Just read an article about the upcoming htc m8 windows phone. They had mentioned something about the bootloader being the same. Is the hardware the same too. Does this mean we may have an option to dual boot windows and android with our M8's?
formulabird said:
Just read an article about the upcoming htc m8 windows phone. They had mentioned something about the bootloader being the same. Is the hardware the same too. Does this mean we may have an option to dual boot windows and android with our M8's?
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Being able to bring windows to this phone is one thing, but making a dual boot is another. it's very difficult for an android phone to do so
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formulabird said:
Just read an article about the upcoming htc m8 windows phone. They had mentioned something about the bootloader being the same. Is the hardware the same too. Does this mean we may have an option to dual boot windows and android with our M8's?
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There was something for the original One and other phones such as the Nexus 5 called MultiROM that allowed just this. Currently there is a thread in the main M8 forum about porting this to the M8 so we may and most likely will see dual boot in the semi near future. Especially considering more people would probably want to dual boot if they had 2 separate operating systems to work with instead of just ROM's you know? Well in short I'd think that'd increase the demand for such a thing.
reinaldistic said:
Being able to bring windows to this phone is one thing, but making a dual boot is another. it's very difficult for an android phone to do so
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Do you think we'll see Windows on this phone?
S1L3nTShaDoWz said:
There was something for the original One and other phones such as the Nexus 5 called MultiROM that allowed just this. Currently there is a thread in the main M8 forum about porting this to the M8 so we may and most likely will see dual boot in the semi near future. Especially considering more people would probably want to dual boot if they had 2 separate operating systems to work with instead of just ROM's you know? Well in short I'd think that'd increase the demand for such a thing.
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I agree, I love the possibility of a dual booting OS on a phone
mstrblueskys said:
Do you think we'll see Windows on this phone?
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I asked that question Myself before... I don't have the answer however I know a bit about dual boot and I don't think those people are interested
The most common and easy approach to dual booting is safestrap, but that relies on a common kernel in the one phone I've seen it in... so I don't see it working to do this, they couldn't even manage to dual boot tw+aosp (tw=touchwiz, Samsung's ui, much like sense)
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hi! dunno if this is the right place to post this though!
is it possible to port windows rt to nexus 4 and dual boot it with android? would be just great!
Yes it's the wrong place, this is for work you have done not requests.
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unlvmike said:
Yes it's the wrong place, this is for work you have done not requests.
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Well really general is for anything that involves the N4. since he didn't Development anything it doesn't go there. This could be posted in the Q/A other wise. To answer your question. Most likely the answer is no. Windows RT is closed source so it would be very hard for it to be ported to a Android phone. Also no one will most likely be willing to port it to our phone since we have a Great Android phone not a Windows Phone.
Even though they ported it to the HD2.
Eric-1987 said:
Even though they ported it to the HD2.
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Which is a Windows (Mobile) Phone
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Eric-1987 said:
Even though they ported it to the HD2.
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It could be possible but the dev coutulla(something like that) is responsible for porting xp, WP7, RT, and more. He has not changed devices so it is unlikely that someone else has his skillset because we haven't seen anyone successfully do what he did.
The dev that did that is a genius, but we might not be able to replicate that without a different boot loader. On android devices, the bootloaders are designed to load android, so we'd need a way to design or modify a boot loader to boot up another os like windows rt or boot2geckgo. Although this device is extremely open, the HTC hd2 is much more so in that you can modify every single aspect about it going even further than the os and mess with partitions that are locked down most of the time.
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Not 100% sure but since windows is closed source and copyrighted would it even be legal to port it? It would be like downloading pirated windows to your pc. I could see windows phones getting android but not the other way around
Can someone share the info related above with the topic
MeTinnn said:
Can someone share the info related above with the topic
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Windows Phone 8 is made for multi core processors phones
It can be backported and with the correct kernel modifications coild easily run on simgle core. Because the hd7 has a powerfull cpu
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We can run MacOSX on the PC, so nothing is impossible, but I don't believe that someone will do such hard work without good reason.
maya79 said:
We can run MacOSX on the PC, so nothing is impossible, but I don't believe that someone will do such hard work without good reason.
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This requires to have the working ROM Microsoft used for testing and development...
Its is a well known fact that WP8 was tested on the HD7, someone discovered the log about the "work in progress" of WP8 and the log clearly stated that the testing phone was the HD7.
Now, about the beta they used? Well getting our hands on that ROM, it's a challenge someone must face... (a real hacker, not those script kids, posers)
Hey guys - quick question, and sorry if this has been answered before. I did a quick search and couldn't find an answer under FAQ or recent threads. I apologize in advance for any duplicativeness. Here it goes:
I ended up getting my One directly through T-Mobile, so it's not the HTC developer edition or unlocked model. Once I unlock/root my "TMo" HTC One, will the ROMs under the "HTC One" dev forums work, or do I have to stick to the ones posted on the "T-Mobile HTC One" dev threads? Thanks in advance.
They will work on your T mobile HTC One.
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Do I need to do anything after flashing ROMs from this forum to "adjust " them to tmo radios or anything?
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Hate to shamelessly bump, but can anyone confirm this?
No, tmobile varients are supported on nearly any Rom out atm
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ManBearPig618 said:
Do I need to do anything after flashing ROMs from this forum to "adjust " them to tmo radios or anything?
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Have you seen those custom desktops, Like Stardock or Fences, that have widgets and functions you can't get in regular windows? This is far from 100% accurate but think of the rom as the skin over windows. Those never really effect your drivers(the radio) since they just tweak your GUI so as long as they can run on your hardware you'll never have to worry about them effecting your printer.
Does that make sense or is my brain fried from my self directed 36 hour crash course on this forum?
BableMan said:
Have you seen those custom desktops, Like Stardock or Fences, that have widgets and functions you can't get in regular windows? This is far from 100% accurate but think of the rom as the skin over windows. Those never really effect your drivers(the radio) since they just tweak your GUI so as long as they can run on your hardware you'll never have to worry about them effecting your printer.
Does that make sense or is my brain fried from my self directed 36 hour crash course on this forum?
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Makes enough sense. I've only ever rooted/unlocked/flashed ROMs on Nexus devices, so I just want to make sure I know what I'm doing before I dive in here. Thanks!
ManBearPig618 said:
Makes enough sense. I've only ever rooted/unlocked/flashed ROMs on Nexus devices, so I just want to make sure I know what I'm doing before I dive in here. Thanks!
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IDK about ARHD, but triuckdroid will ask you AT&T/INTL/T-MO before you flash, so everything works correctly. I believe all HTC Ones in the US(So Far) are the same as the INTL..... there's a thread about it somewhere.... But just make sure you have the right APN settings. P.S New radios are usually a good thing if you have bad signal all the time (WiFi/Cellular).
Has this been confirmed by anyone else?
Hello
As you know the release of Samsung Galaxy S4 GE and HTC One GE offering the same flavour as Nexus users already have a taste for.
Do you think inclusion of the new type of camera app and various other features in these junks defeats the purpose of owning a Nexus? It is we who should get the update of even a minute bug squash or changes to any core app.
What would be the update cycle of these junk phones? Will the Android updates be prioritised for the Nexus or will it released for the junks together?
Sorry for being rude, as a loyal Nexus fan, I seriously hate these so called idiotic Google Edition.
ngr.hd said:
Hello
As you know the release of Samsung Galaxy S4 GE and HTC One GE offering the same flavour as Nexus users already have a taste for.
Do you think inclusion of the new type of camera app and various other features in these junks defeats the purpose of owning a Nexus? It is we who should get the update of even a minute big squash or changes to any core app.
What would be the update cycle of these junk phones? Will the Android updates be prioritised for the Nexus or will it released for the junks together?
Sorry if I was rude, being a loyal Nexus fan, I seriously hate these so called idiotic Google Edition.
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Well, this killed it for me
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...play-edition-one-or-s4-oems-will-handle-otas/
trentreed said:
Well, this killed it for me
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...play-edition-one-or-s4-oems-will-handle-otas/
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I'm right there with you buddy. The reason I love Nexus devices is, if something goes wrong I can flash the factory image and everything is good again. No factory image from Google = no go for me.
Edit: Before I start to see "HTC has the ruu and Samsung phones use Odin to flash back to stock". I don't like one click methods. I want to fastboot flash all the images one at a time so I can see what's going on.
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trentreed said:
Well, this killed it for me
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...play-edition-one-or-s4-oems-will-handle-otas/
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Bullseye!
Just wondering if you can flash sense/touchwiz to these phones.
LoVeRice said:
Just wondering if you can flash sense/touchwiz to these phones.
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Why would someone do that? Just get the regular version...
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lyall29 said:
I'm right there with you buddy. The reason I love Nexus devices is, if something goes wrong I can flash the factory image and everything is good again. No factory image from Google = no go for me.
Edit: Before I start to see "HTC has the ruu and Samsung phones use Odin to flash back to stock". I don't like one click methods. I want to fastboot flash all the images one at a time so I can see what's going on.
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Its the same thing... You can see it happening step by step and what's occurring during each step.. That's silly if you ask me..
What turns me off is the simple fact that they are fake nexus devices.. While we will get Google updates almost immediately, those devices still have to rely on HTC or Samsung remembering to keep their thumbs out of their asses..
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http://www.droid-life.com/2013/06/2...eive-updates-shortly-after-they-are-released/
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Well, this killed it for me
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...play-edition-one-or-s4-oems-will-handle-otas/
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I sound like a broken record saying this since day 1. The OEMs have to put their proprietary drivers and kernels (firmware) into the image or the software wont' know how to communicate with the hardware. I guess if the OEMs were willing to release them to Google then I guess Google could handle the updates. Then you have to ask: why would Google take on that responsibility? Would the OEMs openly give Google those drivers in a day and age where anyone can sue anyone over anything because something looks similar to something else? None of that makes sense.
Yeah I'm kinda dissapointed... I want the latest and greatest on my N4 but still don't have it... Hopefully it's just a matter of days... Hopefully hours....
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PJcastaldo said:
Its the same thing... You can see it happening step by step and what's occurring during each step.. That's silly if you ask me..
What turns me off is the simple fact that they are fake nexus devices.. While we will get Google updates almost immediately, those devices still have to rely on HTC or Samsung remembering to keep their thumbs out of their asses..
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One click methods are in no way "the same thing".
Edit: I'm not trying to start an argument here, its my personal preference. If you like one click methods then thats fine.
ngr.hd said:
Do you think inclusion of the new type of camera app and various other features in these junks defeats the purpose of owning a Nexus? It is we who should get the update of even a minute bug squash or changes to any core app.
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I don't understand what you are saying. What other "features" are you talking about? A red phase beam wallpaper? These phones haven't been released yet. My guess is the N4 will get those changes when 4.3 is released which may come before the GE phones are even released. Most likely lots of backend changes to the camera were needed to get it to work with the new driver hardware in the GE phones.
Once they launch will be the last time they have something the Nexus doesn't. The moment Google said that HTC/Samsung were responsible for updates and they weren't hosting/posting source means those phones will almost certainly be behind the Nexus.
bozzykid said:
I don't understand what you are saying. What other "features" are you talking about? A red phase beam wallpaper? These phones haven't been released yet. My guess is the N4 will get those changes when 4.3 is released which may come before the GE phones are even released. Most likely lots of backend changes to the camera were needed to get it to work with the new driver hardware in the GE phones.
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That's the point, why are GEs getting the new camera app with new arc like settings and Nexus are left behind. Why is that "we" should wait for 4.3 and expect that the new camera would be included in that. It is a clear blow to the loyal Nexus owners who actually gets all updates to the Android first, even a small bug squash.
And talking about other features, I'm sure there would be some still hidden not available to the Nexus owners.
lyall29 said:
I'm right there with you buddy. The reason I love Nexus devices is, if something goes wrong I can flash the factory image and everything is good again. No factory image from Google = no go for me.
Edit: Before I start to see "HTC has the ruu and Samsung phones use Odin to flash back to stock". I don't like one click methods. I want to fastboot flash all the images one at a time so I can see what's going on.
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+1 Only Nexus reveal the real beauty of Android.
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That's the point, why are GEs getting the new camera app with new arc like settings and Nexus are left behind. Why is that "we" should wait for 4.3 and expect that the new camera would be included in that. It is a clear blow to the loyal Nexus owners who actually gets all updates to the Android first, even a small bug squash.
And talking about other features, I'm sure there would be some still hidden still not available to the Nexus owners.
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Oh boo-hoo. We'll get an update soon enough.
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El Daddy said:
Oh boo-hoo. We'll get an update soon enough.
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Hmm...wait and watch.
why are some people sooo sensitive, "my nexus should get this first" , "all others must wait" ...
look a little out of the box, these Google Edition phones are promoting stock android, whether they'll get updates parallel with the nexus or will join after a few days/weeks delay it doesn't matter. We all want more stock android options, and that's a step in the right direction, popularizing stock bloat-free android.
So, yeah, grow up and stop acting like samsung galaxy/iphone/etc.. blinded fanboys.
Can't believe you guys are complaining about a new camera app and live wallpaper. Nexus is just asop pure android 100% Google stuff... Doesn't mean Google owes us latest of the latest updates.
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ngr.hd said:
That's the point, why are GEs getting the new camera app with new arc like settings and Nexus are left behind. Why is that "we" should wait for 4.3 and expect that the new camera would be included in that. It is a clear blow to the loyal Nexus owners who actually gets all updates to the Android first, even a small bug squash.
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How do you know the GE phones will get those features first? They haven't even been released yet? And they won't be in users hands until after July 9th.
More HTC One (M8) for Windows launch details leak out
http://www.phonedog.com/2014/07/29/...=Rss&utm_medium=Latest&utm_campaign=BlinkFeed
That story popped up on my BlinkFeed. It will become real news if Sprint every gets their hands on it.
Hopefully there is an m8 max
Popped up on mine also. I haven't used a window phone since the T-Mobile shadow.
method1911 M8
I've become really interested in Windows since 8. This would cool in my opinion.
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I really hope someone can dual boot the M8 between the Android and Windows.. That would be great for Windows phone operating system in general. People will get to try them and realize that they aren't that bad at all (as compared to what they used to be).
lawnguy said:
I've become really interested in Windows since 8. This would cool in my opinion.
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cfcgasman said:
I really hope someone can dual boot the M8 between the Android and Windows.. That would be great for Windows phone operating system in general. People will get to try them and realize that they aren't that bad at all (as compared to what they used to be).
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More than likely, this will happen. Especially if the hardware is exactly the same, I foresee this for the near future.
I would totally be down giving windows a go on this phone. i have never used a windows phone before.
Samsung is coming out with dual boot tablets.
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Thisismyringtone said:
I would totally be down giving windows a go on this phone. i have never used a windows phone before.
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I love Android and Windows Phone. I have found that as Windows machines get smaller (My Dell venue pro 8, for instance), they are making my phone more of a messaging and talking device again. It's funny how this works. I'd love to get in on the WP action.
Unless they announce a WebOS option... we can dream, right?
mstrblueskys said:
I love Android and Windows Phone. I have found that as Windows machines get smaller (My Dell venue pro 8, for instance), they are making my phone more of a messaging and talking device again. It's funny how this works. I'd love to get in on the WP action.
Unless they announce a WebOS option... we can dream, right?
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I would love to see what WebOS would be like on a device like this. My first smartphone was a Palm Pixi, and the interface was wonderful. It got really slow with time, and full data wipes didn't help anymore.
But that's just wishful thinking.
Back on topic, tho. Can anyone weigh in and comment on how likely it is that we'll be able to install the version of Windows Phone that was just released on our Sprint/Android versions?
motoelliot said:
More HTC One (M8) for Windows launch details leak out
http://www.phonedog.com/2014/07/29/...=Rss&utm_medium=Latest&utm_campaign=BlinkFeed
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not really a leak....it's official...http://blog.htc.com/2014/08/htc-one-m8-for-windows/
exclusive for Verizon....not interested....Android FTW!
No, I'm not converting to WM either, even if it was to come to Sprint. However, I have never even seen WM live in person, and I wouldn't mind giving the Rom a flash.
Same here. I wouldn't buy it but if there was a port for Android m8 I would definitely flash the rom
I've suggested to HTC to make a dual boot for their top phone. So that, no matter which you buy, you can switch as you like. I guess it's gonna benefit MS more than HTC，but it could be a nice push for sale of the phone because it's just another unique feature that nobody really bothered to do.
I've used the WP 7 for a long time and like that very well. Since now the M8 takes SD card, the storage space is less a concern, so makes this even more workable.
IMO the best will be dual boot, so that you can choose on bootup, the second will be a flash, which would be harder to change. But either way, it'll be very neat.
Was just thinking the exact same thing
I've seen the buzz lately about the m8 Windows version, and when it finally clicked that they both had the same hardware I started digging around to see if I could find info on a possible port.
I did find this YouTube video, posted today, but the poster didn't give much information, only a link to what appears to be a ROM file https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_FHG7Uq3a8
Maybe someone more experienced than myself could look into the .zip to see what's going on in there or maybe help me find out where it came from - I'm sure this link didn't pop up from nowhere if it is truly legit.
Video was removed
found it file is less than 1mb .exe didnt want to risk it on my computer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvHUoznxjb8
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found it file is less than 1mb .exe didnt want to risk it on my computer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvHUoznxjb8
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Yeah, I checked it out and downloaded then ran it through an online virus scan, I don't trust it.
The video I posted before had a link to an 800mb file or so