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Apple vs. Google

Sheesh! Google has a history that is completely obscure to the general public. Apple says Android's Rubin worked for them in the '90s. APIs are a product of Apple, according to what they are saying.
http://gizmodo.com/5837045/apple-claims-android-started-with-them

Possibly more smoke from Apple. Why bring this up now? Hopefully the judge is knowledgeable enough to sift thru what is real or not. Judge is a judge and not an engineer, so I doubt he's written code before. I myself don't know enough about APIs in question to comment this.
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Another thing. The CEO of Google held a seat on Apple Board of Directors for a long time.
So, I drink Pepsi and Coke. Off brands sometimes too.

Lol whats next? They really want to shut android down
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Apple seems really desperate at this point to try to put a road block on Androids success.
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rooting for apple as it will just open up the market for wp7

wendellc said:
Possibly more smoke from Apple. Why bring this up now?
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Apple is desperate. Their attempts to litigate Android products from the market are not working. So even if it probably really is just smoke and PR maneuvers with nothing substantial behind it, in their desperation Apple will do anything.
vetvito said:
Another thing. The CEO of Google held a seat on Apple Board of Directors for a long time.
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Yeah, and? Are you accusing him of corporate espionage?

z33dev33l said:
rooting for apple as it will just open up the market for wp7
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Nice try on stirring up the pot. WP7 is nothing, will never be anything. Look at how terrible it is doing in this market. Apple and Google will continue to claw it out in phone sales while Microsoft sits on the sidelines. None of the general public goes into a best buy or at&t looking for a WP7, nor will they walk out with one. They want a cool looking OS and phone and some variety to choose from. Not some bleak tiles invented by a first grade class.
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Gusar321 said:
Yeah, and? Are you accusing him of corporate espionage?
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You didn't quote my whole statement.
Its obviously desperate times at Apple. Especially if there really is no iPhone 5. OR especially if there is a iPhone 5 but it looks like a GSII.

Apple must be really going down hill.
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why apple always sue every they competitor?? they're can't make more innovation ??

This happens with Steve Jobs .
Tim Cook never made a difference .
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Google! wins ya

Remember Skynet? Google's eating the world, a little bit at a time.
I think Apple will burn out and fade away, because Android's main target is us: the open-sourced, geeky, "I NEED TO MODIFY AND LIBERATE MY SMARTPHONE" community. Now, dish that out versus the aesthetically perfect society over at Apple. Yes, they have a lot of apps. So do we. I can see it on the breaking news:
"Google buys Apple's R&D mobile department"
"WhatsApp, Inc. starts negotiations with search giant Google"
"Nokia is taken aboard by Google"
When that happens, (without going off-topic and trying to prove my point), Google will dominate and Android will be everything we'll see.
But, anything might happen, who I am to know?
PS: Ironically, Android's builds are named after desserts.

AlterJack said:
PS: Ironically, Android's builds are named after desserts.
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Wich is the main reason I use it.. Who doesnt love dessert?
Apple is trying to buy them self some time, they have wasted alot of hours making lawsuits against every other competitor... Wich leaves them behind
And I would like to see an iPhone with android, Google join in to say, U mad bro?

AlterJack said:
Remember Skynet? Google's eating the world, a little bit at a time.
I think Apple will burn out and fade away, because Android's main target is us: the open-sourced, geeky, "I NEED TO MODIFY AND LIBERATE MY SMARTPHONE" community. Now, dish that out versus the aesthetically perfect society over at Apple. Yes, they have a lot of apps. So do we. I can see it on the breaking news:
"Google buys Apple's R&D mobile department"
"WhatsApp, Inc. starts negotiations with search giant Google"
"Nokia is taken aboard by Google"
When that happens, (without going off-topic and trying to prove my point), Google will dominate and Android will be everything we'll see.
But, anything might happen, who I am to know?
PS: Ironically, Android's builds are named after desserts.
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Skynet actually exists though, it's currently under British military control.

-i7- said:
Wich is the main reason I use it.. Who doesnt love dessert?
Apple is trying to buy them self some time, they have wasted alot of hours making lawsuits against every other competitor... Wich leaves them behind
And I would like to see an iPhone with android, Google join in to say, U mad bro?
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Now that would be sweet! A fantastic thing, for sure. The goodness of Android mixed with the superior hardware and build quality of Apple.
Even more than that, let Apple adopt Android and finesse and smooth it out to their higher standards. What an overwhelming affair.

Sorry, but what superior hardware and quality? Don't drink the kool aid.

wendellc said:
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Bring it up now after Google bought Motorolla so now they have their own phone brand with nothing useful to put on it. Just a thought.

google all day!!!!!!!!!!!

If you inherited Apple...

What would you do??? I ask here looking for respones from andoid fanboys/iphone haters and wonder, would you change it? Would you make iOS open-source, or would you leave things be as is? The customer base and following are already massive, with rediculos profit margins so what would you do?

make all the patents open source for the community
all the devices will use standard usb connections
make iOS open source
Apps Store will host any software from any developer
upgrade the iphones
upgrade the ipads
make iphone/ipad with battery replacement doors for each battery change
make iphone/ipad with USB ports
bring the MAC PC / laptops up to date with the rest of the world
make the Mac OS open source, as it was originally where its roots was from
reduce the price
drop itunes, make music/video download from App Store
and much more

Close it.
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Restart the philanthropic projects policy that Steve Jobs cancelled in 1994, start donating a shed load to cancer research rather than keeping it all for myself and stockholders.

Review all of the company's policy, make it open source, share its technology with the rest of the world, and ultimately, Goople anyone?

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Close it.
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Put all my money into android.
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Here's what I would do:
Switch to Linux from xnu for apple operating systems
Full osx on ipad.
Open source all of ios except the app store (keep that on apple products only)
3rd party apps without jailbreak
Make it easier for developers to do their thing
Android on iPhone as an option

charlieb620 said:
Put all my money into android.
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then it'll be called
Macdroid

drpsyko said:
Review all of the company's policy, make it open source, share its technology with the rest of the world, and ultimately, Goople anyone?
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Good answer. Hopefully that would stop the needless patent lawsuits.

dang wish i could edit and add a poll, i guess the main answer i was looking for would be would you
1) SELL OUT
2) MAKE DRASTIC CHANGES
3) CONTINUE TO RUN BUISNESS AS IS

Nothing. Well maybe be a little bit more liberal, but nothhing on the business side.

Leave it as is. No point changing Apple. The simple and easy design suits their customer base. Plus if people want usb and open source etc, that is what androids is for
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Buy some explosives, evacuate all Apple buildings, and destroy it all! Mwahahaha!
-How cruel is the golden rule, when the lives we live are all golden plated-

I'm almost positive I would just sell the company and be rich!
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m1l4droid said:
I'd sell it to Google for only 20 million dollars. I think they'll be more than happy to buy Apple that cheap, and I'd be living happily ever after with that money.
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Really? So you want to get rid of all competition? As a consumer, you'll be the loser. Don't forget that.

Tomdg07 said:
I'm almost positive I would just sell the company and be rich!
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If you inherited Apple you really think you would need to sell the company to get rich?
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I'm glad a lot of people here doesn't run multi billion companies! You might be cleaver and you might be able to hack a phone, but having business sense? Heeeeell no!
The world would collapse!
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BazookaAce said:
I'm glad a lot of people here doesn't run multi billion companies! You might be cleaver and you might be able to hack a phone, but having business sense? Heeeeell no!
The world would collapse!
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And that's why I would just sell out.....
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Leave everything else and start selling apples, and fund cancer research

I'd shoot the SoB who created that PoS software itunes!
Just installed it to wipe my old ipod for my father in law to be, started it and bang! crashes the PC
Bloody apple crap

Apple owns the slide gesture!

http://m.gizmodo.com/5853398/apple-now-owns-the-unlock-slide-gesture
Go to hell Apple. Apple now owns the patent to any "predefined gesture used to unlock". If your doing anything with a left to right gesture. Expect the Apple Gestapo to sue your sawks off.
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Lol
via EVO.

They just keep trying to take hits on android. It's getting old
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Obviously this has been a 'patent' in the making otherwise I'd assume some other company woulda taken it?
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Obviously this has been a 'patent' in the making otherwise I'd assume some other company woulda taken it?
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The original patent was submitted back in 2005. And Apple was just now granted it.
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LMAO they are pathetic.

Apple is becoming a dictatorship.

I think they should patent the strategy of suing the crap out of people to try and get what they want instead of innovation.
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MrWhite1127 said:
The original patent was submitted back in 2005. And Apple was just now granted it.
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Ah. Well at least they produced a working product using it unlike various patent trolls. If they submitted. It that far back I have no issue with it. It's also a major factor in their lock screen notification system.
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N8ter said:
Ah. Well at least they produced a working product using it unlike various patent trolls. If they submitted. It that far back I have no issue with it. It's also a major factor in their lock screen notification system.
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Kinda like the same notification they ripped off of android right?

patent this:
The letter S, A, M, U, N, G
(Samsung, another S not included because there's already an S)
and this:
patent the English, Spanish, and Mandarin language.
f*ck off, Apple

Well in one of the many many Steve job biographys out there he was quoted as saying " I dispise android. I really do. Having them run out of the mobile market is just not enough. I want them destroyed. I want them to have no existance on this planet. I (Steve Jobs) will spend every penny in Apples bank, and every resource in my power to make sure it happens.".
I'm at work I will find the proper links and citations later .
Later on he was also quoted as saying " Why should some one (Android) be getting fame and money off of a stolen OS, with stolen features? It makes no sense to me as to why so many people love and adore such a dishonest company."
When I read that I was left speechless. Talk about Hippocrates.
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What if we have a lock just like S2U that goes the opposite way or upward..
Fuc*ing apple

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Well in one of the many many Steve job biographys out there he was quoted as saying " I dispise android. I really do. Having them run out of the mobile market is just not enough. I want them destroyed. I want them to have no existance on this planet. I (Steve Jobs) will spend every penny in Apples bank, and every resource in my power to make sure it happens.".
I'm at work I will find the proper links and citations later .
Later on he was also quoted as saying " Why should some one (Android) be getting fame and money off of a stolen OS, with stolen features? It makes no sense to me as to why so many people love and adore such a dishonest company."
When I read that I was left speechless. Talk about Hippocrates.
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Stolen OS?! Aren't Macs just linux computers with apple branding all over?
if New then
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmvCpR45LKA&feature=youtube_gdata_player

What android Fans Think of Apple Fans??

Quoted:"iPhone fanboys are status-seeking, ignorant sheep brainwashed by Apple marketing, according to some Android users. Is that view accurate"? Is some sense hit the source link to get the full article before you comment its pretty good. One of the best I've read in awhile unbiased and etc.
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Each to there own I honesty don't care unless there being a bit*h
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To me there is nothing wrong with being an apple fan. The issues I have see with the ones that don't know why they support apple, the ones that tell me an iPod is better simply because its an iPod. As long as somebody can logically explain to me why they support the products they use I won't complain. Unfortunately there are ignorant blind fanboys in every group.
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I'm actually thinking of getting an iPhone 4S. Its so pretty.
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IRL, I have no problem with iPhone users (although I laugh in disdain whenever they dare whip out their phones near me), nor do I have any particular fondness of Android users (although 99% of them treat me as a cyber-freak when it comes to Android).
What I have problem with are haters and fanboys alike. Your insecurity is showing, and it is showing very strongly.

I don't hate apple or there fans unless like max said there being bitc*hes.
But i do prefer android as its more windows mobile like as being able to customize every little aspect of it.
I do have a 64gb ipod touch 4g as it has tons of space just for my music plus has apps that android doesnt.
I think u need best of both worlds.
Just i prefer android as my one that i take everywhere whereas i don't want an iphone cause its an ipod touch with a phone.

I've actually recommended Apple products to some people. They serve a purpsoe. Some people do better with things that are simple and corralled. There's nothing wrong with that.

I generally don't mind Apple fans unless they start telling me I should buy an iPhone just because its an iPhone.

Yeah, i think apple fans are those who are mad.

My aunt has an iPhone and tried it, overrated phone. period. . Honestly, I love my Dell Venue!

muerteman said:
The issues I have see with the ones that don't know why they support apple, the ones that tell me an iPod is better simply because its an iPod. As long as somebody can logically explain to me why they support the products they use I won't complain.
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QFT. almost no apple user can do this though, which is why i have such a low opinion of them.
EDIT: lemme amend that. almost no apple user can do that WITH VALID REASONS.

The thing that bugs me about most iPhone users and iPhone fans that I know, is that they are so oblivious to everything else and don't know anything about technology. For example: I'm in school and people start talking about iPhone 4s. Then people are like there's nothing different about it! And someone else is all yes its faster! And they don't even know the difference between dual core and single core. They think that because it is a product of apple that automatically its the latest and greatest advancements in technology when it is clear to users like us that they are simply playing catch-up. It just irritates me that people hype it up so much when they are so uneducated in the technology field. I will give them that it is very aesthetically appealing and that the UI does give it a very polished high quality speedy feeling device. I also wish that we had the dev support in our market that the app store does.
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VeryCoolAlan said:
I'm actually thinking of getting an iPhone 4S. Its so pretty.
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Alanrocks????
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bcryQUuDwM&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Lol!!! Seriously I laughed my ass off when I saw this. Though, I know that not all iPhone owners are like this.
I have a buddy that had the 3g, hated it for a couple reasons. Then decided to get a Samsung Android phone through ATT. That drove him back to Apple. The primary reason was that the phone it self was horrible. And I agreed with him. I have a bit of a disdain for Samsung products. I have owned some my self, and was more than dissatisfied with there performances.
He also claimed that ios was easier to use. I disagreed with that. But, who am I to say what anybody's comprehension level is of anything. Personally, I find both Android and ios very easy to navigate and use. But hey, if the iPhone was easier for him to use. Then by golly I hope he is happy with it. To each there own.
I simply like the fact that Android is open source and that there is a pretty decent community of there for us. But, just like ios users. There are people that are idiots in here also. Hell I can't ever claim to be 100% not an idiot. But, I am learning still. That what it comes down to. Always be willing to learn and be humble about what you think you know. Because therewith always be some one out there that will trump some of your knowledge.
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Well I have both. I love my Android... very much. But on the other hand I really enjoy my iPhone as well. Not just because of the apps but also because I am a huge fan of my MacBook and I couldn't do anything without it. It just looks good and that is a very important factor for me.

Jaytronics said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bcryQUuDwM&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Lol!!! Seriously I laughed my ass off when I saw this. Though, I know that not all iPhone owners are like this.
I have a buddy that had the 3g, hated it for a couple reasons. Then decided to get a Samsung Android phone through ATT. That drove him back to Apple. The primary reason was that the phone it self was horrible. And I agreed with him. I have a bit of a disdain for Samsung products. I have owned some my self, and was more than dissatisfied with there performances.
He also claimed that ios was easier to use. I disagreed with that. But, who am I to say what anybody's comprehension level is of anything. Personally, I find both Android and ios very easy to navigate and use. But hey, if the iPhone was easier for him to use. Then by golly I hope he is happy with it. To each there own.
I simply like the fact that Android is open source and that there is a pretty decent community of there for us. But, just like ios users. There are people that are idiots in here also. Hell I can't ever claim to be 100% not an idiot. But, I am learning still. That what it comes down to. Always be willing to learn and be humble about what you think you know. Because therewith always be some one out there that will trump some of your knowledge.
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xD that video captures the attitude and tech knowledge of 98% of iPhone users PERFECTLY
hence my disdain for any iOS device.

BlackRose 22 said:
Quoted:"iPhone fanboys are status-seeking, ignorant sheep brainwashed by Apple marketing, according to some Android users. Is that view accurate"? Is some sense hit the source link to get the full article before you comment its pretty good. One of the best I've read in awhile unbiased and etc.
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It is a pretty accurate description for sure, im not a fanboy nor will i ever be one but id definitely always choose Android every time over anything especially IOS.

BlackRose 22 said:
Quoted:"iPhone fanboys are status-seeking, ignorant sheep brainwashed by Apple marketing, according to some Android users. Is that view accurate"? Is some sense hit the source link to get the full article before you comment its pretty good. One of the best I've read in awhile unbiased and etc.
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Agreed. They are very brainwashed by technology from Apple even if it existed years ago.
Oh, and can I borrow that quote to make my signature?

iPhones and iPads make non-tech people feel techie. Real techies know the difference.
The end.
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Archer said:
iPhones and iPads make non-tech people feel techie. Real techies know the difference.
The end.
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Agreed, I think most Apple people are sheeple, simply following the crowd. Or should I say following Apple marketing...
That's not to say that an iPhone is a bad device, I think it does have its good points, I just think there are better phones out there.

Google kills Android

I just read this article on Gizmodo.... I am curious to get the XDA peeps opinion.
Google Has Killed Android (the Brand)
http://gizmodo.com/5986229/

Not a big deal to me. just bring on key lime pie.

Many people already call them "Google Phone" so yeah...

Non sense...
Only one qn..do u want a good os or keep up the brand name ??
Btw android was nothing till google came into picture.. nobody even knew there was such a thing..if somebody make that this public better appreciate them..
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anuseb89 said:
Non sense...
Only one qn..do u want a good os or keep up the brand name ??
Btw android was nothing till google came into picture.. nobody even knew there was such a thing..if somebody make that this public better appreciate them..
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Exactly who cares what they call it
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I personally can care less BUT I do get annoyed when people call them Droids.

Yeah, don't care what they call it. Google phone sounds ok to me.

Nothing but clickbait

A incompetent writer wrote a sensationalist article with a sensationalist title to get more clicks. Just look at his older articles.
Who would have thunk?
edit: A "more" correct title will be "Google kills Android as a brand name".

Was that written by a 7th grader?
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Jess813 said:
I personally can care less BUT I do get annoyed when people call them Droids.
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I do too, but that's because 'Droids" are verizon-rebranded and they are historically gigantic piles of crap. I feel like comparing my nexus 4 to any phone verizon has called a droid is just an outright insult, honestly.
On the flipside, though, if a phone runs android or any android distro I use the blanket android term, similarly to how I use the term linux box for any pc running any linux distro

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Was that written by a 7th grader?
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Apparently it's by an "CEO".

More blog noise.

What a non-story that is.
:rollseyes:
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I was under the impression that they were killing the OS...

Ace42 said:
I was under the impression that they were killing the OS...
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Me also lol
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That was easily one of the stupidest things I've ever read
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woody296 said:
Not a big deal to me. just bring on key lime pie.
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Mmmm PiE
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Jess813 said:
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You kind of have to look at Google's motives for Android in the first place. They saw the importance of the future of mobile and that iOS was in the process of owning it. They launched Android primarily to protect their advertising sales business and then started monetizing content sales through Play. So if their motivation is advertising and content sales what difference does it make whose name is on the physical device or if people know their device is "Android?" I'm sure they aren't pleased with the forking taking place (Amazon) or the overlays being added that F-up the update process (100MM Galaxy's sold) but at the end of the day their well positioned in mobile and raking in tons of profit from mobile advertising and content sales. Google makes the same in those categories whether the masses buy a “Galaxy,” “HTC Sense,” or a Nexus where Android’s still fairly prominent.
“Galaxy” now leads “Android” as a smartphone search term which kind of tells you what volume and marketing does for consumer brand awareness. Samsung Electronics spent $12B in marketing and promotion in 2012. HTC’s market capitalization (the value of the entire company) is only $8B. That amount of marketing spend buys you a lot of aided and unaided brand awareness.
"Samsung ‘Galaxy' has become a more popular search term than Android for web users searching for information about Android-powered smartphones, highlighting many handset makers' fears that Samsung is becoming bigger than the other Android manufacturers and that the smartphone market is slowly becoming a two-handset, rather than an operating systems, race."​
http://www.hindustantimes.com/techn...s-Galaxy-not-Android/SP-Article1-1009843.aspx

BarryH_GEG said:
You kind of have to look at Google's motives for Android in the first place. They saw the importance of the future of mobile and that iOS was in the process of owning it. They launched Android primarily to protect their advertising sales business and then started monetizing content sales through Play. So if their motivation is advertising and content sales what difference does it make whose name is on the physical device or if people know their device is "Android?" I'm sure they aren't pleased with the forking taking place (Amazon) or the overlays being added that F-up the update process (100MM Galaxy's sold) but at the end of the day their well positioned in mobile and raking in tons of profit from mobile advertising and content sales. Google makes the same in those categories whether the masses buy a “Galaxy,” “HTC Sense,” or a Nexus where Android’s still fairly prominent.
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You need to look at this long term. Samsung definitely has the ambitions to become a new apple, i.e. build "their own ecosystem". OS (Tizen), advertising, app store etc etc.
As they already have hooked enough of users on their brand/touch wiz, next step will be to release tizen and make sure there is a certain mass of critical apps and after this samsung can start migrating users over.
Users don't give a damn if it is android/qnx/tizen/firefox os or whatever. As long as it looks the same and feels the same. Which what touchwiz is for.
So I guess el goog will need to do something if it is already not too late. Sadly the motorola is not the solution.