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I assume everyone in this forum is a nexus one owner, if u were going 2 upgrade 2 one phone wat phone would that b and why?
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Personally, I would not upgrade to anything that has yet been announced as the dual core phones already hitting the market are soon to be leapfrogged by the quad-core Tegra & Qualcomm chips late this year / early next year.
The N1 is still an awesome device and still gets plenty of Google love as evident by the OTA to Gingerbread (though many were claiming abandonment due to the delay).
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I assume everyone in this forum is a nexus one owner, if u were going 2 upgrade 2 one phone wat phone would that b and why?
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Well, whichever phone i'd choose i would certainly want one where all the letters on the keyboard work properly. It seems that the keyboard you are currently using is broken
The next Nexus Phone, so probably when Android Ice Cream Sandwich comes out. It should be a better improvement from the N1 to the next Nexus than it was going to the Nexus S.
Keep the N1 for now until a much better device arrives especially if your T-Mobile usa. Consider the Atrix if on At&t...
I would suggest the next Nexus
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The next Nexus Phone, so probably when Android Ice Cream Sandwich comes out. It should be a better improvement from the N1 to the next Nexus than it was going to the Nexus S.
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navlem said:
I would suggest the next Nexus
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I feel the same way, I found an excuse to get a new gadget and bought a xoom. Seeing as its google experience ill be knee deep in honeycomb to keep my addiction fueled. Next phone, nexus hd with a orion processor and hi resolution amoled with the fingerprint scanner and a george foreman grill... you know for bacon.
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I am hoping that the next Nexus blows us away and makes it worth buying a new phone when I don't need one. For now, I just can't justify it when the N1 it still so great. There's nothing out there that can really do anything that I can't do. Sure, turn maps with two fingers... but really, I don't need that. NFC, yeah, but it's not common enough to be worth it.
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I am hoping that the next Nexus blows us away and makes it worth buying a new phone when I don't need one. For now, I just can't justify it when the N1 it still so great. There's nothing out there that can really do anything that I can't do. Sure, turn maps with two fingers... but really, I don't need that. NFC, yeah, but it's not common enough to be worth it.
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I swear if you search for it theirs a hacked maps 5.0 that allows finger rotation!
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I swear if you search for it theirs a hacked maps 5.0 that allows finger rotation!
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Its not a hacked Maps apk, but some changes to your system files that trick the system into thinking the N1 is a true multitouch device. You can either replace the files found in thread below or flash the zip in recovery depending on your comfort level.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=880447&highlight=Maps+rotation
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Its not a hacked Maps apk, but some changes to your system files that trick the system into thinking the N1 is a true multitouch device. You can either replace the files found in thread below or flash the zip in recovery depending on your comfort level.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=880447&highlight=Maps+rotation
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How the heck does it do that? I thought the N1 couldn't do it at all.
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How the heck does it do that? I thought the N1 couldn't do it at all.
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The N1 has multitouch but doesn't do it well due to the crappy clearpad 2000 touch sensor used by HTC. The touch points will cross axis'. You will turn the map to the left and then it may turn right all of a sudden. Instead of enabling a half-assed map rotation, google disabled this feature on the N1. Personally, I have used this "hack" and had decent success YMMV.
If you do install this, remember to do it again after flashing different ROMS/Nightlies etc....
I am sure many of us are experiencing the annoying auto brightness bug on our Nexus 7 that got introduced with version 4.2. Please go to the link below and vote for this issue (star it), as it doesn't seem to be on Google's radar right now more votes will definitely put it there. Thank you!
[Edit] looks like I don't have enough posts to add links yet. Can someone please post a link to issue 39841 on code.Google.com for me?
Auto-brightness has never worked right on any Android-device I have ever owned, it's the first thing I always turn to manual, and I doubt that'll change anytime soon.
If it were up to me, I would remove it from Android altogether.
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Auto-brightness has never worked right on any Android-device I have ever owned, it's the first thing I always turn to manual, and I doubt that'll change anytime soon.
If it were up to me, I would remove it from Android altogether.
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Agreed. On my aging HTC Wildfire, still running FroYo, I have Auto-brightness disabled.
On my Nexus 7, I have both Auto-brightness and PRISM/SmartDimmer disabled.
...and I doubt the supposed battery saving benefits of either are much to get excited about...
Rgrds,
Ged.
jadephyre said:
Auto-brightness has never worked right on any Android-device I have ever owned, it's the first thing I always turn to manual, and I doubt that'll change anytime soon.
If it were up to me, I would remove it from Android altogether.
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Well, that's pretty sad. It works so seamless on iOS devices, you don't even notice it working.
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konradsa said:
Well, that's pretty sad. It works so seamless on iOS devices, you don't even notice it working.
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Well, i don't know about iDevices, i only ever used the first iphone for a few months before I bailed and went to Android.
Also, don't know why it doesn't work right on Android, probably because every manufacturer uses different light-sensors.
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Well, i don't know about iDevices, i only ever used the first iphone for a few months before I bailed and went to Android.
Also, don't know why it doesn't work right on Android, probably because every manufacturer uses different light-sensors.
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Well, anecdotally it worked much better on the N7 up to 4.2 came around, even if it wasn't perfect. So at the very least they can go back to that behavior. Please vote!
+1 vote for this thread to be closed..
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+1 vote for this thread to be closed..
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And the reason is?
I love how HTC used to get so much **** for having a laggy UI with Sense. I was one of those who kind of hated on Sense and really dissed it. Now I have noticed TouchWiz has become the Sense of old. Bulky, laggy, and way too big for its own good. Kind of funny how the two companies have done a reversal. I used to purchase Samsung devices just to avoid the lag of Sense and other UIs. Every video review I have watched, the reviewer has complained of lag on the S4. For once I will actually stay with an HTC device until my next contract renewal. I feel it was done right. One thing that isnt fair though is that nobody seems to be giving Samsung the hard time HTC got about their overbloated UI overlay. What gives?
Oh, and the classic "The reviewer or people posting negative reviews and comments about the GS4 are paid by HTC" wtf, really? If someone doesnt like Samsung products they are assumed to be crazy and must be getting "paid off" to post negative comments? That's really unfair and childish of them to say. Anyone else noticing unfair biases?
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I love how HTC used to get so much **** for having a laggy UI with Sense. I was one of those who kind of hated on Sense and really dissed it. Now I have noticed TouchWiz has become the Sense of old. Bulky, laggy, and way too big for its own good. Kind of funny how the two companies have done a reversal. I used to purchase Samsung devices just to avoid the lag of Sense and other UIs. Every video review I have watched, the reviewer has complained of lag on the S4. For once I will actually stay with an HTC device until my next contract renewal. I feel it was done right. One thing that isnt fair though is that nobody seems to be giving Samsung the hard time HTC got about their overbloated UI overlay. What gives?
Oh, and the classic "The reviewer or people posting negative reviews and comments about the GS4 are paid by HTC" wtf, really? If someone doesnt like Samsung products they are assumed to be crazy and must be getting "paid off" to post negative comments? That's really unfair and childish of them to say. Anyone else noticing unfair biases?
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I noticed that as well. Sense 5 is smooth, man. I haven't had any lag, outside of me messing with governors and such, and I've read several reviews that say Touchwiz is kindof laggy. People aren't going to give Sammy any **** though because they are the top dog. While I'm glad they are android (for now) they are in the position that Apple was not long ago...nothing they can do is wrong even if it is. It's a little annoying
I actually really like sense 5
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My phone is bone stock, and will more than likely stay that way.
the only thing that seems odd to me in Sense 5 has been the lock screen..It kind of looks like its not meant for the current state it is in..It looks like it's set up and preparing for Android 4.2.1-2..Looks like they are preparing for lock screen widgets and I cant wait!
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the only thing that seems odd to me in Sense 5 has been the lock screen..It kind of looks like its not meant for the current state it is in..It looks like it's set up and preparing for Android 4.2.1-2..Looks like they are preparing for lock screen widgets and I cant wait!
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Good to see you over here, Brian. Nice getting to see some LTE around home now, huh?
eXplicit815 said:
My phone is bone stock, and will more than likely stay that way.
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Till fully working AOSP ROMs come out!
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Till fully working AOSP ROMs come out!
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Not necessarily. Sense 5 has started becoming a little more transparent, and show's a lot of stock Android in it. I'm happy with it.
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Till fully working AOSP ROMs come out!
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I like AOSP ROMs and all... but Sense 5 has some killer features that I wouldn't want to give up.
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Not necessarily. Sense 5 has started becoming a little more transparent, and show's a lot of stock Android in it. I'm happy with it.
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I like AOSP ROMs and all... but Sense 5 has some killer features that I wouldn't want to give up.
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I agree. I've always preferred Sense in any iteration.
but I know that once some AOSP ROMs come out I'll flash and play as I'm a flashaholic.
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I know that once some AOSP ROMs come out I'll flash and play as I'm a flashaholic.
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Well of course there will be some testing. I'll have to flash a few ROMs to see what each offers. I wouldn't mind checking out Paranoid Android on here. :good:
agreed, the only thing i want in sense is quick toggles! i used them all the time on my GS2. Luckily the mod is already out for this. That and the MMS compression fix. Other than that its pretty impressive out of the box.
But yea when will we start seeing AOSP stuff? I know the phone is only out for a wk or two but I'm looking forward to seeing the development section start to fill up.
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agreed, the only thing i want in sense is quick toggles! i used them all the time on my GS2. Luckily the mod is already out for this. That and the MMS compression fix. Other than that its pretty impressive out of the box.
But yea when will we start seeing AOSP stuff? I know the phone is only out for a wk or two but I'm looking forward to seeing the development section start to fill up.
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I believe there are people working behind the scenes on some AOSP stuff. One problem would be the new SoC Snapdragon 600. I don't think there is a reference device running android on this platform yet.
I'm really diggin sense 5 in general. Blinkfeed is awesome.. I always had a currents widget on my furthest left screen anyways.
One thing I dislike. Is that the app drawer still scrolls gingerbread style. I'd like it to be paginated.
And as for quick toggles like i've seen in a few posts. We don't want quick toggles! we just want the 4.2 update. Then it should be pull down on left 3/4 for notifications. Or the right 1/4 for the toggles that are just built into android now. The quick toggles of the past are pretty ugly in comparison.
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I'm really diggin sense 5 in general. Blinkfeed is awesome.. I always had a currents widget on my furthest left screen anyways.
One thing I dislike. Is that the app drawer still scrolls gingerbread style. I'd like it to be paginated.
And as for quick toggles like i've seen in a few posts. We don't want quick toggles! we just want the 4.2 update. Then it should be pull down on left 3/4 for notifications. Or the right 1/4 for the toggles that are just built into android now. The quick toggles of the past are pretty ugly in comparison.
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I guess by paginated you mean horizontal scroll instead of vertical. I too find this odd as Sense 4.0, 4.1, and 4+ all had horizontal app drawers.
I also like this, but what I have done is make folders and put the apps in there so I only have one page.
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agreed, the only thing i want in sense is quick toggles! i used them all the time on my GS2. Luckily the mod is already out for this. That and the MMS compression fix. Other than that its pretty impressive out of the box.
But yea when will we start seeing AOSP stuff? I know the phone is only out for a wk or two but I'm looking forward to seeing the development section start to fill up.
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Used to have it in Sense before it was even an Android thing. Best part of my EVO 3D.
This is the first phone I can say I may not even want to put an AOSP rom on.
Why don't the do landscape Rosie for Christ's sake?
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I guess by paginated you mean horizontal scroll instead of vertical. I too find this odd as Sense 4.0, 4.1, and 4+ all had horizontal app drawers.
I also like this, but what I have done is make folders and put the apps in there so I only have one page.
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The folders in the app drawer has been something I really like that I wouldn't have thought I would. Now I am down to 3 homepages instead of 5 or 7. Would be nice if they could hold more apps per folder but it still makes my app drawer so nicely organized.
msimindlessmsi2 said:
Why don't the do landscape Rosie for Christ's sake?
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Because eww.... No matter how cool it is, widgets and stuff just do not align very pretty. Surely you will get your fix with a custom rom.
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eXplicit815 said:
Good to see you over here, Brian. Nice getting to see some LTE around home now, huh?
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What's up man.. Yeah the tower down by froggers on rock springs road has some descent reach but it dies off right in front of my house.. When they light up this boom tower behind OK Tires I think we will be set around here.
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Hello
As you know the release of Samsung Galaxy S4 GE and HTC One GE offering the same flavour as Nexus users already have a taste for.
Do you think inclusion of the new type of camera app and various other features in these junks defeats the purpose of owning a Nexus? It is we who should get the update of even a minute bug squash or changes to any core app.
What would be the update cycle of these junk phones? Will the Android updates be prioritised for the Nexus or will it released for the junks together?
Sorry for being rude, as a loyal Nexus fan, I seriously hate these so called idiotic Google Edition.
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Hello
As you know the release of Samsung Galaxy S4 GE and HTC One GE offering the same flavour as Nexus users already have a taste for.
Do you think inclusion of the new type of camera app and various other features in these junks defeats the purpose of owning a Nexus? It is we who should get the update of even a minute big squash or changes to any core app.
What would be the update cycle of these junk phones? Will the Android updates be prioritised for the Nexus or will it released for the junks together?
Sorry if I was rude, being a loyal Nexus fan, I seriously hate these so called idiotic Google Edition.
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Well, this killed it for me
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...play-edition-one-or-s4-oems-will-handle-otas/
trentreed said:
Well, this killed it for me
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...play-edition-one-or-s4-oems-will-handle-otas/
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I'm right there with you buddy. The reason I love Nexus devices is, if something goes wrong I can flash the factory image and everything is good again. No factory image from Google = no go for me.
Edit: Before I start to see "HTC has the ruu and Samsung phones use Odin to flash back to stock". I don't like one click methods. I want to fastboot flash all the images one at a time so I can see what's going on.
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trentreed said:
Well, this killed it for me
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...play-edition-one-or-s4-oems-will-handle-otas/
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Bullseye!
Just wondering if you can flash sense/touchwiz to these phones.
LoVeRice said:
Just wondering if you can flash sense/touchwiz to these phones.
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Why would someone do that? Just get the regular version...
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lyall29 said:
I'm right there with you buddy. The reason I love Nexus devices is, if something goes wrong I can flash the factory image and everything is good again. No factory image from Google = no go for me.
Edit: Before I start to see "HTC has the ruu and Samsung phones use Odin to flash back to stock". I don't like one click methods. I want to fastboot flash all the images one at a time so I can see what's going on.
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Its the same thing... You can see it happening step by step and what's occurring during each step.. That's silly if you ask me..
What turns me off is the simple fact that they are fake nexus devices.. While we will get Google updates almost immediately, those devices still have to rely on HTC or Samsung remembering to keep their thumbs out of their asses..
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http://www.droid-life.com/2013/06/2...eive-updates-shortly-after-they-are-released/
trentreed said:
Well, this killed it for me
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...play-edition-one-or-s4-oems-will-handle-otas/
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I sound like a broken record saying this since day 1. The OEMs have to put their proprietary drivers and kernels (firmware) into the image or the software wont' know how to communicate with the hardware. I guess if the OEMs were willing to release them to Google then I guess Google could handle the updates. Then you have to ask: why would Google take on that responsibility? Would the OEMs openly give Google those drivers in a day and age where anyone can sue anyone over anything because something looks similar to something else? None of that makes sense.
Yeah I'm kinda dissapointed... I want the latest and greatest on my N4 but still don't have it... Hopefully it's just a matter of days... Hopefully hours....
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Its the same thing... You can see it happening step by step and what's occurring during each step.. That's silly if you ask me..
What turns me off is the simple fact that they are fake nexus devices.. While we will get Google updates almost immediately, those devices still have to rely on HTC or Samsung remembering to keep their thumbs out of their asses..
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One click methods are in no way "the same thing".
Edit: I'm not trying to start an argument here, its my personal preference. If you like one click methods then thats fine.
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Do you think inclusion of the new type of camera app and various other features in these junks defeats the purpose of owning a Nexus? It is we who should get the update of even a minute bug squash or changes to any core app.
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I don't understand what you are saying. What other "features" are you talking about? A red phase beam wallpaper? These phones haven't been released yet. My guess is the N4 will get those changes when 4.3 is released which may come before the GE phones are even released. Most likely lots of backend changes to the camera were needed to get it to work with the new driver hardware in the GE phones.
Once they launch will be the last time they have something the Nexus doesn't. The moment Google said that HTC/Samsung were responsible for updates and they weren't hosting/posting source means those phones will almost certainly be behind the Nexus.
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I don't understand what you are saying. What other "features" are you talking about? A red phase beam wallpaper? These phones haven't been released yet. My guess is the N4 will get those changes when 4.3 is released which may come before the GE phones are even released. Most likely lots of backend changes to the camera were needed to get it to work with the new driver hardware in the GE phones.
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That's the point, why are GEs getting the new camera app with new arc like settings and Nexus are left behind. Why is that "we" should wait for 4.3 and expect that the new camera would be included in that. It is a clear blow to the loyal Nexus owners who actually gets all updates to the Android first, even a small bug squash.
And talking about other features, I'm sure there would be some still hidden not available to the Nexus owners.
lyall29 said:
I'm right there with you buddy. The reason I love Nexus devices is, if something goes wrong I can flash the factory image and everything is good again. No factory image from Google = no go for me.
Edit: Before I start to see "HTC has the ruu and Samsung phones use Odin to flash back to stock". I don't like one click methods. I want to fastboot flash all the images one at a time so I can see what's going on.
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+1 Only Nexus reveal the real beauty of Android.
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That's the point, why are GEs getting the new camera app with new arc like settings and Nexus are left behind. Why is that "we" should wait for 4.3 and expect that the new camera would be included in that. It is a clear blow to the loyal Nexus owners who actually gets all updates to the Android first, even a small bug squash.
And talking about other features, I'm sure there would be some still hidden still not available to the Nexus owners.
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Oh boo-hoo. We'll get an update soon enough.
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El Daddy said:
Oh boo-hoo. We'll get an update soon enough.
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Hmm...wait and watch.
why are some people sooo sensitive, "my nexus should get this first" , "all others must wait" ...
look a little out of the box, these Google Edition phones are promoting stock android, whether they'll get updates parallel with the nexus or will join after a few days/weeks delay it doesn't matter. We all want more stock android options, and that's a step in the right direction, popularizing stock bloat-free android.
So, yeah, grow up and stop acting like samsung galaxy/iphone/etc.. blinded fanboys.
Can't believe you guys are complaining about a new camera app and live wallpaper. Nexus is just asop pure android 100% Google stuff... Doesn't mean Google owes us latest of the latest updates.
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That's the point, why are GEs getting the new camera app with new arc like settings and Nexus are left behind. Why is that "we" should wait for 4.3 and expect that the new camera would be included in that. It is a clear blow to the loyal Nexus owners who actually gets all updates to the Android first, even a small bug squash.
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How do you know the GE phones will get those features first? They haven't even been released yet? And they won't be in users hands until after July 9th.
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?can=2&start=0&num=100&q=&colspec=ID%20Type%20Status%20Owner%20Summary%20Stars&groupby=&sort=&id=62375
Having tried it on my Nexus 5 i cant see what all the fuss is about, yeah stuff opens a little quicker but its hardly life shattering.
wtf??
im using ART on my 2012 nexus 7 without issue. sure, a few apps donr work on ART(like pandora) but the device seems like it took a dose of speed. its fast without ART, but faster with. ART isnt available on the nexus 7(2012) stock img, but it is available for the nexus 7 on aosp builds.
MrBelter said:
Having tried it on my Nexus 5 i cant see what all the fuss is about, yeah stuff opens a little quicker but its hardly life shattering.
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I know that the reason it is not on here is because of I\O wear out on the flash memory.(Crappy chip)
This device can't handle the strain of ART.
I'm just a little irritated that google won't put it in the DEVELOPER!!!! options in there stock build.
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wtf??
im using ART on my 2012 nexus 7 without issue. sure, a few apps donr work on ART(like pandora) but the device seems like it took a dose of speed. its fast without ART, but faster with. ART isnt available on the nexus 7(2012) stock img, but it is available for the nexus 7 on aosp builds.
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I love that kernel
And thanks for the second link in your sig.
I dont want to load up another build though.
And geez. I would figure that google would put it in the for crying out loud developer options.
I like it completely stock.
I start from the ground up with modifying the build to my liking.
Thats why I'm a huge fan of Xposed Framework and the Arch Linux model.
Rant^
Why complain here? is anyone significant going read it.?
I think an explanation is what we need. Obviously it was a technical issue, but like every technical issue, Google leaves us in the dark and leaves us to speculate. I'd also like to know why we can't get a kernal higher than 3.1 when nvidia actually makes a 3.4 kernal too.
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Cor-master said:
I think an explanation is what we need. Obviously it was a technical issue, but like every technical issue, Google leaves us in the dark and leaves us to speculate. I'd also like to know why we can't get a kernal higher than 3.1 when nvidia actually makes a 3.4 kernal too.
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Then why post here? a developers forum of all places. if a problem if being had with google, go email em
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Then why post here? a developers forum of all places. if a problem if being had with google, go email em
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I really don't care that much. As far as I'm concerned my nexus 7 feels more like an antique these days and art or a new Kernal isn't going to magically make it a tegra 4 or give it another gig of ram. I was just replying to the topic that's all, wasn't my creation
More or less agreeing with the op. But I think he meant click on the original link and post your complaints there, not here
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