hi! dunno if this is the right place to post this though!
is it possible to port windows rt to nexus 4 and dual boot it with android? would be just great!
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Yes it's the wrong place, this is for work you have done not requests.
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Well really general is for anything that involves the N4. since he didn't Development anything it doesn't go there. This could be posted in the Q/A other wise. To answer your question. Most likely the answer is no. Windows RT is closed source so it would be very hard for it to be ported to a Android phone. Also no one will most likely be willing to port it to our phone since we have a Great Android phone not a Windows Phone.
Even though they ported it to the HD2.
Eric-1987 said:
Even though they ported it to the HD2.
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Which is a Windows (Mobile) Phone
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Even though they ported it to the HD2.
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It could be possible but the dev coutulla(something like that) is responsible for porting xp, WP7, RT, and more. He has not changed devices so it is unlikely that someone else has his skillset because we haven't seen anyone successfully do what he did.
The dev that did that is a genius, but we might not be able to replicate that without a different boot loader. On android devices, the bootloaders are designed to load android, so we'd need a way to design or modify a boot loader to boot up another os like windows rt or boot2geckgo. Although this device is extremely open, the HTC hd2 is much more so in that you can modify every single aspect about it going even further than the os and mess with partitions that are locked down most of the time.
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Not 100% sure but since windows is closed source and copyrighted would it even be legal to port it? It would be like downloading pirated windows to your pc. I could see windows phones getting android but not the other way around
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i whas wondering, windowsphone 8 has not been ported coz its closed source.
if it whas open source, could it be ported to existing androids like galaxy s2 or xperia?
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Im pretty sure it isnt open source... but I may be wrong... but if it was open then it could be ported but it would need quite a bit if work done
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Im pretty sure it isnt open source... but I may be wrong... but if it was open then it could be ported but it would need quite a bit if work done
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wp8 isnt open source.
i think there needs to be alot done to make it even boot.
not?
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i whas wondering, windowsphone 8 has not been ported coz its closed source.
if it whas open source, could it be ported to existing androids like galaxy s2 or xperia?
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The short answer is, yes, but it won't be easy and it will take a long time to do so. I'm sure though it will be done because it will be quite a feather in their cap if a dev or team of devs could pull that off
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i whas wondering, windowsphone 8 has ......
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From what I understand the phones processor base would have to be x86-x64 capable.
Could be incorrect, yet I'm sure a ported windows would need friendly hardware so it would depend on the device.
NVIDIA lists CPU and OS compatibility charts (too lazy to look em up)
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From what I understand the phones processor base would have to be x86-x64 capable.
Could be incorrect, yet I'm sure a ported windows would need friendly hardware so it would depend on the device.
NVIDIA lists CPU and OS compatibility charts (too lazy to look em up)
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wp8 phones are ARM too. Not? correct me if im wrong
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Windows Phone 7 was ported to the HD2(aka, best phone ever).
It can be done, but it would be difficult.
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If ifs and buts were candy and nuts ib4l.
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Similarly, If only's and just's were candies and nuts, then everyday would be Erntedankfest!
Android bootloaders would have to be modified or over written to boot wp8. The moment we got it booting Microsoft would have a cease and desist order ready.
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Odp: If wp8 whas open-cource, could it be ported to existing android phones?
It could be, for sure. It supports ARM processors, so with a lot (and I mean A LOT) of work, it could be even a daily driver. But because it is closed source, it would be illegal to run it on anything that was not running any Windows originally.
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Can someone share the info related above with the topic
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Can someone share the info related above with the topic
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Windows Phone 8 is made for multi core processors phones
It can be backported and with the correct kernel modifications coild easily run on simgle core. Because the hd7 has a powerfull cpu
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We can run MacOSX on the PC, so nothing is impossible, but I don't believe that someone will do such hard work without good reason.
maya79 said:
We can run MacOSX on the PC, so nothing is impossible, but I don't believe that someone will do such hard work without good reason.
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This requires to have the working ROM Microsoft used for testing and development...
Its is a well known fact that WP8 was tested on the HD7, someone discovered the log about the "work in progress" of WP8 and the log clearly stated that the testing phone was the HD7.
Now, about the beta they used? Well getting our hands on that ROM, it's a challenge someone must face... (a real hacker, not those script kids, posers)
Ok, i bought my Nexus 7 2012 4-5 weeks ago, and ever since i have been trying to learn much about my Nexus 7 as possible. I'm already a mediocre on computers, i know the basics and every component of a computer. But i'm not familiar to Android.
Can someone inform me as to what is rooting? I already know some apps for android require rooting in order to operate and a pc is needed to root an android device, and to me rooting is like a counterpart to Apple IOS's jailbreaking?
I've searched many forums threads in many forums, many people talk of ROMS, when concerning the Nexus 7 and/or other Android devices.
Can someone tel me what ROMS are when concerning Android devices?
Any info is appreciated
Rooting is for Android is the equivalent to JailBreaking iOS.
ROMs are versions of Android built and developed by a third person.
Usually ROMs will have features that are not in stock Android.
Some ROMs are optimized for smoothness and speed others are visually more appealing.
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Rooting is for Android is the equivalent to JailBreaking iOS.
ROMs are versions of Android built and developed by a third person.
Usually ROMs will have features that are not in stock Android.
Some ROMs are optimized for smoothness and speed others are visually more appealing.
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Can you give me an example of a rooting method and an example of a android rom?
you can root using wug fresh nexus root toolkit, and you may have heard of cyanogenmod, one of the most frequent and well known roms for android
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Can you give me an example of a rooting method and an example of a android rom?
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There are tutorials in the stickies that cover how to root.
As for a ROM, the OS you are using on it is a Stock ROM.
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There are tutorials in the stickies that cover how to root.
As for a ROM, the OS you are using on it is a Stock ROM.
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^ this
Read, learn, understand and read some more...... before you touch a thing. Or trouble will come.
Having someone walk you thru it won't teach you anything....or help you to understand what you're doing.
Its very easy to brick your device if you do something incorrectly.
Just my advice!
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^ this
Read, learn, understand and read some more...... before you touch a thing. Or trouble will come.
Having someone walk you thru it won't teach you anything....or help you to understand what you're doing.
Its very easy to brick your device if you do something incorrectly.
Just my advice!
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Thank you for your information everyone, you helped me understand some of this, but i more question what is the term "Bricked"?
Is it a permanent error r crash in your device?
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Thank you for your information everyone, you helped me understand some of this, but i more question what is the term "Bricked"?
Is it a permanent error r crash in your device?
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A "brick" means your device is irrecoverable (from your perspective) and will not respond to any input whatsoever. Basically, your device becomes a paperweight.
Please understand this so that if/when something goes wrong, you don't post another thread screaming "MY TABLET IS BRICKED" when it's actually just bootloading or stuck on a boot screen.
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Rooting is for Android is the equivalent to JailBreaking iOS.
ROMs are versions of Android built and developed by a third person.
Usually ROMs will have features that are not in stock Android.
Some ROMs are optimized for smoothness and speed others are visually more appealing.
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Sort of... Rooting gives you access to everything on the device, while jailbreaking is still somewhat restricted. Also, jailbreaking is achieved by using exploits, while rooting is possible using utilities already built into the device for development purposes. This is why rooting is incredibly easy, safe, and cohesive across nexus devices and os versions.
It's actually quite hard to brick a nexus device. The only way I can think of is "fastboot erase bootloader". Stay away from that and you'll be okay
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Sort of... Rooting gives you access to everything on the device, while jailbreaking is still somewhat restricted. Also, jailbreaking is achieved by using exploits, while rooting is possible using utilities already built into the device for development purposes. This is why rooting is incredibly easy, safe, and cohesive across nexus devices and os versions.
It's actually quite hard to brick a nexus device. The only way I can think of is "fastboot erase bootloader". Stay away from that and you'll be okay
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Ahh but your definition of rooting is specific to nexus devices and not android devices in general.
Most non-nexus devices achieve rooting through one form of exploit or another.
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Ahh but your definition of rooting is specific to nexus devices and not android devices in general.
Most non-nexus devices achieve rooting through one form of exploit or another.
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True... But root is root. Once rooted, you've got access to everything.
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True... But root is root. Once rooted, you've got access to everything.
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Bootloader on a carrier locked device.
Haha, ok guys, i will just use my device plainly for a while until it gets boring then i'm gonna fill it with Roms and i will root it, do i need only one computer to root, it or i can use multiple. People say rooting your device makes i more vulnerable to drive-by virus downloads and stuff. should i listen to them or is it some anti-root bull****.
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Haha, ok guys, i will just use my device plainly for a while until it gets boring then i'm gonna fill it with Roms and i will root it, do i need only one computer to root, it or i can use multiple. People say rooting your device makes i more vulnerable to drive-by virus downloads and stuff. should i listen to them or is it some anti-root bull****.
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Why would you need multiple computers to unlock the bootloader, and flash a recovery? You only have to do it one time. You don't 'root' it every time you want to flash something....
Drive by viruses? Technically could happen without root, root doesn't automatically make it any more unsafe than no root. You just have to be smart about what you install.
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Id also recommend WugFresh's toolkit as well!
Simple to use and its quick, easy, and VERY USEFUL!
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Id also recommend WugFresh's toolkit as well!
Simple to use and its quick, easy, and VERY USEFUL!
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Actually the OP appears to want to learn about these things. Therefore a toolkit is a dumb idea.
You know that whole learning thing. Some people actually want to do that.
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Actually the OP appears to want to learn about these things. Therefore a toolkit is a dumb idea.
You know that whole learning thing. Some people actually want to do that.
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I was only giving my opinion as far as ease of use. Not used to peeps who actually want to work for unlock or root. Majority of people want to press a button and then have no clue what just happened.
Most don't even know what dalvik cache is! They might think it's a person! Lmao!
So I appreciate your correction. Also thanks for not chomping my head off to much!
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Thanks guys, in your opinion, which game pad controller do you guys think is best for android AND my laptop, i want one for android w/ pc. Is there one that even exists, i want to exclude xbox360 controllers an ps3 controllers.
Def don't use a toolkit cant learn much like that. Adb and fastboot is the easiest and safest way to root a nexus device.
So you can start there. Google has some pretty good into on doing all this. If your using a PC make sure to ga grab the drivers. (Linux and osx don't need drivers) and of course searching the nexus forums here at xda you can obtain tons of info. Everything I know I learned here and Google. (Not a pro or anything but know my way a little about android and rooting.
And always have fun.
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OP you familiar with Unix/Linux? Root is also used there and is relatively the same. Basically it gives you or root apps elevated permissions, like having admin permissions on a windows PC.
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Thanks guys, in your opinion, which game pad controller do you guys think is best for android AND my laptop, i want one for android w/ pc. Is there one that even exists, i want to exclude xbox360 controllers an ps3 controllers.
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I personally use a PS3 controller on my tablet and phone, because it can be paired via Bluetooth and I already had ps3 controllers. Figured its better than buying a BT controller specifically for android devices.
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More HTC One (M8) for Windows launch details leak out
http://www.phonedog.com/2014/07/29/...=Rss&utm_medium=Latest&utm_campaign=BlinkFeed
That story popped up on my BlinkFeed. It will become real news if Sprint every gets their hands on it.
Hopefully there is an m8 max
Popped up on mine also. I haven't used a window phone since the T-Mobile shadow.
method1911 M8
I've become really interested in Windows since 8. This would cool in my opinion.
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I really hope someone can dual boot the M8 between the Android and Windows.. That would be great for Windows phone operating system in general. People will get to try them and realize that they aren't that bad at all (as compared to what they used to be).
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I've become really interested in Windows since 8. This would cool in my opinion.
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I really hope someone can dual boot the M8 between the Android and Windows.. That would be great for Windows phone operating system in general. People will get to try them and realize that they aren't that bad at all (as compared to what they used to be).
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More than likely, this will happen. Especially if the hardware is exactly the same, I foresee this for the near future.
I would totally be down giving windows a go on this phone. i have never used a windows phone before.
Samsung is coming out with dual boot tablets.
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I would totally be down giving windows a go on this phone. i have never used a windows phone before.
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I love Android and Windows Phone. I have found that as Windows machines get smaller (My Dell venue pro 8, for instance), they are making my phone more of a messaging and talking device again. It's funny how this works. I'd love to get in on the WP action.
Unless they announce a WebOS option... we can dream, right?
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I love Android and Windows Phone. I have found that as Windows machines get smaller (My Dell venue pro 8, for instance), they are making my phone more of a messaging and talking device again. It's funny how this works. I'd love to get in on the WP action.
Unless they announce a WebOS option... we can dream, right?
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I would love to see what WebOS would be like on a device like this. My first smartphone was a Palm Pixi, and the interface was wonderful. It got really slow with time, and full data wipes didn't help anymore.
But that's just wishful thinking.
Back on topic, tho. Can anyone weigh in and comment on how likely it is that we'll be able to install the version of Windows Phone that was just released on our Sprint/Android versions?
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More HTC One (M8) for Windows launch details leak out
http://www.phonedog.com/2014/07/29/...=Rss&utm_medium=Latest&utm_campaign=BlinkFeed
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not really a leak....it's official...http://blog.htc.com/2014/08/htc-one-m8-for-windows/
exclusive for Verizon....not interested....Android FTW!
No, I'm not converting to WM either, even if it was to come to Sprint. However, I have never even seen WM live in person, and I wouldn't mind giving the Rom a flash.
Same here. I wouldn't buy it but if there was a port for Android m8 I would definitely flash the rom
I've suggested to HTC to make a dual boot for their top phone. So that, no matter which you buy, you can switch as you like. I guess it's gonna benefit MS more than HTC，but it could be a nice push for sale of the phone because it's just another unique feature that nobody really bothered to do.
I've used the WP 7 for a long time and like that very well. Since now the M8 takes SD card, the storage space is less a concern, so makes this even more workable.
IMO the best will be dual boot, so that you can choose on bootup, the second will be a flash, which would be harder to change. But either way, it'll be very neat.
Was just thinking the exact same thing
I've seen the buzz lately about the m8 Windows version, and when it finally clicked that they both had the same hardware I started digging around to see if I could find info on a possible port.
I did find this YouTube video, posted today, but the poster didn't give much information, only a link to what appears to be a ROM file https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_FHG7Uq3a8
Maybe someone more experienced than myself could look into the .zip to see what's going on in there or maybe help me find out where it came from - I'm sure this link didn't pop up from nowhere if it is truly legit.
Video was removed
found it file is less than 1mb .exe didnt want to risk it on my computer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvHUoznxjb8
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found it file is less than 1mb .exe didnt want to risk it on my computer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvHUoznxjb8
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Yeah, I checked it out and downloaded then ran it through an online virus scan, I don't trust it.
The video I posted before had a link to an 800mb file or so
Just read an article about the upcoming htc m8 windows phone. They had mentioned something about the bootloader being the same. Is the hardware the same too. Does this mean we may have an option to dual boot windows and android with our M8's?
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Just read an article about the upcoming htc m8 windows phone. They had mentioned something about the bootloader being the same. Is the hardware the same too. Does this mean we may have an option to dual boot windows and android with our M8's?
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Being able to bring windows to this phone is one thing, but making a dual boot is another. it's very difficult for an android phone to do so
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formulabird said:
Just read an article about the upcoming htc m8 windows phone. They had mentioned something about the bootloader being the same. Is the hardware the same too. Does this mean we may have an option to dual boot windows and android with our M8's?
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There was something for the original One and other phones such as the Nexus 5 called MultiROM that allowed just this. Currently there is a thread in the main M8 forum about porting this to the M8 so we may and most likely will see dual boot in the semi near future. Especially considering more people would probably want to dual boot if they had 2 separate operating systems to work with instead of just ROM's you know? Well in short I'd think that'd increase the demand for such a thing.
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Being able to bring windows to this phone is one thing, but making a dual boot is another. it's very difficult for an android phone to do so
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Do you think we'll see Windows on this phone?
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There was something for the original One and other phones such as the Nexus 5 called MultiROM that allowed just this. Currently there is a thread in the main M8 forum about porting this to the M8 so we may and most likely will see dual boot in the semi near future. Especially considering more people would probably want to dual boot if they had 2 separate operating systems to work with instead of just ROM's you know? Well in short I'd think that'd increase the demand for such a thing.
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I agree, I love the possibility of a dual booting OS on a phone
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Do you think we'll see Windows on this phone?
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I asked that question Myself before... I don't have the answer however I know a bit about dual boot and I don't think those people are interested
The most common and easy approach to dual booting is safestrap, but that relies on a common kernel in the one phone I've seen it in... so I don't see it working to do this, they couldn't even manage to dual boot tw+aosp (tw=touchwiz, Samsung's ui, much like sense)
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