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making an "android" bible

I was Thinking about making a website that included all ROM/KERNELS/MODS/MODEMS/THEMES/BOOT-ANIM....
but to have it set up to multiple phones, the ultimate android bible. it would have a different section for each phone. and each ROM etc. would show the original post from the OP from xda, and then if they like it, they can click the link to go back to xda and download
i know i would already be able to do it for the vibrant (my phone)
but i was just curious if anybody else would be interested in doing this for the captivate..
it would have to be updated EVERYDAY, just like my VIBRANT BIBLE seen here
check it out, and if you think you can update daily with everything like i do, pm me and let me know. ( you dont have to organize it, i will have the website already organized and ready to go, all you have to do is post the ROMs etc. on it
EDIT: i am not advertising another website. i will not be drawing xda members away from xda, it will be just like a shortcut website leading to xda

There is already a site like this, its called XDA?

Lol hardcore
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studacris said:
There is already a site like this, its called XDA?
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Not exactly.. xda you have to search for things.. a bible you don't... my vibrant bible makes it alot easier for people to find things.. searching in xda can take forever to find something you want

FATEOWNZYOU said:
Not exactly.. xda you have to search for things.. a bible you don't... my vibrant bible makes it alot easier for people to find things.. searching in xda can take forever to find something you want
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I suppose you have a point, but that seems like A LOT of work on your end updating it everyday for all the phones just to make it slightly easier for lazier people. I mean if you want to make your phone super awesome but don't want to do a little searching and research do you really deserve it??
I am completely self taught from reading xda, and I can do anything short of actual dev work, and I like that.
Not flaming at all, just kind of expressing an opinion.

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I suppose you have a point, but that seems like A LOT of work on your end updating it everyday for all the phones just to make it slightly easier for lazier people. I mean if you want to make your phone super awesome but don't want to do a little searching and research do you really deserve it??
I am completely self taught from reading xda, and I can do anything short of actual dev work, and I like that.
Not flaming at all, just kind of expressing an opinion.
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well my main intension of making it IS to make it easier, but i wasnt planning on updating ALL the phones, i was going to try to find other people for different phones, so it wont make it any harder on me, i would just have to update the vibrant section (like im already doing, with my bible)... i expect very little income from it too, and all of it would be given to the people who are updating their phone sections

[Q] Which Roms are prepared by professionals? Everyone makes roms.

I really want to know this. How to these Roms prepared? If i take ficetos JVP CWM rom and add lets say modded camera, modded sms,modded other apk files to it. Choose a theme, choose one of those kernels,choose a free launcher, use darkys or juwe ram script. Add a fex wallpapers and name this Galaxied Gingerleylo Rom V.1
Who are really cooking roms, who are making roms like i told above?

This is unprofessional... The good roms are not built that way... See the supercurious voodoo for example... He did from scratch he ifs hero in samsung galaxy
But it takes time and people don't have time
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With respect what you are describing is just someone customizing their phone, that is not a rom, and to even think of publishing it is wrong!
Insanity cm 014/glitch

Everyone can make what you said, but only a few can actually write/modify the code for a kernel or rom (sammy example). Also modifing an apk/xml is not the same as writing code for a kernel.

miui rom ,cyanogenmod,insanity rom,darkys rom, ofcourse best of 2 miui and cyanogenmod for sgs

yken said:
Who are really cooking roms, who are making roms like i told above?
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Silly boy....ROMs are made by friendly trolls, and coded using Android, love and less than 1% animal byproducts as permitted by law. We ALL know that.
Do you make a habit of posting threads that mistake aggressive provocations as legitimate questions?

Actually, although it may have been seen as provocative, I understand his concern. Afterall, when you flash a rom you're entrusting your phone to whoever cooked it, and it's impossible to know if there's something unpleasant in there.
Clearly, the most popular roms are being used by enough people that surely someone would notice if it was transmitting personal data, or passwords or something... There's nothing wrong with asking questions rather than accepting blindly.

rschenck said:
Silly boy....ROMs are made by friendly trolls, and coded using Android, love and less than 1% animal byproducts as permitted by law. We ALL know that.
Do you make a habit of posting threads that mistake aggressive provocations as legitimate questions?
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Isn't he allowed to ask?!?

Lunchbox115 said:
Isn't he allowed to ask?!?
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I understand a desire to know, but then why not ask in the specific threads he is interested in? Perhaps it is partly born out of his poor English, but phrased and placed the way it was his post was more challange than query....which I am quite sure was how he meant it to be.
People who create mods and kernels are not paid employees or people he is paying for a service. They are volunteers and hobbyists who are sharing what they make. Noone has the right to demand anyone's "credentials' here, beyond the sources and details of their ROM. Some will be great, some will be pretty lousy...but a little caution and reading of threads will usually seperate the wheat from the chaff.
As for his demand to know "who" these people are...if someone said they were just a geek in their mom's basement or an off duty porn star coding android kernels on the side for fun, would he then be better informed about their ROM?
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rschenck said:
an off duty porn star coding android kernels on the side for fun, would he then be better informed about their ROM?
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now that's a rom i would use!!

official roms or stock rom - made by professionals (i hope so)

yken said:
I really want to know this. How to these Roms prepared? If i take ficetos JVP CWM rom and add lets say modded camera, modded sms,modded other apk files to it. Choose a theme, choose one of those kernels,choose a free launcher, use darkys or juwe ram script. Add a fex wallpapers and name this Galaxied Gingerleylo Rom V.1
Who are really cooking roms, who are making roms like i told above?
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I think it is a mixture of everything. Some people take the stock code, add some stuff that is beneficial and publish it as their mod. Some other people may take this modded ROM, add some more stuff that they believe is beneficial and publish it as their mod. Atleast, thats what I believe. Please correct me if i'm wrong.
I'm not very sure about the "professional" ones, but CyanogenMOD and Darky's ROM are used by a lot of people. I'm a noob to this scene, so I dont know about others. But there are certainly a lot of mods floating around.
BTW, there should be "like" button on this forum. Some comments are very witty.

Udayakiran said:
BTW, there should be "like" button on this forum. Some comments are very witty.
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Most people use the Thanks button for that...though I agree having a like button as well would be nice.
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@rschenck: you are right. If he had read some dev-threads he would know more about it. But not everybody is interested in details. So I think he may ask this question.
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Some_sense_pro_v1

The Missing Rom, Sense 1, 2,3 are more than just HTC's UI. They are the way we Interact with our Incredible. As i write this There are Dev's and Dev teams making great strides on what they feel will be the greatest ROM. I have spent many years working on car project only to find that I am never happy with it. A good projects are never finished. With all the Sense rom's you get flavors of sense. With the senseless roms you get no Sense. With this rom you get some Sense and Launcher Pro. I have removed everything that doesn't work with Launcher Pro.
This is my first shot at a Rom, I plan to continue learning and devolving.
Sense widgets gone
Battery draining apps gone
Rom zip file is less than 110 MB
Sense clock and calander still there
camera works
If you want apps install them, the market is full.
Thanks to Jakresge, and every Dev. on this site.
http://db.tt/dwaOmCn
From a computer running Windows XP

reserved.............

I am a bit confused as to what this is?

Sense 1, rose removed, launcher pro added, Rom
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tjamscad said:
Sense 1, rose removed, launcher pro added, Rom
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...That's it?
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solarpolitiks said:
...That's it?
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Yes, it works
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Hmmmm...
¦*¦HYBRID¦*¦SPEED¦*¦ by ws83

I request to have this thread removed. No offense to the OP - but adding a different launcher and some other minor tweaks does not justify a ROM.
Thank you for your creativity and time spent on your project though.

Lmao ill try it..why not? Maybe its good you never know
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tincbtrar said:
I request to have this thread removed. No offense to the OP - but adding a different launcher and some other minor tweaks does not justify a ROM.
Thank you for your creativity and time spent on your project though.
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What does
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Give it a chance guys. What have all sense 1 roms done? Changed little from stock? Exactly.
Youre looking at a crackflashing troll with ORD

No offense either bud. Its just... well... how exactly did you create "your ROM" on your phone?
Did you do a nand and then expect people to flash your back-up?
I don't understand what your doing or why. Normally ROM development takes place on a computer with some knowledge of how things work in these ROMs so we can make them better. And to make them more appealing to the other users of these forums or whoever.
Simply installing Launcher Pro or whatever else does not meen you have created a ROM. You have just installed Launcher Pro to a ROM, that is all.
However, if you would like to get into "real" ROM development there are a many valuable tools and resources in theses very forums to help you get started. Not to mention the devs that roam around here as well that would more than likely be willing to pull you to the side and help you out, provided you just ask them.
I want you to pay attention to this next part ok? The name of this website is called xda- wait for it... wait for it... "DEVELOPERS" yup, xda-developers. Not xda-I installed launcher pro to some craptastic ROM and I expect people to actually use it.com
Until then friend, maybe you should try something else.
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watt9493 said:
Give it a chance guys. What have all sense 1 roms done? Changed little from stock? Exactly.
Youre looking at a crackflashing troll with ORD
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It's not just that but if you remove rosie, why not all HTC widgets, etc?
This is literally deleting one APK and pasting another in its place.

wildstang83 said:
No offense either bud. Its just... well... how exactly did you create "your ROM" on your phone?
Did you do a nand and then expect people to flash your back-up?
I don't understand what your doing or why. Normally ROM development takes place on a computer with some knowledge of how things work in these ROMs so we can make them better. And to make them more appealing to the other users of these forums or whoever.
Simply installing Launcher Pro or whatever else does not meen you have created a ROM. You have just installed Launcher Pro to a ROM, that is all.
However, if you would like to get into "real" ROM development there are a many valuable tools and resources in theses very forums to help you get started. Not to mention the devs that roam around here as well that would more than likely be willing to pull you to the side and help you out, provided you just ask them.
I want you to pay attention to this next part ok? The name of this website is called xda- wait for it... wait for it... "DEVELOPERS" yup, xda-developers. Not xda-I installed launcher pro to some craptastic ROM and I expect people to actually use it.com
Until then friend, maybe you should try something else.
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A little harsh but funny. Gotta give the guy props for having the balls to post it. I myself made many kitchen built ROMs for personal use and never dared post them. Appears to me that many of the custom ROMSs here are just kitchen builds so what one more?

kzoodroid said:
Appears to me that many of the custom ROMSs here are just kitchen builds so what one more?
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Actually no. No offense bud but I don't think any of the seasoned devs on here use the kitchen to "build" a ROM. All the devs I work with manually port our ROMs peice by peice. Less error in the long run. The only reason I have ever used the kitchen is to deodex, zipalign and sign. I don't even hardly use it for that anymore. 9 times out of 10 the kitchen is not capable of doing the things that we do to our ROMs.
Never ment to crush dreams or whatever with my first response, I just think if we are going to do something that makes changes to or effects other peoples devices we should take the time and do it right.

wildstang83 said:
Actually no. No offense bud but I don't think any of the seasoned devs on here use the kitchen to "build" a ROM. All the devs I work with manually port our ROMs peice by peice. Less error in the long run. The only reason I have ever used the kitchen is to deodex, zipalign and sign. I don't even hardly use it for that anymore. 9 times out of 10 the kitchen is not capable of doing the things that we do to our ROMs.
Never ment to crush dreams or whatever with my first response, I just think if we are going to do something that makes changes to or effects other peoples devices we should take the time and do it right.
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Does that mean you didn't flash it? We all start somewhere. I did not mean to insult anyone. But there is a gap in the Rom selections. I like some of the sense apps that you lose when going senseless. I also don't like the button layout of sense. And the battery draining sense widgets. That is what I have done filled a hole
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wildstang83 said:
Actually no. No offense bud but I don't think any of the seasoned devs on here use the kitchen to "build" a ROM. All the devs I work with manually port our ROMs peice by peice. Less error in the long run. The only reason I have ever used the kitchen is to deodex, zipalign and sign. I don't even hardly use it for that anymore. 9 times out of 10 the kitchen is not capable of doing the things that we do to our ROMs.
Never ment to crush dreams or whatever with my first response, I just think if we are going to do something that makes changes to or effects other peoples devices we should take the time and do it right.
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Good to know that your building your own ROMs. Its hard to tell from all thats posted who to trust as a dev and who's just a hack. No offense to the op. CaptainKrtek had a post in the Eris forum last year about what it takes to be a real dev here, wish I could find it again had some good info in it.

I will update my op I was more/less saying that I am new to this kinda thing and don't call myself a developer like a nurse doesn't call themselves Doctor, or a drafter doesn't call themselves an engineer.
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kzoodroid said:
Good to know that your building your own ROMs. Its hard to tell from all thats posted who to trust as a dev and who's just a hack. No offense to the op. CaptainKrtek had a post in the Eris forum last year about what it takes to be a real dev here, wish I could find it again had some good info in it.
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This thread? Second post....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1121585

tjamscad said:
I will update my op I was more/less saying that I am new to this kinda thing and don't call myself a developer like a nurse doesn't call themselves Doctor, or a drafter doesn't call themselves an engineer.
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If you really want to be a dev then start hanging out in chef central. The advice I had originally said came form captainkrtek actually was from cyanogen. I read it over a year ago when I was playing with dsixda's kitchen and thought of posting my own ROM. I posted a link below as I think its appropriate. Not sure why our dev section here isn't as nice as the Eris forum, they have a lot more info over there and being a former Eris owner I miss it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=667298

Something is weird in the dev section...

I don't understand/speak english very well, but it seems it's like if all the dev who's working on the Note are fighting against each other, like children
I respect the devs and their work, but everything would be better if all the devs unite all together in order to do a great ****ing rom...

Whats your assumption based on?
I have big respects for all devs / chefs here. If it wernt for eyebe i wouldnt have solved some issues in the early days of my rom. Theres always healthy competition which is good for users and peeps who suffer ocfd.
And if someone is critical in a constructive manner then it spurs you on to perfect as best you can. Androids open source and that ideology is used in cutom roms. Share and enhance pushing the boundaries of whats avaliable and All for the benefit of the users on xda. In an ideal world eveyone would work on one rom. However its not and people like choice and variety and thats what you have here.
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I don't get the impression that there's any bad blood in the dev forum, but if I had one wish, it would be that every dev would need to state their design philosophy (and perhaps some of their methods) in the beginning of the thread, to get a better feel if their particular product is for us.

Without ROM competition will not be a good product. All interested in promoting ROM developers will try to offer the best.

Yeah, one might think so, they are fighting against each others.
But if y ou read between the lines it is because some "devs" just don´t care about some sort of protocol.
"steal" ideas from each other without giving credits and so on.
It´s up to everyone themservesto judge this as childish or narrow minded, but it´s the opinion of those devs themselves which finally counts in the end.
I personally had it seen coming. so many differenz people working on same or similar project. It has been a matter of time that some Devs cross their lines.
I would love to have them having shake hand and to combine their powers to create an even more powerful project, but those people seem to have to be some sort of lone wolf to be creative in that way.
Anyway we´ll see what happens. And I guess many more motivated devs coming when official sources from samsung will become available to devs.
That will massively push ICS developement further for our device.

As you can see miui post has been closed
It's impressive...
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another one quit his project?
The surely are some people havin short-circiuted head right now.
Blowing thing up much above a healthy level.

ssss69 said:
As you can see miui post has been closed
It's impressive...
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Why was it closed?
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nickyg008 said:
Why was it closed?
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The dev was removed from XDA by the moderators. Whether that's a temp or permanent removal is not yet entirely clear.

chasmodo said:
The dev was removed from XDA by the moderators. Whether that's a temp or permanent removal is not yet entirely clear.
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Wow pretty big to get banned. Was it because of the picture he posted in a comment?
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I didn't had the time to follow the whole MIUI Revolution thread, so I won't defend anybody, but it's quite a bad news
The work done is/was truly amazing.
Livewings probably got upset by people asking question/ETA/stuff
Hope he or someone will continue the good work!

This seems to just hurt our development community. Bad news. I am using the MIUI ROM and now I am not sure we will be able to pursue development of this ROM. Bad bad bad news.

nickyg008 said:
Wow pretty big to get banned. Was it because of the picture he posted in a comment?
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Oh looks like the whole thread is deleted. I can't find it anymore.
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Yep, it really is deleted.

chasmodo said:
Yep, it really is deleted.
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What a shame
But shouldn't the people participating in the thread be informed? I am not contesting the Mods actions here, it is their site and they could do anything they like, but it is minimum courtesy to inform the participants that it has been deleted for so-and-so reason.
This is hoping better sense prevails!

I don't understand this shot, why have they erased all of it? This shows the respect that the mods have to the Dev community
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I think peeps need to chill abit its starting to get like an episode of eastenders in here
It is what it is. Mods have hard enough time keeping these forums clean i mean how many ics posts are closed daily how many non dev threads in dev section get placed all the time.
There are rules to avoid this if members could only be bothered to do a little reading first but peeps dont. Chas dyslexic thread was so true to the bone its scary and these peeps are flashing roms god help them
The devs try to push the boundaries all for your benefit. Why because you and i ask them to. No one here really cares who puts out the rom just as long as you can feed your addictions. Me included.
Ill always want to flash the latest and greatest and the only way to achieve this is competition by what ever means.
But remember no one can steal anything from anyone as it wasnt theres to own.
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I have to admit. Everyday I used to visit a HD2 forum for a veery long time and everything was in order there. People used to obey the rules.
In GNote section there are a lot of newbies who don't even bother to get familiar with the xda's rules.

Asking for a rom built for gaming is apparently dumd.

So I asked the question is there any rom built especially for gaming and got judged as an idiot . Is my request so crazy? I mean I like gaming on my phone and I want my phone tweaked for gaming everyone uses their phone how they see fit. Devs make roms for various reasons such as bloatware removal, speed, theming, etc. What's so idiotic about wanting a custom rom built for the gamers? I'm sure all of you are geniuses and my question was so beneath you right . Well I got a pm and a dev is working on it so I guess I'm not as shallow as the judgmental trolls would believe me to be.

So you start a brand new thread? Seems like a waste.
And if you really wanted a ROM for gamers I would suggest that you learn to build ROMs on your own so that you can customize it exactly how you want.
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I just played solitaire on my phone using the OctOS AOSP ROM and it was really smooth man!
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Tablets work the best for games. They have the best support for controllers. Sprints offering a galaxy tab 3 lte for $49.
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PAC man with chronic kernel, I get some good speeds and games run really smooth. I play batman and GTA fine
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[email protected] said:
So I asked the question is there any rom built especially for gaming and got judged as an idiot . Is my request so crazy? I mean I like gaming on my phone and I want my phone tweaked for gaming everyone uses their phone how they see fit. Devs make roms for various reasons such as bloatware removal, speed, theming, etc. What's so idiotic about wanting a custom rom built for the gamers? I'm sure all of you are geniuses and my question was so beneath you right . Well I got a pm and a dev is working on it so I guess I'm not as shallow as the judgmental trolls would believe me to be.
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Calm down, bro. Nobody called you an idiot. There were just questions as to the actual need for a gaming-specific rom, when gaming works fine on basically any rom and there aren't really any apps that require power beyond what this phone already offers. If someone is building one, I wish them the best and hope the result gives you what you want. I just personally don't see the point.
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So I asked the question is there any rom built especially for gaming and got judged as an idiot . Is my request so crazy?
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Umm, No, if that was the question you asked.
But that wasn't the question you asked.
You asked,
Can someone make a rom that is built for gaming or is there one I'm missing
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Big difference.
What's so idiotic about wanting a custom rom built for the gamers?
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Nothing wrong with that at all. And acutally there are some that are better used for gaming and some even (I know of a couple for the E4GT) that were developed for it. You can find some by searching and then trying them for yourself. Then modifying them to meet your needs as best you can.
Thing is, is that you must remember that we can only read the words you write down how you right them. Words matter.
Also XDA is not about 'making things for you or anyone' it's about developers making things they like and sharing them with others to gain input.
Most often the developers here go out of their way to help and support others and teach what they know - hence the term developers forum.
Questions asked are not 'beneath' me or most.
However there is proper etiquette, decorum and respect. There are also rules for posting too.
XDA is super for those who have gone way out of their way to search, look, read, search/try/load and search some more to find what they're looking for.
You seem to have taken the advice in a personal negative manner and got butt hurt and had to start a new post just to show us..
Good luck.

Yes, it is in fact dumb, both the request and especially the way you asked it. First of all, what does a "ROM built for gaming" even mean? Do you want a ROM that plays games better? Is there a particular game that does not play well on what is one of the most powerful devices out there? What would a gaming ROM actually give you that the stock ROM does not?
It would be one thing if you came here and said that a particular game does not run well and asked if there is a ROM or configuration that can give an improvement, but you made a nebulous request and are surprised that people didn't particularly care for it. I'm not even a dev and I thought your request was in poor taste.

Enough trolling and such, some mod please close this thread. It seriously has no point to anything.

Thread Closed... PM sent please refrain from opening another thread.
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