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Nexus 7 ($250) vs IdeaPad A2109 ($300)

Heh, yes it's time for yet another versus thread: Nexus 7 vs IdeaPad A2109.
Both have 16GB, 1280x800 res, Teg3.
N7 has 7" LCD, JB.
Idea has 9" LCD, HDMI-out, rear cam, micro-SD. It has 4.0, so there'll be a lag in getting CM10.
Worth it for +$50? Wait for sale at MicroCenter for $250?
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...1du_9_Tablet_Nv_T30Sl_1_2_1_16Gb_Android.html (in stock)
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It really boils down to what you prefer. I like the size of the nexus 7 my only gripe is I wish it had an option for tablet view by default. Having a rear camera is pretty much point less. I never used it on my ipad, its quicker and easier to just use your cellphone. A high resolution front camera would have been nice but they have to save something for the next nexus tablet.
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Thats a lenovo, right? if so, no develooement support from cds really. the crazy developement we have for N7 is worth it alone, imo. plus we know jb is performing well on n7. not sure how ics is performing on ideapad.
Isnt this lenovo attempt to copy apple with a square tablet aka 4:3 aspect ratio? I like the 16.9 or 16:10 widescreen formats. better for multimedia. I know lenovo releases a square tsblet. not sure if its this one.

Nothing beats direct os support from google... At least for me...

>Isnt this lenovo attempt to copy apple with a square tablet aka 4:3 aspect ratio?
That's the S2109, which has OMAP4430. The A2109 is 16:10 and Teg3. Yeah, confusing.
Yep, we'll see how the reviews fare, and it'll be worth waiting to see what kind of 9" or 10" KF2 Amazon has lined up for Sep 6 announcement. I'm not worried about dev support. As long as it's a decent tablet, then $300 for a 9" (with micro-SD expansion) is a great deal => many will buy one => good dev support. Same goes for KF2.
I don't see this directly competing with N7, but more with the 10" tabs. Only N7 competitors will be a possible KF2, and of course the iPad mini.
>Nothing beats direct os support from google... At least for me...
I think CM10 will come along much faster than CM9, and since all these cheap Teg3 tabs have same underpinnings, I don't see much of a lag time to get JB as older tabs had with ICS. So, yes, direct Goog support is always good, but it's not an essential as, say, for the Xoom. The micro-SD means more to me.

That's a pretty good deal.
I think I paid like $280 (including tax and shipping) for my 16 GB Nexus 7, although it did come with a $25 Google Play credit.
I'd wait to see if it gets Cyanogenmod support or something though

A2109: 167 DPI
N7: 213 DPI
For me, there's no comparison. I'll never get anything less than 200 DPI again, and stare at a bunch of ugly pixellated text.

The one I just bought from Best Buy does not have a micro-SD card slot. I wonder if the one @ B&H really has one. There's a review up at gsminsider.com (in Chinese) that says it does not. B&H also lists it as having GPS, but mine does not have that, either.
Edit: Mine has GPS after all, but no micro-SD card slot unless it's hiding under the speaker cover panel...
I've posted as little more info here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30778633

Lenovo? Nuff said. Stay away from it.
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>The one I just bought from Best Buy does not have a micro-SD card slot.
Major bummer, but for the price it's still is a good value. Can you post some close-ups? Not that I don't believe you, but a thousand words and all that.
Funny thing, went Googling for tab specs and found this "confidential" doc for A2109A. This 'A' version has the OMAP 4430 and listed a micro-SD port. It was supposed to be out in July. I guess the Kai deal came along, and Lenovo peeps retrofitted to get quad. Sad about the zapped SD port.
http://shop.lenovo.com/ISS_Static/WW/LA/Direct/es/co/products/tablets/ideapad/A2109A Datasheet.pdf
BTW, the OMAP4 version listed on the Lenovo is the older S2109. The new A2109 is only listed below in "new products," with no specs.
http://www.lenovo.com/products/us/new-products/
>For me, there's no comparison. I'll never get anything less than 200 DPI again, and stare at a bunch of ugly pixellated text.
Higher res would've been nicer of course. I think 1280x800 is fine for 10" (or 9"), given the lower price. It does pose an interesting comparison between this and the Acer A700 32GB, which is $425 at Newegg. A700's excessive heat ish scared me off.
Anyway, more cheap tabs to come. Acer A210 should be here shortly, and will take over the A200 slot at $250 ($300?). Also Teg3. Downer? Possibly short battery life, like the A200. But BL should be open as with rest of Acer tabs, and it will have full USB port.

mustbepbs said:
Lenovo? Nuff said. Stay away from it.
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why? they make solid laptops.

e.mote said:
>The one I just bought from Best Buy does not have a micro-SD card slot.
Major bummer, but for the price it's still is a good value. Can you post some close-ups? Not that I don't believe you, but a thousand words and all that.
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There are pictures at gsminsider.com. Looks just like the one @ best Buy...
Just search for A2109 at gsminsider.com. There are pictures in the linked review.
Sorry, but I can't post a direct link (< 10 posts, here).

blahblahyoutoo said:
why? they make solid laptops.
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If by solid you mean solid pieces of feces, then yes, you're right. Over the past 2 years I have bought 4 Lenovo laptops for my customers, from high end to mid range. All of them came back to me with fatal issues, 3 of which were motherboard failure. I'd understand if it was a single model having QA issues, but this was multiple models over a 2 year period. I don't trust Lenovo at all anymore. Or Intel boards.
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I have no problem with my Lenovo laptop at all.
I am very interested in the A2109 with its 9" and HDMI out.
Thinking about the Note 10.1, but it may be too expensive for a toy for me...

Is there any word or feeling of community development with this tablet? I am quite interested in this tablet. I have a N7 and love JB and CM10. I would love to be running both of these with this new tablet. It would certainly be a deal breaker for me. It seems that this tablet has no hype and is very underground.Thanks

Lets put tthis bluntly ..lol. there's no hype about it because no one really pressed about it.Lenovo is low key. They do put out some good stuff. But xda developement has always been dead for it. Lets put it this way. Toshiba has better xda support than lenovo. And Toshiba has none..lol. Toshiba and Lenovo are likely the two worst companies whennit comes to xda support. If xda developer support is a concern, then move on stick with nexus 7 or galaxy note 10.1 those are the 2 hottest devices on the market rigght now in tablets. All the major players. Flocking to those devices.

demandarin said:
Lets put tthis bluntly ..lol. there's no hype about it because no one really pressed about it.Lenovo is low key. They do put out some good stuff. But xda developement has always been dead for it. Lets put it this way. Toshiba has better xda support than lenovo. And Toshiba has none..lol. Toshiba and Lenovo are likely the two worst companies whennit comes to xda support. If xda developer support is a concern, then move on stick with nexus 7 or galaxy note 10.1 those are the 2 hottest devices on the market rigght now in tablets. All the major players. Flocking to those devices.
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Thanks for the quick reply. I wish that there was a bigger development scene for this because it has everything I wish the N7 had.

The idea pad is huge not 7 inch and won't fit into your pocket
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Well you cant really fit the N7 in your pocket either lol

Played with one tonight at Best Buy. Screen wasn't as bad as I feared but it's definitely not great. Also strangely uncomfortable to hold for any length of time. Didn't see a microSD slot (at least one site is reporting expandable memory as a feature). Snappy performance. Nothing else really stood out.
Edit: to clarify, when I say the screen isn't great, I'd say out of the N7, GTab2, and iPad, it's definitely the worst of the bunch

Goodphone i5 will sue Apple when iPhone 5 unveils

Thought you guys might be interested in this, it's pretty funny because that is actually how the iPhone 5 screen looks but it's hard to believe they haven't patented it already. Here's the story:
Chinese phone maker Goophone gets full marks for cheek. The day Apple’s iPhone 5 launch was finally announced, Goophone promised to have the phone banned in China… because it has already patented Apple’s design there.
Apple has suffered serious trademark and patent issues in China in the past, but the Goophone claim is causing merriment amongst Mac watchers. The Goophone i5 does indeed look much like the leaked iPhone 5. The move has been described by CultofMac as “wonderfully brazen” – but any attempt to enforce a Chinese patent would surely expose where Goophone got the design in the first place… wouldn’t it?
The Goophone i5, which first surfaced in August, looks superficially like an iPhone, but runs Android 4.1 Jelly Bean. Like the expected iPhone 5, it has a 4-inch screen, a smaller dock connector and larger speakers, and external speaker grills, whilst the headphone socket has moved to the bottom of the phone.
Inside, it is thought to have an Nvidia Tegra 3 quad-core 1.4Ghz CPU and 1GB RAM.
The i5 isn’t yet on sale in China, however, and is expected in the shops somewhat after the iPhone 5 launch.
Goophone’s site features the words “iPhone 5″ prominently in Latin script but its claims to the design seem very weak, especially given the fact that Apple has patents on the shape and style of iPhones going back some years, which have recently been upheld against Samsung in a US court.
GizChina has a video of the device:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdfJCDdQuzE&feature=player_embedded
Apple has only recently settled a claim over the iPad trademark in China, paying $60 million to Proview, the owner of the term “iPad” there, when Proview threatened to ban any sales of iPads in China.
Meanwhile, the inventiveness of Chinese counterfeiters was shown last year, when they were found to have copied three entire Apple Stores.
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Here's the general specs of the phone (visit links to see full specs):
- 4 inch IPS screen, 1280*720 pixel display
- 1.4GHz Tegra 3 quad-core processor, 1GB RAM
- Support 3G network: GSM 850/900/1800/1900 & WCDMA 850/2100 MHz
- 8MP back camera + 1.3MP front camera
- Android 4.0 OS
Souce: http://www.techweekeurope.co.uk/news/goophone-china-patent-iphone-5-91400 & http://android-sale.com/goophone-i5.html
Hope this is the right section, my apologies if not

This is hilarious... thanks for posting the article!

This is called Karma...
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On their face!

they fight and still get along

wjneto said:
they fight and still get along
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this guys are soooo crazy

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lol
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Hell, I just might pick one up!
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well as you all know samsung owns 20% of LTE patents,
so if that 1st apple 4G phone comes out,
samsung will be on thier as*es like a mad dog

WiredPirate said:
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How original and unique is the new iPhone 5 right?
Wait... it's just a iPhone 4 + 3 inch
It's hard to believe everyone already knows the design of the iPhone 5 before the unveil which makes me think we're being mislead on purpose

UrbanDesigns said:
How original and unique is the new iPhone 5 right?
Wait... it's just a iPhone 4 + 3 inch
It's hard to believe everyone already knows the design of the iPhone 5 before the unveil which makes me think we're being mislead on purpose
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poor lost souls,
can you imagine how many are expecting that iphone 5 and will get disappointed?
i think even s3 can beat that icrap5
brainwashed by apple

VaderSKN said:
lol
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Really? This is a forum, not Facebook!
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deathnotice01 said:
poor lost souls,
can you imagine how many are expecting that iphone 5 and will get disappointed?
i think even s3 can beat that icrap5
brainwashed by apple
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Well I believe it won't anyway, I think most things will be similar to the S3, not like it matters. They could make the iPhone 5 a single-core phone with a 3 megapixel camera and it would be THE BEST PHONE EVER MADE! The phone gets carried by the hype too much IMO, don't get me wrong it's a great phone but saying it's the best is absurd

UrbanDesigns said:
Well I believe it won't anyway, I think most things will be similar to the S3, not like it matters. They could make the iPhone 5 a single-core phone with a 3 megapixel camera and it would be THE BEST PHONE EVER MADE! The phone gets carried by the hype too much IMO, don't get me wrong it's a great phone but saying it's the best is absurd
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well the number 1 absurd fact for me is the stupid price,
its way tooo expensive for a device of its kind,
the people get too carried away

deathnotice01 said:
poor lost souls,
can you imagine how many are expecting that iphone 5 and will get disappointed?
i think even s3 can beat that icrap5
brainwashed by apple
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I am glad that these people will get dissapointed, there is only iphone in their minds and something like this: Is iphone the best phone?
ArmorD said:
Really? This is a forum, not Facebook!
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I know.
And today, one guy asked me if iphone was better than One X. I asked how much cores does iphone have, and he asked what cores is.
Really?

iphones are bought mostly by dumb peoples who don't know sh!t about technology, fact is they are way too expensive for the specs they offer... i'd rather stick to cheapest, sh!ttiest android phone (which still have much more to offer, great customization, and custom roms) instead of buying icrap

ArmorD said:
Really? This is a forum, not Facebook!
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Lol :silly:

deathnotice01 said:
well the number 1 absurd fact for me is the stupid price,
its way tooo expensive for a device of its kind,
the people get too carried away
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Yep, like everything else it's overpriced because of the name.
Look at Dr.Dre beats headphones, you'll never see anything as over-priced in your life, they're just above standard headphones with a "b" on the side to remind everyone else that you're better then them, it's just silly (I even own a pair and can say I never use them)

yackovsky said:
iphones are bought mostly by dumb peoples who don't know sh!t about technology, fact is they are way too expensive for the specs they offer... i'd rather stick to cheapest, sh!ttiest android phone (which still have much more to offer, great customization, and custom roms) instead of buying icrap
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Well, the Moto RAZR and Galaxy SIII aren't worth $699 new in box either Freaking old as dirt Android devices are still ridiculously expensive and most of the time can only be bought from the carrier if you want them from a retail space. Sony is about the only company that offers new phones at decent prices. Google releases their Nexus devices at fair retail as well, but their made by different manufacturers so that's a slightly different horse.
Let's just not act like Apple is the only one who beats their customers in the head.

Holy mother of dead pixels!

Im switching to the S4, this is ridiculous.
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It's like a galaxy....

Who's to say you wont get the same or even worse with the S4, It can happen with any model you get

I had the note 2 since it's release date and with much lower PPI I never once noticed any stuck or dead pixels. After using this phone for only 2 days I began to notice these. I could deal with it if there were just a few of them but this is crazy.

cac9478 said:
I had the note 2 since it's release date and with much lower PPI I never once noticed any stuck or dead pixels. After using this phone for only 2 days I began to notice these. I could deal with it if there were just a few of them but this is crazy.
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Yes but if you get another phone there's no guarantee that there wont be more of less dead pixels. It's a crap shoot.

cac9478 said:
I had the note 2 since it's release date and with much lower PPI I never once noticed any stuck or dead pixels. After using this phone for only 2 days I began to notice these. I could deal with it if there were just a few of them but this is crazy.
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Do you think we all just deal with dead pixels and this is a completely normal thing?
Ok, well...see yaw layer. Lolololol.
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Just did a pixel test mine looks fine. You just had bad luck why don't you just exchange it
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cac9478 said:
Im switching to the S4, this is ridiculous.
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Looks like user error!
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Screw Getting it replaced.All HTC Ones have turned to s*** because 1 phone is loaded with dead pixels...You were looking for a reason to hate it to be honest with you.

I'm never buying a screen again! My girlfriend's parents' TV got dead pixels after using it, all of my phones get dead pixels in the shape of middle fingers, it's just offensive. I wish someone would invent a paper screen with ink... That way when it messed up I could change the page...
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Go get a iPhone. You belong with that group of chodes
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BrianBaker said:
Screw Getting it replaced.All HTC Ones have turned to s*** because 1 phone is loaded with dead pixels...You were looking for a reason to hate it to be honest with you.
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I know that most of you don't venture too far from xda, but if you did you would realize this problem is very widespread. One guy went through four of them at the store and found several dead pixels on every single one of them. To all of you that say your screen has none, look closer because I highly doubt that. HTC's biggest failure has always been quality control, and the One is no exception. I decided to give them a chance again after using Samsung phones for the past 3 years, and I have to say I'm extremely disappointed. I'm not going to waste my time swapping out phones over and over, when I could just exchange it for a phone company, that from my personal experience, doesn't exhibit such severe defects.

It's not widespread, I've got 2 HTC ones and both have zero dead pixels.
With a device there are millions of in the world you have to expect a few lemons . If you found 50 people with dead pixels on their LCD you're still not "widespread".
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I had a dead pixel on my first HTC one went and exchanged it no problem. I haven't had an issue with my phone ever since. I'm with every one else you are just looking for a reason to switch.
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Actually they look to be stuck on a color! there are programs you can run to fix that and if it persists i would exchange it. The S4 is NOT a better phone take a few to look at the reviews, lag , cheap quality etc just lets all calm down.

cac9478 said:
I know that most of you don't venture too far from xda, but if you did you would realize this problem is very widespread. One guy went through four of them at the store and found several dead pixels on every single one of them. To all of you that say your screen has none, look closer because I highly doubt that. HTC's biggest failure has always been quality control, and the One is no exception. I decided to give them a chance again after using Samsung phones for the past 3 years, and I have to say I'm extremely disappointed. I'm not going to waste my time swapping out phones over and over, when I could just exchange it for a phone company, that from my personal experience, doesn't exhibit such severe defects.
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You really don't get the concept of reporter bias, do you? The population of people who post on forums tend to be the most vocal in their complaints. HTC has sold millions of these phones, and you're going to claim "this problem is very widespread" based on a skewed sample? Please go take some statistics classes.
By that token, I shouldn't have gotten my Galaxy Nexus, my Nexus 10, my Nexus 7, my Transformer TF300T, my iPad 3, my Galaxy Tab 10.1, or my HP TouchPad. Or even my Galaxy Player 4.0.

Rirere said:
You really don't get the concept of reporter bias, do you? The population of people who post on forums tend to be the most vocal in their complaints. HTC has sold millions of these phones, and you're going to claim "this problem is very widespread" based on a skewed sample? Please go take some statistics classes.
By that token, I shouldn't have gotten my Galaxy Nexus, my Nexus 10, my Nexus 7, my Transformer TF300T, my iPad 3, my Galaxy Tab 10.1, or my HP TouchPad. Or even my Galaxy Player 4.0.
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Went to the Sprint store and with the manager went through 4 NIB HTC One's. All of them had at least 4 stuck pixels, the worst one had over 10. Had him grab me an S4, and as expected, not a single stuck or dead pixel. I, like many, thought the One was going to be the phone that would bring HTC back into the game, but unfortunately that is not the case. You all go ahead and keep defending your purchase, but I can guarantee if you look close enough there are some stuck pixels on your screen. I am now the proud owner of a new Samsung Galaxy S4, and while the speaker quality may not be as good, it's still better than a screen that looks like the Milky Way Galaxy. I don't need statistics classes to tell me the display on that phone is a POS.

Took me three tries to get an decent HTC one. And even then I had to settle with some gaps because I didn't want to risk dead pixels.
I agree with the quality control issues.
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cac9478 said:
Went to the Sprint store and with the manager went through 4 NIB HTC One's. All of them had at least 4 stuck pixels, the worst one had over 10. Had him grab me an S4, and as expected, not a single stuck or dead pixel. I, like many, thought the One was going to be the phone that would bring HTC back into the game, but unfortunately that is not the case. You all go ahead and keep defending your purchase, but I can guarantee if you look close enough there are some stuck pixels on your screen. I am now the proud owner of a new Samsung Galaxy S4, and while the speaker quality may not be as good, it's still better than a screen that looks like the Milky Way Galaxy. I don't need statistics classes to tell me the display on that phone is a POS.
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I'd say trolling, but you're really just a joke at this point. You can guarantee that my phone has issues? You've crossed from being an angry buyer to outright silly. Color cycling my screen shows no dead pixels. I've actually never had any dead pixels of any kind, on any device I've own-- maybe it's because I take care of my device?
It's comical how fast you run from accepted statistical practice. After all, if your evidence is terrible, why try to play the game with facts?

Rirere said:
I'd say trolling, but you're really just a joke at this point. You can guarantee that my phone has issues? You've crossed from being an angry buyer to outright silly. Color cycling my screen shows no dead pixels. I've actually never had any dead pixels of any kind, on any device I've own-- maybe it's because I take care of my device?
It's comical how fast you run from accepted statistical practice. After all, if your evidence is terrible, why try to play the game with facts?
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Grab yourself a magnifying class, you will be amazed by what you find!

Post benchmark tests here.

I did a bench mark using antutu and when I was buying this phone I could have went with the One X. But I didn't and now I'm glad.not only do I get better battery life but checkout the bench mark test.!
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Post your benchmarks here, let's see if anyone can do better.
By the way I did that with the default CPU governer with no over clock.
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That's about what i got with overclock too...15,8xx

hengsheng120 said:
That's about what i got with overclock too...15,8xx
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what did you overclock to?

Antutu gives a combined score. While our devices may score overall close to one x, nexus 4, and s3 it scores differently in categories. Basically htc first scores mediocre at cpu, ram and flash tests but makes up for it in graphics tests. Such comparison is inherently biased because it depends on how antutu weighs the separate tests. Bottom line is that you should not expect htc first to be better running anything that is not graphically intensive, meaning its not quite as good for everyday apps.
I do own a one x which I will be selling off soon. I like the ergonomics and form factor of the first much better and the lower performance does not bother me
Having diassembled htc first I do not recommend overclocking it. The board is very small (compared to others) and components are tightly packed so there is no adequate pcb surface area for heat dissipation. There is no heatsink and the plastic shell of the phone does not help dissipate heat. One mini will perhaps be better at that.
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r00tb33r said:
Antutu gives a combined score. While our devices may score overall close to one x, nexus 4, and s3 it scores differently in categories. Basically htc first scores mediocre at cpu, ram and flash tests but makes up for it in graphics tests. Such comparison is inherently biased because it depends on how antutu weighs the separate tests. Bottom line is that you should not expect htc first to be better running anything that is not graphically intensive, meaning its not quite as good for everyday apps.
I do own a one x which I will be selling off soon. I like the ergonomics and form factor of the first much better and the lower performance does not bother me
Having diassembled htc first I do not recommend overclocking it. The board is very small (compared to others) and components are tightly packed so there is no adequate pcb surface area for heat dissipation. There is no heatsink and the plastic shell of the phone does not help dissipate heat. One mini will perhaps be better at that.
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Yes I noticed brief and almost unoticablr lag in my launcher. And yes I know how antutu works. But each phone has its strengths you know.
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16001 with unalterded cpu clock settings (; just a few minor tweaks

21203? That's a custom test I believe with them all selected?
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21203? That's a custom test I believe with them all selected?
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Damn, pretty impressive. Do you have a standalone power amp connected to the phone along with 4 more external cores attached inside a refrigerator?

abrahammmmmmm_ said:
Damn, pretty impressive. Do you have a standalone power amp connected to the phone along with 4 more external cores attached inside a refrigerator?
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hahaha i wish. at one point i wanted to do that, buy a proccessor and physicaly replace my phones proc to a new one haha

russian392 said:
hahaha i wish. at one point i wanted to do that, buy a proccessor and physicaly replace my phones proc to a new one haha
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I've actually tried doing something like that to some extent. When 2 years ago when I tried adding a Samsung galaxy s 2 camera to my $200 prepaid 800mhz phone without a GPU lol I figured since they both used the same adaptors and the camera was a standalone hardware component it'd be easy even though the camera one the s2 was bigger I could just make a cut out on my cheap phone. But as many phone's specs & performance it was allot better on paper

abrahammmmmmm_ said:
I've actually tried doing something like that to some extent. When 2 years ago when I tried adding a Samsung galaxy s 2 camera to my $200 prepaid 800mhz phone without a GPU lol I figured since they both used the same adaptors and the camera was a standalone hardware component it'd be easy even though the camera one the s2 was bigger I could just make a cut out on my cheap phone. But as many phone's specs & performance it was allot better on paper
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i think the most probable thing to do with a phone as far as hardware modding would be either ram or rom expansion? cause those are standalone chipsets and components. while cpu is like welded (saudered) onto a other chip

Here you go. First vs One!
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russian392 said:
i think the most probable thing to do with a phone as far as hardware modding would be either ram or rom expansion? cause those are standalone chipsets and components. while cpu is like welded (saudered) onto a other chip
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No. Both RAM and onboard flash are soldered onto the board via BGA mounting on all current phones. Without a vacuum rig, a reflow oven and a bucketload of lucky paws you should just forget about it.

r00tb33r said:
No. Both RAM and onboard flash are soldered onto the board via BGA mounting on all current phones. Without a vacuum rig, a reflow oven and a bucketload of lucky paws you should just forget about it.
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Darn it. Why can't they make a smartphone at least "like" a PC. So that no matter what, you can install anything and change hardware. I think that's what that "block" phone or Lego phone did or what ever its called
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russian392 said:
Darn it. Why can't they make a smartphone at least "like" a PC. So that no matter what, you can install anything and change hardware. I think that's what that "block" phone or Lego phone did or what ever its called
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There are a couple concepts out right now in progress. The bigger one of the two is called Project Ara by Motorola. The other is called Phonebloks.
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ohthesepaws said:
There are a couple concepts out right now in progress. The bigger one of the two is called Project Ara by Motorola. The other is called Phonebloks.
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I know if project Ara but I feel as if we would have to say goodbye to developing if that suddenly took off

ohthesepaws said:
There are a couple concepts out right now in progress. The bigger one of the two is called Project Ara by Motorola. The other is called Phonebloks.
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Yep, phone blocks thats what i meant. cool consept, but will be quite hard to actualy make effective, i mean to make a phone 1. be durable using that system would be hard, it could just fall apart. 2. the screen is ONE piece, meaning how is that a block? 3. The blocks will be quite thick i think there for my htc first would be like what 11mm thick minimum? and so on.
GREAT concept though, nothing against it. Personally the best concept out there at the moment is the Jolla Sailfish phone.
EDIT. just looked up project ara, the whole idea of a modular phone is Feasible, but it wouldn't actually work. Reason? well, remember when android came out, and then about at the point of android 2.2 foyo with the droid X, the whole "android" thing was counted as a big joke. although by us tech geeks who are actually interested in how technology works, advances and so on, its easy, the better choice is the Droid X. But for 90 percent of people it was still the iphone, and still is for a big chunk of the world. what has happened is that apple stopped making a big deal out of the whole "android copied us" thing. So now, androids are still NOT appealing to people who are NOT interested in any way in technology, therefore number one choice would be an iPhone. now for us tech geeks, its easy to go and move on to project ara or phone blocks, cause we like doing that, getting something cooler and better and so on. But now that people have finally figured out android and its versions and manufacturers and have "settled down", for them to acquire more knowledge about processors and ram and cameras and screens and ppi and so on, is too much work (um...no more like 10 minutes worth of research on Google) but people will be to lazy to actually take interest cause its "too complicated" like all my fellow iphone lovers say. Seriously have you ever talked to a hardcore apple fan who has never even SEEN an android like the htc one let alone touched it and used it? YOU CANT talk to them, they just wont listen. no imagine telling them about phone blocks! they will say...cool...and thats it, they will be to lazy and to arrogant to drop what they have now and move on.
so will it work? um, maybe. it would be like Microsoft holding a few percent of marketshare. and as for popularity...once people get into "using their own heads"...they will give up. so it will work practicaly, but in the real world...it wont work WELL
well, all i can say is hail progress, technology, and android :/
But we will be able to have fun trying to see who can get the best benchmark score! hahaha

russian392 said:
Yep, phone blocks thats what i meant. cool consept, but will be quite hard to actualy make effective, i mean to make a phone 1. be durable using that system would be hard, it could just fall apart. 2. the screen is ONE piece, meaning how is that a block? 3. The blocks will be quite thick i think there for my htc first would be like what 11mm thick minimum? and so on.
GREAT concept though, nothing against it. Personally the best concept out there at the moment is the Jolla Sailfish phone.
EDIT. just looked up project ara, the whole idea of a modular phone is Feasible, but it wouldn't actually work. Reason? well, remember when android came out, and then about at the point of android 2.2 foyo with the droid X, the whole "android" thing was counted as a big joke. although by us tech geeks who are actually interested in how technology works, advances and so on, its easy, the better choice is the Droid X. But for 90 percent of people it was still the iphone, and still is for a big chunk of the world. what has happened is that apple stopped making a big deal out of the whole "android copied us" thing. So now, androids are still NOT appealing to people who are NOT interested in any way in technology, therefore number one choice would be an iPhone. now for us tech geeks, its easy to go and move on to project ara or phone blocks, cause we like doing that, getting something cooler and better and so on. But now that people have finally figured out android and its versions and manufacturers and have "settled down", for them to acquire more knowledge about processors and ram and cameras and screens and ppi and so on, is too much work (um...no more like 10 minutes worth of research on Google) but people will be to lazy to actually take interest cause its "too complicated" like all my fellow iphone lovers say. Seriously have you ever talked to a hardcore apple fan who has never even SEEN an android like the htc one let alone touched it and used it? YOU CANT talk to them, they just wont listen. no imagine telling them about phone blocks! they will say...cool...and thats it, they will be to lazy and to arrogant to drop what they have now and move on.
so will it work? um, maybe. it would be like Microsoft holding a few percent of marketshare. and as for popularity...once people get into "using their own heads"...they will give up. so it will work practicaly, but in the real world...it wont work WELL
well, all i can say is hail progress, technology, and android :/
But we will be able to have fun trying to see who can get the best benchmark score! hahaha
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Quick point, Android currently has most of the market share. I believe it's 52%? While apple is at like 25?
Ara is closer to completion, though this is only the first version. Also remember Google owns Motorola lol.
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ohthesepaws said:
Quick point, Android currently has most of the market share. I believe it's 52%? While apple is at like 25?
Ara is closer to completion, though this is only the first version. Also remember Google owns Motorola lol.
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last time i check its 73%

So, I traded my Note 4...

For an iPhone 6 Plus...
Someone please..shoot me

bad mistake i went the other way you have gone to the dark side.

The Black Droid said:
For an iPhone 6 Plus...
Someone please..shoot me
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you will be back after your iphone goes all floppy and bends.

Ironically, the first app I tried to download on it was the XDA premium app...I just sat there for a second when it was nowhere to be found..

The Black Droid said:
Ironically, the first app I tried to download on it was the XDA premium app...I just sat there for a second when it was nowhere to be found..
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You should try downloading the #bendgate app.It will make your iPhone more fabulous.

As first, my deep condolences.
Second,what is purpose of this thread ?
iCrap does not belong here so consider to join some iCrap community.

The Black Droid said:
Ironically, the first app I tried to download on it was the XDA premium app...I just sat there for a second when it was nowhere to be found..
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That's coincidental, not irony.... But if Alanis Morissette got it wrong, you can't blame others for doing same.
Besides use Tapatalk instead. It actually works better on the iPhone 6+ than Note 4 (you see more content/posts on it).
I have both the 6+ & Note 4 (and a moto x 2014) and contrary to popular belief the two can co-exist very happily - both great phones. My app usage is near identical between them too.
Both have great screens and great battery life. And after 5 months use, neither my Note 4 has a gap gate issue or iPhone 6+ bend gate issue....
I don't understand why some in android or apple communities get so insecure about these things. Just enjoy whatever device you are using.
That being said I'm not sure why your post is entirely relevant here and will inevitably stir up a hornets nest.

I must admit I have thought about it while sitting here waiting for lollipop. Considered the Nexus 6 as well, but at the end of the day this Note can do things that none of the competition can. The pen mostly but the removable battery and sd card are also nice. 6+ would be ok if I got the 128gb version but here in New Zealand a 32gb Nexus 6 costs the same as a note 4 so it's a total no brainer, lollipop or not.

The Black Droid said:
For an iPhone 6 Plus...
Someone please..shoot me
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why? Just interested...

I actually had the same thought, because I admire the beauty of the iPhone. But after taking a look I realized that they wanted me to pay extra cash for the exchange which is ridiculous since they get a better phone from me then I get from them.. But I might trade phones, just to try out the 6+ someday..

Im waiting for "IPhone 17 plus +" until then I stick with Note series.
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I actually think it's not a bad idea at all. I've been with Andorid since the start and never had an Iphone, but there's tons of apps that have better support on iOS/apps that are not on Android at all. anyway..why not change once in awhile and try new things right? maybe i'll do it with my next phone

I made complete research, and just for change of taste, i went to buy an iphone 6+, got it booked here in Pakistan. but ended up buying a Note 4, and my first 2-3 days were of full depression because of battery drains but now its all fine. the only regret i have is the sound quality i was having with htc one m8 before, otherwise note4 is soooo awesome <3

After just one day with it, I quite content with it. Seems to be pretty solid...so far.

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Even that regular coffee for $4 is overpriced. You can get a refusal coffee at Starbucks for $2.50.
Sorry had to point that out. Lol
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The fact that you can't use NFC (no secure token such as yubikey) for anything other than ApplePay, or that you can't use openvpn or PGP on an iPhone makes it an unsuitable/undesirable device for me. I hate how you can only run software endorsed by Apple on a device you paid for.

mathieulh said:
The fact that you can't use NFC (no secure token such as yubikey) for anything other than ApplePay, or that you can't use openvpn or PGP on an iPhone makes it an unsuitable/undesirable device for me. I hate how you can only run software endorsed by Apple on a device you paid for.
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Agree but that's how they maintain the pubic perception that their platform is stable, secure and reliable. In reality it's no better that a high end Android these days, it's just that it's much easier for Android users to completely bork their phone by installing badly built apps.
Also iOS is easier to develop for, so long as you're compatible with the latest iOS you don't really need to worry about much else. Android is completely different. People could be running your app on anything from gingerbread to lollipop, have from a 1ghz single core cpu to a quad/octa core monster, 512mb to 3gb ram, 600x800 up to 1440x2560 screen res, etc etc.
In other words I couldn't give a **** for iOS, but the app ecosystem is kind of tempting.

nookcoloruser said:
That's coincidental, not irony.... But if Alanis Morissette got it wrong, you can't blame others for doing same.
Besides use Tapatalk instead. It actually works better on the iPhone 6+ than Note 4 (you see more content/posts on it).
I have both the 6+ & Note 4 (and a moto x 2014) and contrary to popular belief the two can co-exist very happily - both great phones. My app usage is near identical between them too.
Both have great screens and great battery life. And after 5 months use, neither my Note 4 has a gap gate issue or iPhone 6+ bend gate issue....
I don't understand why some in android or apple communities get so insecure about these things. Just enjoy whatever device you are using.
That being said I'm not sure why your post is entirely relevant here and will inevitably stir up a hornets nest.
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So much of this. I have both the devices too, along with a nexus 6 and i really don't understand the hate on both sides. Plus as others have already said the topic is irrelevant on this forum. There is such a thing as discretion of posting.
That said to the OP, iPhone 6 plus is a fine device. Enjoy the great apps, a great consistent camera and great battery life.

nookcoloruser said:
That's coincidental, not irony.... But if Alanis Morissette got it wrong, you can't blame others for doing same.
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Can you elaborate on this? While your statement holds partial truth, it was also ironic that I tried to download a well-known android app on my iPhone. Never, EVER make me feel like I wasted money on an education again!