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[Q] How Do You Like This Tab?

Hello, I'm thinking of getting the 7" Galaxy Tab (wifi only) and wanted to see what everyone thought about it. What are the pros/cons, and is this the best tablet out there for the money?
We currently have a rooted Nook, so I imagine it will be close to that (but better) - but that is my wife's. I wanted something for myself, something with great hardware performance, but also easier to carry around than an iPad2.
What do you guys think?

Galaxy Tab will be your choice for mobility and performance. After you root it and load with custom Rom , you will fall in love with it. My son loves it

I think that it's a good idea, but keep in mind that the Nook Color is really customizable and is offered at a low price. What you do get with the Tab is better performance, better screen, and... Well, just about better everything, except the price tag and the battery life.
However, consider getting the 3G version as well if you really plan to use the internet anywhere. It's fun!

pendevous said:
I think that it's a good idea, but keep in mind that the Nook Color is really customizable and is offered at a low price. What you do get with the Tab is better performance, better screen, and... Well, just about better everything, except the price tag and the battery life.
However, consider getting the 3G version as well if you really plan to use the internet anywhere. It's fun!
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Isn't it like $20/month? I'm going to be getting a Samsung Epic here soon, and I live in Kansas City so 4G is great here.
I was trying to avoid a monthly plan. Plus I'm also leaving for Paris at the end of August for 9 months. Didn't figure I'd be using 3G much while overseas...

I would avoid it - mine is laggy and expensive
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brilldoctor said:
I would avoid it - mine is laggy and expensive
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user error.

piercenkc said:
Isn't it like $20/month? I'm going to be getting a Samsung Epic here soon, and I live in Kansas City so 4G is great here.
I was trying to avoid a monthly plan. Plus I'm also leaving for Paris at the end of August for 9 months. Didn't figure I'd be using 3G much while overseas...
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The wifi version is crippled, go with the 3g. No h264 decoding, up to 720p only (and only in mp4!), and different hardware so you will need to get a custom rom for the wifi version, one for the 3g wouldn't work. Apparently they don't even have the same cpu...
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The wifi version is crippled, go with the 3g. No h264 decoding, up to 720p only (and only in mp4!), and different hardware so you will need to get a custom rom for the wifi version, one for the 3g wouldn't work. Apparently they don't even have the same cpu...
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source? I'm curious about this.

Galaxy tab is the best . but why u wont wait for tab10.1 and don't tell me is big ..
yeah is big . but OMG

i would say that the gtab is the best device i have ever bought. i have no regrets purchasing it for the full price. no other tablet (thats out now) can compete with this 7" beauty. its the best 7" tablet on the market right now,hands down! screw the nook color. i use this thing every single day. its my main device, i carry only this device, no cell phone. battery life is great for its size. but after 6 months of using it, i feel like i need to upgrade it. i know this seems like a total 180, but i want a dual core version with honeycomb (and some more RAM) but with the exact same size. everything else is great! the only reason im saying this is because i consider myself a heavy power user (the elite of the elite) and i feel like sometimes it just doesnt keep up. but if ur not like me then this will feel like its blazin fast for you. since i know that i wont get what i want, i still recommend this to people considering a nook color something else.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1038171
Have a look at this thread, it seems the wifi tab can only play divx at 720p and not h264 720p like the 3g can. If video playback is a major reason for buying the tab then stick to the 3g version!
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piercenkc said:
Hello, I'm thinking of getting the 7" Galaxy Tab (wifi only) and wanted to see what everyone thought about it. What are the pros/cons, and is this the best tablet out there for the money?
We currently have a rooted Nook, so I imagine it will be close to that (but better) - but that is my wife's. I wanted something for myself, something with great hardware performance, but also easier to carry around than an iPad2.
What do you guys think?
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The Tab is by far the best phone/tablet hybrid out there right now. The important factors to me are:
* size (pocketable)
* screen resolution
* build quality
* GPU acceleration for HD video
I took it with me last week while travelling around Krakow, Poland. Picked up a Polish Internet SIM for £10 or so. It was like having a personal guide at all times. Google Places, Tripadvisor app, email, websites. All there at the touch of a button, and all pocketable. An iPad would be useless for such a trip.
I think it's best to think of the Galaxy Tab as a sort of phone/tablet hybrid rather than just a tablet. Honeycomb will not be targeted at this device as physically it's as much a phone as a tablet. This is a good thing as Honeycomb tablets are too big to carry around town and are lacking in telephony. The OS update after Honeycomb will bring that OS's functionality for smaller devices, but for now it can seem an oddity as it needs a phone OS (Froyo, Gingerbread etc) to be fully functional.
As it stand though, there's nothing that can match it .

I originally bought the Viewsonic G-Tab because it had the Tegra 2 processor and Xoom like hardware. Even though the screen was 10.1" it was terrible to see from almost all angles.
I decided to exchange it for the wifi only Tab and I have not been disappointed. It looks great and I actually think I prefer the smaller screen than I did the 10.1 tablet. I find the weight is more evenly distributed in your hands and that I can more easily type since my hands can span the screen. It doesn't sound like a big deal but unlike my phone I find myself using this thing for hours at a time and holding the larger heavier tablet wears on you after a while.
The battery life is decent even with heavy use. The device feels sturdy and well put together. I think the touch is responsive and the glare on the glass is not any worse then the other tablets out there.
I know I have heard how the wifi version is not as good as the 3G version. Honestly, I have a Vibrant that I can tether off of and I don't need the 3G and added monthly costs. I am almost always around an access point anyway. It runs fast and downloads better than my phone. I would like to have custom roms to put on it but I rooted it and added VT-Launcher and it looks like a different tablet.
Finally, I looked at Honeycomb and those tablets. I really don't see the big deal. The 2.2.1 FroYo does everything that you would want from a tablet with the right apps. I can do everything I need to and then some. Honeycomb isn't going to add any capabilities that I don't already have. My only complaints with the Tab is that it doesn't charge with the USB from a PC (at least very fast) and that the VPN isn't working for me with PPTP right now. I have a call into Samsung and I hope to get that resolved soon. Otherwise, this is a great buy.

TooSlo said:
source? I'm curious about this.
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As Sarsippius already posted, this thread has some hard facts http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12957975
See the box pictures in that thread?
Now,
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Notice any difference from my P1000 box?
Edit: uploading pictures with Tapatalk apparently generates a thumbnail sized image. Anyway, it says full hd is supported...
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AlexTheStampede said:
As Sarsippius already posted, this thread has some hard facts http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12957975
See the box pictures in that thread?
Now,
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Notice any difference from my P1000 box?
Edit: uploading pictures with Tapatalk apparently generates a thumbnail sized image. Anyway, it says full hd is supported...
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There we go, I think I fixed that. Sorry for the double post.
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i'm still having doubts with my Tab (wifi version) since i'm unable to "use" its full potential. i didn't bother though getting the 3g version since i have a small phone at hand.
i'm a little unsatisfied but it's all good. i primarily use it for viewing and editing documents, surfing the net and some music and audio. that's pretty much it. if there's someone who'd be able to do a custom rom for the wifi version, then i'd be recommending this Tab.

I have both a Nook and a Sprint G-tab. If I wouldnt have gotten the deal I did on the G-Tab (company paid for it) I would return it. not that it is a bad unit, I am pretty pleased with it. My Nook has CM7 loaded on it and comparing the two comes out pretty much a wash. They are both great devices. I use the crap out of a tablet and both do everything that I want them to do.
Just my $.02 on the subject.

It should of been 7.7" !!

I'm looking for a android device to start learning and experimenting on...would like to learn Java in the long run.
I feel a nexus device is probably the best place to start but God dang! that Bezel! Can't stop staring at it...like a huge mole on someones nose or something lol
It should of been 7.7" !!!
Its really putting me off pre ordering, now i'll have to wait and see it in person.
I'm beggining to get my hopes up that Asus will soon release a 'better' version like samsung does after producing the nexus phones.

Too bad you don't like it - but you hold the tablet by the bezel.
In landscape, you hold it with both hands...
Personally, I prefer holding the bezel to accidentally clicking on the touch surface.

I don't see a problem with the bezel. On a phone it would be overkill but you hold tablets in a different way unless you have huge monster hands.
I've also decided to try my hand at a bit of coding and I can't wait until I get to the stage when I can apply it on my Nexus 7 (when I get it).

I'm not talking about the side bezel (portrait mode) its the thick top and bottom that gets me. I feel that even when i'm using it, it will get under my skin. I hope it grows on me in 2 weeks (should be released by then).
The thickness of it seems more than adequate for gripping it properly...even though now that I was holding up a magazine I'm starting to see your point.
It still should of been 7.7 though
Brac20 said:
I've also decided to try my hand at a bit of coding and I can't wait until I get to the stage when I can apply it on my Nexus 7 (when I get it).
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Do you currently code?
What you looking to get into?

Yeh I agree aswell. 7.7 would've been a great form factor. Like Samsung's model.
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The Nexus 7 is 7". If you want something different, don't buy it. It's that simple.

nerfman100 said:
The Nexus 7 is 7". If you want something different, don't buy it. It's that simple.
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Wow whose getting their panties in a twist? Why are you getting all defensive their dude?
I just shared my opinion to see if I was the only one and obviously there was a reason to a thick bezel. Thanks to a couple of friendly fellow members above they proved to me that the top and bottom bezel is handy...so i'll probably use it and forget about the bezel.
Same goes for design, maybe it has its place that I just didn't consider

Martias Duarte, the current Director of User Experience at Android, said the large bezels were a conscious choice, for both aesthetic and usability reasons. He said it will probably go under appreciated, and may even remain unnoticed, but he holds the design of the Nexus 7 very close to his heart.
The asymmetrical bezels were implemented so that you can hold the device nicely in landscape, play games efficiently, and also because artwork is often matted asymmetrically.

mojo22 said:
Do you currently code?
What you looking to get into?
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No but it's always something I've liked the idea of. I like to think that my mind works in a logical way (although I guess that remains to be seen).
I don't really know where I want it to lead. At the moment its just a challenge I have set myself. I am starting right at the foundations on CodeAcademy (which uses Javascript). Just finishing the tutorial section on functions.

nerfman100 said:
The Nexus 7 is 7". If you want something different, don't buy it. It's that simple.
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Yea really, its not worth getting frustrated or bummed out about.. That's what it is, so either buy it or don't buy it.
Make sure Google checks the forums before they make their next product to make sure every spec that everyone wants will be in the device.

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mojo22 said:
I'm looking for a android device to start learning and experimenting on...would like to learn Java in the long run.
It should of been 7.7" !!!
That's what she said!
Sorry, couldn't help it.
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I have a nook color, and I can speak for the need of a large bezel on a 7" device. I ended up getting a case that folds like a book just so that I'd have something else to hold on to.

I disagree with Matias Duarte completely on the need for larger bezels. I don't mind a thicker device, but I absolutely want the front face to be all screen and no bezel (i.e. a few mm on the side and 5 mm top and bottom). Any concerns for aesthetics (really?) or the need to hold on to something are overridden by the desire to get the thing in a jacket pocket. Nevertheless I ordered a Nexus 7 not because I appreciate the physical design - I don't, I think it's ugly. But who cares, I wanted the Nexus experience and after being disappointed by all the Nexus phones, at least now I can get a device with low financial commitment (low initial cost and no monthly plan) that is the pure Google experience.
I hope in the future that Google comes out with a Nexus 6 using something like Toshiba's very high resolution 6" panel with almost no bezel. Until then, I'll play with the Nexus 7 and dream about the future.
Dara Parsavand

First world problems! jk
I'm fine with the 7" design. It don't matter to me because I just want a more portable tablet for use while on the bus to work. My TouchPad is too bulky for everyday use (for me at least).
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mojo22 said:
It still should of been 7.7 though
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it hurts my eyes ...
http://www.engvid.com/grammar-past-tense-should/

well there are rumors of a larger nexus tablet. imo the nexus 7 is the perfect size. its about the size of a dvd case which is easy to handle with one hand, large enough to read pages and small enough to where you dont have to carry it in purse or backpack.

I think the bezel on the bottom really sticks out because of those on screen soft keys. I realize that has been pretty standard since ICS though. I don't know how much sense Matias Duarte makes on the whole design of the bezel on the Nexus 7 as being similar to a matted frame. I haven't seen a whole lot of framing with a longer bottom bezel. I've had artwork professionally framed a couple of times, one is hanging in my room, and everything is centered. I could be wrong though. I don't know much about framing aesthetics.
That being said, I'd rather have a higher resolution 7" screen with greater pixel density than a lower res, less ppi 7.7" screen.
I don't think the design of the Nexus 7 is perfect by any means, but this is an affordable tablet. Compared to the Nook Tablet and the Fire, this thing looks pretty decent. Sure it's no Galaxy Tab or iPad, but it's not really at those price points.

>I haven't seen a whole lot of framing with a longer bottom bezel.
Both Nook Tablet and Kindle Fire have the same asymmetric "bottom heavy" bezel design. Much more pronounced on the Nook.
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mojo22 said:
It should of been 7.7" !!!
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Yes, but that doesn't exactly fit with their cost-cutting approach.
mojo22 said:
I'm beggining to get my hopes up that Asus will soon release a 'better' version like samsung does after producing the nexus phones.
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Unlikely that Asus would bring out a tablet competing with itself anytime soon. Acer's Iconia A110 should be due in Q3 though. (but it's not 7.7 either as far as I know).

Eclair~ said:
Martias Duarte, the current Director of User Experience at Android, said the large bezels were a conscious choice, for both aesthetic and usability reasons.
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I was thinking about this today, so I went and had another look and feel at the 7.7 As mentioned somewhere in this thread, it makes it more 'pocketable' and is still OK to hold and grip, turn into landscape mode etc.
It however is not going to be the deciding factor of my purchase. The price of the 7.7 here is over £450 ... that is mad money, the new iPad cost less and the Nexus will cost less than half that!
Brac20 said:
I am starting right at the foundations on CodeAcademy (which uses Javascript). Just finishing the tutorial section on functions.
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Cool, good luck with that. Can you post a link to the tutorials please.
julien.me said:
it hurts my eyes ...
http://www.engvid.com/grammar-past-tense-should/
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hahahah thanked ! :laugh:
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>I haven't seen a whole lot of framing with a longer bottom bezel.
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I wish there was a picture comparison to a 7.7 samsung
thebobp said:
Yes, but that doesn't exactly fit with their cost-cutting approach.
Unlikely that Asus would bring out a tablet competing with itself anytime soon. Acer's Iconia A110 should be due in Q3 though. (but it's not 7.7 either as far as I know).
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Thanks for the informative post! The 7.7 would of raise the price significantly I imagine, you're right

Logitech Tablet Keyboard for Android Review

Hello everyone. This is a quick writeup/review on the LG Keyboard. I'm typing this up from the keyboard, in fact!
Pros:
1) First off, let me say that the build quality is excellent! The keyboard looks and feels like its made from some expensive and premium plastic. It has sort of a metallic look to it.
2) They keyboard is small however the keys are big and spacious enough.You can carry this easily in a bag, since it has a flat profile and a keyboard case to go with it. The keyboard case also doubles as a stand for your tablet fr those of you going commando and not wanting to put a case on it.
3) As for typing: The keys are chiclet raised style keys. They are spaced apart and big enough to type on comfortably.
4) There is absolutely no lag whatsoever between typing the character and it appearing on the screen. Sometimes, however, there are missed keys, as in you'll have to hit a letter twice before it appears. This occurs very rarely and also depends on how much of a "wirelessly" busy area you are in.
5) When using this keyboard, it behaves exactly like a desktop keyboard. As in, when you're type on a form with multiple fields, and you press tab or shift+tab, you move from one field to the next. Hitting spacebar on a radio button or a check mark box allows you to check that area off. Alt+Tabbing is also programmed in.You can hit Ctrl+T to open a new tab. There are plenty more, but these are the few that I've noticed that I thought I should mention.
I don't know if thats the result of programming on the keyboard or the OS that does this, but its still awesome either way.
6) Full volume control as well as the ability to pause, play, skip and go back on playlists.
Cons
1) The keyboard has a number of Fn function keys, each of which calls up a specific app. There is one for email, web browser, calendar, and music. As for email, I'm using the AOSP email app, and when pressing that button, nothing happens. This might be different with other people who are using other types of email apps.
2) The web browser isn't called either
Others: This might be good or bad depending on the person
1) As for calendar, only the stock calendar is launched
2) I've set my default music playing app to Player Pro, however when pressing this, it only brings up the music app installed from google. However, to be fair, I must say that after you have a playlist going, regardless of which music player your using, you can still control the playlist (pause, play, skip, go to previous song, etc)
3) I've been typing on this with wireless on and music playing. In the past 30 minutes, battery has gone down by about 7%.
Conclusion:
I should mention that this keyboard was sold for Android 3.0+, however it was intended for 3.0. As such, it isn't 100% compatible with 4.1.1 (I'd say its 95% ). Hopefully someone can figure out a way on mapping the some of the keys that weren't working. Regardless, the doesn't stop this from being a good keyboard and an excellent buy if you're someone who needs a physical keyboard and types a lot.
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WARNING: I was using a heavy DSLR camera one handed while recording this video...so as a result, there's more shaking and moving of the camera than I would have hoped so you may get a headache or some motion sickness .
Regardless, the video is still good enough to showcase the virtues of this keyboard!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-plXnQA-KlE&feature=youtu.be
Further comments:
Please let me know if you have any questions or anything specific. I did my best in making this review and presenting pictures, so if you think there's something still missing, just post here.

Nice writeup. Been lookin for a reason to get this. My HP touchpad Bluetooth keyboard just doesn't cut it working on android.
A little shocking about your battery drop like that in only 30 minutes.. any improvement or change with this, now that you are using it more?
Been eyeing up the refurbished ones on eBay for $33.00.
Can you post more pics with the cover on it? Next to the 7 ?
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Xparent SkyBlue Tapatalk 2

Really interested in this keyboard, if only the price weren't so high. Does the stand work while you have your case on?
Sent from my paranoid Nexus 7.

theomni said:
I should mention that this keyboard was sold for Android 3.0+, however it was intended for 3.0. As such, it isn't 100% compatible with 4.1.1 (I'd say its 95% ). Hopefully someone can figure out a way on mapping the some of the keys that weren't working. Regardless, the doesn't stop this from being a good keyboard and an excellent buy if you're someone who needs a physical keyboard and types a lot.
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Perhaps you should take a look at this? http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=159538

Ah, thank you!
But in order for that method to work, you need to be rooted and install a few APKs. I was hoping to do this without cluttering my apps drawer.
Edit: New pictures have been added to the original post. As of right now, I'm uploading a video onto youtube on the keyboard and typing. However, I MUST warn you all: I tried looking back at my camera work and I realized there's quite a bit of movement. I kinda got motion sick and have a headache (lol) so this is a fair warning to you. Just skip around throughout the video.

Video and more pictures added!

i have the chance to get the ipad variant of this quite cheaply (can't find the android version in the uk anyway)
does anyone know if the ipad version would work with android?

ajpettit said:
i have the chance to get the ipad variant of this quite cheaply (can't find the android version in the uk anyway)
does anyone know if the ipad version would work with android?
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It works, my wife has one. I had some weirdness the first time I connected it, the shift key kept "sticking" but after that it was okay. Control, Alt works.. Some of the media stuff works, including launching some stock apps.. Overall it was okay once it started working right, not sure if it'll happen randomly or just that "first time".
Android will have more Android-specific functions, like Home, Back, Recents, etc... but you can mostly get by on the keyboard, especially if you don't mind poking the screen now and then.

nickles96 said:
Nice writeup. Been lookin for a reason to get this. My HP touchpad Bluetooth keyboard just doesn't cut it working on android.
A little shocking about your battery drop like that in only 30 minutes.. any improvement or change with this, now that you are using it more?
Been eyeing up the refurbished ones on eBay for $33.00.
Can you post more pics with the cover on it? Next to the 7 ?
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I've been eyeing the same thing, except on amazon. lol
OP: Can you open a note taking app and take a picture of the setup from normal typing distance?
I want to get this keyboard so I can take some notes in class, but my main concern was that I wouldn't be able to see the text or I would have to magnify so much that barely any text fits on the screen at a time.
(Yea, Transformer is better for this, but this is only one of many things I want to do. And I feel the N7 is better for.. everything else. lol)

Nippero said:
I've been eyeing the same thing, except on amazon. lol
OP: Can you open a note taking app and take a picture of the setup from normal typing distance?
I want to get this keyboard so I can take some notes in class, but my main concern was that I wouldn't be able to see the text or I would have to magnify so much that barely any text fits on the screen at a time.
(Yea, Transformer is better for this, but this is only one of many things I want to do. And I feel the N7 is better for.. everything else. lol)
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Sure. I'll do it tomorrow night.
However, I can tell you that if you use this like a laptop, you can easily read and see the text.

Nippero said:
I've been eyeing the same thing, except on amazon. lol
OP: Can you open a note taking app and take a picture of the setup from normal typing distance?
I want to get this keyboard so I can take some notes in class, but my main concern was that I wouldn't be able to see the text or I would have to magnify so much that barely any text fits on the screen at a time.
(Yea, Transformer is better for this, but this is only one of many things I want to do. And I feel the N7 is better for.. everything else. lol)
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Sorry, I just realized what you were saying.
As far as normal typing distance is concerned, why don't you put your tablet at various distances and see if you can read it. I'd imagine this would be a personal thing that is different from person to person.

I just got mine in the mail. Perfect plug and play functionality! The browser shortcut button DOES work with the AOSP browser! For some reason the email shortcut isnt linking to either my gmail or to my email cliemt - may try to manually map this later. Otherwise the keyboard is perfectly responsive, portable size while maintaining the full sized keyboard feel. I love it Highly recomend it to anyone looking for a portable bluetooth keyboard for their N7!

Hi there. I'm new here and this is my first post.
This keyboard is surprisingly good. I originally wanted a keyboard folio but they are too small. I gave the Logitech one a chance and I'm very happy with the responsiveness and the overall feel. I touch type so I need the keys to feel a certain way to type properly and this keyboard works very well.
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Found it on Amazon for $40! Might take a chance at it as the cheapest I've seen it was $50.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...=B0054L8N7M&linkCode=as2&tag=wwwgadgetgblo-20

Bump.
Sent from my really cool phone w/ a screen

I have the same keyboard I absolutely love it! Give it a 9/10 for pretty much the exact reasons in the OP. I got mine on ebay as a factory refurbished for $30 shipped and it works perfectly! Battery last a long time too on a few AAAs I would definitely recommend this to anyone who likes to have a physical keyboard!
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2

Found this on clearance at Target for 42$ Love it.
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Logitech Tablet Keyboards review for android and for Ipad tested with PC
Hi guys,
I bought both the ipad version and android version of the keyboard and did some comparison using IPAD3, NEXUS 7, and Windows 7 PC.
Please have a look at it and let me know if you have any questions
I cant seem to post video because I am new so please copy and paste
"/watch?v=7F_VhaE3xrQ&list=UUvhoR5J6mXRNCLDfEmYsDjA&index=1&feature=plcp" after typing in youtube.com
or
search for "logitech tablet keyboard for android and ipad function" and look for TH0RFan
Its a bit long-winded but I did specify on comment which device is tested so you can fast foward to particular sections.
I wish I had better video capturing equipment but for the time being my SD1300 will have to do.
Cheers,

This keyboard gave me trouble to the point I gave up on it and sold it. It would timeout quickly, fail to pair about 30% of the time, and ddđooooooooooo tttttthhhhiiiiiiiiiiiiiissss nnoooowww annnnnnnnddddd tthheennnnnnnnnnn.
Several calls to Logitech later and I decided to just get rid of it.

My brother got this for his Tab 10.1 and I tried it out on my Nexus. It works great. Perfect sized keys, feels good when typing. I even played GTA III with it. He told me battery life is awesome on it. He has to recharge once every 3 months.

Getting bored with android...talk me out of buying a surface

Been looking at surface rt for fun. They are peaking my curiosity. Kinda bored with android, I had my nexus 7 for 7 months now and its great. Why would I not want to buy a surface rt? They sure are dropping in price fast on craigslist, even the dell xps 10 is now 249-299 brand new with free keyboard covers....... Am I crazy to want a rt?

Should not need to be talked out of anything. If you have the relevent info for both, than get what makes you happy. It is you that has to deal with it, not anyone else.
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Then get a Surface. You don't need our permission.

If you are bored with Android, then you are not going to be happy with Windows.
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DroidRunner said:
If you are bored with Android, then you are not going to be happy with Windows.
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As far as I'm concerned, "Friends don't let friends buy Windows tablets". At least not now.
I had an RT tablet provided by my office for about a month. They bought one for everyone here because of the integrated Office and the keyboard cover, and they figured it would make everyone's lives easier.
It didn't turn out that way.
I'm not going to crap all over Windows 8/RT, because there are a lot of really good things about it and the build quality of the tablet is mostly nice.
But the three biggest problems:
1. The build quality of the soft cover is poor. In less than a month several of us had the soft cover split along the seams. It typed well, but you still had to be careful, because if you didn't hit the key properly sometimes it wouldn't take. On the whole a lot more work than a real keyboard.
2. Office is there, but it's a lot more awkward to use than I thought it would be. Sure, there shortcuts, but the need to pick your finger up to touch the screen all them time really slows you down. Something I'd eventually get used to, I'm sure, but it wasn't easy.
3. There really AREN'T any apps for Windows RT. Sure there are some, and there are apps that are supposed to do many other things, they just aren't the options I would have picked if there was choice. But the things I love tablets for are the apps and they just aren't there.
I also was really disappointed with how much real memory was left after the OS was taken into account. I would have had to manage my media constantly to make it work for me. Again, possible, but not worth it.
After a month our IT group took them back from everyone and said they were looking for another solution.
So, if you're bored with Android, you maybe should try a Windows Tablet, they aren't boring and they will keep you busy, just maybe not for the right reasons.

^thanks man. Solid points. I think I will wait for the new nexus 7. Glad you have a good response unlike the other posters here. I was concerned about the availability of apps for rt. And I'm thinking developers won't hop on board since it seems to be a hard sell and small user base.

Friend has an RT, I have a nexus 7.
Biggest thing is just the feel. I can pull out my nexus 7 and I have my app drawer full of games, customisable homescreen, many apps and things to play with. It's a fun tablet.
When I play with my friend's RT though, after exploring the start menu and desktop, there isn't really much. Games are lacking (except for the big names like jetpack joyride and other popular games), and there's nothing "fun" to do. The desktop is kind of empty, as it can't run windows apps, so pretty much the only thing that populates the desktop is the internet explorer and my computer icon, and assorted computer folders.
However, the RT does win the nexus 7 in many points. Productivity wise, it's brilliant. Microsoft office works really well, and split screen multitasking is cool. If you get the type cover, it becomes a mini laptop that can run all your office apps. The nexus 7 can never catch up unless a better office app shows up on the market.
So now it depends on whether you prefer fun, or productivity.

Sell it and get the Surface then.

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I just got my N7 last week. Still have no case since there's many choices regarding online but less in stores.
There's a slimline moku and another case I'm torn between.
I also got a Bluetooth Logitech keyboard for typing but not really loving it just yet.
Any who anyone find a keyboard / case solution they are happy with?
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Been looking at surface rt for fun. They are peaking my curiosity. Kinda bored with android, I had my nexus 7 for 7 months now and its great. Why would I not want to buy a surface rt? They sure are dropping in price fast on craigslist, even the dell xps 10 is now 249-299 brand new with free keyboard covers....... Am I crazy to want a rt?
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Are you kidding? I've had the opportunity to try a Surface RT, and was happy to give it back to the lender... if you're looking for a windows experience, forget it. It doesn't run any standard Windows programs... the apps it does have are a limited number. The interface is confusing and counterintuitive, and for God's sake, the price is well above what something of its caliberr should run.

I have two cases... and I like both for different reasons.
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I just got my N7 last week. Still have no case since there's many choices regarding online but less in stores.
There's a slimline moku and another case I'm torn between.
I also got a Bluetooth Logitech keyboard for typing but not really loving it just yet.
Any who anyone find a keyboard / case solution they are happy with?
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My main case is a leather portfolio style, with the magnets on the cover for auto on and off. It's the standard go to and there are lots around like it. http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=4882380
But my secondary case, which I use for working and productivity was a real find. I bought it off of a recommendation from talkandroid
http://www.talkandroid.com/147462-n...ooks-great-lasts-long-and-costs-little-video/
it was cheap, so I bought it and it works way better than I ever expected in a situation where I need a keyboard. When it's closed it looks great too. You can't really tell from the pictures but the keyboard fits on top of the Nexus 7 to create a kind of hard clamshell for the top of the unit. It's made in a silver plastic with dots that matches perfectly with the tablet.
Unfortunately I have to choose between the cases, I can't use both at once.

PMOttawa said:
My main case is a leather portfolio style, with the magnets on the cover for auto on and off. It's the standard go to and there are lots around like it. http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=4882380
But my secondary case, which I use for working and productivity was a real find. I bought it off of a recommendation from talkandroid
http://www.talkandroid.com/147462-n...ooks-great-lasts-long-and-costs-little-video/
it was cheap, so I bought it and it works way better than I ever expected in a situation where I need a keyboard. When it's closed it looks great too. You can't really tell from the pictures but the keyboard fits on top of the Nexus 7 to create a kind of hard clamshell for the top of the unit. It's made in a silver plastic with dots that matches perfectly with the tablet.
Unfortunately I have to choose between the cases, I can't use both at once.
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I also have on of those keyboard covers. They are such great value for money. And the rechargeable battery for keyboard lasts me literally months off a single charge!
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I would get a Surface Pro... if it wasn't so expensive.

If you're bored with android....with all you can do to them.....good luck with anything else.
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Go get a surface. Someone had to buy one eventually..
Don't expect much thou... There are no apps, it's a battery hog, chock full of manufacturing problems, it won't run windows apps (despite the branding).

surface sucks.
done:victory:

I've heard bad things about surface too, like build quality and that the touch screen isn't so good. About apps, you can pay a visit to windows market place yourself to see.
I'd suggest another option, one of those hybrid tablet/laptops running x86 windows 8.
At the very least, you can run bluestacks or virtual android on it, and have a fully functional PC which transforms into android if you need it.
Of course it's a bit more expensive, but it's not like they are giving surfaces away for free.
I've been getting bored with android too, but that's the phone, I'm keeping my N7 forever
I might get a Lumia instead of my Xperia though.

I really want(ed) a Windows 8 tablet, too.
My problem is that there doesn't seem to be many good x86 ones. There's some meh-priced RT tablets but Windows RT is immensely more limited.
I've completely held off from getting a Windows x86 tablet because every damned one I try out in Future Shop and Best Buy with the Atom are slow, sluggish, freeze often and just seem laggy as hell.
I'm avoiding them all for now, and eyeballing Acer's upcoming 8 inch x86 Windows tablet which may be cheaper and has a small form factor like my N7.

I'm personally waiting a year or two for them to smooth things out. The hardware is too overpriced for what you get and having legacy x86 applications isn't that great when they're not meant for touch. Windows RT is also a joke unless they let devs compile for the desktop. They're totally cool though but not good enough for me.
Hopefully Android x86 will also mature by then so I don't have to give up the ecosystem.

Need help for a 3D printed LG G2 stand

Ok so I am not a great designer by any means, but I do have a 3D printer and I am willing to donate as much plastic as needed to get something nice going. So here is the deal... I ordered two G2s and now I need stands for them and I figured I would put it to use. I've made simple universal ones to start like the ones below. Please excuse the crappy quality, the camera on my previous phone was horrible. Will be nice to go from 5MP to 13MP
I know a lot of them suck, most of these were within the first week or two of having the printer. I have since learned you NEED a heated bed to do any decent printing with ABS and have upgraded. Anyways, these were just universal ones I could give away when I was done with them. I can also vapor bath them and smooth them out real nice. If you got a drawing lmk, I want to see what we can get going. I'll update soon after I have a bit to play with it.

What program do you use to print them out? Back when I was in school I used solidworks to make some cool stuff with a 3D printer, I wouldn't mind trying to make something and sending you the file to try out.
Just let me know what program I need to use
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What program do you use to print them out? Back when I was in school I used solidworks to make some cool stuff with a 3D printer, I wouldn't mind trying to make something and sending you the file to try out.
Just let me know what program I need to use
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I was using sketchup for some and tinkercad for the others. I have autocad I just havent had the time to learn it with my new job. Pretty much any program that can output an STL file should be fine. I can do the rest from there. I'll slice it and add support if needed.
Edit: I forgot to say my boss is supposed to get a very expensive 3D printer this xmas too. He was thinking of getting of those Zcorp ones or the UV ones. We need a big platform, like 18x12" or so. I'll most likely have access to it when he gets it. At the very least he will get a makerbot or something close. I'll make good use of it

dispozable said:
I was using sketchup for some and tinkercad for the others. I have autocad I just havent had the time to learn it with my new job. Pretty much any program that can output an STL file should be fine. I can do the rest from there. I'll slice it and add support if needed.
Edit: I forgot to say my boss is supposed to get a very expensive 3D printer this xmas too. He was thinking of getting of those Zcorp ones or the UV ones. We need a big platform, like 18x12" or so. I'll most likely have access to it when he gets it. At the very least he will get a makerbot or something close. I'll make good use of it
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Awesome, I'm good with sketchup as well! Do you just want a basic stand or do you want me to try to make one that holds it and has slots for aux and charger ports??
Also, I'll make it thick enough to at least support a slim case.
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Awesome, I'm good with sketchup as well! Do you just want a basic stand or do you want me to try to make one that holds it and has slots for aux and charger ports??
Also, I'll make it thick enough to at least support a slim case.
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I need to get a tripod mount going first. I use my phone for work a lot and my old tripod mount barely fit my 4" phone lol After that I want to make something like this: Stump Portable stand on Amazon for us. You my friend can add what you wish to the stand, I'll be working with you on details. I'll give you some details on the printer so you can adjust for the extrusion.
Solidoodle 2
.1mm resolution
1.75mm ABS (will most likely use PLA for the bigger ones)
.35mm nozzle (actual extrusion after cooldown is approximately .41-.42mm)
150x150x150mm build volume (two parts can be designed to fit together, no biggie here)
Colors: ABS- Glow in the Dark PLA- Silver
Once we get some good ones going I'll clean them up real nice and vapor bath them and make sure to send you some I already need to make a easy video on how to vapor bath parts for $25 bucks, might as well post it here too.

Hmm, that stand looks like it would just tip right over. I read the description and its made out of rubber. Also, you will need to get all 3 angles down just right for it to work so it's gonna be tricky lol
Edit: Here's my first go at it (I just made a basic one, not the stump one)
And by no means am i a designer lol
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Hmm, that stand looks like it would just tip right over. I read the description and its made out of rubber. Also, you will need to get all 3 angles down just right for it to work so it's gonna be tricky lol
Edit: Here's my first go at it (I just made a basic one, not the stump one)
And by no means am i a designer lol
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Upload it to devhost, I'll start it up now and see what I can do. Also, do you use hangouts or skype? I could also dropbox pictures if possible.

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Upload it to devhost, I'll start it up now and see what I can do. Also, do you use hangouts or skype? I could also dropbox pictures if possible.
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Here's another one i just made
Im gonna throw the sketchup file in dropbox, it has like 4 test models in it. Feel free to mess with them
Also i use hangout, I'll PM you my gmail and the download link

I just wanted to let you guys know this is already being printed I was supposed to get my device on Tuesday, but it seems I am on the back order list now and wont receive it until Wednesday-Thursday. Either way, I have already ordered a thick case for my gf here: Case/Stand on Amazon and I want to make one for her too, so hopefully we can get a few of these going. When I confirm they fit I'll put them up on Thingiverse for everyone!

Ok so update guys!! So after about an hour I started noticing some warping in the ABS plastic (which I have the worst problem with) and I ended up switching from the glow in the dark ABS to the silver PLA. The PLA did much better as far as warping but I get a crappier product
In the next post I'll show the model after I clean it up a bit...

Ok so here are some more pictures after I cleaned it up with a dremel. Usually I just hit it with some sandpaper and throw it in the steamer but PLA isn't bothered by acetone like ABS is. I'll try and find a PLA solvent soon and see what I can do with it. I really like printing in ABS but it warps constantly for me even with a heated bed and a almost perfectly leveled bed. Tonight I will try a different one, most likely the round one

Can it be plugged in while in your stand
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Will it take the plug while in this
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Phone is in and it fits GREAT. Now to start tweaking! Thanks to Who Mike D for the design! We will have more up soon, PM either of us for this file. This version doesn't hold the charge cord.... yet. That is next on the list. I will start on that now. I want to make it so you can use the stock cord and just slide it in and glue it in, or possibly just hot glue and some extra space, I'm not sure yet. The simpler the better IMO.

Be cool to have one that can incorporate something like the LG Qi Charger.
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Be cool to have one that can incorporate something like the LG Qi Charger.
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Get me the most accurate measurements you can for it, the more accurate the better. It is hard for me to really see it in the pics the angle at which the phone sits. It shouldn't be do hard to set a placeholder for one.

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Get me the most accurate measurements you can for it, the more accurate the better. It is hard for me to really see it in the pics the angle at which the phone sits. It shouldn't be do hard to set a placeholder for one.
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Im gonna design one for my Nokia wireless charger as well

I will get some measurements for the LG Qi Charger tomorrow.
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I will get some measurements for the LG Qi Charger tomorrow.
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After looking at the LG charger i just purchased one since its much smaller and i will be able to make a smaller stand with it lol
Edit: Here's what i have so far (still need to add the support legs)

I like! Use my legs off the one I just sent you on it.
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Regarding your 3D modelling
Hi, Where are you based? We can have chat over Skype for this! I am trying real hard to setup my own firm make 3D printed stuff, I can provide you numerous designs and you can give me 3D print!