Is there a stylus that can be used with an N7 for finer drawing than I can do with my finger?
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Unfortunately, this is the flaw of capacitive touch: it is less accurate, because you can't use a very thin object like a pen or something.
Samsung went close with its S-Pen on Galaxy Note, but it's another story... it doesn't work on our N7.
I've just read that the C-Pen from SGS3 works, but that's still pretty big.
I'm currently using a super cheapo stylus I found on campus, but, from my reading, the best experience seems to come from something like the Cosmonaut:
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That, coupled with the pinch-zoom in Sketchbook Pro, should allow for some natural sketching. If you're looking to do fine note-taking or something, it may not be what you're looking for, but my style of sketching lends itself to this solution.
Please post what you decide to use, I am interested in seeing other Nexus 7 artists' choices.
kmandel said:
Is there a stylus that can be used with an N7 for finer drawing than I can do with my finger?
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It depends on what you mean by "finer".
Capacitive touch screens have no pressure sensing, and the precision with which touches are detected is also low. These are separate issues.
Pressure Sensing or Lack Thereof.
Because of the lack of pressure sensing from the screen, there is no way for an app to use the touchscreen alone to modify the pen stroke width (or opacity) during a single stroke (although there are apps that apply changes after a single stroke has been completed, or rely on timing to make the beginning/middle/end of each stroke fatter/thinner/more opaque). Obviously that depends on the application - usually it corresponds to a specific pen effect selection. You can always use the app itself to manually select whatever pen width you want to draw with, in conjunction with zooming to the area of interest, as the previous respondent mentioned. Compared to drawing naturally though, it's a lot of zooming/unzooming and pen selection changes.
I think that the Samsung S-Pen uses either NFC or Bluetooth to communicate pen pressure; but until an Android app publisher integrates BT pens into their app, you are out of luck for pen pressure on the N7. Adonit sells a Bluetooth stylus for iOS; perhaps one day an Android app publisher will integrate with something like that. Note that this is rather an odd scenario though - buying a $100 stylus to use with a $200 tablet.
Positional Accuracy
A fat finger isn't very accurate, but it turns out the touch screen itself isn't very accurate either. If you only use a fat finger, you'll never notice the lack of screen touch resolution. But as soon as you do find a workable stylus with a thin tip, you will notice that you can't do things like normal handwriting at the scale you are used to (using a normal pen/pencil) with any legibility. That's part of the reason you see stylus devices with such fat bodies/tips; it's not necessarily about grip comfort: the smaller the tip is, the lower the capacitance it has, so the screen has a harder time detecting narrow tips. To write legibly in a small text, you have to zoom way in and then write in huge loopy strokes. I've tried a few note-taking apps, and I have come to the conclusion that I can take notes using pencil and paper about 10x faster than using a touchpad. You lose a lot of time constantly panning the screen around/zooming, and even if that were not the case, the fact that you need to make large strokes slows you down. The only advantage a tablet has in this scenario is mark-up of existing documents. (Since you asked about drawing, I'm not sure if this is important to you).
You'll find a lot of Apple fanbois singing the praise of the Adonit Jot stylii - Adonit attacked the problem of "too small a stylus tip" by putting a disc of metal inside a transparent disc that is on the end of a fine metallic tip. The disc can rotate freely on the end of a little "knob" at the end of the stylus. So you can see the end of your stylus with good precision, compared to using a big fat stylus. Kind of spendy though - $15 - $20; maybe that's what makes the Apple cult happy. Sometimes the little plastic disc seems to lose contact with the stylus and your strokes no longer register, or stutter intermittently - it happened with mine within 3 days of buying this stylus. (I've seen suggestions from folks that silver paste be used in the ball joint between the stylus and the disc; perhaps dry graphite lubricant might work too - it needs to be something which is electrically conductive). Also, some people find the clicking noise between the stylus disc and the screen annoying.
Anyhow, food for thought. If you want to save money, buy online (You can find 3 per dollar sets on Amazon). Remember that the only thing that a passive stylus needs to do is:
(a) be somewhat conductive from your hand contact all the way to the tip
(b) be comfortable to grip
(c) not scratch your screen.
Probably that could be satisfied with an item that costs less than 10 cents to manufacture.
cheers
There are other choices besides the jot styles but I do like that brand. I have a normal size one for the Nexus and a smaller one for my phone. They don't compare to devices which have a special additional layer in the screen and work with a dedicated stylus. My HTC Evo View 4G (and is wifi only sibling the Flyer) can't be matched by a capacitance screen in any way. HTC also made a 10" tablet. The Galaxy Note 2 has a dual screen also. But mostly there just aren't any options to do delicate input on Android devices (or iDevices for that matter.)
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As far as I know Samsung adds a special digitizer by wacom for their Note devices so it's basically a proper wacom tablet. That's what I heard when they launched the first Galaxy Note anyway.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008M2GJ12/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00
I got that one a couple of weeks ago and its awesome, it has an actual pen under the cap too and it looks like a fancy pen.
Dagi Capacitive stylus. It comes with a 4gb thumb drive and the tip is very accurate. You can Find it on ebay. I find the tip very accurate while drawing and coloring.
A lot depends on the app as well, have a look for Markers on Play which is a freehand drawing app that will vary line thickness with pressure (or more likely coverage) even with your finger.
Troute said:
A lot depends on the app as well, have a look for Markers on Play which is a freehand drawing app that will vary line thickness with pressure (or more likely coverage) even with your finger.
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Yep. Some of the pen selections in different apps have something which is called "pressure", but what they do is simply "bleed" bigger and bigger if you keep the stylus in one spot... kind of like the way a fountain pen will create a blot just by leaving it in one spot for too long. The slower the stroke, the fatter the line thickness. Not pressure, though. The same effect can be created in a single stroke, but you have to move the stylus more slowly rather than pressing harder.
blunden said:
As far as I know Samsung adds a special digitizer by wacom for their Note devices so it's basically a proper wacom tablet. That's what I heard when they launched the first Galaxy Note anyway.
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Thanks for the correction - that sure looks right. Here's someone on XDA that did a S-Pen teardown. Based on the fact there's no battery and there appears to be a magnetic pickup coil, it sure looks like Wacom technology.
I guess that means those screens have both a capacitive sensor array *and* the raster-scanned Wacom EMR grid.
Not obvious where the pressure sensor is in that teardown photo, but Wacom says they are doing exactly that.
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So, I know Asus announced that they won't be making a keyboard case for the Nexus 7, but do you think that a decent third party keybard case will be released? Because otherwise I'm currently shopping for Bluetooth keyboards for the Nexus 7 on amazon, and I'm looking at the amazonbasics bt keyboard.
It's 10.4 in wide which seems like less than other bt keyboards on amazon, which seem to be like 12in. I don't want something that's reaaaaaly tiny, which will be an issue for me if there is gonna be a keyboard case, because the Nexus 7 itself is something like 7.7 in wide, and that would seem awkward having a longer keyboard than the tablet itself.
What do you recommend? Wait it out, or just pick up any bt keyboard?
Thanks,
aaalso, I don't know if this is standard or anything, but can you connect more than one bt device at a time to the Nexus 7?
The keyboard would be ridiculously tiny, I wouldn't hold my breath for a keyboard case. There isn't one that I know of for the Fire or the Tab 7.7.
This should work. Get it with a right-angle micro-USB to USB adapter.
http://www.amazon.com/Artifical-Leather-Built--Keyboard-Black/dp/B004INMGV6
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What do you think of the Zagg flex keyboard?
http://www.zagg.com/accessories/zaggkeys-flex-tablet-keyboard-stand.php
Looks like a nice lightweight keyboard option. I know it doesn't give a laptop effect like you would get with a keyboardcase or transformer dock but portability was one of the main selling points of the Nexus 7 for me so I think I would go this option. maybe get a separate case maybe not. also it's cheaper from amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/ZAGG-FOLZKFLE...UTF8&colid=1FXTT02DWHXTB&coliid=IEBVJVY46SSS8
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What do you think of the Zagg flex keyboard?
http://www.zagg.com/accessories/zaggkeys-flex-tablet-keyboard-stand.php
Looks like a nice lightweight keyboard option. I know it doesn't give a laptop effect like you would get with a keyboardcase or transformer dock but portability was one of the main selling points of the Nexus 7 for me so I think I would go this option. maybe get a separate case maybe not. also it's cheaper from amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/ZAGG-FOLZKFLE...UTF8&colid=1FXTT02DWHXTB&coliid=IEBVJVY46SSS8
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Wow! That actually looks really nice! Thank you for finding that. I'll have to investigate a little further to see if I cant find itto cheaper anywhere else, but otherwise I like it so far.
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This looks nice for 15 bucks
http://www.justamazingdeals.com/
Bluetooth Keyboard
I ordered the Logitech Android Bluetooth Keyboard. I got it off of ebay for around $30 shipped (refurb). I'm sort of dubious that a keyboard that could fit into a case would also be a keyboard that would benefit typing over and above an onscreen keyboard.
Read the reviews on that Amazon page, they're pretty great. I think the logitech keyboard is small enough to be always in my bag, but big enough to give me a significant jump in my ability to type things if/when I'm in a note taking station.
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I ordered the Logitech Android Bluetooth Keyboard. I got it off of ebay for around $30 shipped (refurb). I'm sort of dubious that a keyboard that could fit into a case would also be a keyboard that would benefit typing over and above an onscreen keyboard.
Read the reviews on that Amazon page, they're pretty great. I think the logitech keyboard is small enough to be always in my bag, but big enough to give me a significant jump in my ability to type things if/when I'm in a note taking station.
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That keyboard is awesome. My gf has it for her transformer and it's really quick and responsive. She types almost a hundred wpm and has no lag issues.
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christohfur said:
What do you think of the Zagg flex keyboard?
http://www.zagg.com/accessories/zaggkeys-flex-tablet-keyboard-stand.php
Looks like a nice lightweight keyboard option. I know it doesn't give a laptop effect like you would get with a keyboardcase or transformer dock but portability was one of the main selling points of the Nexus 7 for me so I think I would go this option. maybe get a separate case maybe not. also it's cheaper from amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/ZAGG-FOLZKFLE...UTF8&colid=1FXTT02DWHXTB&coliid=IEBVJVY46SSS8
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Nice find!
I will highly consider this...
rejctchoir said:
I ordered the Logitech Android Bluetooth Keyboard. I got it off of ebay for around $30 shipped (refurb). I'm sort of dubious that a keyboard that could fit into a case would also be a keyboard that would benefit typing over and above an onscreen keyboard.
Read the reviews on that Amazon page, they're pretty great. I think the logitech keyboard is small enough to be always in my bag, but big enough to give me a significant jump in my ability to type things if/when I'm in a note taking station.
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went through several bluetooth keyboards before finally getting this one. By far the best I've used; about 90% of regular keyboard size and logitech quality. I'd recommend it over any other bluetooth keyboard on the market. Check logitech's outlet site for dented box for a good deal with full warranty. Don't waste your time with a keyboard case though; even on a 10" tablet the keyboard is way too small for human hands (I tried 3 different ones for the Galaxy tab 10.1 and all were unusable).
Back in the good old Palm PDA days in early 2000s, I had a logitech foldable keyboard, it was pretty sweet. http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-TypeAway-Keyboard-Ultra-Folding/dp/B00006B9CO Here is hoping 7in tablets revive that line of great products again.
i really want something like this:
duh
thekillingtree said:
i really want something like this:
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Then get a surface.
slack04 said:
went through several bluetooth keyboards before finally getting this one. By far the best I've used; about 90% of regular keyboard size and logitech quality. I'd recommend it over any other bluetooth keyboard on the market. Check logitech's outlet site for dented box for a good deal with full warranty. Don't waste your time with a keyboard case though; even on a 10" tablet the keyboard is way too small for human hands (I tried 3 different ones for the Galaxy tab 10.1 and all were unusable).
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Well, I'd recommend trying a few out in a well-stocked store (e.g., Fry's, Best Buy, etc.). I've had a few devices with smaller-than-normal keyboards, and pretty quickly my hands have developed motor memory such that I adapt and can type very quickly. I've found the quality of the keys (e.g., touch, firmness, range of motion) mean more than size.
OTOH, if you find it impossible to adapt, by all means go for a full-size keyboard with the trade-off being portability.
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Well, I'd recommend trying a few out in a well-stocked store (e.g., Fry's, Best Buy, etc.). I've had a few devices with smaller-than-normal keyboards, and pretty quickly my hands have developed motor memory such that I adapt and can type very quickly. I've found the quality of the keys (e.g., touch, firmness, range of motion) mean more than size.
OTOH, if you find it impossible to adapt, by all means go for a full-size keyboard with the trade-off being portability.
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Maybe if you have tiny hands. Also, you're sort of missing the connection: none of the quality keyboard makers would make one of these tiny cases (exception being the garbage Zagg by logitech keyboard case for the Galaxy tab 10.1). So you're not going to find a keyboard that is both quality and small; nor will you find a small keyboard that is quality. Mutual exclusivity.
Also you're mistaken if you think you're losing portability with the logitech android keyboard. Considering the built-in stand, all I need for a 7" tablet is the keyboard case, the tablet, and a thin slide-in case for the tablet (this is what I did with my Galaxy tab plus before I sold it...).
This one looks pretty good. Small form factor, bluetooth and rechargeable.
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/usb-rechargeable-ultra-slim-80-key-bluetooth-keyboard-white-silver-104991?item=42
http://www.amazon.com/Artifical-Leather-Built--Keyboard-Black/dp/B004INMGV6
ive got one of these ordered.
whilst the keyboard's dimensions may seem a bit small, i think the keys will end up being close to standard sized. if you measure out your keyboard, 20cm wide is enough to fit most of the alphanumeric keys, ignoring the numpad and arrow keys section.
Souai said:
http://www.amazon.com/Artifical-Leather-Built--Keyboard-Black/dp/B004INMGV6
ive got one of these ordered.
whilst the keyboard's dimensions may seem a bit small, i think the keys will end up being close to standard sized. if you measure out your keyboard, 20cm wide is enough to fit most of the alphanumeric keys, ignoring the numpad and arrow keys section.
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$10. I'm sure it will be quality. If you want a laugh, read some of the 5-star reviews. I always think it's funny that these chinese companies don't just hire a couple of translators rather than just using babelfish...
(BTW - just to be clear: I have this case. It's one of the several that I tried before settling on the logitech for android keyboard. I still have it because it came directly from China and I couldn't reasonably return it. Don't be fooled; It's absolute garbage. Even if it was moderately good quality (it's not) the keys are tiny and either don't work or they stick; the case comes apart quickly, and there's nothing to stop the tablet from coming out the sides. Really. This is pure garbage. If you can you should cancel).
I'm thinking of getting a handheld keyboard. Do you think that it's a good idea as I'm only going to use it for minor emails.
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Then get a surface.
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that's such a stupid response. the original ipad had a cool case that held the keyboard with it. why carry 2 items individually when you can carry both as 1?
however, i feel like that's not going to be likely due it being 7"
I ordered http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004OB0EBQ/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00 in hopes it'd work with my Nexus 7... and it works beautifully. $9.48 shipped isn't a bad deal!
speednub said:
I ordered http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004OB0EBQ/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00 in hopes it'd work with my Nexus 7... and it works beautifully. $9.48 shipped isn't a bad deal!
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Nice, usb to micro adaptor?
Doesn't make sense why they just slapped on a normal USB and not just added a small micro USB connector. Honestly they could have integrated the cable behind the screen and used a 90 degree micro USB to make a fairly seamless design.
yup!
I agree. But it's china made, and i think its totally worth it for the price.
Is there a way to conceal the USB cables? I'm looking for a case with a keyboard but I don't want it to look that jumbled
speednub said:
yup!
I agree. But it's china made, and i think its totally worth it for the price.
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Except there's no way to connect it on it's own.
redmonke255 said:
Doesn't make sense why they just slapped on a normal USB and not just added a small micro USB connector. Honestly they could have integrated the cable behind the screen and used a 90 degree micro USB to make a fairly seamless design.
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i bought the same case and it arrived already. havent got my nexus yet but it should arrive next week. the case works with my galaxy note though. its not a bad case, but its not a full size keyboard, so the keys are a bit smaller and squished together. it has decent tactility when typing, and overall is quite usable for a portable keyboard case. it can take a while to adapt to it if you're normally used to a full size keyboard.
the only major gripe i have with mine is that the keys are recessed, not raised. so for people like me, who normally use the side of their thumb for the spacebar, you may find that you'll keep hitting leather unless you raise their hands to tap the spacebar.
i'll probably only use it when im out and about or when im at work. when im at home, i can just hook up my ducky cherry red mechanical keyboard via usb on the go for full backlit fullsized keyboard goodness. but i feel like this keyboard case is $10 well spent.
oh and the reason why they didnt have it going straight to microusb is to maintain compatibility with other devices that may have their own proprietary connectors and devices that have a full sized usb port. this way, they'll only need to give you a different adapter cable (usb on the go) rather than having to mass produce different keyboards with different cables. ive got a right angled usb on the go adapter so it doesnt look as bad as the one in the pics previously posted.
overall i'd give the case a 7 out of 10. its fairly decent quality for the price, and does a good job of turning a tablet (or a phablet like my galaxy note) into a netbook. it doesnt have the backup battery function or usb ports or tight fit that you would see in the keyboard dock of the asus transformer series, but considering the price, would you really expect it to?
How good does the case hold the Nexus? It looks to only have through grapple points, but surely the Nexus could just slide out.
I will be moving around a bit with the nexus, and have it in my bag, etc.
I would hate to drop it....
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How good does the case hold the Nexus? It looks to only have through grapple points, but surely the Nexus could just slide out.
I will be moving around a bit with the nexus, and have it in my bag, etc.
I would hate to drop it....
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the grabble points are fairly stiff. from the way they feel, i believe theyre metal (probably aluminium as they are bendable with a bit of effort) coated in leather. The top grapple point is also aluminium coated in leather and it is also spring loaded to hold it in place and to allow it to be adjustable for different width tablets. because of the spring, the clamping force is at its peak when the top grapple point is at its highest, but i probably wouldnt rely on that alone to hold a device in place if you place it in a bag that you tend to throw around a lot. if you wrap your nexus in a TPU or silicone case before putting it in this case, then that will assist in keeping the device in place a bit better. the grip would be better if these grapple points were coated in TPU or silicone instead, but its good enough for the price.
but this is from my experimenting with my galaxy note though. according to google, my nexus 7 should arrive sometime this week so i wont be able to provide you guys with more hands on info until later this week.
I purchased this after reading about it here. I am actually slightly impressed with the idea; typing on a keyboard that small isn't the best idea, but it is also not that bad. As long as I remember to type a bit slower than I want to try to type, I can do rather well -- and the keys are a bit mushy regardless.
The clip doesn't hold the Nexus 7 in very well at all, though; one of my photos shows how you can just slide it in and out. Also, it is giant -- bigger than the Nexus 7 in all dimensions, and 3 or 4 times as thick altogether when closed (with the Nexus 7 inside.) However -- it was only $10. I might pull it apart and tinker with it later; for this price, I regret nothing, but wouldn't really recommend it.
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Ordered it, brief review pending, it'll be here Thursday
Hullo everyone, I took the plunge and ordered an Adonit Jot Mini stylus for my Nexus 7. I'm really excited to see how well it performs. I've heard that the input on all of the Adonit styli starts to go intermittent, but everyone's saying that a little thermal paste where the ball contacts the plastic disk solves the problem like a charm.
I'll post a short review as a reply when I finally get it, and then another one in a few weeks after more extensive use. I am a design student, so I'll probably be making heavy use of this once school starts up again this fall.
For anyone who's interested,
Adonit Jot Mini (from official site)
adonit.net/product/jot-mini-2/
(I'm not allowed to post working links yet, sorry).
Is there anyone else who is using an Adonit Jot stylus for their Nexus 7? How is it?
P.S. Your darned annoying reCaptchas on here are nigh on impossible to read (5+ refreshes per post).
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Ordered it, brief review pending, it'll be here Thursday
Hullo everyone, I took the plunge and ordered an Adonit Jot Mini stylus for my Nexus 7. I'm really excited to see how well it performs. I've heard that the input on all of the Adonit styli starts to go intermittent, but everyone's saying that a little thermal paste where the ball contacts the plastic disk solves the problem like a charm.
I'll post a short review as a reply when I finally get it, and then another one in a few weeks after more extensive use. I am a design student, so I'll probably be making heavy use of this once school starts up again this fall.
For anyone who's interested,
Adonit Jot Mini (from official site)
adonit.net/product/jot-mini-2/
(I'm not allowed to post working links yet, sorry).
Is there anyone else who is using an Adonit Jot stylus for their Nexus 7? How is it?
P.S. Your darned annoying reCaptchas on here are nigh on impossible to read (5+ refreshes per post).
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Looks like my boker pen lol, but my boker is NOT a stylus lol...
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Who copied who?
Here's the Jot mini
Oh wow, good observation. It's pretty suspicious for sure.
That's a sweet looking pen. With it retracted it almost looks like a stylus (the darker one).
I have the adonit jot pro and it does not work on the nexus 7. What is this thermal paste you are talking about?
Thermal paste is the stuff that goes between a processor and heat sink on your pc's motherboard. Google for Arctic Silver if you need an example.
The thermal paste is definitely needed, I had the regular sized one before and it would always skip.
Does this work for note taking? Still trying to find a good note taking stylus.
docmars said:
Ordered it, brief review pending, it'll be here Thursday
Hullo everyone, I took the plunge and ordered an Adonit Jot Mini stylus for my Nexus 7. I'm really excited to see how well it performs. I've heard that the input on all of the Adonit styli starts to go intermittent, but everyone's saying that a little thermal paste where the ball contacts the plastic disk solves the problem like a charm.
I'll post a short review as a reply when I finally get it, and then another one in a few weeks after more extensive use. I am a design student, so I'll probably be making heavy use of this once school starts up again this fall.
For anyone who's interested,
Adonit Jot Mini (from official site)
adonit.net/product/jot-mini-2/
(I'm not allowed to post working links yet, sorry).
Is there anyone else who is using an Adonit Jot stylus for their Nexus 7? How is it?
P.S. Your darned annoying reCaptchas on here are nigh on impossible to read (5+ refreshes per post).
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I have an Adoit Jot Pro, it works great on my TF300t ad my Nexus 7. After a while the disc will stop working properly so I suggest buying replacement discs just to have them on standby.
Realy been pondering if i should get this
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Really no updates after all these months? Come on people, maintain your threads...
I Had a JOT for a long time and worked great on my Skyrocket. But this thing sucks on my Nexus 7. I have to press down with some force for it to work, and I have my skin all over the metal part. I will not use force for the screens protection. I am using a great app called Sketch.
Maybe my Jot disk is out of whack but the JOT was just sent to me brand new as a replacement. I will continue to Google search the issue.
My Jot pro is about 3 months old still works same as the day i purchased it.. Its not perfect it just works.. I will say i have tried many of them and this one is the best out there right now.. i Wish i could get something to work half as accurate as my Intuos 4 wacom tablet.
Just my opinion..
Oh and i have a cheap plastic screen protector these things will not work very well with the poly soft type skins to much friction and will wear out the ball joint in the disk ..
I was looking at one of these but heard that they click a lot when the plastic hits the screen and kinda seem hit or miss. I decided to get a boxwave from amazon and I love this thing. It has clothed mesh tip so IMO its super smooth AND really accurate. Almost no errors with this stylus. I haven't done a lot of drawing or hand written notes but the quick doodles I've done always seem to be on point.
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For a stylus I have been using my Kickstarter pen, the Titanium and Aluminum pen and stylus, from BigIdea.com.
The titanium is pricy but heavy and long. But the XTS (aka smaller) versions work well from what I have seen.
http://www.bigidesign.com/welcome/solid-aluminum-pen-stylus/#!prettyPhoto
Just found this thread by a search. Love my jot pro but just ran into disc issues on it. Like anything that wears out this slowly had issues. Spoiled with my Samsung phones and being able yo play with sensitivity. Yes did have to have a lil more pressure that. A feather like touch on it but not much but as I got used to it it wasn't an issue. But just recent ly I had skips I kept blaming the apps and going into Dev settings to see touch pressure. That went first then reduced to where a hard touch was registering as 22. While other styluses registered fine. And it registers fine on my phones but the nexus stopped today. That's a issue. But will try cleaning methods I just don't want to hurt the thing since I just got it in Dec. But one month seems like a truly short lifespan. Thoughts?
tl; dr: The Kensington Keyfolio Pro 2 Universal has a great keyboard, which is easy to touch type on, but the case adds a lot of bulk to the Nexus 10, and is a bit floppy.
This review is going to be similar in vein to the Jalopnik "will it baby?" car reviews. After the arrival of our (human) baby recently, I was looking for a device which I could use to entertain myself and perhaps do (very) light work on while holding the baby. My usual 15" 1920x1080 laptop is great, but is just not manageable with one hand, particularly when the other is holding a squirming infant. I narrowed my choices down to either the Nexus 10 or an 11" chromebook. I decided to get the Nexus 10, mostly because of the existing base of Android apps.
I'm a Unix system administrator so I live at the command line. Hacker's Keyboard with prediction disabled and just the right amount of haptic feedback makes the Nexus 10 a barely good enough ssh terminal. I found that I could carry the Nexus 10 around, but when I had to do some kind of command line thing on a server that I was waiting until I could get back to my laptop, which defeated the purpose of buying a new device. So, I decided I needed a bluetooth keyboard case.
Reading the forum here and other reviews, it became clear that the same keyboard used in very similar cases by Poetic, MoKo, and others was not that good. I already have a difficult to type on bluetooth keyboard by Azio. There is also the snap-on style keyboard by MiniSuit and others, which is its own case, and the tablet is supported in a groove. That also gets mediocre reviews. To me, it appears to perhaps be a quality issue, in that some people say it holds their tablet securely and works well, while others say that they tablet is loose. Re: the squirmy infant, I need something that holds the tablet well enough that a wayward foot won't cause adult crying.
I settled on the Kensington Keyfolio Pro 2 Universal. Mostly because I could get it locally from Walmart for $60 (using site-to-store, because it's $90 in store, but $60 online). Then, if I didn't like it I could easily return it, and still be testing it in the return window for the Nexus 10 itself.
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The keyboard is the best part of this case. It has smaller than standard chiclet style keys, but is very easy to touch type on. The keys are pretty much all in the standard places. No page-up/page-down or home/end, but arrows, ctrl, alt, and some Android specific keys are there. With no special apps to handle a hardware keyboard the special keys for home, back, search, menu, volume+, volume-, and contacts all work perfectly. The keys for email, web, music, and mute do not work. The gap between the keys is just large enough for me to not hit multiple keys by accident, which was my biggest complaint about the Azio keyboard. One handed typing (in my case the other hand is baby managing) is as passable as can be expected for somebody who is a quick touch typist. The keyboard being small actually helps, and the hard keys are easier to use than on screen ones.
The keyboard works great in VX ConnectBot while ssh-ed to a Unix server. Control, Alt (meta), Escape, and the arrow keys all work as expected once I enabled the hardware keyboard option in VX ConnectBot. Running emacs in an ssh session is a total non-issue, and works perfectly.
The case is the low point of this setup. It's not terrible, but isn't everything I could want. The keyboard is removable and attaches by magnets into the case. It is very secure, and doesn't easily pop out, which is something I was worried about. Unfortunately with the strong keyboard magnets, there is no magnet to sleep the Nexus 10. Perhaps when I get a chance I'll pull apart an old hard disk and put a magnet in the right spot.
The Nexus 10 is held in by velcro backed rubber pieces which hold the corners. It was a bit fiddly to get the Nexus 10 installed, and if you're OCD you'll spend lots of time getting it centered and straight. I didn't really care, so it's just stuck in there. In the baby related upsetting of the case and tablet, it's not fallen out. One of the rubber pieces does cover the sleep/wake/power button in the corner. It can still be activated by pressing the rubber piece itself. The volume rocker is unobstructed. Fortunately, once the keyboard is paired, pressing any key will wake the tablet. If left on, the keyboard will go to sleep, so the first keypress will wake the keyboard, and the second will wake the tablet.
When closed, the case is about 1.5" thick, and total weight is 2.66 pounds. The rubber corner pieces seem to keep the keys from hitting the screen.
There is an elastic strap to keep it closed. I won't worry about sticking it in my motorcycle luggage when I'm back at work.
The case is lapable. It's floppy, so your lap will have to be somewhat level, because if it tilts too far back, the Nexus 10 will fall backwards. There is velcro at the bottom edge of the Nexus 10 vertical which holds it to the horizontal piece of the case. Where you attach it allows a bit of adjustment of the viewing angle. The screen on the Nexus 10 is so good, that a few degrees of difference doesn't matter for viewing. The hold is not strong enough to allow great one handed moving of the case in the open position. It will flop into a completely horizontal position, and will pop back upright when set on a solid surface.
In summary, will it baby? The case can hold the tablet in a reading position next to me on the couch while both hands are involved with the baby. It is easy to type on with both hands. When one hand is available, it can be moved to my left or right with some flopping and adjustment.
I'm posting a brief followup after having the keyboard for nearly four weeks. When I first got it I charged it to full, and have not recharged it since then. I leave it on all the time and let it go to sleep on its own. I use it everyday, often for several hours, and the power light just now began to flash, indicating a low charge. I think that is excellent battery life.
Some reviews of other bluetooth keyboards report that keys will repeat. Occasionally this one does that, but turning the keyboard off and on again fixes the problem. It doesn't happen very frequently, and is easy to fix when it does.
A more worrisome problem is that the glue connecting the velcro to the rubber corner pieces has weakened, letting the rubber pieces slide off the velcro. I've seen that others have reported similar problems with this case. If it continues to be an issue, I'll have to contact Kensington to see what they're willing to do about it.
Followup followup:
It's been a while, but I thought I'd add this to the record, just for completeness. The glue holding the velcro to two of the corner pieces weakened and the velcro slid off. I re-glued the velcro with Barge glue, and it hasn't come off since. I contacted Kensington about the problem, and they sent me a whole new Keyfolio case without any hassle, so now I have a spare.
In the end, Kensington stood behind their product, though I'm sure the new one has the same design flaw of poor quality glue.
Hello everyone
I was wondering if Samsung S Pen could work with our G 2. I know it must be something specific that makes them work together (some sort of wireless charging coil in Galaxy Note and another receving coil in the S Pen) but maybe, with the proper powering, this might work on other devices.
What do you think?
Oh... by the way: where can I get samsung apps store?
The Wacom digitizer in the Galaxy Note devices is an active digitizer which requires the "S Pen" and doesn't work like a typical capacitive stylus does (which can also be used with the same devices too since it's basically an artificial finger in principle).
You'll never ever get an S Pen to work with any old capacitive screen that doesn't have Wacom support, it just won't happen - it's a technical impossibility.
If you want a stylus for use with the G2 that has a somewhat 'finer point' to it, this is pretty much the only option there is:
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Pay close attention to the tip there as it uses a tiny piece of capacitive plastic that slides on the surface of the device you're writing on - it's not a pure 'fine point' there but it does allow for some really precise writing, more so than the typical "rubber dome" style of capacitive stylus. It's only about $16 at Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CA65AR0...UTF8&colid=RFPF09154TIY&coliid=I1N84MLH54CA2S
I have one myself and it works great, and it's far less expensive than some others that are not capable of that 'fine point' style.
Thanks
br0adband said:
The Wacom digitizer in the Galaxy Note devices is an active digitizer which requires the "S Pen" and doesn't work like a typical capacitive stylus does (which can also be used with the same devices too since it's basically an artificial finger in principle).
You'll never ever get an S Pen to work with any old capacitive screen that doesn't have Wacom support, it just won't happen - it's a technical impossibility.
If you want a stylus for use with the G2 that has a somewhat 'finer point' to it, this is pretty much the only option there is:
Pay close attention to the tip there as it uses a tiny piece of capacitive plastic that slides on the surface of the device you're writing on - it's not a pure 'fine point' there but it does allow for some really precise writing, more so than the typical "rubber dome" style of capacitive stylus. It's only about $16 at Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CA65AR0...UTF8&colid=RFPF09154TIY&coliid=I1N84MLH54CA2S
I have one myself and it works great, and it's far less expensive than some others that are not capable of that 'fine point' style.
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I thought so myself. But while searching for the solution I found that Samsung has a C Pen, that works with all capacitive screens and it's more stylish and has a double function: as pen and as stylus. And for 20 euro can be bought on ebay. Thanks anyway.
BigBadSheep said:
I thought so myself. But while searching for the solution I found that Samsung has a C Pen, that works with all capacitive screens and it's more stylish and has a double function: as pen and as stylus. And for 20 euro can be bought on ebay. Thanks anyway.
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Not sure what you mean by double function because every stylus is also a pen. And the tip on the C Pen looks way less accurate than the one linked above. To each his own.
BigBadSheep said:
I thought so myself. But while searching for the solution I found that Samsung has a C Pen, that works with all capacitive screens and it's more stylish and has a double function: as pen and as stylus. And for 20 euro can be bought on ebay. Thanks anyway.
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Had never heard of such a thing but after just doing research into that device (the C Pen) it appears it does not work with any other devices, capacitive or not. Strange considering it should based on how it's built and designed, but I just read a few dozen reports from people that have devices other than a Galaxy S3 and they all said the C Pen did not function for them as they'd expected it to.
So again, caveat emptor... if you do get one make sure you get it from someplace that has a decent return policy in case it doesn't work with the G2.
While I was searching for a phone I remember that a certain version of the G2 has a stylus out of the box (there is even a hole in the frame to allow the stylus to be stored inside). What kind of pen would that be? Or am I mixing it up with a G3?
Lg g3 stylus
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