I just read this article on Gizmodo.... I am curious to get the XDA peeps opinion.
Google Has Killed Android (the Brand)
http://gizmodo.com/5986229/
Not a big deal to me. just bring on key lime pie.
Many people already call them "Google Phone" so yeah...
Non sense...
Only one qn..do u want a good os or keep up the brand name ??
Btw android was nothing till google came into picture.. nobody even knew there was such a thing..if somebody make that this public better appreciate them..
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anuseb89 said:
Non sense...
Only one qn..do u want a good os or keep up the brand name ??
Btw android was nothing till google came into picture.. nobody even knew there was such a thing..if somebody make that this public better appreciate them..
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Exactly who cares what they call it
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I personally can care less BUT I do get annoyed when people call them Droids.
Yeah, don't care what they call it. Google phone sounds ok to me.
Nothing but clickbait
A incompetent writer wrote a sensationalist article with a sensationalist title to get more clicks. Just look at his older articles.
Who would have thunk?
edit: A "more" correct title will be "Google kills Android as a brand name".
Was that written by a 7th grader?
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Jess813 said:
I personally can care less BUT I do get annoyed when people call them Droids.
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I do too, but that's because 'Droids" are verizon-rebranded and they are historically gigantic piles of crap. I feel like comparing my nexus 4 to any phone verizon has called a droid is just an outright insult, honestly.
On the flipside, though, if a phone runs android or any android distro I use the blanket android term, similarly to how I use the term linux box for any pc running any linux distro
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Was that written by a 7th grader?
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Apparently it's by an "CEO".
More blog noise.
What a non-story that is.
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I was under the impression that they were killing the OS...
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I was under the impression that they were killing the OS...
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Me also lol
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That was easily one of the stupidest things I've ever read
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woody296 said:
Not a big deal to me. just bring on key lime pie.
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Mmmm PiE
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Google Has Killed Android (the Brand)[
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You kind of have to look at Google's motives for Android in the first place. They saw the importance of the future of mobile and that iOS was in the process of owning it. They launched Android primarily to protect their advertising sales business and then started monetizing content sales through Play. So if their motivation is advertising and content sales what difference does it make whose name is on the physical device or if people know their device is "Android?" I'm sure they aren't pleased with the forking taking place (Amazon) or the overlays being added that F-up the update process (100MM Galaxy's sold) but at the end of the day their well positioned in mobile and raking in tons of profit from mobile advertising and content sales. Google makes the same in those categories whether the masses buy a “Galaxy,” “HTC Sense,” or a Nexus where Android’s still fairly prominent.
“Galaxy” now leads “Android” as a smartphone search term which kind of tells you what volume and marketing does for consumer brand awareness. Samsung Electronics spent $12B in marketing and promotion in 2012. HTC’s market capitalization (the value of the entire company) is only $8B. That amount of marketing spend buys you a lot of aided and unaided brand awareness.
"Samsung ‘Galaxy' has become a more popular search term than Android for web users searching for information about Android-powered smartphones, highlighting many handset makers' fears that Samsung is becoming bigger than the other Android manufacturers and that the smartphone market is slowly becoming a two-handset, rather than an operating systems, race."
http://www.hindustantimes.com/techn...s-Galaxy-not-Android/SP-Article1-1009843.aspx
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You kind of have to look at Google's motives for Android in the first place. They saw the importance of the future of mobile and that iOS was in the process of owning it. They launched Android primarily to protect their advertising sales business and then started monetizing content sales through Play. So if their motivation is advertising and content sales what difference does it make whose name is on the physical device or if people know their device is "Android?" I'm sure they aren't pleased with the forking taking place (Amazon) or the overlays being added that F-up the update process (100MM Galaxy's sold) but at the end of the day their well positioned in mobile and raking in tons of profit from mobile advertising and content sales. Google makes the same in those categories whether the masses buy a “Galaxy,” “HTC Sense,” or a Nexus where Android’s still fairly prominent.
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You need to look at this long term. Samsung definitely has the ambitions to become a new apple, i.e. build "their own ecosystem". OS (Tizen), advertising, app store etc etc.
As they already have hooked enough of users on their brand/touch wiz, next step will be to release tizen and make sure there is a certain mass of critical apps and after this samsung can start migrating users over.
Users don't give a damn if it is android/qnx/tizen/firefox os or whatever. As long as it looks the same and feels the same. Which what touchwiz is for.
So I guess el goog will need to do something if it is already not too late. Sadly the motorola is not the solution.
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Sheesh! Google has a history that is completely obscure to the general public. Apple says Android's Rubin worked for them in the '90s. APIs are a product of Apple, according to what they are saying.
http://gizmodo.com/5837045/apple-claims-android-started-with-them
Possibly more smoke from Apple. Why bring this up now? Hopefully the judge is knowledgeable enough to sift thru what is real or not. Judge is a judge and not an engineer, so I doubt he's written code before. I myself don't know enough about APIs in question to comment this.
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Another thing. The CEO of Google held a seat on Apple Board of Directors for a long time.
So, I drink Pepsi and Coke. Off brands sometimes too.
Lol whats next? They really want to shut android down
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Apple seems really desperate at this point to try to put a road block on Androids success.
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rooting for apple as it will just open up the market for wp7
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Possibly more smoke from Apple. Why bring this up now?
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Apple is desperate. Their attempts to litigate Android products from the market are not working. So even if it probably really is just smoke and PR maneuvers with nothing substantial behind it, in their desperation Apple will do anything.
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Another thing. The CEO of Google held a seat on Apple Board of Directors for a long time.
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Yeah, and? Are you accusing him of corporate espionage?
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rooting for apple as it will just open up the market for wp7
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Nice try on stirring up the pot. WP7 is nothing, will never be anything. Look at how terrible it is doing in this market. Apple and Google will continue to claw it out in phone sales while Microsoft sits on the sidelines. None of the general public goes into a best buy or at&t looking for a WP7, nor will they walk out with one. They want a cool looking OS and phone and some variety to choose from. Not some bleak tiles invented by a first grade class.
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Yeah, and? Are you accusing him of corporate espionage?
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You didn't quote my whole statement.
Its obviously desperate times at Apple. Especially if there really is no iPhone 5. OR especially if there is a iPhone 5 but it looks like a GSII.
Apple must be really going down hill.
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why apple always sue every they competitor?? they're can't make more innovation ??
This happens with Steve Jobs .
Tim Cook never made a difference .
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Google! wins ya
Remember Skynet? Google's eating the world, a little bit at a time.
I think Apple will burn out and fade away, because Android's main target is us: the open-sourced, geeky, "I NEED TO MODIFY AND LIBERATE MY SMARTPHONE" community. Now, dish that out versus the aesthetically perfect society over at Apple. Yes, they have a lot of apps. So do we. I can see it on the breaking news:
"Google buys Apple's R&D mobile department"
"WhatsApp, Inc. starts negotiations with search giant Google"
"Nokia is taken aboard by Google"
When that happens, (without going off-topic and trying to prove my point), Google will dominate and Android will be everything we'll see.
But, anything might happen, who I am to know?
PS: Ironically, Android's builds are named after desserts.
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PS: Ironically, Android's builds are named after desserts.
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Wich is the main reason I use it.. Who doesnt love dessert?
Apple is trying to buy them self some time, they have wasted alot of hours making lawsuits against every other competitor... Wich leaves them behind
And I would like to see an iPhone with android, Google join in to say, U mad bro?
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Remember Skynet? Google's eating the world, a little bit at a time.
I think Apple will burn out and fade away, because Android's main target is us: the open-sourced, geeky, "I NEED TO MODIFY AND LIBERATE MY SMARTPHONE" community. Now, dish that out versus the aesthetically perfect society over at Apple. Yes, they have a lot of apps. So do we. I can see it on the breaking news:
"Google buys Apple's R&D mobile department"
"WhatsApp, Inc. starts negotiations with search giant Google"
"Nokia is taken aboard by Google"
When that happens, (without going off-topic and trying to prove my point), Google will dominate and Android will be everything we'll see.
But, anything might happen, who I am to know?
PS: Ironically, Android's builds are named after desserts.
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Skynet actually exists though, it's currently under British military control.
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Wich is the main reason I use it.. Who doesnt love dessert?
Apple is trying to buy them self some time, they have wasted alot of hours making lawsuits against every other competitor... Wich leaves them behind
And I would like to see an iPhone with android, Google join in to say, U mad bro?
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Now that would be sweet! A fantastic thing, for sure. The goodness of Android mixed with the superior hardware and build quality of Apple.
Even more than that, let Apple adopt Android and finesse and smooth it out to their higher standards. What an overwhelming affair.
Sorry, but what superior hardware and quality? Don't drink the kool aid.
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Possibly more smoke from Apple. Why bring this up now?
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Bring it up now after Google bought Motorolla so now they have their own phone brand with nothing useful to put on it. Just a thought.
google all day!!!!!!!!!!!
What do you guys think about this?
I will spend my last dying breath if I need to, and I will spend every penny of Apple's $40 billion in the bank, to right this wrong. I'm going to destroy Android, because it's a stolen product. I'm willing to go thermonuclear war on this.Steve JobsApple
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Here's the link to read more.
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What do you guys think about this?
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I think it's off topic for the general section of the Samsung Galaxy S II forum.
Just to think of it.. He also copied the mouse (i think) and so called innovated it.. Psss
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I think it's off topic for the general section of the Samsung Galaxy S II forum.
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I think it relates because it is between iOS and Android w/c is the OS of SGS2 and i want the opinions of my fellow SGS2 users.. But if the mods want to move this they can freely do so..
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What do you guys think about this?
Here's the link to read more.
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I thank god I'm not an Apple sheep . I hear Apple's iOS 5 has a brand new pull down notification bar.. And Android's supposedly copying Apple? Lol it's just a good laugh in my opinion
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I thank god I'm not an Apple sheep . I hear Apple's iOS 5 has a brand new pull down notification bar.. And Android's supposedly copying Apple? Lol it's just a good laugh in my opinion
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Yeah, now it's time for android to sue apple.. No words can explain how angry i was when i read about this article..
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that is pathetic -.-
Its just simple business, destroy the competition before they grow even stronger. This extends itself beyond phones to ipads, tablets and anything that competes with Apple.
After all Google acquired the developer of Android in 2005 and it was listed as distributed in 2007. Only until recently have Apple became very agressive in terms of suing and other lawsuits etc. Why? Because he realised just how much of a threat Android has become.
Windows could copy him, he woudnt have cared less but after all, last quarter of 2010 Android was listed as the best selling platform with over 190million Android devices to date.
Only makes sense for Apple to want to curb this growth although the reality is those who loves Apple products will never learn. They could release an iphone 5 with next to no new features and people will still go crazy and line up for days to buy it. They cant do any wrong but those Apple fans should be thanking the healthy competition Android provides because its due this competition that both platforms have lifted their game to out do eachother. SG2 is only as good as it is so it can sell agressively, its the only way potential Iphone owners will consider swapping and due to Android phones like this, Iphone have to provide more features to continue growing instead of crap like Iphone 4s which really is a pathetic upgrade (well not for Apple given how limited the Iphone 4 was) but in reality the features it offers is what many Android phones (LG, Motorolla, HTC, Samsung) have offered for a while.
Either way i dont mind Apple being popular, it forces Android phones to be even better so consumers win either way
I love android but He was good man
I think it's actually quite sad and pathetic the obsession he buiilt up about destroying Android, never mind fairytales about stealing it was all in his mind, he thought he was the main man and Apple were THE most advanced when it came to technology but couldn't hack it when Android came in and pulled the carpet from under him and Apple so decided to cry foul and accuse them of all sorts and issue patent after patent, that doesn't sound to me like a "technology genius" rather a bitter man who simply couldn't accept Apple were being brushed aside by Android.
Anyway this is probably for the general forum.
Just my two cents anyway.
I think he won't succeed.
Who cares what Steve MOD EDIT Jobs said, he was just a glorified marketing man. Apple is rotten to its core - a bit like Jobs now.
I think Larry Ellison will destroy Android for him.
I think that, without Steve Jobs, we wouldn't have these fancy android phones. There wouldn't be a dual-core 1.2ghz phone running an extremely customizable O.S without Apple creating the iPhone. But now there is.
Its called innovation. Company 1 makes a product that sells well. Company 2 "copies" them and creates a different and/or better product. Company 1 then releases an upgrade and tries to beat. Company 2's product. Its never ending and allows for products to improve at an extremely fast rate. That is, until company 1 sues everyone who improved upon their product and is now outselling them!
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How? Unless he has an ipad and a router in his box...
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Was surprise in Steve's book about the bit on Gorilla glass. Was invented in the 60s but Corning couldn't find a use for it. The original iphone was suppose to have a plastic screen but Steve wanted it with glass instead. So his friend suggested he talk to Corning about it.
Corning haven't been making this stuff and Apple wanted this stuff in 6 months for the launch. They converted an lcd plant and got their best people to make the glass.
Apple should have taken out an exclusive license on it. Who knows maybe Steve thinks Andriod stole the glass too.
Android Central posted a good article on this subject: http://tinyurl.com/6l5ps8z
And regarding slide to unlock, it's like ford getting a patent on car doors.
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Is this news to you?
Apple does not like competition. That's nothing new.
He was only afraid because Android got so extremely popular by being the direct opposite of iOS. Open-source and not restrictive.
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What do you guys think about this?
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I think that thread name is wrong... It should say "Steve Jobs WANTED to destroy Android"
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How? Unless he has an ipad and a router in his box...
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That is no use to him, as he always thinks out of the box.
http://m.gizmodo.com/5853398/apple-now-owns-the-unlock-slide-gesture
Go to hell Apple. Apple now owns the patent to any "predefined gesture used to unlock". If your doing anything with a left to right gesture. Expect the Apple Gestapo to sue your sawks off.
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Lol
via EVO.
They just keep trying to take hits on android. It's getting old
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Obviously this has been a 'patent' in the making otherwise I'd assume some other company woulda taken it?
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Obviously this has been a 'patent' in the making otherwise I'd assume some other company woulda taken it?
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The original patent was submitted back in 2005. And Apple was just now granted it.
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LMAO they are pathetic.
Apple is becoming a dictatorship.
I think they should patent the strategy of suing the crap out of people to try and get what they want instead of innovation.
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The original patent was submitted back in 2005. And Apple was just now granted it.
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Ah. Well at least they produced a working product using it unlike various patent trolls. If they submitted. It that far back I have no issue with it. It's also a major factor in their lock screen notification system.
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Ah. Well at least they produced a working product using it unlike various patent trolls. If they submitted. It that far back I have no issue with it. It's also a major factor in their lock screen notification system.
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Kinda like the same notification they ripped off of android right?
patent this:
The letter S, A, M, U, N, G
(Samsung, another S not included because there's already an S)
and this:
patent the English, Spanish, and Mandarin language.
f*ck off, Apple
Well in one of the many many Steve job biographys out there he was quoted as saying " I dispise android. I really do. Having them run out of the mobile market is just not enough. I want them destroyed. I want them to have no existance on this planet. I (Steve Jobs) will spend every penny in Apples bank, and every resource in my power to make sure it happens.".
I'm at work I will find the proper links and citations later .
Later on he was also quoted as saying " Why should some one (Android) be getting fame and money off of a stolen OS, with stolen features? It makes no sense to me as to why so many people love and adore such a dishonest company."
When I read that I was left speechless. Talk about Hippocrates.
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What if we have a lock just like S2U that goes the opposite way or upward..
Fuc*ing apple
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Well in one of the many many Steve job biographys out there he was quoted as saying " I dispise android. I really do. Having them run out of the mobile market is just not enough. I want them destroyed. I want them to have no existance on this planet. I (Steve Jobs) will spend every penny in Apples bank, and every resource in my power to make sure it happens.".
I'm at work I will find the proper links and citations later .
Later on he was also quoted as saying " Why should some one (Android) be getting fame and money off of a stolen OS, with stolen features? It makes no sense to me as to why so many people love and adore such a dishonest company."
When I read that I was left speechless. Talk about Hippocrates.
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Stolen OS?! Aren't Macs just linux computers with apple branding all over?
if New then
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmvCpR45LKA&feature=youtube_gdata_player
So if you cruise over to phandroid you will find this article that states that Google lost their appeal to lift the ban on the sale of the Galaxy Nexus due to Google Now infringement on Apple patents. Notably, the patent on voice search for phone applications a la Siri. The article states Google will be rolling out an update that will limit Google Now voice searches to web related content only. What a farce! Since this is a core Jellybean feature, I'm speculating that this will affect the Nexus 7 as well.
Will these patent infringement tactics from Apple ever end?
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Link please?
http://phandroid.com/2012/07/03/gal...samsung-and-google-working-on-software-patch/
http://www.theverge.com/2012/7/3/3136102/google-samsung-software-update-galaxy-nexus-infringement
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http://phandroid.com/2012/07/03/gal...samsung-and-google-working-on-software-patch/
http://www.theverge.com/2012/7/3/3136102/google-samsung-software-update-galaxy-nexus-infringement
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Confused, didn't Apple file this suit before Jelly Bean was even announced? How can it block google Now? Are you sure?
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Confused, didn't Apple file this suit before Jelly Bean was even announced? How can it block google Now? Are you sure?
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Oh, but it only prevents Google now from pulling from contacts and apps. So apparently, you won't be able to say Call Suzy. Or text Mary. Or play music.
Hopefully will still be able to say Open Phone
And the cards are still there (for weather sports traffic etc)
And you know Devs will bring the functionality back so no worries ( I already have the full Google now sans voice search and it is pretty neat.
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Much of the infringement spat has related to Android's use of a unified search interface, but according to Google the standout feature of Android 4.1 — Google Now — will be safe when 4.1 arrives for the general public. "This just relates to the Galaxy Nexus," the spokesperson told us, "and not a product on the Galaxy Nexus."
Well it was actually Apple and Samsung in the lawsuit and its not banned yet Apple still has to pay close 100 million dollars for damages that Samsung might face for lost sales if Apple actually loses the case. There is no ruling that the Galaxy Nexus does violate Apples Patents just that it might and Apple wants the sales stopped until a ruling has been made. The Patch is Googles oh $#!7 button just in case it does get banned, to prevent loss of sales during the no doubt long and drawn out court process to come if Apple does Dish out the money.
I feel like Apple will back down and not dish out the 100 million though, because if the push that button its only a matter of time before one of these companies pulls a patent of there own that can get the iProduct line banned too. The US software patent system is pretty messed up right now.
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I feel like Apple will back down and not dish out the 100 million though, because if the push that button its only a matter of time before one of these companies pulls a patent of there own that can get the iProduct line banned too. The US software patent system is pretty messed up right now.
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Apple has already paid the 95 million dollars for the bond. The injuction is officially in effect. http://www.theverge.com/2012/7/3/3136023/samsung-request-stay-galaxy-nexus-injunction-denied-Apple
If you go to the google play store, you can no longer order the Galaxy Nexus, atleast until further notice.
F me. I just ordered two nexus 7s and was planning on ordering a gnex tomorrow. Hope this doesn't affect the local search as android had that before with the vlingo powered search aka svoice for siii even....
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This Patented VS Opensource Software is a real mess. The problem is the Nature of Opensource make it hard to log exact dates and who owns the rights, and the patent office is sure as hell not going to check all the opensource software before issuing a patent.
Hell Even the GNU guy thinks the Linux guy stole his stuff and didn't give him credit, or rather that programmers unknowingly integrated the two. Though He just seem more upset he didn't create working kernel first and isn't getting the credit he's due.
Anyway this brings up a question, how is Opensource software log and dated in case a company like Apple does file a penitent for something that is previously opensource, and how does one prove it pre-existed the patent?
And check out this video from 1994
F*** apple. Why can't they just use their money to create better products instead of suing everybody else? Just my two cents...
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F*** apple. Why can't they just use their money to create better products instead of suing everybody else? Just my two cents...
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$95+ million for some hurt feelings. Society is disgusting. Apple is a money making and wasting cult. This country is broke and these guys are feuding over patents. Unbelievable.
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Oh, wait. Samsung are selling more devices than us? Lets get them sued instead!"
I have faith in the people on this forum that something will be worked out to re-enable this.
And I really hope that thing involves putting '#boycottApple=True" in a configuration file somewhere.
From the context of the article it seems like it will only affect the Galaxy Nexus. I hope it doesn't get pushed to our tablets as well. I'm sure our devs could find a way around it but the thing is they shouldn't have to because Apple is throwing a hissy fit.
If Apple spent as much time actually working on competing with Android instead of attempting to kill it (which will never happen) then they might actually innovate or invent something new for once. I'm so annoyed at how broken the patent system is when it comes to software.
Anyone have any further evidence or at least what they think will happen when it comes to the Nexus 7 and this ordeal? Will we also get stripped of functionality?
Doesn't affect the Nexus 7 or Google Now. But you can no longer use the search button to search apps on your phone. Because for some reason you can patent that.
Edit- stupid spelling errors!
How STUPID. Well The late Steve Jobs said he was ready to use every dime apple had to destroy Google. I guess his legacy lives on.
Seems like dumb thing to be able to patent.
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Doesn't effect the Nexus 7 or Google Now. But you can no longer use the search button to search apps on your phone. Because for some reason you can patent that.
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Yeah er..
I don't think this has anything to do with googre nao, but the default search.
Although you can bet that they'll try to go after that next.
Personally I expect the ban to lifted on appeal anyway. If it doesn't then this will se t a worrying precedent in the US courts and could open the floodgates to dozens of these petty cases.
From what I understand this change shouldn't effect the functionality of Google Now as the dispute is focused on the Galaxy Nexus product NOT the android system itself.
Some guy on Phandroid suggested everyone should call Apple customer support at the same time and ask why they can't order a Galaxy Nexus. I'm normally against actions like that, but the lack of an Apple twitter to vent frustration on is killing me.
I wanna see how this turns out.
I guess its good its now 'legal' to unlock our phones but not the tablets?
Congress making laws of nothing they know about... sounds sorta familiar..
How will this effect the xda community if at all?
Under cover cops trolling xda? haha
How will it even be enforced?
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...ed-phone-unlocks-will-be-a-thing-of-the-past/
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Reading that made my brain hurt and one more reason to add to my mile long list I made a while back of why I will never buy anything but a Nexus again. (The Galaxy Tab was my last foray into getting robbed)
Yeah, good luck with them catching anyone unlocking their tablets unless they are on a data plan.
And since I can make phone calls with my N7, is it technically a phone????
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Good luck policing this one unless they start shipping them from the factory unable to unlock. Seriously these lawmakers can go eat a d1ck, all this bs they are doing is just in the name of money.
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Also wtf, " For example, an ebook reading device might be considered a “tablet,” as might a handheld video game device or a laptop computer." Can you be more broad when it comes to description? I guess you can't because then you would be Apple. :silly:
If a tablet has a 3g modem is it a phone then or a tablet? Have fun trying to classify these things, especially when tablets are just blown up phones with or without the modem. Our government is morons.
Google allows the unlocking of their devices, so you have nothing to worry about as long as you buy nexus. Even if you don't buy a nexus device, I don't see how the law could be properly enforced. I wouldn't worry.
I'll do what I want.
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JohnnyHempseed said:
Google allows the unlocking of their devices, so you have nothing to worry about as long as you buy nexus. Even if you don't but a nexus device, I don't see how the law could be properly enforced. I wouldn't worry.
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doesn't even have to be a nexus device, any android device is safe since it's open source from Google.
Plus unlike Apple, don't see Google suing anyone for unlocking or rooting their os.
Google allows us to unlock...pretty darn easily actually.
What's gonna happen when root methods are provided outside the US?
IMO the whole thing is stupid. I have paid for ALL my apps, and I refuse to use ANY Android device without root access. So why am I being punished?
I HATE ADS, and have no problem paying for apps to not have ads. However if a paid version isn't available, then I still want my ads blocked...
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dilldoe said:
doesn't even have to be a nexus device, any android device is safe since it's open source from Google.
Plus unlike Apple, don't see Google suing anyone for unlocking or rooting their os.
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Google encourages us to play with at least their nexus devices. That was the entire point of having the USB port on the Nexus Q.
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So many bigger issues Congress needs to be worried about than what people are doing with their electronic devices.
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So iphones are allowed to be jailbroken and the main reason users jailbrake them is so they can use pirate apps. Yep this makes sense.....
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Much ado about nothing.
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ccrows said:
What's gonna happen when root methods are provided outside the US?
IMO the whole thing is stupid. I have paid for ALL my apps, and I refuse to use ANY Android device without root access. So why am I being punished?
I HATE ADS, and have no problem paying for apps to not have ads. However if a paid version isn't available, then I still want my ads blocked...
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What about apps by developers from countries that don't have the luck to be included in the merchant account list? Their only way to monetize their hard work is ads and using their apps with ads blockers is not fair at all. If you hate ads that much, please stop using the apps that are supported by them.
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ccrows said:
What's gonna happen when root methods are provided outside the US?
IMO the whole thing is stupid. I have paid for ALL my apps, and I refuse to use ANY Android device without root access. So why am I being punished?
I HATE ADS, and have no problem paying for apps to not have ads. However if a paid version isn't available, then I still want my ads blocked...
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I agree with this.
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dparrothead1 said:
Yeah, good luck with them catching anyone unlocking their tablets unless they are on a data plan.
And since I can make phone calls with my N7, is it technically a phone????
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Yeah, since my Nexus 7 is wifi only, how does unlocking it violate carrier rights? It's not a phone, it's a wifi tablet. Unlocking and rooting gives me access to all the hardware and features of the software, which I have rights to as the licensee. If they don't want you to have access to the full ability of the OS, they should remove it. If it's there, then it's mine to use per the license.
icytrey said:
So many bigger issues Congress needs to be worried about than what people are doing with their electronic devices.
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Once those in power are ready to take over the world, they'll need more than just gun control laws to round up the masses for reeducation. Phone and tab modification should give them the reason to round up several more million citizens for reeducation.
Worry when the next Android release is called "Soma".
Now were did I place my tinfoil hat again?....
murray68w said:
I guess its good its now 'legal' to unlock our phones but not the tablets?
Congress making laws of nothing they know about... sounds sorta familiar..
How will this effect the xda community if at all?
Under cover cops trolling xda? haha
How will it even be enforced?
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...ed-phone-unlocks-will-be-a-thing-of-the-past/
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I read thru all the below comments.. This new law does not make it legal to unlock your device. It puts the control into the hands of your devices carrier as to rather you can unlock it or not. Now the carriers all just need to do like at&t has been firm on.Just say NO unlocked devices allowed on there Network.. This is a step back word in my opinion. I hear about people all the time jail breaking there i phone or ipad to side load pirated apps. They say i tunes charge to much for them. But the android community STRONGLY screams to everyone to pay the developers for the apps. Android apps are reasonable priced as well. This is due to the developer having more control and giving less money to google.. I think this will be the way into the future.To make devices and phones even more disposable.. I so hope google stands up and puts this crap away.
If xda follows this new law. They will have to take down every hack for every tablet and get permission from phone carriers to post the ability to unlock and root phones on there networks.. NEXUS Phones tied to a carrier follows the same laws .
if i read incorrectly please explain to me..
erica_renee said:
I read thru all the below comments.. This new law does not make it legal to unlock your device. It puts the control into the hands of your devices carrier as to rather you can unlock it or not. Now the carriers all just need to do like at&t has been firm on.Just say NO unlocked devices allowed on there Network.. This is a step back word in my opinion. I hear about people all the time jail breaking there i phone or ipad to side load pirated apps. They say i tunes charge to much for them. But the android community STRONGLY screams to everyone to pay the developers for the apps. Android apps are reasonable priced as well. This is due to the developer having more control and giving less money to google.. I think this will be the way into the future.To make devices and phones even more disposable.. I so hope google stands up and puts this crap away.
If xda follows this new law. They will have to take down every hack for every tablet and get permission from phone carriers to post the ability to unlock and root phones on there networks.. NEXUS Phones tied to a carrier follows the same laws .
if i read incorrectly please explain to me..
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Not quite correct. This just means that carrier unlocking is no longer exempted from the DMCA. In other words, OEMs can sue folks that post a narrow scope of exploits. This pretty much is a moot point considering that the only OEM that was doing this was Apple and the Jesus Phone is no longer exclusive to big blue. As there never was an exemption specific to tablets, nothing there has changed. DMCA exemptions are reviewed and revised every three years.
There's a lot of hystronics and FUD going on about this, driven partly by a desire to generate traffic to certain sites I'm sure. In the end, it is just as I said before... much ado about nothing. The sky is not any closer to falling than it was twelve months ago.
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najaboy said:
Not quite correct. This just means that carrier unlocking is no longer exempted from the DMCA. In other words, OEMs can sue folks that post a narrow scope of exploits. This pretty much is a moot point considering that the only OEM that was doing this was Apple and the Jesus Phone is no longer exclusive to big blue. As there never was an exemption specific to tablets, nothing there has changed. DMCA exemptions are reviewed and revised every three years.
There's a lot of hystronics and FUD going on about this, driven partly by a desire to generate traffic to certain sites I'm sure. In the end, it is just as I said before... much ado about nothing. The sky is not any closer to falling than it was twelve months ago.
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Amen to that. The panic in threads like this...along with the unfounded rage... is astounding.