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As the subject stated, I have enabled the "Use Wireless Networks" under Location & Security, however, Google Maps and any location-enabled apps still complaint that I need to "...enable My Location...".
Is this not working in the current version of HC or do I need to do something else?
Note that this is for location based on WIFI, not GPS since Nook Color doesn't have a GPS chipset.
Try enabling GPS if you haven't. I'm not having any trouble with both location systems turned on.
I did, and same error:
"Please enable My Location source in system settings"
FYI, I am using the following:
- Barnes and Nobles Nook Color
- Kingston 8GB Class 4 card
- Honeycomb 3.0 (Deeper Blue's Preview v04) installed on SD card (NOT internal ROM)
The Google Map application was installed separate than the Honeycomb image building. I.e. push via adb.
I'm getting the same message with both WiFi and GPS turned on.
I'm running HCv4 off a SanDisk SD with the Maps 5.0 apk (3d buildings, rotation and two-finger swipe work great)
Anyone else? Or location feature in HoneyComb for Nook Color is a known bug?
I haven't tried it on HC yet, but I did find that on CM7 the google maps location and navi only works with the settings a certain way. It may be something to do with my setup and the way other apps/settings are somehow affecting my location, but I was at work yesterday and it was showing my location as being in my apartment; which I obviously wasn't. It had done this previosly too and I never could figure it out, but I had been anywhere recently where I had a reason to use navi so I didn't mess with it a whole lot.
Yesterday I was on my lunch break and I decided I wanted to solve this issue, it was showing me as being at home when I wasn't, again. I tried clearing the app cache, data, I tried force stopping, resetting the device, and even powering off for a few minutes on both my phone and my nook. Since I couldn't figure out which device was causing the confusion about my location I tried all the above on both, but still nothing. Maps opened up and placed me at home again each time. So finally I opened maps on my Incredible and the location was right, it showed exactly where I was. Then I knew it was something to do with the nook. I went into the location settings where I had the wireless network location AND the gps satellite options checked. I unchecked the wireless network location option and force closed maps to open it again fresh. Worked right away and FINALLY didn't show the blue dot over my apartment. I used the navi on the way to work this morning just to test it and the location and everything else was perfect.
I know you are on HC and I'm not, but there are so many factors that have to be done just right it setting this up that maybe it's still just a tiny difference in your settings. Hope I helped, if even just a little bit. It seems to be that the wireless network for location was throwing mine off and giving a false reading.
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I have been trying for several day's to get the v4 to run and all I get is the locked partition error.
I have formatted the card (Patriot 16gb Class 10) several times.
It will run other roms including CM7 with out problems.
What is so different with the honeycomb one?
It doesn't work reliably but it does work on the 2nd of the eMMC Honeycomb.
Note that this is for location based on WIFI, not GPS since Nook Color doesn't have a GPS chipset.
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BTW, you can make it work with GPS Tethering, see this:
I have that card as well. I have installed several rom's using my Win7 x64 machine. ALL worked except the Honey. I tried writing the card on my eePC Net book. running WinXP. Success and it wrote @ 14.6 MB/s. I only get 4.3 MB/s on the win7 machine.
I believe that this ROM is VERY VERY sensitive to writing speed. I will test more and see what happens. BUT, If you have access to a WINXP machine. Try it and see what you get.
The ifixit teardown indicated the possibility of a GPS capable chip in the 7" model.
Anyone load a GPS app and see if you get any results?
Thanks!
Google Maps location doesn't work, and I have been unsuccessful sideloading any of the GPS apps I have available. All fail on install.
What about one of the free GPS apps on the Amazon app store, like:
http://www.amazon.com/EclipSim-GPS-...ps&ie=UTF8&qid=1348158531&sr=1-1&keywords=gps
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What about one of the free GPS apps on the Amazon app store, like:
http://www.amazon.com/EclipSim-GPS-...ps&ie=UTF8&qid=1348158531&sr=1-1&keywords=gps
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Hmm well interestingly enough that one installed. It took a while, but it gave me a coordinate read out as well (see screenshot, I blanked out my location but you can see what I mean). I'm not familiar with that app, so I don't know if it uses Wifi at all for determining location. It does have an option for "do not launch if GPS is not enabled" though and that is set by default. Yet, it works. You have my wondering now, I'll keep playing with some of the other apps I'm a bit more familiar with and see if I can get them to install.
The OS build might not have adequate drivers to run the GPS. This might get fixed once we get a different ROM....someday.
I have google maps up and running, though I believe it is functioning off wifi location, the location is off a little. I installed GPS satellite app and it launches, gives me data but does not show that it is picking up any satellites.
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I have google maps up and running, though I believe it is functioning off wifi location, the location is off a little. I installed GPS satellite app and it launches, gives me data but does not show that it is picking up any satellites.
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I got GPS Test Plus installed and see the same. It doesn't find any satellites, but it is indeed finding my location based on Wifi. Acurracy of only about 200 feet. Think we are SOL for now.
UPDATE: I am playing with it more (it has a handy green light when it has GPS signal) that is yellow with WIFI off, and Green with it on. Seems to indicate it only uses Wifi for location.
even if gps is on the chip, maybe there's no antenna ?
So far no joy on getting any sort of GPS working. I bought a TomTom BlueTooth GPS module and it will not pair with the Fire HD. I get a message saying that the BlueTooth device is not compatible. None of the apps to make it work will even install.
Amazon apparently went all out in preventing people from using GPS. From what I understand the Nook will allow you to use a BlueTooth GPS.
FWIW, I tried using Google Maps on the way to and from work the last few days, and it is starting to get pretty good at finding my location via WiFi. Most of the time it was showing me within a block of my actual location, and sometimes it was actually tracking me accurately, even showing me driving up to an intersection and stopping right at the intersection. It seems to get better every time I take the same route.
I did discover that the Fire HD has a magnetic compass and accelerometer. But the compass is not very reliable.
I have a sneaky suspicion that there were some lawyers involved in these decisions...
Amazon took it really out of their way to lock down their tablets. They don't want people to use anything that doesn't rely on their services. Such as maps, either it be google, Bing, tomtom, anything not made by them. Amazon never activated voice search, the potential is there (apk in system files) but until they make it used through their ecosystem, KFHD will probably never see it. They even make it annoying to change the keyboard. Supposedly according too their website, BT only works with headphones. That is a complete limitation and annoyance.
As for GPS, I can see it somewhat irrelevant on a device that is wifi only and was omitted, though I do enjoy it on my N7. Something, I believe it was hootsuite would constantly annoy me about location services when I had it turned off, as they claimed it was turned off via twitter and had no options and I had it off in my twitter. Location services on the KFHD killed my battery for some unknown reason.
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As for GPS, I can see it somewhat irrelevant on a device that is wifi only and was omitted, though I do enjoy it on my N7.
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How so? With Maps you can download your entire city to use offline. If you start Navigation while online, and give it a couple of minutes to cache the info, it will take you all the way to your destination offline. I tested this on a 5 hour trip, and the audible turn-by-turn took me all the way to the destination, even though in some places the map itself was blank, and it didn't know the name of the street or exit. "Take the exit on the right" instead of "Take exit 6" It was even able to do some limited rerouting offline (which is something fairly new)
Besides, now I have a MiFi and a phone with a portable HotSpot. .On long trips, however, I turn off the MiFi while underway unless I need a major reroute, or need to find something. On a long trip a few weeks ago, my wife called from our tax accountant's office and needed some info from an old bank statement. I was out in the middle of nowhere in Alabama, and I though I was going to have to drive to Birmingham to find a Wells Fargo. So I fired up the MiFi, and asked my N7 "Google...where is the nearest Wells Fargo?" and it found one in a small town less than 10 minutes away and led me straight there.
Driving in Atlanta drives me insane. Now with the MiFi and Google Maps, I can see where the stop-and-go traffic jams are and get around them.
Irrelevant??? Not hardly!
I REALLY wanted the GPS to work on the Fire HD because the pitiful speakers on the N7 aren't loud enough to hear turn-by-turn directions in heavy traffic or heavy rain, or while the radio is playing. And the washed out screen on the N7 makes it hard to make out the streets (white and yellow on off-white) They stand out much better on the Fire HD's screen.
Not everyone tethers data through their phone or device. Most cell phone plans still require additional payment services. I refuse to pay another $35-$40 a month just to tether data. If I want to use GPS, then I use my phone or my Garmin Nuvi, though I prefer google maps since they are mostly up to date.
Caching maps, ok, but you need to know exactly where you want to go. Without data, the GPS is useless unless you are using a strict GPS app to determine location only. Amazon took it out to reduce costs. While it's nice to have, it's irrelevant to their entertainment device, they don't want you to use maps anyways.
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Would it be possible to make a hack to enable spp bluetooth profile on KFHD. Because the tomtom bluetooth gps receiver uses that profile.
I have to completely agree with drhanley i wish i could have at least bluetooth gps on the kindle fire hd.
Drhanley have you seen in the android market bluetooth spp app make an app from the market could enable the spp profile needed for tomtom gps receiver ????????
Yes, I know there's another thread on Parallel Kingdom/Google Currents etc, but I wanted to highlight GPS Games as the thread topic. There's a handful of GPS games (Life is Magic, PK, Ingress) for Android and it would be nice to see them working for KF/KFHD. Apparently it's possible (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EE6voRHVawY) but no one has publicly explained how to do so. Hopefully someone out of the 4 million strong XDA community can publish a guide on how to accomplish this.
There are several threads dealing of Kindle and GPS, and, as the tablet lacks satellite tracking, there are two methods that seem to work, bluetooth dongle and tethering from a phone. Both systems require some app running in the background. I've tested the bluetooth dongle method, and only a few programs don't work well. Things have changed some with the last update, but is acceptable. I will test those programs for you...
I'm working now, but I've downloaded those three games on my phone. When I get home I'll side load them and test with my bluetooth dongle....
Thx. Just downloaded ingress and surprisingly it installed properly. Waiting for activation code so hopefully it works.
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Just read on Parallel Kingdom forum that someone got it working by installing Alien Droid (whatever that is)
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Hey gflorez,
As you know, I'm a total noob but I'm wondering what your opinion is on this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2163135? Could it be possible to get things running without bluetooth/tethering?
First of all, as you said, Ingress loads but waits for a code, and PK doesn't installs. That leaves us Life Is Magic as the only candidate to test(from now on LIS).
The problem with those type of games is that to play them in our Kindle it needs two things that it lacks, GPS and Internet. It has a pseudo localisation by wifi, but isn't as accurate as real GPS. On the other hand it can connect to Internet easily but needs an external provider of data by wifi.
My approach has been to give it coordinates by bluetooth from my GPS dongle and to give it Internet by tethering web data by wifi from my phone. Cumbersome but it has seemed to work ..... until I've run out of phone battery.
My question is, need LIS all the accuracy of a real GPS? or, if it exceeds its entertainment purpose, is the approximate wifi localisation of Kindle enough?
If so, just having a phone capable of "wifi zone" and a data rate would be sufficient as Kindle extracts coordinates from them. It is the next test I would do when my phone is fully loaded.... But if you have a phone like that, you can do the same test just now. If you need an explanation of that tell me.
Meanwhile I will test if installing Alien Droid¿? PK can be installed.
Kinology is based on a stock rom, and has the same benefits and disadvantages as can be achieved with the plain Kindle.
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EditK is a Jelly Bean app(the new version of Android system), so it does not install on the Kindle Fire Hd, that has ICS(a slight older but actual version of android). "Alien Droid" is a custom Jelly Bean rom made for the old Kindle Fire, incompatible with the completely different Kindle Fire Hd. Highway cut....
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Editing the edit: PK is compatible with Android 2.1 upwards, but seems that Amazon restricts its use "due to geographical restrictions" as I, European from Spain, can see on the USA web:
http://www.amazon.com/PerBlue-Inc-Parallel-Kingdom-AOT/dp/B004UO1QNC
It is the reason that an old Kindle Fire with a custom rom(Android Jelly Bean 4.2) or my phone with android 2.3.6 can play that game as there are not that restrictions.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20111226194127AAN3bgq
On that web, a member of PerBlue, creators of PK says: "Unfortunately Kindle Fire doesn't currently support the Google Maps API necessary to play Parallel Kingdom."
But.... I have google maps installed(courtesy by Prokennexusa) and it doesn't installs...
I'm currently testing if an installation extracted with Titanium backup can be forced inside the Kindle, but no....
Definitively Life of Magic doesn't needs very much location accuracy to be playable.... I've tested it by real GPS or by WIFI points. It only needs to be near the interaction point.
I wasn't aware that KF & HD were that much different.
Yes, I saw that post on Yahoo. However, I also read on PK forums where a PK employee has eluded that it's possible to play on KF (not sure about HD) as discussed here:
http://forum.parallelkingdom.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=20067&p=178336&hilit=kindle+fire#p178336
http://forum.parallelkingdom.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=21470&p=184356&hilit=kindle+fire#p184356
You don't need a real GPS location to play PK (I know bcuz I've played years ago and spoofed the location). If that makes any sense. Without a location spoof, you can still travel the entire world and back without ever hitting the relocate button just by getting invites.
So Life of Magic works with bluetooth dongle? What about playing it/getting it installed without additional hardware?
I'm curious as to why Ingress installs though. I imagine Ingress would be more GPS-oriented than both LIM & PK.
In the back of my mind, I think all 3 games are playable on KFHD without additional hardware...of course, I'm not even 5% as tech savvy as you are...but just a hunch, and based on the fact that I know PK is entirely playable without ever having GPS on (you just need Wifi).
Have you guys considered using 1MobileMarket?
This is a Kinology HD using XDA Premium
LIM accepts the Kindle as is, autolocating by wifi, but you need wifi then. You only can play in your house or a place that can provide internet data to your kindle, you are fixed to a place. But if you provide internet with your phone you are free and kindle can aproximatively locate you.
Im not an expert, only a little bit more expert than you, but only time.
Owning a dongle has make me me to neglect some the wifi location used by kindle, but now I can say that it needs to compare the sources of wifi near to "triangle" its position. It doesnt need to connect nor know keys of access, only interact. The problem is when your phone is the only wifi near, far from other residential wifi.
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Pardon LIM.......but LIS sounds better.....
Ive sideloaded hundreds of apps on my kindle, only few have hanged, and only three not installing. One of them is PK.
Kindle has an Android highly modificated, with an incompatibility of code that refuses apps perfectly compatible with other phones or tablets. Im not a programmer , I dont know why it refuses to install.
Ya LIM does work. Odd, it didn't install before. I wonder if a ingress will work.
So u think it's impossible to play PK on kfhd?
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Hello guys,
For a couple of months I have been testing several top roms for Galaxy S GT-I9000. The problem is that when I found the most stable and faster one (for my requirements), I have the same problem over and over again, being unable to find the cause. Everything is related to GPS tracking.
To start with the begining, I bought the phone as a present for my wife a while ago. Because of the fact that I wanted to be able to keep up with ALL new applications from Google Store, I have flashed Jellybean [X-bean 2 ROM] (finding it runing considerably faster than the actual third version).
However, after installing all the applications that we were using, I found out that after a couple of GPS (or network) tracking uses, the tracking part just stops working until reboot.
For example, in Viber you have the option to send location when writing a message. After a period of using it, it either keeps giving a past location (which sounds like getting stuck on a specific location fix) or even an error that is unable to locate or something like that.
We also considered funny to track when needed where each of us is (on our way) when we want to meet somewhere in the city after jobs. For that we have used "Where are you sweetie" application. After a few uses, it gives you a location updated dozens of minutes ago, or even "Unable to locate phone" message.
Additionally, for security purposes, I had installed Cerberus. As a test, I wanted to see if that fails too at the same chapter and of course, I got the same result. Either an old location (unless I force it to refresh by activating GPS real-time tracking) or even a "cannot communicate to the phone" sometimes.
The funny part is that after a restart it all works perfect for some time.
And I want to mention that this happened for all jellybean custom roms that I have tested.
I am sure that I am not the only one having the same problem, so even though this is not something that we couldn't have lived without, I was just curious if either of you guys have heard of this or of a fix for this issue.
I am seeing the following issue:
I have a Droid 4, patched to run in GSM networks, flashed with CM 10.2.1. In this configuration, bluetooth used to work on this phone at least one month ago (because that's when my wifes new phone was bought and there my phone is listed as a paired device). Some time during the last month, I wiped my phone and reflashed the same CM 10.2.1 onto it (quite a lot of cruft had accumulated and I was having battery issues and was just too lazy to track down the specific culprits).
And now, when I try to turn on bluetooth in the settings menu, the button moves to the "on" position but stays grey and nothing happens. When I close settings and reopen it, the button is in the "off" position again.
Also, when looking in "about phone" -> "status" -> "bluetooth address", the entry text says "unavailable".
Any ideas as to
* how to further debug this?
* how to get bluetooth working again?
resolved ..
Hello everyone.
To report back, the reason it wasn't working is that I was an idiot.
Notably, when scrolling through the list of installed apps yesterday (looking for something utterly unrelated) I noticed an app called "Disable Service". Hmmm, I thought to myself, I vaguely remember using this a few months ago when trying to tweak battery lifetime. So I opened it and found out that I had deactivated, among other things, all Bluetooth related background services, thinking "I never need Bluetooth anyway", probably.
So yeah. Reactivating them led to, surprisingly enough, Bluetooth working again.
Sorry for the noise.