Will units shipped with 4.2 be downgradable to 4.1.2? - Nexus 7 General

EDIT: I noticed that this is the wrong section. Please move, thanks.
I heard that the batch sold this Christmas will be arriving with 4.2, after the issues I've heard about I think I'd rather stick with a stable release. (16 GB Wi-Fi)
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Harry GT-S5830 said:
I heard that the batch sold this Christmas will be arriving with 4.2, after the issues I've heard about I think I'd rather stick with a stable release.
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I would assume they would be. Unless there was a hardware change, I would think you could fastboot flash a 4.1.2 os to it, of course providing you fastboot flash the earlier boot as well. This is speaking in regards to grouper, because I have no idea what the os progression of tilapia was.
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4.2 is totally stable. Stop reading and try it for your self.
Downgrade...haha.
Whats unstable about 4.2?
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The 4.2 issues have mostly been from upgrading, and have been cured by a data wipe. Yeah, it sucked for people who don't like reinstalling apps, but that's what Titanium Backup is for. Getting a fresh 4.2 tablet shouldn't cause you any worries, so feel free to enjoy it. A little patience will pay off as those few apps work out their compatibility issues. And, hey, isn't the bleeding edge the point of a Nexus anyway?!?
If you do have problems, flashing a 4.1.2 image shouldn't be a problem.

Harry GT-S5830 said:
EDIT: I noticed that this is the wrong section. Please move, thanks.
I heard that the batch sold this Christmas will be arriving with 4.2, after the issues I've heard about I think I'd rather stick with a stable release. (16 GB Wi-Fi)
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Yes you can! Just download the original firmware for 4.1 and use one of the tools available, dont remember the names. Not sure if you can get 4.1.2 though, but 4.1 no problem! 4.2 is the first android release that I dont think is an improvement from previous versions.
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Upgrade the tablet once you get it, before installing apps. Or do a factory reset after upgrading. That cures 99% of the problems out there. No reason to stay with a lower firmware..
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Although Google has told you not to downgrade units shipped with 4.1.2 or later to 4.1.1, due to hardware issues. 4.2 may/may not work.

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Where is the early July update for Bell's Galaxy S?

So where the hell is the early July update for Bell's Galaxy S?
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Hey man,
Great news, the update is out. In fact, it has been out since over a year.
Its called rooting your phone to install a polished, stable and overall superior rom.
2$ it'll be out tomorrow morning!
The SGS2 came out on july 14th and they probably didn't want to kill sales by upgrading the original SGS to GB first.
Now that it's available, I would expect the update anytime soon...
I live in Canada and bought my Galaxy s from bell also last year.
Whats wrong with you, root your phone.
Man, the experience is incomparable. Samsung takes an average 6month before dropping a new minor update that adds bugs of its own. Root your phone and you'll thank me later.
I mean i was planning to buy a sgs2 to resolve many of the major problems i had with sgs. At a point i thought it was hardware, since no matter how many times i exchange my phone at futureshop for free, or no matter how many application i installed, my battery would only last 3 hours. And when it reached 10% left, it would freeze, lag and become unresponsive. After installing a rom, my phone now last over a day from extensive use.
Non rooted users are dependent of samsung and their carrier. Rooted phone have unlimited possibilities and their request and want are usually answered rapidly by the community.
What rom do you use?
legendofjon said:
I live in Canada and bought my Galaxy s from bell also last year.
Whats wrong with you, root your phone.
Man, the experience is incomparable. Samsung takes an average 6month before dropping a new minor update that adds bugs of its own. Root your phone and you'll thank me later.
I mean i was planning to buy a sgs2 to resolve many of the major problems i had with sgs. At a point i thought it was hardware, since no matter how many times i exchange my phone at futureshop for free, or no matter how many application i installed, my battery would only last 3 hours. And when it reached 10% left, it would freeze, lag and become unresponsive. After installing a rom, my phone now last over a day from extensive use.
Non rooted users are dependent of samsung and their carrier. Rooted phone have unlimited possibilities and their request and want are usually answered rapidly by the community.
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HiKsFiles said:
2$ it'll be out tomorrow morning!
The SGS2 came out on july 14th and they probably didn't want to kill sales by upgrading the original SGS to GB first.
Now that it's available, I would expect the update anytime soon...
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I'll take that bet. Its been pushed back to the 21st.
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hansonator said:
I'll take that bet. Its been pushed back to the 21st.
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Link please?...
Jyst go to bell.ca and you'll see the lauch date is now the 21st and there's a few bilboards in Montreal
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Thank you for your interest. This contest is now closed.
Find out more about the Samsung Galaxy S II 4G superphone, coming July 21.
LAME
hansonator said:
I'll take that bet. Its been pushed back to the 21st.
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In that case, i'll bet you 2$ it'll be out on the 21st instead or a few days later...
Philgag said:
What rom do you use?
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Sadly, 80% of the rom available is faster and more stable that samsung firmware.
I used to use f1 galaxy s v6. Im testing many here and their before coming to a conclusion.
Anyways, this should be interesting for rooted users,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1172898
legendofjon said:
Hey man,
Great news, the update is out. In fact, it has been out since over a year.
Its called rooting your phone to install a polished, stable and overall superior rom.
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You don't need to root your phone to install a different rom...
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GOTFrogqc said:
Jyst go to bell.ca and you'll see the lauch date is now the 21st and there's a few bilboards in Montreal
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I'll have to take your word about the billboards, because the only thing I see on the Website is info about the SGS2 on 7/21...
legendofjon said:
Sadly, 80% of the rom available is faster and more stable that samsung firmware.
I used to use f1 galaxy s v6. Im testing many here and their before coming to a conclusion.
Anyways, this should be interesting for rooted users,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1172898
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I have no problem going the custom route, but since the official ROM may possibly be around the corner, might as well wait the extra day or two...
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ccrows said:
I have no problem going the custom route, but since the official ROM may possibly be around the corner, might as well wait the extra day or two...
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Milestone!?! :?
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BottleB said:
Milestone!?! :?
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I have both phones and still enjoy using them both.
If and only "if" Gingerbread doesn't kill my i9000m internal SD like Froyo did, then I might stick with the i9000m...
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I'm pretty sure those were hardware or manufacturing defects, that were blatantly exposed by Froyo.
Complaints nose-dived in January and all but disappeared after they finally started getting properly repaired/built units out.
haloimplant said:
I'm pretty sure those were hardware or manufacturing defects, that were blatantly exposed by Froyo.
Complaints nose-dived in January and all but disappeared after they finally started getting properly repaired/built units out.
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Actually it was a combo effect.
People that had the October and November Internal SD's, plus the original launch of Froyo were the main ones affected. Too many threads to post about this, but most are around here.
The Original Froyo FW was pulled for a reason.
All I know is that I had a "Perfect" and "Mint" November i9000m. Sadly the original Froyo upgrade didn't even 2 days with me. I had the *stutter vibrate* and then it was "Boot loop game over"...
i hope it out by friday. Knowing Bhell they will not release it till the end of the month or even later.
Hi, the sg2 will be available tomorrow with bell & virgin
So, for the room I agree, try a new rom. I had around 800 point in quadrant and now 1700 with a custom rom.
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A Fine OS Google... a Fine OS

Amidst all the threads with 4.2 bashing and complaining and websites calling 4.2 the worst since Honeycomb, I wanted to just say that 4.2 is the best version of the OS to date. I've been sole on Android since 2009 with the Droid release and had experience since eclair. A major gripe I've always had with Android is that regular reboots were required to keep the system running efficiently. Custom Roms were required to have good features. But Android has matured to the point of greatness.
I have a De-Odexed version of 4.2 with not one reboot in over 100 hours on my Nexus 7 and Ive been draining the battery to at least 10% each day. (I use it a lot Lol). This is something I would never have been able to do on any other version of the OS. It is fast, stable and very efficient.
Way to go Google... Can't wait for the next one
Don't worry, it's always the same handful of whingers. Besides them, there are millions of satisfied owners...
If there were a company in the market who had changed their business model from innovation to litigation,
and they had more cash than any other company on earth,
you would think they might be spending some of that cash throwing up FUD for their competitors.
No one says they have to play fair.
Same here, really like and enjoy 4.2.
Of course there's a couple of bugs, esp. with new features, but that's nothing unusual and they will be fixed.
On another note: would you mind telling me how and what you used to deodex 4.2?
Wanna mess around again the ROM but the tools I got barely worked on 4.0 so can't even think of using them on 4.1 or even 4.2.... :-/
Appreciated
HellcatDroid said:
Same here, really like and enjoy 4.2.
Of course there's a couple of bugs, esp. with new features, but that's nothing unusual and they will be fixed.
On another note: would you mind telling me how and what you used to deodex 4.2?
Wanna mess around again the ROM but the tools I got barely worked on 4.0 so can't even think of using them on 4.1 or even 4.2.... :-/
Appreciated
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Its the Dev section....
The system apps are deodex but not framework...
CrazyPeter said:
Don't worry, it's always the same handful of whingers. Besides them, there are millions of satisfied owners...
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Whingers you say, funnily enough in the years I've been on XDA I've not come across as many people complaining about an Android update as I have about 4.2 but if you say everyone one of these people are *whingers* then it must be true eh
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I love 4.2.
Screw December! Damn month had quite the ego.
Overall I am very happy. I am 100% stock and not rooted and I don't seem to be having any issues other than December being gone.
Can't wait for the next one!
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I just prefer 4.1.2. I just haven't been whining about it all over the forum.
The only feature that I actually used on 4.2 was the keyboard. So I downgraded back to 4.1.2 and just flashed the keyboard. And 4.1.2 performs better on my device.
wpghtc said:
I love 4.2.
Screw December! Damn month had quite the ego.
Overall I am very happy. I am 100% stock and not rooted and I don't seem to be having any issues other than December being gone.
Can't wait for the next one!
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I love it. Chrome seems light years faster.
As much as I would love to give my thanks to google for this update I can not. I've been using android since cupcake and one of the biggest fans. Eleven different devices running android over the years. I am always one of the lucky ones and don't have the issues others complain about, untill now.
I've had my n7 since launch and it is the only android I never bothered to root as it was perfect from the start and I had little use for my rooted apps. After the ota I had constant hot reboots and a somewhat flawed ui (not that's a real complaint as much of that was supposed to happen) not to mention worse battery life and slower charges.
I was forced to root, and am happy I did, alrdeay running three different custom roms and pretty impresses, much more so than googles official 4.2 update
This is the first time that in my opinon the update was worse than the previous.
So I guess I like it as it finally made me root my n7!
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I quite like 4.2 the only thing I would like added is a restart option on the power button. Have had some random reboots but its nothing major for me and as apps get updated they are getting less frequent.
I don't think I have ever bashed a release version in over 3 years of solely using droid os.
Cursed a few custom ROMs tho
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wpghtc said:
I love 4.2.
Screw December! Damn month had quite the ego.
Overall I am very happy. I am 100% stock and not rooted and I don't seem to be having any issues other than December being gone.
Can't wait for the next one!
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December isn't gone. Run the stock calendar app and you'll see it just fine. The place where it's AWOL is in the "People" app.
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demkantor said:
As much as I would love to give my thanks to google for this update I can not. I've been using android since cupcake and one of the biggest fans. Eleven different devices running android over the years. I am always one of the lucky ones and don't have the issues others complain about, untill now.
I've had my n7 since launch and it is the only android I never bothered to root as it was perfect from the start and I had little use for my rooted apps. After the ota I had constant hot reboots and a somewhat flawed ui (not that's a real complaint as much of that was supposed to happen) not to mention worse battery life and slower charges.
I was forced to root, and am happy I did, alrdeay running three different custom roms and pretty impresses, much more so than googles official 4.2 update
This is the first time that in my opinon the update was worse than the previous.
So I guess I like it as it finally made me root my n7!
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Did you perform a full wipe after updating to 4.2. If not it might have been some incompatible apps making your n7 do the reboots and other things. By the way do you have an 8 or 16 GB n7? I have 16, and haven't had a single problem after updating.
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I dont feel like saying thanks google because its their job. and on one side am happy on the other i wait for 4.2.1 to fix all the bugs ..so its balanced
I haven't had an issue with performance at all did a clean install from a image and been great.
The only thing that I find useless are the " quick settings" cause they are not quick making a five step process into a four step process is not quick
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Brian, do you use a second multi user profile?
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A full wipe doesn't help. I did one before installing 4.2. I haven't had a reboot since I uninstalled HD Widgets, but it hasn't been that long. It may not be causing the problem, but it certainly does seem to make the problem come to the forefront.
Well I have noticed that HD widgets are fine until you use a lock screen widget then all hell breaks loose.
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rmagruder said:
Brian, do you use a second multi user profile?
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no
Am I to assume that the update for three nex7 I'd totally different than the one for the gnex? I mean I know they are totally different devices but I have a stock 4.2 rom on my phone and it's fine. Battery life is way better than the cm Rom I was running and I haven't had any problems.
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4.3 leaked/in testing Galaxy S4

Seems as Nexus owners we're not the first to get the update this time. It could turn out to be an elaborate fake but probably genuine as Google are an experimenting company and have released two flagship devices with a vanilla Android option (although they're not "nexus"). From what I've read there doesn't appear to be any big changes (if any actually visible) and more fixes/optimisations.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2342362
gsmyth said:
Seems as Nexus owners we're not the first to get the update this time. It could turn out to be an elaborate fake but probably genuine as Google are an experimenting company and have released two flagship devices with a vanilla Android option (although they're not "nexus"). From what I've read there doesn't appear to be any big changes (if any actually visible) and more fixes/optimisations.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2342362
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Flashed it on my GS4 and working like a charm (and it's the international version of course). No root yet, so i'll switch back to 4.2.2 to get my apps lol (can't restore through TB Pro duh).
It's just a leak so don't worry about it. The Nexus devices will definitely get the 4.3 first.
kingzain900 said:
Flashed it on my GS4 and working like a charm (and it's the international version of course). No root yet, so i'll switch back to 4.2.2 to get my apps lol (can't restore through TB Pro duh).
It's just a leak so don't worry about it. The Nexus devices will definitely get the 4.3 first.
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Cool, I'm another few months away from a handset upgrade and so it definitely makes these phones an even better proposition, having access to stock android goodness. Was impressed seeing how quickly someone had put a vanilla 4.2.2 ROM together for the HTC One, then seen this and was very surprised.
Its good to see really as it shows that Google and the handset makers are finally getting why people like android so much and that is the option of choice and customisation. It may not be the exact reason for doing so but they must be conscious of it. As the last I/O conference showed, it was very developer orientated
kingzain900 said:
Flashed it on my GS4 and working like a charm (and it's the international version of course). No root yet, so i'll switch back to 4.2.2 to get my apps lol (can't restore through TB Pro duh).
It's just a leak so don't worry about it. The Nexus devices will definitely get the 4.3 first.
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Try rooting with Motochopper. Should still work on 4.3
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What are the new features?
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IRX120 said:
What are the new features?
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All features are under the hood. This explains it better: http://www.androidcentral.com/hands-leaked-android-43-rom-google-edition-galaxy-s4
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Try rooting with Motochopper. Should still work on 4.3
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I switched back to TW ROM for now. I found the camera app of TW to be of better quality and also if I have the S4, might as well use the features included in it.
So basically 4.3 has very little changes?? Mostly stuff no one will ever see or notice. In other words a placebo update basically to keep flash happys content until key lime comes out! LOL
Yay!
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kj2112 said:
So basically 4.3 has very little changes?? Mostly stuff no one will ever see or notice. In other words a placebo update basically to keep flash happys content until key lime comes out! LOL
Yay!
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Majority of what is updated won't be frontend. Just additions to the internal workings of android. Maybe some slimmed down code for some Google system apps and such.
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blmvxer said:
Majority of what is updated won't be frontend. Just additions to the internal workings of android. Maybe some slimmed down code for some Google system apps and such.
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And yet people will push seniors and kids out of their way to get their hands on! LOL.
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kj2112 said:
And yet people will push seniors and kids out of their way to get their hands on! LOL.
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Hahaha of course, its a new version of android. , also the pics I posted are a fake, just change your version number in build.prop and reboot. Even the easter egg reads the build.prop.
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That picture had the JDQ39 build number. Fake. 4.2
Edit: just read last post lol. I didn't know the easter egg read the build.prop.
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BlackFire27 said:
That picture had the JDQ39 build number. Fake. 4.2
Edit: just read last post lol. I didn't know the easter egg read the build.prop.
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Those are from my LGOG.
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My guess is 4.3 is just bug releases and something to keep us occupied before key lime pie
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Does not look like a whole lot of new stuff, wonder if battery and memory management will be any better
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rcarnes911 said:
Does not look like a whole lot of new stuff, wonder if battery and memory management will be any better
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Oh yeah, battery life on 4.2.2 is soooooo terrible /sarcasm
I routinely get 8 to 10 hours of screen time depending on how much standby there is.
I never said it was bad i just said i wonder if it will be better, no need for a stupid comment
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Those are from my LGOG.
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It took me a few minutes to figure out what a LGOG is lol
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Android 4.4 kitKat

I'm sure you've all heard new android 4.4 kitkat.
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...gn=Feed:+xda-developers/ShsH+(xda-developers)
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Not buying it. First of all KitKat is a trademarked name... Also the whole "golden ticket" willy wonka thing is bogus too.
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Not buying it. First of all KitKat is a trademarked name... Also the whole "golden ticket" willy wonka thing is bogus too.
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Pull out your wallet. Google spokeman confirmed it
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harsho1 said:
Not buying it. First of all KitKat is a trademarked name... Also the whole "golden ticket" willy wonka thing is bogus too.
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Dude they partnered up duh. They've already got the statue. And they're not doing anything willy wonka golden ticket things.. Is just a contest for N7s and a couple play store gift cards
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I feel like kitkat is gonna be dope. Anyone think our phone will be able to handle it? (they seem to have no doubt that the nexus 7 2013 will have it and besides the ram being 2gb and that AHD being 1gb, the specs don't between the two don't differ much [feel free to nicely correct me if I'm wrong])
4.4 is being made for older phones with lesser specs than ours. The question is will the carriers give it out to us?
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helldogg75 said:
4.4 is being made for older phones with lesser specs than ours. The question is will the carriers give it out to us?
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The answer is no, our talented devs will
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EcHoFiiVe said:
The answer is no, our talented devs will
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Exactly lol. We won't even get an official 4.2.
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deeje00 said:
Exactly lol. We won't even get an official 4.2.
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Did AT&T users even get 4.1.2?
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EcHoFiiVe said:
Did AT&T users even get 4.1.2?
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Yeah got that right after my first AHD. Caused my phone to bootloop and had to get another.
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Well then I'm gonna be hopeful for a PAC 4.4
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its on the official android site
http://www.android.com/
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Blackest Pain said:
I feel like kitkat is gonna be dope. Anyone think our phone will be able to handle it? (they seem to have no doubt that the nexus 7 2013 will have it and besides the ram being 2gb and that AHD being 1gb, the specs don't between the two don't differ much [feel free to nicely correct me if I'm wrong])
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in fact ive seen devices that originally came with gingerbread running 4.2.2 very well and not only that motorola will upgrade moto-x to kitkat atrix hd is only a 200mhz slower than moto-x
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in fact ive seen devices that originally came with gingerbread running 4.2.2 very well and not only that motorola will upgrade moto-x to kitkat atrix hd is only a 200mhz slower than moto-x
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Exactly! I personally am not down with the moto x. Its just a (very) slightly updated version of the matrix HD. And the real deal killer (from what I've heard) is that there's no f*#$%¡£ SD card slot.
Slightly of topic: since we where talking about kitkat running on older phones, does anyone else find it awesomely funny that the HTC dream/ T-Mobile G1 (the first official android phone) can run jellybean? Sure it's crap compared to ours now but the fact that it can even boot is cool.
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"It's our goal with android kitkat to make an amazing android experience available for everybody"
We'll see what that really means
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They should just push it out... forget the carriers.
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Did AT&T users even get 4.1.2?
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AT&T users got 4.1.1...
i actualy did not know that and not only that att cut there main support for atrix hd as soon as moto-x came out and i haveused the moto-x its really more of a downgrade than an upgrade and you are correct it does not have a external sd card slot which prevents me from even thinking about the moto-x as a possible device
thats why i havent bought the nexus 4
Well I don't really think that 4.4 KitKat will be the next version of android. I don't know why but it just doesn't sound right. I mean all these hints from Google about klp for nothing? If you remember a Google employee had posted a picture of android eating klp which actually "confirmed" klp as the next version of android for me. It could be a marketing trick, like they show kitkat and then release 5.0 KLP . It could be a small "lie" from Google so that it keeps us thinking that they release 4.4 and then, boum they release 5.0. I could be wrong but I don't think 4.4 will be next version of android if you think how many android versions 4+ has supported (4.0, 4.1, 4.1.2, 4.2.1, 4.2.2, 4.3, and now 4.4???) All other android version numbers were supporting no more than two versions of android (1.5, 2.0, 2.2, 3.0,) Also I don't think Google would use a copyrighted name as their next version of android. Like I said, this could be a "trick" from Google or I could be totally wrong
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Well I don't really think that 4.4 KitKat will be the next version of android. I don't know why but it just doesn't sound right. I mean all these hints from Google about klp for nothing? If you remember a Google employee had posted a picture of android eating klp which actually "confirmed" klp as the next version of android for me. It could be a marketing trick, like they show kitkat and then release 5.0 KLP . It could be a small "lie" from Google so that it keeps us thinking that they release 4.4 and then, boum they release 5.0. I could be wrong but I don't think 4.4 will be next version of android if you think how many android versions 4+ has supported (4.0, 4.1, 4.1.2, 4.2.1, 4.2.2, 4.3, and now 4.4???) All other android version numbers were supporting no more than two versions of android (1.5, 2.0, 2.2, 3.0,) Also I don't think Google would use a copyrighted name as their next version of android. Like I said, this could be a "trick" from Google or I could be totally wrong
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Here's the story behind the story
http://www.theverge.com/2013/9/3/4691040/android-kitkat-the-story-behind-a-delicious-partnership
Basically this makes me want to eat KitKats. They are delicious!
//I'm a sucker for marketing...bought a 6er of these because I liked the way the bottles looked.

how patient will I be?

Well, with many thanks to jfbs and ArtfulDodger, my phone is alive again, after my ham-handed abuse. I had it stock for about a day before the desire to get rid of the bloatware made me root it. Now, it's rooted with the stock rom. Am I a reformed flashaholic? I don't know if I'm going to go back to the jb rom i was trying to get back on the phone, or will i stay with stock until kit kat makes it to the exhibit? I would love me some slimkat - j/s. They sat patience is a virtue, but I'm a 21st Century Digital Boy with the attention span of a gnat....
We do have KitKat I'm running it now
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I know. I read that. I'm just running rooted stock, right now. Kit Kat is a serious temptation. Hey a good kernel, like we had with jb, and I will....
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Guys even on the S2 with official updates KitKat is very buggy. It's a very fast ROM but it has to be the buggiest android release ever! I know a new OS has problems at times but geez we're to 4.4.1 now and still there are issues and ART is not cooperating much. I'd really wait a while before trying it.
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Guys even on the S2 with official updates KitKat is very buggy. It's a very fast ROM but it has to be the buggiest android release ever! I know a new OS has problems at times but geez we're to 4.4.1 now and still there are issues and ART is not cooperating much. I'd really wait a while before trying it.
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Thanks for letting us know. I figured I would wait a bit, for the wrinkles to get ironed out. Still pretty early. I'm happy with the Exhibit right now, so I can afford to wait a bit.
I'm happy with KitKat every thing I use has worked fine
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I'm happy with KitKat every thing I use has worked fine
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That's good to know. I am sure AD is a serious power user, compared to me. I do know that when I read the OP there are still some things missing which I might use, but i will do some research. I might just hold my nose and put CM on my phone.... lol!

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