[Q] Root for unlocked bootloaders - Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi.
I've just received my Z (drool) and immediately looked to XDA Devs for root instructions (even though the handset has only just been released I knew someone would be working on it already - by someone I mean Doomlord I'm very glad to see that Doomlord is on-board, I've used many of his ROMs and sought his help numerous times and have always been happy with his tinkering!
I don't want to unlock the bootloader if at all possible and to judge by my previous phones (Arc, HD2, Exec etc) at some point there always appears a root method for unlocked bootloaders.
So my question is, if I'm patient this time, is there a good possibility that we will have a 'Root for unlocked bootloaders' for this sexy beast?
Thanks (and sorry for the waffle).

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Chance of bricking..?

Hi people,
I'm new to this forum and this is my first thread..
Here is my situation, i just recently bought a Captivate through ebay and its locked.. I will try to find the unlock code using the method in this forum.. after i unlock it, i think i would love to update the android os to 2.2..
will any of this process have the slightly chance of bricking my Captivate?
i will not try to root my Captivate yet coz of the possibility of bricking it..
I will wait until there are solutions to this bricking thing, or when i feel bored i might try this.. ^_^
also, if you guys are kind enough, i would love to know what all kind of things that will brick a Captivate..
Thanks..
I am no expert but XDA helped me with my first smartphone (Palm Treo 750 bought on ebay) and I did everything without any problem. You need to read much until you understand everything clearly and always follow the instructions step by step because these guys know their stuff. Currently buy a Captivate. I love this phone. Already rooted and Im to upgrade FroYo without fear because if it becomes a brick I know that here finds it solution. Good luck.
got to read
Yep, that's the key. Read, read, read, and then you will have to read some more! I'm new to the board also, and this is my first smartphone. I've spent the past month reading threads in the development section when I have the chance (which is not very often...) and there is still a LOT of reading and learning I need to do!
Don't forget to use the search, which might or might not help. Honestly the biggest help is to read all the posts in all the threads - which will take a while!!
Lot's of great help on this board. I'm pretty close to feeling up to speed enough to cook this thing without fear of bricking...
I would wait a while before you do anything like installing the JI6 Froyo ROM. From what I've read, you have more chance of bricking your Cappy during that process than by doing anything else.
BTW, by just rooting or unlocking your unit you have very little chance of bricking your phone. It's what you can do after you root your phone that can cause it to brick. lol
Like the above poster said; "READ, READ, READ" and then when you decide you want to do something, read some more. I've been reading these forums since before August 15 when I got my captivate, and I STILL haven't done anything like rooting because I'm staying "stock" until the official froyo update is released.
Thanks for the nice reply guys.. and yes, i will keep on reading through this forum..
btw, from what i understand, rooting will enable your phone to install android apps from worldwide market right? does it safe? i mean, i heard that someone bricked their phone while installing some apps..
If you are interested in side-loading apps, try the Android Sideload Wonder Machine (it's called something like that). It works well for me. I'm not sure if this is exactly what you are looking for, but it is useful to know.
LK89 said:
Thanks for the nice reply guys.. and yes, i will keep on reading through this forum..
btw, from what i understand, rooting will enable your phone to install android apps from worldwide market right? does it safe? i mean, i heard that someone bricked their phone while installing some apps..
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once you are rooted, you would still have to enable market access (for apps outside your att restricted market)
i would like to see how installing an app bricked a phone.....i call shens.
rooting is easy, and just by rooting your phone you wont brick it. you would actually have to do something to harm it. even then, its all recoverable via ODIN.
Sorry for a noob question.. but, what is JI6? ^_^
JI6 is the version of froyo (android 2.2). Go on the phone to settings-> about phone-> it's in the baseband version. Mine is I897UCJI6 (froyo).

[Q] Root without HTCDevUnlock?

There has been no mention in the ONE forums before these started getting split off about being able to root without going through HTC Devunlock first. Do you think that is being worked on and will be released? Someone had pointed to a twitter post from someone about that in the EVO LTE forums but that was weeks ago and nothing ever got posted to XDA.
Trying to figure out if I should jump on this phone or not, want to know how quickly I can get root for things like Greenify/Titanium/Adblock/Wifi Tether. I can wait for full unlock S-Off and Roms, but those apps are essential to how I like to experience my phones.
Htcdev does not root your device. It somewhat unlocks it but keeps the security on. Most devices are rooted fairly quickly, so this should be no different.
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Htc dev unlock, unlocks your bootloader (s-off). This allows the flashing of new kernels and recoveries.
mrancier said:
Htc dev unlock, unlocks your bootloader (s-off). This allows the flashing of new kernels and recoveries.
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No htcdev doesn't give s-off. Its still s on and you have to use fastboot to flash kernels and radios.
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Sorry about my misleading post. I stand corrected. Thank you.
I confirmed with HTCdev on twitter that the Sprint version of the One is getting unlock support, at least. We may or may not get full S-Off sooner or later, but the supported unlock method will be enough to satisfy me for now.
Over at HTC one (M7) forum they already have quite a few working ROMS I don't see a reason why those ROMS shouldn't work for the sprint version
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It seems to me that everyone is missing the point of his/her question. The question is can you root without doing the HTC unlock method. What if someone wants to have a rooted device but wants to keep there warranty?
64mosh said:
Over at HTC one (M7) forum they already have quite a few working ROMS I don't see a reason why those ROMS shouldn't work for the sprint version
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I would not flash a ROM intended for a GSM device on CDMA.
knlmwq said:
It seems to me that everyone is missing the point of his/her question. The question is can you root without doing the HTC unlock method. What if someone wants to have a rooted device but wants to keep there warranty?
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Sorry I was out of town for work but this is the point I was making.
I understand an unlocked bootloader /= root. That wasn't related to my question.
For example my Asus Transformer tablet has root methods that are available without the use of Asus' Bootloader unlock (similar concept to HTC's version). This gives me features/access to apps that I would like to use without loosing my warranty and without them tracking my phone that way. All of the root methods currently listed in the dev forums are currently requiring HTC Dev unlock to achieve the root access, which although is great for some is not what many of us want.
It is no different than for us coming from a Sprint Evo 4G LTE, many of us achieved root and eventually S-Off without requiring the use of HTC Dev unlock. That is what I am interested in, but my inquiry was about the fact there had been no threads regarding it being worked on or developed.
I was interested in this same thing and did some research and emailed HTC about it. HTC doesn't void warranty automatically just because you unlocked it according to their support, but it allows them the right to deny it. Basically, if they detect non-stock software on the phone, they are likely to void it. It sounded like it didn't matter if you used their unlock method or not.
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64mosh said:
Over at HTC one (M7) forum they already have quite a few working ROMS I don't see a reason why those ROMS shouldn't work for the sprint version
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This is why people brick their phones...
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adrianr514 said:
This is why people brick their phones...
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Haha, right?
knlmwq said:
It seems to me that everyone is missing the point of his/her question. The question is can you root without doing the HTC unlock method. What if someone wants to have a rooted device but wants to keep there warranty?
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Currently, NO, you CANNOT root without HTC dev unlock.
HTCDev unlock does not void your warranty. I'm not going to argue this, nor explain it. Google it.
ok
thanks a lot
Typically, a HTC device that has htcdev support doesn't get a root method without unlocking. It happens but not very many security devs are going to spend any amount of time trying to find a root exploit when one isn't needed to root the device. The time is better spent finding a s-off exploit.
The at&t guys will be plugging away at a root method and if they find a root exploit it will be compatible with ours. unless its a temp root exploit that changes cid to get them htcdev support, in that case it would be useless for us.
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Dev unlock and then check this out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2236955
This should answer your question
steelh said:
currently, no, you cannot
htcdev unlock does not void your warranty. I'm not going to argue this, nor explain it. Google it.
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be careful with yr statement because this does not apply to all countries. Different Countries service centres have a different policy with regards to consumer laws in that countries
it depends on the consumer laws of the country. Here in singapore or malaysia or some asian countries , once u dev unlock i can say warranty is good as gone.
Magpir said:
be careful with yr statement because this does not apply to all countries. Different Countries service centres have a different policy with regards to consumer laws in that countries
it depends on the consumer laws of the country. Here in singapore or malaysia or some asian countries , once u dev unlock i can say warranty is good as gone.
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You are in a Sprint HTC One forum. So yes, what SteelH said applies.

[Q] Camera with bootloader?

Sony has said that installing bootloader in the Xperia Z1 will disable the camera, but I've read that if you recover the TA, the camera works again. Is this true? If so, could I install different kernel ROMs (like CM) with a working camera?
I'm sorry if the question sounds dumb, I'm new to Android.
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Sony has said that installing bootloader in the Xperia Z1 will disable the camera, but I've read that if you recover the TA, the camera works again. Is this true? If so, could I install different kernel ROMs (like CM) with a working camera?
I'm sorry if the question sounds dumb, I'm new to Android.
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Firstly, you don't "install" the bootloader, every phone has one, you just unlock it to get access to it.
Secondly, you can restore the TA but that RELOCKS the bootloader so you cant use custom kernels.
Trust me, when this issue is sorted it will be big news so you will get to know it.
Currently this is the situation
locked bootloader = stock kernels = working camera
Unlocked bootloader = stock or custom kernels = NO CAMERA
No question is dumb if you don't know the answer, but please get used to searching before asking, that way you definitely wont ask any dumb questions
Thanks!
But the only ROM with the stock kernel is HONAM1Z, and I have no idea what features it has....
The other stock kernel ROMs are just updated firmware with root, but there are 2 that are basically the same. Which one should I use?
Do you need bootloader for mods? (like PureXAudio)
You choose any one you want. No one on here will tell you want you want, its up to you to try, test and decide for yourself.
As for other mods, no you don't need bootloader unlocked. That is only for custom kernels.
If you read the OP of each mod it will tell you the requirements and if it does not say "Requires an unlocked bootloader" then its fine to use on a stock kernel.
You will just have to root, install recovery and flash them.
Do ROMs need to be of the exact model number?
For example, you have a ROM for the C6903, but I have the C6906. Can I use the ROM?
Or if mine is build number 14.1.G.1.518, and yours is 14.1.G.2.257, can I still use the ROM?
And does the phone get unrooted when updated OTA? And how do you know which build number is newer?
I would first suggest you read the tutorials in the general section and the dev section.
Most, if not all, your questions will be answered there and I will only be cutting and pasting information from there.
As something to think about, when I first joined xda I spent a LOT of time reading guides and tutorials before doing anything to my phone.
I am not saying I wont answer your questions, but the answers are out there for you already and taking things steady will give you the best chance of learning and not doing something daft to your phone and bricking it.
Here are a couple of links to read
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2439328
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2440565
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2440597
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2449244
No need to read ALL the threads, but the opening pages contain important information. If after reading those you still have questions you can ask them in those threads and then people can help you there.
Best of luck, and I am available via PM if you need me
Thanks for the threads! They were pretty useful
Although I still have questions about ROMs. If your room is for C6903, and I have 6906, can I still use it? I would guess that you can, as the only thing that change is the baseband.
Also, what ROM do you recommend? Yours (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2504638), this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2440408) or generic 534 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2505796)?
Do you know what Honam1Z? (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2463675). I cant seem to find the advantages of the ROM....
Thanks again for answering my questions, mate.
And I'm sorry if you have received this same message by PM. My sent box appeared empty after I sent it, so I didnt think it reached you.

Custom ROM for a Locked Bootloader?

Hi I am new to this forum, so my apology if I have started this thread in the wrong place.
I have recently found out that my Sony Xperia Z phone's bootloader isn't unlockable! :crying:
I have rooted my device, and modded it for the best experience I could get. However, since my bootloader isn't unlockable, I can't install any custom roms! And without a good rom I cant make my phone... well, mine! I was wondering if there are any ways around this whole locked bootloader thing.. If there's a process to actually unlock it? If not, I guess that's alright... But PLEASE tell me there is a way to flash some kind of custom rom to my device with a locked bootloader. I was really interested in getting the Pac-Rom until I found out this news. I am no expert to this whole rom thing, so try not to be too techy for me please. If there is any custom roms available without a unlocked bootloader, PLEASE give me a link or something. It would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!
I don't know how it looks like with stock based custom roms and not unlockable phones. But I think it would be work because it is for locked bootloaders also. You can find them also here on xda. You have to give a look at the thread name to see if it is for you. It must be written LB. (lb= locked bootloader)
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[Q] Quick Question ..

Hey XDA !!
Maybe this question is thrown around a lot , but here it goes anyways . I have pre-ordered a Nexus6 (64GB,blue) and am expecting it to arrive by the end of this week. Is it advisable/necessary to root the device ? I mean most of the nexus owners here have already rooted their phones ( judging by the signatures ) . I currently own a Xperia Arc S (LT18i) which i had rooted due to performance issues (cm9) but i wasnt very happy with it considering I lost the bravia settings. So do I really need a rooted phone ? And also what is the difference between unlocked bootloader and rooted device.
These are pretty basic questions and if there is a thread for any of this please post a link here in the comments . Pretty new to all this.
Thanks
Harmanpreet Singh said:
Hey XDA !!
Maybe this question is thrown around a lot , but here it goes anyways . I have pre-ordered a Nexus6 (64GB,blue) and am expecting it to arrive by the end of this week. Is it advisable/necessary to root the device ? I mean most of the nexus owners here have already rooted their phones ( judging by the signatures ) . I currently own a Xperia Arc S (LT18i) which i had rooted due to performance issues (cm9) but i wasnt very happy with it considering I lost the bravia settings. So do I really need a rooted phone ? And also what is the difference between unlocked bootloader and rooted device.
These are pretty basic questions and if there is a thread for any of this please post a link here in the comments . Pretty new to all this.
Thanks
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here a pretty basic answer.. if you NEED root, then yes, its advisable. if you dont need root, why would you root? the only thing that can be done with root is changing out system files and running apps that need root. it wont do anything else for you.
if you want to flash roms or other things, you dont need root either. but you would need to unlock your bootloader and flash a custom recovery. you dont need root to flash roms or kernels, you only need root to change system files and run apps that need root.
what differences/advantages one gets after rooting , considering nexus already has stock android .
Harmanpreet Singh said:
what differences/advantages one gets after rooting , considering nexus already has stock android .
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again, the difference is that with root you can change system files and run root oriented apps. root itself does not change anything except add in the superuser binaries.
Harmanpreet Singh said:
what differences/advantages one gets after rooting , considering nexus already has stock android .
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You can always Google the terms or watch some videos on YouTube etc. it comes down to personal preference and your goals/intentions with your device.
http://youtu.be/dXdCptD6HoM
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