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[Q] Mounting SC Card

Hello all,
I'm new to this forum
I had Darky Rom (android 3.2) and just went to Slim ICS (android 4.0.4), after installing CM 9 nightly build.
But on both ROMs I can't seem to mount the sd card. Sorry if this has been asked before. Am I doing something wrong?
File manager says "this folder is empty" and camera says "mount usb storage before using this camera." but when going to the settings and mounting it. It says "Preparing SD card", but then nothing happens and everything stays gray.
So basically my external sd doesn't get mounted and I can't access it. (also I can't view the files of my internal sd if I'm not wrong?)

In ICS roms EMMC is your external SD card.

Thanks! Found it

Another question:
So this sd card is in another folder now. But what about the apps that access it? They say I have no sd storage now. Like the contacts app of Google, when I want to import my contacts. Or the camera app.. Read somewhere this was a general problem. But how is everyone using this mod then if this doesnt work?

Well a lot of apps have updated so it does work definetly not all though. In some ICS roms like ics333 I can pick where my camera saves to within the camera app (it calls it sd card still but saves to emmc. I would just search with google if you are looking at a fix for it. I know there was some sort of fix for Game Loft apps that I read. I also read there was a mount SD as internal storage type fix. I just haven't needed it. There has to be other fixes but might be rom specific. I haven't used any of these fixes so can't help further with that

Thanks Shooper! I think the issue is different here. For more info I made a new topic about it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1657623

ICS Camera Default Save Location Question

Is there a way to change where the ICS Camera saves its images to, preferably to the external SD card? There's no option in the camera itself. Is there a hack?

There is. Change Storage from "Phone" to "Memory card" in Camera Settings.

nposix said:
There is. Change Storage from "Phone" to "Memory card" in Camera Settings.
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I'm referring to the stock ICS camera that comes with an AOSP rom, not the Samsung supplied camera. If there's a setting in the stock ICS camera, I'm not seeing it.

I have an AOSP ROM and I can't find the default storage for the camera. I know that the images goes to my Internal Memory but when I removed my SD Card, the camera won't work because it cant detect my SD Card.
Update:
After posting my answer to your query, I check my camera app again and somehow I got the asnwer. Change your mode to Video. Then the settings for the storage is in it. I choose mine from SD Card to Internal. However you still need the SD Card for it to work. The system requires an SD Card first inorder to function.

appro77 said:
Is there a way to change where the ICS Camera saves its images to, preferably to the external SD card? There's no option in the camera itself. Is there a hack?
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Yes you are right that there is no option in Camera Setting of Android 4.0 ICS. Answers in many forums about this problem are wrong that " Go to settings and change storage location" .... this can not be achieved in ICS 4.0.
But solution exist. Just delete DCIM Folder from internal storage and remove SD Card from mobile. Go to camera and take the snap.... this time it will store in internal storage bcz there is no SD Card. In the 2nd step .... switch your mobile off and insert SD Card into mobile. Switch on your mobile and now take the snap. This time Android OS will take this newly installed memory (SD Card)as its default location. Check this trick....

[Q] USB storage?

Hey, what's up? I bought my new Galaxy Note yesterday, and there are some things I don't understand. One of the first apps I installed was App2SD. The Note didn't came with an SD (today I bought one), but something appeared as SD Card. When in I entered to the app, I saw something very interesting. It said that the System storage was 2GB (??!?) and the SD (it didn't had any SD) was 11GB. Today I installed the SD (real) and the app still the SD was 11GB!!! I downloaded MI file explorer, to see better the storage and install some apps I moved to the SD, and when I entered to SD tab, there were folders of Camera, Downloads.. but I couldn't find any of my apps. Then I find the folder "external_sd" and I opened it. Yes, all the apks I moved to the SD were there. So, I thought , lets see the storage tab in Task manager menu. There appeared 3 things: the SD card (8gb), the system storage (2gb) and the USB storage (11gb). So, I realized that all downloads and photos were saving in the USB storage (that is part of the System storage I think). I could change where does the photos save, but no the downloads and apps. They are still saving in that USB storage. And something it was very strange: when I move to SD some apps (Zen Bound 2, 200MB) it appears in the SD but really small (200MB to 20MB) So, the questions are:
1. Can I change that the apps don't install in that USB storage?
2. Can I turn off that USB storage?
3. Why when I enter in Settings and I move an app to the SD, in app2sd appears like it was moved to the USB storage? Or it moved to the real SD?
4. Why the size of the apps change?
Thanks really
alancito10t

alancito10t said:
Hey, what's up? I bought my new Galaxy Note yesterday, and there are some things I don't understand. One of the first apps I installed was App2SD. The Note didn't came with an SD (today I bought one), but something appeared as SD Card. When in I entered to the app, I saw something very interesting. It said that the System storage was 2GB (??!?) and the SD (it didn't had any SD) was 11GB. Today I installed the SD (real) and the app still the SD was 11GB!!! I downloaded MI file explorer, to see better the storage and install some apps I moved to the SD, and when I entered to SD tab, there were folders of Camera, Downloads.. but I couldn't find any of my apps. Then I find the folder "external_sd" and I opened it. Yes, all the apks I moved to the SD were there. So, I thought , lets see the storage tab in Task manager menu. There appeared 3 things: the SD card (8gb), the system storage (2gb) and the USB storage (11gb). So, I realized that all downloads and photos were saving in the USB storage (that is part of the System storage I think). I could change where does the photos save, but no the downloads and apps. They are still saving in that USB storage. And something it was very strange: when I move to SD some apps (Zen Bound 2, 200MB) it appears in the SD but really small (200MB to 20MB) So, the questions are:
1. Can I change that the apps don't install in that USB storage?
2. Can I turn off that USB storage?
3. Why when I enter in Settings and I move an app to the SD, in app2sd appears like it was moved to the USB storage? Or it moved to the real SD?
4. Why the size of the apps change?
Thanks really
alancito10t
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Ok, that was a lot to read Ok, as far as Galaxy Note's Memory management is considered, the partition is as:
A. 2GB (1.97GB Precisely) : Acts as ROM
B. 11GB (11.07GB Precisely) : Acts as Internal SD Card
C. X GB (the memory card which you insert) : Acts as External SD Card
So, In A there are built in apps which comes with the ROM you flash.
In B There are apps which you install. The install Location is defined to be in B in your phone by default.
In C You can move the apps using some app such as App2SD or Android Assistant (which I prefer)
If you are concerned with big apps clogging your memory, read ahead:
You can allow your application to install on the device's external storage.
Some types of applications should not allow installation on the external storage.
Installing on the external storage is ideal for large applications that are not tightly integrated with the system (most commonly, games).
If you want to know how to do it, then reply back or PM me. I shall post here.
Hope this helps to clear some basic idea about memory.

[Q] Storage all messed up Paranoid 0.4

Just installed paranoid android from 0.3 to 0.4 all was well but now my sd card shows as internal storage my internal storage seems split between a 11gb more options partition and another 2gb internal partition where my apps go. I cant access my sd card at all on my phone but it shows in setting... Any ideas guys??

I thought there is only a 0.3 version of paranoid? where did you get 0.4?

Sorry, it is 0.3.. Came from 0.2..

it seems to be a bug in paranoid 0.3 alot of people have it..

Is it possible to move Apps to SD card ?

LG Optimus 4X HD
At least on my fone, this is a problem.
There seems to be no way to move the Apps to the Phone SD card or External SD card.
I used several apps ( App2SD etct etc ) from Google Play.
They all show the installed Apps ON PHONE.
And offer the option to select which apps you want to move over to the Phone SD card.
But when I select the Apps to move , the option that comes up only shows two choices: FORCE STOP or UNINSTALL.
Nothing else.
Do these so called new power smartphones prevent any installed apps to be
transferred to the Phone SD card or External SD card ?
I heard from a friend that even some latest Samsung phones have similar limitation features.
Probably there is some technical reason behind this. Perhaps rooting is needed ?
Appreciate if anyone here could enlighten.
Thx.

Actually, app are installed on the sdcard directly. The sdcard is actually the phone memory. Perhaps you want to install app on your micro sd card or the external_sd. You'll need Link 2 SD for that one. Moving apps to sdcard option was removed in ICS.
http://www.chainfire.eu/articles/113/Is_Google_blocking_apps_writing_to_SD_cards_/

Agustus said:
LG Optimus 4X HD
At least on my fone, this is a problem.
There seems to be no way to move the Apps to the Phone SD card or External SD card.
I used several apps ( App2SD etct etc ) from Google Play.
They all show the installed Apps ON PHONE.
And offer the option to select which apps you want to move over to the Phone SD card.
But when I select the Apps to move , the option that comes up only shows two choices: FORCE STOP or UNINSTALL.
Nothing else.
Do these so called new power smartphones prevent any installed apps to be
transferred to the Phone SD card or External SD card ?
I heard from a friend that even some latest Samsung phones have similar limitation features.
Probably there is some technical reason behind this. Perhaps rooting is needed ?
Appreciate if anyone here could enlighten.
Thx.
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The LG 4X has a different memory structure than other Android devices I have used so far.
Normally an android device's integrated storage is partitioned like this:
-You get a program storage (1-2GBs if you are lucky)
-You get what's left of the integrated storage as SD card (minus the OS used space)
-You can add an external SD card which will be your... ermm external SD card
-In OTG enabled devices you can also add a USB storage
Now the difference in our LG 4X is that the manufacturer has opted to combine the program storage and internal storage into one storage location, thus saving us the trouble of moving apps to SD all the time and so giving as 12GBs of storage so we can use however we want.
In my Galaxy S with android 2.3.3, I can also move apps to external SD, but afaik this is not supported in ICS and JB, so yeah I concur your irony above, rergarding the super wow smartphones. Still I am sure there were various reasons for Google to not support it (and maybe moving to external SD was Samsung proprietary operation-not clear about that still)

psolord said:
The LG 4X has a different memory structure than other Android devices I have used so far.
Normally an android device's integrated storage is partitioned like this:
-You get a program storage (1-2GBs if you are lucky)
-You get what's left of the integrated storage as SD card (minus the OS used space)
-You can add an external SD card which will be your... ermm external SD card
-In OTG enabled devices you can also add a USB storage
Now the difference in our LG 4X is that the manufacturer has opted to combine the program storage and internal storage into one storage location, thus saving us the trouble of moving apps to SD all the time and so giving as 12GBs of storage so we can use however we want.
In my Galaxy S with android 2.3.3, I can also move apps to external SD, but afaik this is not supported in ICS and JB, so yeah I concur your irony above, rergarding the super wow smartphones. Still I am sure there were various reasons for Google to not support it (and maybe moving to external SD was Samsung proprietary operation-not clear about that still)
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App2SD was introduced in Android 2.2 (FroYo). However, different developer solutions were already around at that time (a2sd+, link2sd etc.), but they required an ext3/ext4 partition, while the build-in app2sd would move them to a folder (.android-secure) on the FAT32 partition. The app2sd feature was eagerly awaited because of the limited storage devices had back then (the Nexus One had 512MB internal memory, of which 447 were usable and ~150 MB were used for /system). Now with bigger internal storage and the different internal structure which is used since ICS (and which is also the reason newer devices use MTP), moving apps to external SD is no longer officially supported. So you'll just have to use a developer's way again, in our case it's Directory Bind. I haven't used it yet since I still have some free space left, but it was reported to work properly. Afaik it just moves the files to external SD and then links the folders. Root should be required, but I don't know exactly. Personally i'd root nevertheless, as it gives you some advantages (Ti Backup, Ad-Free etc).

psolord said:
The LG 4X has a different memory structure than other Android devices I have used so far.
Normally an android device's integrated storage is partitioned like this:
-You get a program storage (1-2GBs if you are lucky)
-You get what's left of the integrated storage as SD card (minus the OS used space)
-You can add an external SD card which will be your... ermm external SD card
-In OTG enabled devices you can also add a USB storage
Now the difference in our LG 4X is that the manufacturer has opted to combine the program storage and internal storage into one storage location, thus saving us the trouble of moving apps to SD all the time and so giving as 12GBs of storage so we can use however we want.
In my Galaxy S with android 2.3.3, I can also move apps to external SD, but afaik this is not supported in ICS and JB, so yeah I concur your irony above, rergarding the super wow smartphones. Still I am sure there were various reasons for Google to not support it (and maybe moving to external SD was Samsung proprietary operation-not clear about that still)
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Regarding OTG enable devices, I cannot understand why LG 4X doesn't support the OTG feature, it should be important to support it in order to make this smartphone a wonderful replacement of a computer (we may use external usb hard-disk or even external usb DVD/BR-writer).
Regarding internal/external sd card, if I use the command line "mount" inside a terminal, I see two lines including "/mnt/sdcard" and "/mnt/sdcard/external_sd" parameters. My question is: theoretically is it possible to swap the two a/m lines, so to mount "/mnt/sdcard" as external (the real external SD card) and "/mnt/sdcard/external_sd" as internal storage? If possible, how to do it? Root grants are enough to do it, or we need more to do it?