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[Q] Tab won't turn on-possible water damage. Any hope?!

Hi everyone,
My little sister accidentally dropped my 2-week old Galaxy Tab. I bought the Tab from someone on craigslist so I don't have a receipt or anything which I guess means I won't even be able to try getting it replaced or fixed by Samsung.
I searched the web and didn't find any info from anyone with similar problem so I don't even know if there is anything I can try or where to start.
The Tab itself appears fine physically, the screen did not even crack, but I cannot get it to power on.
Any advice, guidance, tips, tricks?! Anything at all will be greatly appreciated.
Keeping my fingers crossed...thanks for your time.

I think your only hope is to open the tab, to see if something get loose (battery etc...)
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ok so I just pried the tablet open to check if battery was loose as you suggested and found something very interesting - nothing appeared loose but i noticed some small drops of water so i think the kid might have actually spilled something on my tablet (instead of or aside from dropping it)!
Now what?! Any advice on possible water damage? Is this irreparable?

if you're sure its water dmg, you could try putting the tab in a bag of rice for a couple days to dry it out, then try again to turn it on.
Other than that i guess you could look on ebay for a replacement part what you expect was water damaged...

Unfortunately for you a tab can be under water or under warranty but not both, and dropped tab=dropped warranty. The good news there is that you could still probably contact samsung to get a quote for fixing it. Its not a warranty repair so you'd be paying them either way.
edit: and if you've already pried it open and can remove the battery while drying it out - i'd do that. If it shorted it could start bulging or something and cause more damage. I second the let it dry in rice or even air dry for a while. Then if there is no sign of battery damage, charge it for a bit (keeping an eye on it for shorts) and see if you get the charging screen or if it powers on.

I have dropped many phone in water over the years. In fact i dropped my tab in my pets water dish.
If you havent damaged it beyind repair by opening it, my fix is to get a big ziplock bag, fill it with rice, bury the tab in the rice for a day. Leave in cabnet. Rice will suck all the moisture out.
Oh and by the way since you have it open, can you check what kind if internalbsd card it has? Does it look replaceable?
Hit the thanks button if I.have helped.
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ok I took it apart carefully following a tutorial vid on youtube. I cleaned what i'm assuming is liquid damage residue (white powdery substance?) with electronics cleaner and a qtip. Then buried it a container of rice and put it in a cabinet just as you guys suggested. Do you think 24 hours is enough time to let it sit before trying it?
I'm not sure how long the water was in there because there were only a few drops that hadn't dried and then the white powdery stuff which I assume is from the liquid. All info I came across gave procedures for treating electronics immediately after contact with liquid so not sure if this will work since it seems to have been sitting in there for a bit. I'm crossing my fingers and will post back.
sserpentine: what is an internalbsd? let me know what to look for and I'll take pics and post here for you

Lol, replacing the internal sd would be amazing! I can only imagine the possibilities.
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My niece put my tablet in the water what should I do

I9001 Dead battery on mainboard?

Hello everybody,
I think I have a serious problem with my SGS+. On the mainboard is something that looks like a small battery. It is located between the camera and the loudspeaker (see attached photo). The (assumingly) battery is covered with acid. Two days ago some water poured into my phone through the headphone jack, i recognized it the next day. Since then the power button started to react badly, until it died completely today. I cant even turn my phone on (i have no access to a computer). Might that problem has something to do with the thing on the mainboard? And if it is a battery, can i replace it (the type would be useful)?
Any advice would be helpful.
Thank you for reading my question!
jazzjoe

I am no expert on this, but my uneducated guess is that it is fluid related to a blown capacitor rather than a battery, at least i would draw that conclusion firmly if we were talking about a pc motherboard.
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Thank you for your response. Well if it is a blown capacitor, what could be the consequence? By the way. When i woke up this morning the power button magically respondend, so right now i'm writing from the device. The button reacted a few more times (tried it with locking the device not shutting it down), then it stopped reacting again, that was 5hrs ago. Everything else works fine by now. Can i replace the power button unit? And if it is possible how?
Anyway thank you for your interest, i hope some ideas still to come.
Greetings
Jazzjoe
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jazzjoe said:
i hope some ideas still to come.
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clean first, wrap in tissue paper and place it in dismantle form in a bag a rice for a day or two ...than try it

If it IS a blown capacitor, you could experience anything from failing to power up to cpu overheating. The liquid from capacitors is electrolyte and usually brownish in color.
I don't think it is possible to replace it by soldering a new one on like one could do with a pc motherboard.
Again, I might be far gone here, I would assume that the capacitors in a phone would be smaller than that and I haven't done any research on it.
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adytum said:
Again, I might be far gone here,
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Its a Battery-LI(2ND) Bat 501 Part NO: 4302-001180....But its best to solve water damage FIRST .
Download a i9000 technician manual to get details from My Android Collections it would be similar for i9001

Thank you very much, all of you have been a great help! So you believe the power button issue is caused by the water? Then i'll do the rice and tissue treatment and will later stick to the battery. Thanks again, i'll report the results.
A very optimistic jazzjoe
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Hello again,
after 24+ hours in rice i reassambled the phone. It took me 2 hours to start it. There must be some problem with the on off switch. I met a guy who has some experience with pcs and he said it might be a cold solder joint. What do you think? Might there be another explanation. Like i said, once the phone started it runs smooth. The battery by the way should be something like the cmos at a computer, so it wouldn't bother me if it is dead. Any ideas?
jazzjoe
Ps: is there any way to turn the phone on without a pc?
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There should be a couple of connectors that you could short with a piece of metal if only the power button itself is broken. But I have no idea where they are or if they're accessible at all.
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Sounds a little bit dangerous to me. Any other ideas?
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jazzjoe said:
after 24+ hours in rice i reassambled the phone. It took me 2 hours to start it. There must be some problem with the on off switch. I met a guy who has some experience with pcs and he said it might be a cold solder joint. What do you think? Might there be another explanation. Like i said, once the phone started it runs smooth. The battery by the way should be something like the cmos at a computer, so it wouldn't bother me if it is dead. Any ideas?
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Frankly, it would take a lot more time to fully dry out a water damaged phone with Rice, as moisture stuck in between chips and contacts are to minute and in accessible to be fully removed. ( an XD posted a few days back, that he left his unrecoverable water damaged phone , and after 8 months it was working fine by itself) so .... it may need more time and I think compressed air is one way to get water out of headphone slots
The power switch is prone to damage as it is sandwiched in between the front and back covers of the phone , IF you did not notice it is can be bent or spliced by the forcing the back cover when you assemble it, since it is only a flex (film)
IF your problem came to be because of water damage than the problem is not due to switch but due to water causing the switch to fail, and its odd your battery is leaking, as this never happens in normal circumstances ...these batteries can last at least 5 to 10 years ...so you need to do some goggling to find out why a battery will leak

I have the same problem.
The phone is not mine, it's my brother's one.
I've opened it and the button battery is oxidized.
I have to ask my brother if he has water "problems".
Anyhow the phone doesn't charge anymore so it won't turn on. I have to find a way to charge battery and try to switch it on.
It will be a pity to trash it ;D

****,my wife's i9001 falled down into the water this morning

Issues after water damage

Hello everybody,
my phone has been dropped into a pool for a couple of minutes, but first it seemed to be all right.
The first problem was, that the phone gone crazy, and every time i've wanted to lock it, it started the camera app. Then a couple of hours later the phone went into safe mode, and the vol down and the power buttons doesn't worked. After that i've dissasembled the phone and wiped the things around with some tissue thingy that was soaked in alcohol. It was some medical thing. Then i've put it back together, and it switched on, but the battery doesn't charge, or not every time, but at least the phone is not in safe mode anymore and the buttons are all working properly, the only thing what isn't working is the wifi. At the moment i'm only struggleing with battery, because most of the time it's not charging it only shows a battery with a question mark in the middle, but the green led is on and the phone is doing this vibration when you turn it on, but it's not booting, the screen stays black. I can reach the fastboot mode and the recovery but not the system. Can anyone help me what might be the problem? Software or hardware?
I hope that i was quite clear.
Cheers

It can really be both SW and HW. Basically it´s HW.
Once you do proper cleaning process too late and not very well, or you don´t do your celaning properly, you are going to have you device dead earlier or later. You have to disassemble the PCB to its primes, take of the shieldings of circuity, and clean it with some alcohol and tootbrush or better ESD protective brush gently but deeply. Then, you need to dry it for 48 hours in 50-60 degrees and then see what happened after assy. Also SW can be damaged, so you can try to flash it (load new ROM). If there is no success, it´s simply dead.

Your phone has oxidized due the water.
Go to Motorola and ask if they'll change your phone. You maybe lucky and get a brand new one.

sky0165 said:
Your phone has oxidized due the water.
Go to Motorola and ask if they'll change your phone. You maybe lucky and get a brand new one.
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They only advertise the phone as water resistant I doubt they'll replace it if it was dropped in a pool
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Chri$b0b2005 said:
They only advertise the phone as water resistant I doubt they'll replace it if it was dropped in a pool
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This phone is NOT water resistant, only the screen is...
By the way, if any oxidization is found on your phone, warranty won't work.

Do we have some official statement? I saw in few reviews, that they mean (also) internals - whole PCB coating....

Sorry for the late answer...
If a phone is fully waterproof, then it is a strong marketing argument.
Look on the Motorola website, nothing talks about this. On the contrary, the Sony Xperia Z explicitly shows this ability, just look at its advertisement.
The Razr i is only splash proof: you can drop a small amount of liquid on the screen, it won't hurt the phone.
That's the only thing that is true.
Reporting the contrary is dangerous for users, beware of this when you read a review.

[Q] white screen damage xperia z

hey, 2 days ago i used my xperia z to took video underwater,,,, after about 5-8 mins underwater...color in my screen fade to white....so i did hard restart.....screen back to normal after 1-2min back fade to white......but every i turn off and turn on again (or restart) it'll be normal but after 1-2min it'll change to fade again, but the touchscreen still works, everything is ok but the problem is the screen back to white again and again.......how to slove this problem? please help me.....

aldidetu said:
hey, 2 days ago i used my xperia z to took video underwater,,,, after about 5-8 mins underwater...color in my screen fade to white....so i did hard restart.....screen back to normal after 1-2min back fade to white......but every i turn off and turn on again (or restart) it'll be normal but after 1-2min it'll change to fade again, but the touchscreen still works, everything is ok but the problem is the screen back to white again and again.......how to slove this problem? please help me.....
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nothing to do by yourself
if u r sure all ports were closed underwater just take it to official service for replacement.
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Hey OP, I had the same problem after water damage. Just keep using your phone like normal, it'll start turning white/negative less often, and after 3 weeks or so, your phone will be back to normal!

x102x96x said:
nothing to do by yourself
if u r sure all ports were closed underwater just take it to official service for replacement.
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abhinav1023 said:
Hey OP, I had the same problem after water damage. Just keep using your phone like normal, it'll start turning white/negative less often, and after 3 weeks or so, your phone will be back to normal!
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can i charge my phone, i think there is water in my lcd...
thank you for your attention....
i thought i should let put my xperia z to the sony service center....but i think twice to put it in ssc, cause in my country their service is very bad....the customer very difficult to use their guaranty....once again thank you for all your attention

Water damage isn't covered in the warranty, and it's expensive to repair. When my phone got water damaged (happened less than 48 hours after I got it), I put it in a bag of rice with the 2 smaller flaps open for a few days. That didn't help at all, so I decided to leave it in my cupboard with all the flaps open for a day or two. Surprisingly, this took care of all the visible condensation. I charged my phone after this, and there seemed to be no problem. I continued to use the phone like nothing happened, and I kept using it even while the screen was white.
I've had my Xperia Z for almost a month now, and the white screen issue is entirely gone. I also had other problems like condensation in the camera, a malfunctioning proximity sensor, and an external speaker that didn't work. These problems are gone too.
The only signs of damage left on my phone are condensation in the flash and a little silver blob below my screen (no clue what this is, but it doesn't seem to affect the phone).
I'd say leave your phone somewhere airy with ALL of the flaps open for a couple of days, and then try charging it. DO NOT USE A BLOW DRYER OR A VACUUM TO TRY TO REMOVE WATER, AS THIS WILL RESULT IN HEAT/STATIC DAMAGE.
By the way, how many of your water ingress indicators have gone red?

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Water damage isn't covered in the warranty, and it's expensive to repair. When my phone got water damaged (happened less than 48 hours after I got it), I put it in a bag of rice with the 2 smaller flaps open for a few days. That didn't help at all, so I decided to leave it in my cupboard with all the flaps open for a day or two. Surprisingly, this took care of all the visible condensation. I charged my phone after this, and there seemed to be no problem. I continued to use the phone like nothing happened, and I kept using it even while the screen was white.
I've had my Xperia Z for almost a month now, and the white screen issue is entirely gone. I also had other problems like condensation in the camera, a malfunctioning proximity sensor, and an external speaker that didn't work. These problems are gone too.
The only signs of damage left on my phone are condensation in the flash and a little silver blob below my screen (no clue what this is, but it doesn't seem to affect the phone).
I'd say leave your phone somewhere airy with ALL of the flaps open for a couple of days, and then try charging it. DO NOT USE A BLOW DRYER OR A VACUUM TO TRY TO REMOVE WATER, AS THIS WILL RESULT IN HEAT/STATIC DAMAGE.
By the way, how many of your water ingress indicators have gone red?
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thank you for your attention
there 1 indicator have gone red, at charge port, but i really sure i've closed it before i brought it in to the water...
so if there is technical error when installation the port, are the warranty still valid ?
i just put my xperia in my bedroom and left with the ports opened, i hope the water inside my lcd can evaporate. I've the same problem with you, there are some silver blob below in my screen too, look like water behind the lcd. almost a week i never charge my phone, i'm afraid there will be shorting inside. so can i charge my xperia now ?

I put my iPod touch on the dash of my car for a day. It dried it out. No sign of water damage. It was in my pocket of shorts and my wife washed it in the laundry.
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deathknellx said:
I put my iPod touch on the dash of my car for a day. It dried it out. No sign of water damage. It was in my pocket of shorts and my wife washed it in the laundry.
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Yeah, but your iPod isn't held together by a heat-sensitive adhesive. The Xperia Z is. So that's not exactly the best idea...
aldidetu said:
thank you for your attention
there 1 indicator have gone red, at charge port, but i really sure i've closed it before i brought it in to the water...
so if there is technical error when installation the port, are the warranty still valid ?
i just put my xperia in my bedroom and left with the ports opened, i hope the water inside my lcd can evaporate. I've the same problem with you, there are some silver blob below in my screen too, look like water behind the lcd. almost a week i never charge my phone, i'm afraid there will be shorting inside. so can i charge my xperia now ?
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Hey, don't mention it
Wow, that's funny. It's the same exact water indicator that's turned red on my phone.
The flaps on your phone could be faulty, and if they are, you are still under warranty. Next to your headphone flap, there is actually a Waterproof Test Hole, which Sony Service Centers use to test if your phone's waterproof capabilities are okay. The test hole can't be seen as there is a piece of plastic that covers it.
The thing is that it's more than likely that your phone will pass the waterproof test, and that your flaps came loose underwater when you were taking the video (pretty sure this is what happened to me as well).
Oh, and I can confirm that the silver blob is not water, but actually some sort of corrosion. It happened to my previous phone as well, and when I took it apart there was no water at in it at all.
Go ahead and charge it, you've got nothing to lose. Your warranty is void, and it's not like your phone will work without charge. Good luck!

abhinav1023 said:
Yeah, but your iPod isn't held together by a heat-sensitive adhesive. The Xperia Z is. So that's not exactly the best idea...
Hey, don't mention it
Wow, that's funny. It's the same exact water indicator that's turned red on my phone.
The flaps on your phone could be faulty, and if they are, you are still under warranty. Next to your headphone flap, there is actually a Waterproof Test Hole, which Sony Service Centers use to test if your phone's waterproof capabilities are okay. The test hole can't be seen as there is a piece of plastic that covers it.
The thing is that it's more than likely that your phone will pass the waterproof test, and that your flaps came loose underwater when you were taking the video (pretty sure this is what happened to me as well).
Oh, and I can confirm that the silver blob is not water, but actually some sort of corrosion. It happened to my previous phone as well, and when I took it apart there was no water at in it at all.
Go ahead and charge it, you've got nothing to lose. Your warranty is void, and it's not like your phone will work without charge. Good luck!
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i put my xperia z to sony service center yesterday, and They were looking for what ' s wrong with my xperia, and check is the warranty stil valid or not.....
but it'll surely need a long time, about 1 month++.....

[Q] LCD Alcohol damage

Hey guys, two days ago I was using my s4 Active on the bathtub to test the Aqua mode on the camera. After that when I tried to charge it it wouldn't charge. I've been using different batteries and an external charger to keep it running before going to my provider and check if the warranty will cover it.
Yesterday I read that alcohol may work to fix water damage, so I poured some 80% rubbing alcohol onto the usb port and basically the entire back of the phone. I let it dry in the sun for about 20 minutes and when I turned it on the screen was completely ****ed up, there are like blubs under it, as if the alcohol got under the screen, i can barely see it and now the touch capability won't work. Is there any way to fix this or is my phone lost?

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Hey guys, two days ago I was using my s4 Active on the bathtub to test the Aqua mode on the camera. After that when I tried to charge it it wouldn't charge. I've been using different batteries and an external charger to keep it running before going to my provider and check if the warranty will cover it.
Yesterday I read that alcohol may work to fix water damage, so I poured some 80% rubbing alcohol onto the usb port and basically the entire back of the phone. I let it dry in the sun for about 20 minutes and when I turned it on the screen was completely ****ed up, there are like blubs under it, as if the alcohol got under the screen, i can barely see it and now the touch capability won't work. Is there any way to fix this or is my phone lost?
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You did what? I....I just..........just send it in for warranty replacement, say it is water damaged, and leave it at that.

By chance, did you leave the battery in it when you did this? If so, take Devo's advice and pray for the best because that's your only hope. ANY liquid inside a phone with a battery in it will short things out. Even with the battery removed there are still capacitors inside that hold small amounts of electricity for a period that could be damaged by liquid. Not a very good idea.