Anyone know why SuperSU is already installed on my Moto X PE? Came from the factory like that.
sivarticus85 said:
Anyone know why SuperSU is already installed on my Moto X PE? Came from the factory like that.
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Sounds like you got sent a refurb/used phone. I'd call Motorola.
_MetalHead_ said:
Sounds like you got sent a refurb/used phone. I'd call Motorola.
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From Motomaker? Sounds fishy. I added a screenshot so you can see it. It doesn't appear in the app drawer, only as a system app, so it's not really rooted. Just the app is installed.
sivarticus85 said:
From Motomaker? Sounds fishy. I added a screenshot so you can see it. It doesn't appear in the app drawer, only as a system app, so it's not really rooted. Just the app is installed.
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People do send back motomaker phones... What do you think motorola does with them? Again, I'd call them. SuperSU most definitely should not be preinstalled.
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People do send back motomaker phones... What do you think motorola does with them? Again, I'd call them. SuperSU most definitely should not be preinstalled.
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Sells them as refurbs, since you can't (legally) sell a phone as new if it's been in the hands of an end user.
I think the app auto installed when you logged into your google account.
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raptir said:
Sells them as refurbs, since you can't (legally) sell a phone as new if it's been in the hands of an end user.
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I'm not saying they did it intentionally, just maybe that it slipped through the cracks.
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SnowBeer said:
I think the app auto installed when you logged into your google account.
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Also a possibility.
raptir said:
Sells them as refurbs, since you can't (legally) sell a phone as new if it's been in the hands of an end user.
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Don't forget Motorola is a Chinese company now, and there is no illegal thing there. Everything is legal.:laugh:
Did it come with Kit Kat or Lollipop out of the box? I got mine yesterday and it was still Kit Kat and a friend got his Monday, also Kit Kat. Both MotoMaker Pure Editions.
It came with KitKat out of the box. It also auto update itself after a factory reset. I don't care that it's there, I just thought it was strange. I went ahead and rooted it anyway, so it doesn't matter anymore.
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SnowBeer said:
I think the app auto installed when you logged into your google account.
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I agree. I factory reset my device and SuperSU pro was installed from the play store during app refresh on a non rooted phone.
SnowBeer said:
I think the app auto installed when you logged into your google account.
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+1
elusive-one said:
I agree. I factory reset my device and SuperSU pro was installed from the play store during app refresh on a non rooted phone.
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But he said it was installed as a system app, so it couldn't have come from the play store.
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But he said it was installed as a system app, so it couldn't have come from the play store.
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The place where he posted the screenshot from does not just show system apps. OP, are you able to uninstall the app through Settings -> Apps? That would tell you if it was installed as a system app or not.
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The place where he posted the screenshot from does not just show system apps. OP, are you able to uninstall the app through Settings -> Apps? That would tell you if it was installed as a system app or not.
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No I was not. The uninstall option was not available. That's how I knew it was a system app.
Well, my concern then would be what someone could have done with root access. In theory they could have installed other applications, like potentially a keylogger.
I personally would get a replacement if my phone was really rooted when I received it.
raptir said:
Well, my concern then would be what someone could have done with root access. In theory they could have installed other applications, like potentially a keylogger.
I personally would get a replacement if my phone was really rooted when I received it.
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I never said it was rooted, only that SuperSU was already installed. Anyone can install SuperSU from the Play Store, but it's useless without the SuperSU binary that goes along with it. I just thought it was an intersting find.
sivarticus85 said:
I never said it was rooted, only that SuperSU was already installed. Anyone can install SuperSU from the Play Store, but it's useless without the SuperSU binary that goes along with it. I just thought it was an intersting find.
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Not as a system app they can't. The phone either had to have been rooted at some point or it was flashed from a custom recovery. You can't install an app from the play store as a system app without root.
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_MetalHead_ said:
Not as a system app they can't. The phone either had to have been rooted at some point or it was flashed from a custom recovery. You can't install an app from the play store as a system app without root.
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Right, this is what I meant. If it's installed as a system app then it is clear evidence that someone modified the system partition on your phone. That would concern me, personally.
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Not as a system app they can't. The phone either had to have been rooted at some point or it was flashed from a custom recovery. You can't install an app from the play store as a system app without root.
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Oh yeah good point... I hadn't thought about that. Now I am worried. I did perform a full reset, perhaps I should do a system wipe and reflash the stock img?
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Right, this is what I meant. If it's installed as a system app then it is clear evidence that someone modified the system partition on your phone. That would concern me, personally.
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Yeah... it hadn't bothered me until this point. I'll be contacting Motorola today. Might be moot now since I'm legitimately rooted and unlocked, but I do still have a warranty.
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My phone is rooted running rooted stock rooted Mr2
I install mobile iron and it works for a day then stops syncing and I get an email from it that my phone is rooted and that is against company policy. I call to get it reset and the next day the same thing. Anyone know a workaround? I don't know what mobile iron is looking at to telll it is roooted.
Any help would be great... IT isn't going to beleive me much longer..
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i'd hate to be one the tough asses you see on here but, how about not rooting your company phone?
Not rooting a company phone, it is my phone but i connect to my work with it for emails, contacts, etc... but to take your method of thinking... Perhaps we should'nt root our phones at all since verizon does not approve of it....
denonlake said:
Not rooting a company phone, it is my phone but i connect to my work with it for emails, contacts, etc... but to take your method of thinking... Perhaps we should'nt root our phones at all since verizon does not approve of it....
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I don't think he is saying that we shouldn't root our phones because companies disapprove. I think he is saying, don't root your phone if you want that particular app to work without issue....
I'm curious to know how the app checks whether the device is rooted. I see similar behavior with the new Android Market on my rooted Nook Color; Movies just don't show up, but I don't get a SuperUser request, or anything indicating the app is checking for the ability to gain root.
denonlake said:
My phone is rooted running rooted stock rooted Mr2
I install mobile iron and it works for a day then stops syncing and I get an email from it that my phone is rooted and that is against company policy. I call to get it reset and the next day the same thing. Anyone know a workaround? I don't know what mobile iron is looking at to telll it is roooted.
Any help would be great... IT isn't going to beleive me much longer..
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Are you sure its rooted? Rooted? Rooted?
I bet that the app can scan the installed apps and check for SU. I would check the permissions of the app and see if there is anything odd. If your running CM7 i thought a little while back they introduced the ability to block permissions for apps. Might start there.
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Are you sure its rooted? Rooted? Rooted?
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Just caught that... Funny
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altimax98 said:
I bet that the app can scan the installed apps and check for SU. I would check the permissions of the app and see if there is anything odd. If your running CM7 i thought a little while back they introduced the ability to block permissions for apps. Might start there.
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or download the permissions app from the market
Just found out today that that my xperia tx came pre-installed with SU app. I tried opening it and
Said "no su binaries installed..."
Has my phone been modified/rooted?
Should I ask for a replacement unit?
Can you uninstall the app? That app doesn't usually come pre installed so it sounds like it's either second hand or been tinkered with. Any other indications of modifications? If the su asp can't be uninstalled that means that somebody rooted and upgraded, lost their rooting ability and traded it in? Check for defects to make sure it's ship shape and factory reset to be on the safe side!
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Galcactus said:
Can you uninstall the app? That app doesn't usually come pre installed so it sounds like it's either second hand or been tinkered with. Any other indications of modifications? If the su asp can't be uninstalled that means that somebody rooted and upgraded, lost their rooting ability and traded it in? Check for defects to make sure it's ship shape and factory reset to be on the safe side!
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Hi, thanks for the info. I wouldn't want to try uninstalling it first as I would lose the evidence before showing
It to the retail store. Can you give me other ways to confirm whether my device has been tampered?
Galcactus said:
Can you uninstall the app? That app doesn't usually come pre installed so it sounds like it's either second hand or been tinkered with. Any other indications of modifications? If the su asp can't be uninstalled that means that somebody rooted and upgraded, lost their rooting ability and traded it in? Check for defects to make sure it's ship shape and factory reset to be on the safe side!
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I mean super su app (android with cape logo)
Should I be alarmed?
Yes, super su suggests to me that it had indeed been rooted. what's the firmware on it? Don't uninstall it, just check if you can in the Sony launcher. If it says it's a system app and can't be uninstalled then it has been rooted. Anything else there that doesn't look stock?
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I'm rooted (VZW) and use most of the Xposed modules. I woke up this morning and tried to use touchless controls. Didn't work so I did some investigating. Noticed it was turned off so I turned it on. Didn't work. Rebooted then noticed that reboots turned touchless control off. I tried Google now and while it worked, I didn't hear the usual sound that plays once it's acknowledged "Google". From there I noticed I had no sound whatsoever. Bluetooth was on. I turned it off, sound came back but not touchless controls.
Last night I remembered trying to install themed Google keyboards. While it worked, it took uninstalling the stock Google keyboard, installing the one from Google play, uninstalling Google play version, then installing the themed apk. I had since backed up all my apps, meaning I've written over the stock keyboard. Now I don't really think this would effect touchless controls, since I can't seem to fix them, I figured I'd factory reset and see what happened. Unfortunately, it doesn't work through settings. Just reboots my phone. Any ideas? I've yet to try it through a stock recovery or something similar. I've yet to find answers on how that works on this phone (actually haven't searched yet).
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If you rooted using PwnMyMoto then it has overwritten the stock recovery. Basically it writes an Android system without write protection on the recovery partition when you root. You will have to flash stock recovery back and then a factory reset will work.
housry23 said:
If you rooted using PwnMyMoto then it has overwritten the stock recovery. Basically it writes an Android system without write protection on the recovery partition when you root. You will have to flash stock recovery back and then a factory reset will work.
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Excellent, thanks.
I've searched for a possible cause for the touchless controls issue but to no avail. Have you heard anyone having these issues?
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Crooke356 said:
Excellent, thanks.
I've searched for a possible cause for the touchless controls issue but to no avail. Have you heard anyone having these issues?
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Excuse me for butting in. I've been checking out some threads for the Moto X on both the Q&A and General boards for some time and your the first person that has written about such an issue as far as I've seen. Very strange. Hopefully that factory reset works in your favor.
erik7970 said:
Excuse me for butting in. I've been checking out some threads for the Moto X on both the Q&A and General boards for some time and your the first person that has written about such an issue as far as I've seen. Very strange. Hopefully that factory reset works in your favor.
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Please, butt in! I'm hoping to avoid going to stock recovery. Which I'm assuming requires unrooting. I was also having sound issues. No sound until I went into settings and went through ring tones. None would work, no sound. Until I cleared settings from recents and then went back into it and tried again. Then it would work. I began deleting all root apps. It was a module within Xposed. Not sure which but now sound works as it should. I've since deleted all root apps but still haven't fixed touchless controls. It almost seems as if the microphone for touchless isn't working? Aren't there two microphones on this device?
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Crooke356 said:
Please, butt in! I'm hoping to avoid going to stock recovery. Which I'm assuming requires unrooting. I was also having sound issues. No sound until I went into settings and went through ring tones. None would work, no sound. Until I cleared settings from recents and then went back into it and tried again. Then it would work. I began deleting all root apps. It was a module within Xposed. Not sure which but now sound works as it should. I've since deleted all root apps but still haven't fixed touchless controls. It almost seems as if the microphone for touchless isn't working? Aren't there two microphones on this device?
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So you've removed Xposed and all modules? Have you rebooted the system since removing them? If I were in your position, I would want to completely unroot and start fresh because if it's a problem with the microphone, it's covered under warranty and you need to get a replacement.
You can follow this tutorial to return to stock, just make sure you download the correct version for your phone. If you're familiar with adb and fastboot, it may be easier to just fastboot flash recovery and system and that should return you to 100% stock unrooted.
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So you've removed Xposed and all modules? Have you rebooted the system since removing them? If I were in your position, I would want to completely unroot and start fresh because if it's a problem with the microphone, it's covered under warranty and you need to get a replacement.
You can follow this tutorial to return to stock, just make sure you download the correct version for your phone. If you're familiar with adb and fastboot, it may be easier to just fastboot flash recovery and system and that should return you to 100% stock unrooted.
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Yes, rebooted so much thought I was going to wear out the power button lol. I've switched to my G2 to prepare to go to stock on the X. Was just hoping to avoid going to the VZW store, I really hate dealing those people. Loathe it.
I'm familiar with adb. Just need a good internet connection. I have to use hotspot for internet where I live and while we have TWRP on the G2, no bypass on wireless tether. I thought about trying the method I used on the X but I'm not savvy enough to know if that'll break something. .bak isn't always a sure thing.
Did you have a link to the stock file? I can search it but it looked like in your post you had it.
Edit: all these new phones forgot about the S4. There's my hotspot.
Thanks for help bro
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anonymousirritator said:
Try industry reset.
Ps-thank me.
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Industry reset?
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anonymousirritator said:
Try industry reset.
Ps-thank me.
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You trying to say factory reset?
Oops, forgot to add the link earlier. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2446515
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o_z0ne said:
You trying to say factory reset?
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Judging from his username and signature, I assume he is trolling? I apologize if my assumption is incorrect and they are truly trying to help.
housry23 said:
Oops, forgot to add the link earlier. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2446515
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I used the link you posted and did my factory reset. If that's what you wanna call that lol. Anyway, it looks like my problem with touchless controls was something I did because its working fine. THANK GOD!!! No VZW reps needed. Thanks for your help housry. Saved me some time searching.
Crooke356 said:
I used the link you posted and did my factory reset. If that's what you wanna call that lol. Anyway, it looks like my problem with touchless controls was something I did because its working fine. THANK GOD!!! No VZW reps needed. Thanks for your help housry. Saved me some time searching.
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Did you ever manage to locate the source of the problem? Good to hear you have your phone working!
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Did you ever manage to locate the source of the problem? Good to hear you have your phone working!
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Never did.. Only thing I didn't return to stock was the keyboard. Still used the Google keyboard, but not the built in Google keyboard. Have no idea if that's what it was but it's the only thing I couldn't get back to stock.
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Crooke356 said:
Never did.. Only thing I didn't return to stock was the keyboard. Still used the Google keyboard, but not the built in Google keyboard. Have no idea if that's what it was but it's the only thing I couldn't get back to stock.
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Very strange indeed, but good that that you have your phone working again.
Did you ever try deleting touchless controls data/cache uninstalling update, then reinstalling the update?
stillthisguy said:
Did you ever try deleting touchless controls data/cache uninstalling update, then reinstalling the update?
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No I sure didn't. I didn't even think about that. Now that you say that, I remember updating that the night before it failed.
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FYI, Sprint installs something called Luemn ToolBar and when you click on it it brings up Sprint Mobile Advertising program. Make sure you disabled this cr$p.
howie411 said:
FYI, Sprint installs something called Luemn ToolBar and when you click on it it brings up Sprint Mobile Advertising program. Make sure you disabled this cr$p.
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Thats why you root your phone. Remove crap you dont want. Problem solved.
howie411 said:
FYI, Sprint installs something called Luemn ToolBar and when you click on it it brings up Sprint Mobile Advertising program. Make sure you disabled this cr$p.
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You can uninstall that Toolbar as well as all the other crapware, I'm looking at you NASCAR App.
sikclown said:
You can uninstall that Toolbar as well as all the other crapware, I'm looking at you NASCAR App.
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You can uninstall a bunch of apps, but that toolbar you can't until we are rooted. Some sprint apps, Nascar, NBA you can.
I just disabled the toolbar in app settings for now
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schmeggy929 said:
You can uninstall a bunch of apps, but that toolbar you can't until we are rooted. Some sprint apps, Nascar, NBA you can.
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You probably can't uninstall the app if it is in /system until you are S-OFF. But you can flash a stock ROM with it removed with an unlocked bootloader + custom recovery.
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You can uninstall that Toolbar as well as all the other crapware, I'm looking at you NASCAR App.
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LOL! Yea I uninstalled this crapware too. What really made me mad was the crap Sprint ID added today. Fortunately I had just read what Sprint ID is. Or else I woulda thought my default profile was gone. Changed it back in the app and deleted the crapware that added too. Today I hate you Sprint. It is my phone not yours. Ugh.
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You probably can't uninstall the app if it is in /system until you are S-OFF. But you can flash a stock ROM with it removed with an unlocked bootloader + custom recovery.
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Yes /system is still write protected. Most ROMs will have all this bloatware removed.
Also unlock bootloader, then root and use your favorite app to freeze them until then.
Raech said:
LOL! Yea I uninstalled this crapware too. What really made me mad was the crap Sprint ID added today. Fortunately I had just read what Sprint ID is. Or else I woulda thought my default profile was gone. Changed it back in the app and deleted the crapware that added too. Today I hate you Sprint. It is my phone not yours. Ugh.
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That shyte does not let you revert properly..
I had to reconfigure my pages after I removed it..
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That shyte does not let you revert properly..
I had to reconfigure my pages after I removed it..
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Weird mine reverted fine. Buggy crap.
You don't need to uninstall it to remove it from the browser. Go to Settings>Application Manager>All or Downloaded (I forget)> then disable the app. Voila!
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You don't need to uninstall it to remove it from the browser. Go to Settings>Application Manager>All or Downloaded (I forget)> then disable the app. Voila!
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I for one knew this. I just wish it was not on the phone at all. It should be opt in if it's so great. LOL
Eh, helps with price subsidation. Same deal with desktops/laptops
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Will Google wallet keep on working ?
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Will Google wallet keep on working ?
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Yes I suppose, Google apps and services doesn't affected by device system changes, it's "cloud" stored.
This was sent from my Lenovo A850 via XDA mobile app.
Rooting only gives you more permission to modify the system settings, it doesn't have any affect on apps.
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Will Google wallet keep on working ?
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I don't use Google Wallet, but have used AT&T Softcard app. If you root Softcard will no longer work. It states that the device is rooted and the app will close after you acknowledge the warning.
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I don't use Google Wallet, but have used AT&T Softcard app. If you root Softcard will no longer work. It states that the device is rooted and the app will close after you acknowledge the warning.
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Google Wallet works with rooted Galaxy devices.
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I was wondering what the thing about warranty is.
does the warranty completely disappear?
Like if I break my phone is there nothing I can do to get the warranty back?
I am rooted and with xposed and root cloak Google wallet works.
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I was wondering what the thing about warranty is.
does the warranty completely disappear?
Like if I break my phone is there nothing I can do to get the warranty back?
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In Malaysia, yes. Once you root, there's no centre that accepts free service if you root.
However, it's vary by country, some still accept some are not.
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