Just found out today that that my xperia tx came pre-installed with SU app. I tried opening it and
Said "no su binaries installed..."
Has my phone been modified/rooted?
Should I ask for a replacement unit?
Can you uninstall the app? That app doesn't usually come pre installed so it sounds like it's either second hand or been tinkered with. Any other indications of modifications? If the su asp can't be uninstalled that means that somebody rooted and upgraded, lost their rooting ability and traded it in? Check for defects to make sure it's ship shape and factory reset to be on the safe side!
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Galcactus said:
Can you uninstall the app? That app doesn't usually come pre installed so it sounds like it's either second hand or been tinkered with. Any other indications of modifications? If the su asp can't be uninstalled that means that somebody rooted and upgraded, lost their rooting ability and traded it in? Check for defects to make sure it's ship shape and factory reset to be on the safe side!
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Hi, thanks for the info. I wouldn't want to try uninstalling it first as I would lose the evidence before showing
It to the retail store. Can you give me other ways to confirm whether my device has been tampered?
Galcactus said:
Can you uninstall the app? That app doesn't usually come pre installed so it sounds like it's either second hand or been tinkered with. Any other indications of modifications? If the su asp can't be uninstalled that means that somebody rooted and upgraded, lost their rooting ability and traded it in? Check for defects to make sure it's ship shape and factory reset to be on the safe side!
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I mean super su app (android with cape logo)
Should I be alarmed?
Yes, super su suggests to me that it had indeed been rooted. what's the firmware on it? Don't uninstall it, just check if you can in the Sony launcher. If it says it's a system app and can't be uninstalled then it has been rooted. Anything else there that doesn't look stock?
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My phone is rooted running rooted stock rooted Mr2
I install mobile iron and it works for a day then stops syncing and I get an email from it that my phone is rooted and that is against company policy. I call to get it reset and the next day the same thing. Anyone know a workaround? I don't know what mobile iron is looking at to telll it is roooted.
Any help would be great... IT isn't going to beleive me much longer..
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i'd hate to be one the tough asses you see on here but, how about not rooting your company phone?
Not rooting a company phone, it is my phone but i connect to my work with it for emails, contacts, etc... but to take your method of thinking... Perhaps we should'nt root our phones at all since verizon does not approve of it....
denonlake said:
Not rooting a company phone, it is my phone but i connect to my work with it for emails, contacts, etc... but to take your method of thinking... Perhaps we should'nt root our phones at all since verizon does not approve of it....
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I don't think he is saying that we shouldn't root our phones because companies disapprove. I think he is saying, don't root your phone if you want that particular app to work without issue....
I'm curious to know how the app checks whether the device is rooted. I see similar behavior with the new Android Market on my rooted Nook Color; Movies just don't show up, but I don't get a SuperUser request, or anything indicating the app is checking for the ability to gain root.
denonlake said:
My phone is rooted running rooted stock rooted Mr2
I install mobile iron and it works for a day then stops syncing and I get an email from it that my phone is rooted and that is against company policy. I call to get it reset and the next day the same thing. Anyone know a workaround? I don't know what mobile iron is looking at to telll it is roooted.
Any help would be great... IT isn't going to beleive me much longer..
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Are you sure its rooted? Rooted? Rooted?
I bet that the app can scan the installed apps and check for SU. I would check the permissions of the app and see if there is anything odd. If your running CM7 i thought a little while back they introduced the ability to block permissions for apps. Might start there.
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Are you sure its rooted? Rooted? Rooted?
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Just caught that... Funny
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altimax98 said:
I bet that the app can scan the installed apps and check for SU. I would check the permissions of the app and see if there is anything odd. If your running CM7 i thought a little while back they introduced the ability to block permissions for apps. Might start there.
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or download the permissions app from the market
Since getting my TL I've been much more enthusiastic about playing around with it, by rooting it, deleting these crappy ATT apps, only to find the boot loader is not unlockable.
I wanted to install cyanogenmod to deny apps certain permissions but it looks impossible because the death star won't let us unlock the bootloader.
You guys have always been so helpful in the past... What would be the next best way to deny permissions? I've seen a couple apps in Google play, but they all seem to have their drawbacks.
Thanks
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bagofsnakes said:
Since getting my TL I've been much more enthusiastic about playing around with it, by rooting it, deleting these crappy ATT apps, only to find the boot loader is not unlockable.
I wanted to install cyanogenmod to deny apps certain permissions but it looks impossible because the death star won't let us unlock the bootloader.
You guys have always been so helpful in the past... What would be the next best way to deny permissions? I've seen a couple apps in Google play, but they all seem to have their drawbacks.
Thanks
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You can't do what you want with root access?
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Just want to stop apps from reading contact data, calling home, displaying ads, etc. I know there are a couple apps that do this. Just looking for a suggestion on which works best.
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Just want to stop apps from reading contact data, calling home, displaying ads, etc. I know there are a couple apps that do this. Just looking for a suggestion on which works best.
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Don't know what apps would be best but root should be all you need not unlocked bootloader.
bagofsnakes said:
Since getting my TL I've been much more enthusiastic about playing around with it, by rooting it, deleting these crappy ATT apps, only to find the boot loader is not unlockable.
I wanted to install cyanogenmod to deny apps certain permissions but it looks impossible because the death star won't let us unlock the bootloader.
You guys have always been so helpful in the past... What would be the next best way to deny permissions? I've seen a couple apps in Google play, but they all seem to have their drawbacks.
Thanks
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Try this: http://www.mobiwol.com/
No Root!
That looks like a start, but doesn't really do what he wants. In case you want a app to have web connection, but don't want it to read, for example, your contact data.
I would recommend Gemini app manager.
Have used it for a long time. Only downside is that you have to set all your settings again if you uninstall or change roms
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I would recommend LBE Privacy Guard. You can edit all the permissions like you want, permissions of system apps too. But you need root
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Ok so I've rooted my z1 and now I'm wondering which apps are save to delete from device to free up more space.
Is there a list anywhere listing which bloatware is safe to delete?
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gibbo82 said:
Ok so I've rooted my z1 and now I'm wondering which apps are save to delete from device to free up more space.
Is there a list anywhere listing which bloatware is safe to delete?
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There are lists, you can just google it.
However, the best thing to do is use an app like titanium backup and then "Freeze" aps. This way you can see if it effects performance or stability before actually uninstalling it. If it goes wrong you can just defrost the app again.
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There are lists, you can just google it.
However, the best thing to do is use an app like titanium backup and then "Freeze" aps. This way you can see if it effects performance or stability before actually uninstalling it. If it goes wrong you can just defrost the app again.
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I think you can just disable it from settings->apps
gibbo82 said:
Ok so I've rooted my z1 and now I'm wondering which apps are save to delete from device to free up more space.
Is there a list anywhere listing which bloatware is safe to delete?
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I was wondering the same thing today and just found some lists from other phones. Just hadn't gotten around to asking yet, so thanks.
But this is my first locked bootloader device I've rooted, so was wondering if the bootloader checks any system apps on boot? I assume not, but want to be safe. If the bootloader won't boot, then titanium won't help much to recover
Also, anyone know if tweaking things like the dpi in the build.prop will cause the bootloader to freeze?
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DAddYE said:
I think you can just disable it from settings->apps
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Not for system apps and bloatware
301stSpartan said:
I was wondering the same thing today and just found some lists from other phones. Just hadn't gotten around to asking yet, so thanks.
But this is my first locked bootloader device I've rooted, so was wondering if the bootloader checks any system apps on boot? I assume not, but want to be safe. If the bootloader won't boot, then titanium won't help much to recover
Also, anyone know if tweaking things like the dpi in the build.prop will cause the bootloader to freeze?
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Its not a problem deleting system apps and the bootloader. However, deleting system apps can some processes to fail, but the device should always boot.
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Its not a problem deleting system apps and the bootloader. However, deleting system apps can some processes to fail, but the device should always boot.
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Thanks mate. Any thoughts on build.prop tweaks? (Sorry for OT)
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This may be slightly off topic but did anyone get their Z1's with bloatware in another language that could not be uninstalled? When I got mine, it had a few apps in Polish (I think) that played music and some other things. I could not remove it the normal way. Just curious if anyone else got the same crap I did. I guess it shouldn't be too surprising seeing as how I got the C6903 overseas model. I just didn't think it'd have apps that I couldn't remove.
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This may be slightly off topic but did anyone get their Z1's with bloatware in another language that could not be uninstalled? When I got mine, it had a few apps in Polish (I think) that played music and some other things. I could not remove it the normal way. Just curious if anyone else got the same crap I did. I guess it shouldn't be too surprising seeing as how I got the C6903 overseas model. I just didn't think it'd have apps that I couldn't remove.
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Titanium back up or root explorer I've found to be the best apps to do this
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Does anyone know why if I freeze the att update stuff in TB it shows up when looking at the battery stats for android systems under included packages? Don't want an update forced on me and I'm trying to make sure I did it right.
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Does anyone know why if I freeze the att update stuff in TB it shows up when looking at the battery stats for android systems under included packages? Don't want an update forced on me and I'm trying to make sure I did it right.
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Did you reboot by any chance?
Yes, rebooted a few time both reboot and power off and back on. If I go into "about device" and hit "software update" it won't even load, button clicks but that's all it does. So I assume it's at least disabled at this point, I just don't want to assume wrong and get stuck with a secret att update and loose root.
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Mine still lists it as well even though it is frozen with Titanium Backup.
Ok maybe it's normal then. Thank you for checking.
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Anyone know why SuperSU is already installed on my Moto X PE? Came from the factory like that.
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Anyone know why SuperSU is already installed on my Moto X PE? Came from the factory like that.
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Sounds like you got sent a refurb/used phone. I'd call Motorola.
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Sounds like you got sent a refurb/used phone. I'd call Motorola.
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From Motomaker? Sounds fishy. I added a screenshot so you can see it. It doesn't appear in the app drawer, only as a system app, so it's not really rooted. Just the app is installed.
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From Motomaker? Sounds fishy. I added a screenshot so you can see it. It doesn't appear in the app drawer, only as a system app, so it's not really rooted. Just the app is installed.
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People do send back motomaker phones... What do you think motorola does with them? Again, I'd call them. SuperSU most definitely should not be preinstalled.
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People do send back motomaker phones... What do you think motorola does with them? Again, I'd call them. SuperSU most definitely should not be preinstalled.
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Sells them as refurbs, since you can't (legally) sell a phone as new if it's been in the hands of an end user.
I think the app auto installed when you logged into your google account.
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raptir said:
Sells them as refurbs, since you can't (legally) sell a phone as new if it's been in the hands of an end user.
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I'm not saying they did it intentionally, just maybe that it slipped through the cracks.
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SnowBeer said:
I think the app auto installed when you logged into your google account.
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Also a possibility.
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Sells them as refurbs, since you can't (legally) sell a phone as new if it's been in the hands of an end user.
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Don't forget Motorola is a Chinese company now, and there is no illegal thing there. Everything is legal.:laugh:
Did it come with Kit Kat or Lollipop out of the box? I got mine yesterday and it was still Kit Kat and a friend got his Monday, also Kit Kat. Both MotoMaker Pure Editions.
It came with KitKat out of the box. It also auto update itself after a factory reset. I don't care that it's there, I just thought it was strange. I went ahead and rooted it anyway, so it doesn't matter anymore.
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I think the app auto installed when you logged into your google account.
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I agree. I factory reset my device and SuperSU pro was installed from the play store during app refresh on a non rooted phone.
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I think the app auto installed when you logged into your google account.
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I agree. I factory reset my device and SuperSU pro was installed from the play store during app refresh on a non rooted phone.
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But he said it was installed as a system app, so it couldn't have come from the play store.
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But he said it was installed as a system app, so it couldn't have come from the play store.
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The place where he posted the screenshot from does not just show system apps. OP, are you able to uninstall the app through Settings -> Apps? That would tell you if it was installed as a system app or not.
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The place where he posted the screenshot from does not just show system apps. OP, are you able to uninstall the app through Settings -> Apps? That would tell you if it was installed as a system app or not.
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No I was not. The uninstall option was not available. That's how I knew it was a system app.
Well, my concern then would be what someone could have done with root access. In theory they could have installed other applications, like potentially a keylogger.
I personally would get a replacement if my phone was really rooted when I received it.
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Well, my concern then would be what someone could have done with root access. In theory they could have installed other applications, like potentially a keylogger.
I personally would get a replacement if my phone was really rooted when I received it.
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I never said it was rooted, only that SuperSU was already installed. Anyone can install SuperSU from the Play Store, but it's useless without the SuperSU binary that goes along with it. I just thought it was an intersting find.
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I never said it was rooted, only that SuperSU was already installed. Anyone can install SuperSU from the Play Store, but it's useless without the SuperSU binary that goes along with it. I just thought it was an intersting find.
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Not as a system app they can't. The phone either had to have been rooted at some point or it was flashed from a custom recovery. You can't install an app from the play store as a system app without root.
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Not as a system app they can't. The phone either had to have been rooted at some point or it was flashed from a custom recovery. You can't install an app from the play store as a system app without root.
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Right, this is what I meant. If it's installed as a system app then it is clear evidence that someone modified the system partition on your phone. That would concern me, personally.
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Not as a system app they can't. The phone either had to have been rooted at some point or it was flashed from a custom recovery. You can't install an app from the play store as a system app without root.
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Oh yeah good point... I hadn't thought about that. Now I am worried. I did perform a full reset, perhaps I should do a system wipe and reflash the stock img?
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Right, this is what I meant. If it's installed as a system app then it is clear evidence that someone modified the system partition on your phone. That would concern me, personally.
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Yeah... it hadn't bothered me until this point. I'll be contacting Motorola today. Might be moot now since I'm legitimately rooted and unlocked, but I do still have a warranty.