyanogenMod or are they from the ground up different? What is the significance of using one over the other?
3) Lastly, is there a very plain (vanilla) stock Android 4.4.2 for Nook HD+ that would be like virtually getting it from Google themselves? I'm talking from bootscreen to features and functions. Or all roms will have some sort of custom "branding" in them?
Thank you for helping me get started. I am sure I'll have more questions as this thread develops. Again, I appreciate any kindness offered.

1. There are only a couple of advantages of the stock OS besides being very stable. You have access to the B&N store apps if you made prior purchases on other devices. But the biggest advantage for some users is the reader app. It is better and smoother than the Nook reader app for Android. Plus it will read children's interactive books and Nook for Android app will not. The OS is pretty much Android with a B&N interface overlaid and replacing Google's. I don't know how to compare to Sense or FireOS since I have never seen either. But some things are totally different than Google, for instance in settings there is no Enable Unknown Sources setting.
2. The pre-made images are exactly the same as you get here. The only differences are that they do the work for you and furnish the SD cards.
3. There are several ROMs here that tweak the interface, but most are just variations of CM. You will have to research them yourself.
Sent from my BN NookHD+ using XDA Premium HD app

So far so good...
Thanks...
Is there anyway to get the updated 4.4.2 rom with the B&N overlay so that you get the B&N store or thats not possible? Also similar question for the Reader app itself? Has it been transported or is development in process on transporting it. Or is that not going to happen either.
I have no prior purchases from B&N and don't foresee me buying any in the future as I can convert my own files from purchases elsewhere. So I'm leaning toward updating. I see different variations of the updated rom. Is there a way to install the rom direct to the device, therefore leaving the MicroSD card slot free to use as storage? Or is that not recommended because it erases the Stock OS. Is running the OS directly from the device or from the MicroSD card more stable? Just general knowledge about CPUs and data transfers, I would imagine running the OS from the MicroSD card drains the battery a bit more and would exhibit some lag in comparison to running directly from the device internally, or is this not a problem?

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Thanks...
Is there anyway to get the updated 4.4.2 rom with the B&N overlay so that you get the B&N store or thats not possible? Also similar question for the Reader app itself? Has it been transported or is development in process on transporting it. Or is that not going to happen either.
I have no prior purchases from B&N and don't foresee me buying any in the future as I can convert my own files from purchases elsewhere. So I'm leaning toward updating. I see different variations of the updated rom. Is there a way to install the rom direct to the device, therefore leaving the MicroSD card slot free to use as storage? Or is that not recommended because it erases the Stock OS. Is running the OS directly from the device or from the MicroSD card more stable? Just general knowledge about CPUs and data transfers, I would imagine running the OS from the MicroSD card drains the battery a bit more and would exhibit some lag in comparison to running directly from the device internally, or is this not a problem?
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For the first two questions, no and no.
Yes if you look at the dummies guide linked in my signature there are directions there for installing to internal memory. But even if you install to SD it is pretty stable and the part of the SD not used for the operating system is available for storage. There is really no difference on battery or lag. And your warranty is intact. Just pop out the card and stock is not affected. That said, I use CM10.1.3 on internal memory and love it.
Sent from my BN NookHD+ using XDA Premium HD app

Almost done...
If I do install to internal memory, I lose my warranty? Is there a way to re-install B&N stock OS if I need my warranty later?
When choosing to run from the MicroSD can you see the files that are on the internal Nook memory or is it non-existent?
Also, Is it still relevant to use older slower MicroSD cards, or has the process improved over time and cured this? I happen to have a 32GB Sandisk Extreme laying around and want to know if It's necessary to go out and buy a new Sandisk 32GB Class 4. I've found some for about $18 from reputable retailers so not a problem but I do have the 32GB Extreme laying here lol.
Backing up to a question before... Do all the roms have a custom boot screen and "branding" or is there one available that would be vanilla android 4.4.2?

ecsjr said:
If I do install to internal memory, I lose my warranty? Is there a way to re-install B&N stock OS if I need my warranty later?
When choosing to run from the MicroSD can you see the files that are on the internal Nook memory or is it non-existent?
Also, Is it still relevant to use older slower MicroSD cards, or has the process improved over time and cured this? I happen to have a 32GB Sandisk Extreme laying around and want to know if It's necessary to go out and buy a new Sandisk 32GB Class 4. I've found some for about $18 from reputable retailers so not a problem but I do have the 32GB Extreme laying here lol.
Backing up to a question before... Do all the roms have a custom boot screen and "branding" or is there one available that would be vanilla android 4.4.2?
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First questions. Yes and yes.
And I don't known what you mean by non-existent. All files can be seen with root file managers.
And yes old slower cards are still best. But you can try that extreme and see how it works.
And all replacement ROMs show the 'cyanoboot' logo on booting if that is what you mean (the Nook has a locked bootloader so 'nook' always shows too). No pure vanilla. And 4.4.2 is still too cutting edge in my view. Stick with 4.2 (CM10.1) or 4.3 (CM10.2) .
Sent from my BN NookHD+ using XDA Premium HD app

I truly appreciate the chat...
Thanks,
When I get home today, I'm going to update the Nook HD+ using your guide in the signature. It all seems relatively straightforward. I'll comeback to post my conclusions and any further questions I may have. But thank you.

Charged up...
Ok so I'm charged up and power on the device, register it and get the Update notification:
I am on ver. 2.1.1, if I choose to update the stock OS to the latest version will that have any affect on me later deciding to update to CM?

ecsjr said:
Ok so I'm charged up and power on the device, register it and get the Update notification:
I am on ver. 2.1.1, if I choose to update the stock OS to the latest version will that have any affect on me later deciding to update to CM?
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No, as long as you registration it with B&N before you put CM on it, it does not matter what version you had on it. I don't believe it, but others have commented that it gets harder to boot from SD once you have put 2.2.0 on it.
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Got it..
Thanks.

Universal root...
In the Guide I see Universal Root Rev0 and Rev3 both sound similar to what I think I want to do, just don't know which to pick? I'm running B&N Stock and want to be able to install .apk from unknown sources leaving everything else pretty much untouched.

ecsjr said:
In the Guide I see Universal Root Rev0 and Rev3 both sound similar to what I think I want to do, just don't know which to pick? I'm running B&N Stock and want to be able to install .apk from unknown sources leaving everything else pretty much untouched.
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Rev0 is outdated and not even available anymore. But you don't need to root at all to just to enable unknown sources. Just flash the zip. Root is not necessary.
BTW, what guide are you talking about? The Dummies Guide does not mention Universal Root. Do you mean my HD/HD+ CWM thread?
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Update and some questions...lol
So I have CM 10.2.1-ovation running on internal Nook HD+ using this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317500. I noticed the Recovery menu is 6.0.2.8... Is is necessary to update this to the newer 6.0.3.6? What are the differences? Even if not, can you point me in the right direction, if not willing to explain how to get it updated?
Moving on...
I have my backup of B&N stock saved.
I used my Sandisk 32GB Extreme Plus microSDHC card and didn't encounter any errors to my knowledge lol.
I guess thats pretty much it, its done.
A few questions about the platform, apps, whats important vs not, etc...
1) I have apps spread out across the 4 or so blades. Coming from iOS platform, I usually ONLY use another blade if current one is full. Is there a reason why some apps are on first blade vs middle blade? Is there a reason why the media widget is on the desktop, etc? Am I free to remove these any way I want? What about the bottom dock/home buttons there are three I believe. The Gmail, Browser, and something else I forget, I think contacts. Can you touch on this area.
2) Certain apps like gmail, google+, Apollo, Voice dialer, whisper push all seem unnecessary to me as I do not use them or know what they are used for yet. Can you elaborate their usage. Can these be uninstalled, or removed in any way. I of course would like to keep the Google Play store.
3) The clock and date on the homescreen, is that a third-party widget or is that the Stock Android system? Is the customizable (font and size) without a third-party app or is it only like this?
4) I am looking for the ESPN SportsCenter app and noticed it's not compatible with my device. It says it's for Phones only. If I am able to find the .apk will Android allow for me to install on the Nook even though it's not a Phone it's a tablet?

ecsjr said:
So I have CM 10.2.1-ovation running on internal Nook HD+ using this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317500. I noticed the Recovery menu is 6.0.2.8... Is is necessary to update this to the newer 6.0.3.6? What are the differences? Even if not, can you point me in the right direction, if not willing to explain how to get it updated?
Moving on...
I have my backup of B&N stock saved.
I used my Sandisk 32GB Extreme Plus microSDHC card and didn't encounter any errors to my knowledge lol.
I guess thats pretty much it, its done.
A few questions about the platform, apps, whats important vs not, etc...
1) I have apps spread out across the 4 or so blades. Coming from iOS platform, I usually ONLY use another blade if current one is full. Is there a reason why some apps are on first blade vs middle blade? Is there a reason why the media widget is on the desktop, etc? Am I free to remove these any way I want? What about the bottom dock/home buttons there are three I believe. The Gmail, Browser, and something else I forget, I think contacts. Can you touch on this area.
2) Certain apps like gmail, google+, Apollo, Voice dialer, whisper push all seem unnecessary to me as I do not use them or know what they are used for yet. Can you elaborate their usage. Can these be uninstalled, or removed in any way. I of course would like to keep the Google Play store.
3) The clock and date on the homescreen, is that a third-party widget or is that the Stock Android system? Is the customizable (font and size) without a third-party app or is it only like this?
4) I am looking for the ESPN SportsCenter app and noticed it's not compatible with my device. It says it's for Phones only. If I am able to find the .apk will Android allow for me to install on the Nook even though it's not a Phone it's a tablet?
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You are jumping all over the place. Your previous question was for applying root to stock and enabling unknown sources. Now you have installed CM10.2.1.
No, you do not need to update that 6028.
And the rest of your questions are specific to CM10.2 now. You are best asking those questions in the CM10.2 thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2389813
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Sorry about that...
leapinlar said:
You are jumping all over the place. Your previous question was for applying root to stock and enabling unknown sources. Now you have installed CM10.2.1.
No, you do not need to update that 6028.
And the rest of your questions are specific to CM10.2 now. You are best asking those questions in the CM10.2 thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2389813
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I'm working on two separate tablets... I kept one stock and the other CM.

Back with more...
So far all is well on the Nook HD+ with CM 10.2.1... I appreciate your guide link and help.
Now with the Nook HD+ that is on Stock B&N. To enable Unknown Sources leaving the B&N stock, earlier you use the phrase "Flash the zip" is all I need to do. Can you explain a bit more what that means or any pointer is helpful. Thank you.

ecsjr said:
So far all is well on the Nook HD+ with CM 10.2.1... I appreciate your guide link and help.
Now with the Nook HD+ that is on Stock B&N. To enable Unknown Sources leaving the B&N stock, earlier you use the phrase "Flash the zip" is all I need to do. Can you explain a bit more what that means or any pointer is helpful. Thank you.
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Get the zip from my HD/HD+ CWM thread (item 3). Boot to CWM and install (flash) the zip just like you did the CM zip on the other device. It changes a hidden setting in stock to allow you to install applications from sources other than the Nook Store or Play Store.
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Update...
leapinlar said:
Get the zip from my HD/HD+ CWM thread (item 3). Boot to CWM and install (flash) the zip just like you did the CM zip on the other device. It changes a hidden setting in stock to allow you to install applications from sources other than the Nook Store or Play Store.
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Perfect thanks.
UPDATE: Using Root Explorer. Any recommendations of a better file manager, I like Root Explorer, just new to the platform so I don't really know what else is good? Also, what is the process for returning my now 4GB mSD to its full 32GB? Thank you for all the help.

ecsjr said:
Perfect thanks.
UPDATE: Using Root Explorer. Any recommendations of a better file manager, I like Root Explorer, just new to the platform so I don't really know what else is good? Also, what is the process for returning my now 4GB mSD to its full 32GB? Thank you for all the help.
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Root Explorer is the best.
And you should not have used a 32GB SD as your CWM SD. You should have used a relatively small 4-8Gb SD so you can keep it for future use. You WILL need it again. That said, you can return it to 32Gb by using the program SDFormatter free on the web.
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Switching cards
leapinlar said:
Root Explorer is the best.
And you should not have used a 32GB SD as your CWM SD. You should have used a relatively small 4-8Gb SD so you can keep it for future use. You WILL need it again. That said, you can return it to 32Gb by using the program SDFormatter free on the web.
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My first complete backup and wipe for the CM10.2.1 tablet isn't mine and I will no longer need that full CM10.2.1 setup. However I did use that card to flash the zip on the Stock B&N because I felt it was easier to follow your instructions that way... Now for future reference, I do have a small 2GB card I wanted to use following this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2062613 method under "1a" to make a small CWM to simply flash the Stock B&N in the future. Is this possible? Or does it always have to be 4GB?

largest SD card HD+ can take

Hi
What is the largest size SD card the HD+ can take as of today? I have seen posts talking about 64GB. Just to make sure that is it as far as capacity.
Trying to decide if i should buy the 16GB or 32GB model.
The 32GB model seems to have quite a premium on it on the used market, so it seems the 16GB mpdel and a SD card would be better value.
Next thing is the battery issue. What are the chances that a used HD+ battery will have much, if any, life left in it?
Read an interesting thread here today (been reading about HD+ all day) about a guy who used 2 x Sony batteries. So the batteries can be replaced and those sony batteries will be around for a fair while (new phone model they come out of) so seems the nook can go on and on as far battery replacement goes.
Why a Nook HD+ ? Its the only tablet i can find with no camera other than an IPAD 1. I've given up on the IPAD 1 - much much too much messing around trying to get decent modern apps on it.
My useage is mainly movies, music and ebooks. I think the HD+ is the right choice.
Thanks for any heads up/opinions
*edit*......
Guess another way i could have said this is, will the HD+ take a 200GB card? If not what is the max size storage i can attach either by SD card, or USB host method ?

You are better off paying the premium for the 32GB model. Since the device uses an emulated internal SD, the extra space internally is critical. After the system is set up you are left with only an 8GB internal SD on the 16GB model. And most apps will only use the internal SD. Many apps will not even recognize the external SD. And I only have heard of the 64GB card working, don't know about larger.
And the factory battery comes charged at 50% and I would expect a new device to have a good working battery. Used devices could have a bad battery.
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leapinlar said:
You are better off paying the premium for the 32GB model.
Many apps will not even recognize the external SD. And I only have heard of the 64GB card working, don't know about larger.
And the factory battery comes charged at 50% and I would expect a new device to have a good working battery. Used devices could have a bad battery.
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Ok thanks for that info - that's really critical to know. Well i already bought the 16GB model and its being sent to the freight consolidator, so too late on that one.
But the next few I buy will be the 32GB model. I intend to buy 3 or 4 and have them all sent in one go. That way i should be able to end up with 1 or 2 that work OK.
I will stick with the 64GB cards - class 4 is what i think i saw mentioned here, so will look for those.
Thanks for the heads up.

My intended usage is movie viewing, listening to music and reading books. That's pretty much it. I dont expect to use it for browsing or anything else really.
Will Mx player, a music player app and an e-reader work OK in the 8GB left over internally? Media can go on the 64GB Micro SD card, and if i can get OTG working, i can use an SSD drive and/or a USB memory stick.
The only reason i want the Nook HD+ is for media consumption.

If you are not going to be using the SD to run a rom, you do not need to restrict yourself to class 4. I doubt you could find a 64 in class 4 anyway.
You have not said whether you are going to run stock or a custom rom.
You can use one of my utilities to swap the internal and external SDs. But, for the swap to work the SD must be formatted fat32. Most 64GB cards are not. See my CWM thread. Here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2062613 item 4.
And yes the apps will work with the 8GB and it will hold a lot of books and some music. Movies will gooble it up fast.
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leapinlar said:
If you are not going to be using the SD to run a rom, you do not need to restrict yourself to class 4. I doubt you could find a 64 in class 4 anyway.
You have not said whether you are going to run stock or a custom rom.
You can use one of my utilities to swap the internal and external SDs. But, for the swap to work the SD must be formatted fat32. Most 64GB cards are not. See my CWM thread. Here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2062613 item 4.
And yes the apps will work with the 8GB and it will hold a lot of books and some music. Movies will gooble it up fast.
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You are very correct - cant find a 64GB card in Class 4. Struggling to find a 32GB card in Class 4.
BUT - if i dont plan to run from SD then you say i dont need to restrict to class 4 - so would this one be OK ?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820173109
I want to run a custom ROM. I have downloaded lots of files for CM11 - My plan would be to use CM11 as a base ROM to fall back too if a 12.1 ROM proves to be unstable for me. Ultimate goal would be to run Lollipop if i can. I only want to watch movies, listen to music and read books - no need of browsing etc, email and the like as i wont have any wi-fi anyway.
This is waaaaay to far in advance right now but just curious...... is it possible to get a ROM that has wi-fi removed or not functional?
Thanks for your input. Doing lots and lots of reading here, feel like i am starting to make sense of it all,
I have bought the new 16GB model and now also have 2 x 32GB used HD+'s as well.
I need, the USB connector, OTG cable ??, a power bank so i could try to use an SSD drive, micro SDXC cards.
Cant think of anything else right now other then maybe a USB charger from RAVPOWER or ANKA or similar as the power supply that comes with the HD+ wont fit our wall sockets here.
Other then that, i think thats it.
Cheers and beers to you all.

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You are very correct - cant find a 64GB card in Class 4. Struggling to find a 32GB card in Class 4.
BUT - if i dont plan to run from SD then you say i dont need to restrict to class 4 - so would this one be OK ?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820173109
I want to run a custom ROM. I have downloaded lots of files for CM11 - My plan would be to use CM11 as a base ROM to fall back too if a 12.1 ROM proves to be unstable for me. Ultimate goal would be to run Lollipop if i can. I only want to watch movies, listen to music and read books - no need of browsing etc, email and the like as i wont have any wi-fi anyway.
This is waaaaay to far in advance right now but just curious...... is it possible to get a ROM that has wi-fi removed or not functional?
Thanks for your input. Doing lots and lots of reading here, feel like i am starting to make sense of it all,
I have bought the new 16GB model and now also have 2 x 32GB used HD+'s as well.
I need, the USB connector, OTG cable ??, a power bank so i could try to use an SSD drive, micro SDXC cards.
Cant think of anything else right now other then maybe a USB charger from RAVPOWER or ANKA or similar as the power supply that comes with the HD+ wont fit our wall sockets here.
Other then that, i think thats it.
Cheers and beers to you all.
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Yes that SD works fine.
CM11 has been know to brick some HD+ devices. I recommend CM10.1.3. It is fast, safe and stable on the HD series. You don't need anything any more advanced than that for what you want to use it for.
I don't know anything about OTG.
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Thank you for the info and the heads up on 10.1.3. Is that JellyBean then?

RevJimJones said:
Thank you for the info and the heads up on 10.1.3. Is that JellyBean then?
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Yes
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Doing extensive deep dive into this...... reading so much its all becoming a blur and will have to re-read it all
From the extensive research i have done it seems every CM ROM has issues. Ver 10.1, 10.2, 10.3 have had users report issues of various types. CM 11 seems to have issues from time to time as does CM12.
Given this, is there any real difference between using 10.3 and 11.x.x ? Fro what i read KitKat 4.4.4 makes better use of resources as an OS and that this helps the HD+ ???
I am just trying to figure out if i should run with 10.3 or an 11 or 12 ROM?
Another question, not that this matters right now but interested to know....... the screen res. Its 1080P. Does it make a difference if i encode video files at 720P for the screen of the HD+ that has native 1080P? I would hate to spend a huge amount of time encoding down to 720P only to find it looks terrible because the native res is 1080P.
I can make my video files so much smaller encoding to 720P rather then 1080P. I would think on a 9" screen it would be little if any visible difference between 1080P and 720P encoded from a Blue Ray ?

RevJimJones said:
Doing extensive deep dive into this...... reading so much its all becoming a blur and will have to re-read it all
From the extensive research i have done it seems every CM ROM has issues. Ver 10.1, 10.2, 10.3 have had users report issues of various types. CM 11 seems to have issues from time to time as does CM12.
Given this, is there any real difference between using 10.3 and 11.x.x ? Fro what i read KitKat 4.4.4 makes better use of resources as an OS and that this helps the HD+ ???
I am just trying to figure out if i should run with 10.3 or an 11 or 12 ROM?
Another question, not that this matters right now but interested to know....... the screen res. Its 1080P. Does it make a difference if i encode video files at 720P for the screen of the HD+ that has native 1080P? I would hate to spend a huge amount of time encoding down to 720P only to find it looks terrible because the native res is 1080P.
I can make my video files so much smaller encoding to 720P rather then 1080P. I would think on a 9" screen it would be little if any visible difference between 1080P and 720P encoded from a Blue Ray ?
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video on HD+ looks good at all res.
And I told you CM11 is dangerous because it can brick certain models with the vulnerable chips. Stick with CM10.1.3.
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leapinlar said:
video on HD+ looks good at all res.
And I told you CM11 is dangerous because it can brick certain models with the vulnerable chips. Stick with CM10.1.3.
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OK got it. Best i stop reading now ;}
So 720P it is for me then.
Which are the certain models with vulnerable chips? Always nice to know if the tab you have is vulnerable.

RevJimJones said:
OK got it. Best i stop reading now ;}
So 720P it is for me then.
Which are the certain models with vulnerable chips? Always nice to know if the tab you have is vulnerable.
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Search the HD+ forum for "trim bug", it will tell you.
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RevJimJones said:
OK got it. Best i stop reading now ;}
So 720P it is for me then.
Which are the certain models with vulnerable chips? Always nice to know if the tab you have is vulnerable.
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Here is the link to CM Wiki page on the Samsung EMMC Bug:
https://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/EMMC_Bugs
FWIW CM11 later releases incorporated fixes that avoid triggering this fatal bug on affected devices.