[Q] Sony Update Service - Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi, if I keep my Bootloader locked, does it mean I can always repair with SUS regardless of custom roms I am on?
New to the world of Sony..

Yes you can.
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scpion said:
Hi, if I keep my Bootloader locked, does it mean I can always repair with SUS regardless of custom roms I am on?
New to the world of Sony..
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I read that SUS refused to repair because stock apps were removed. So you should deactivate them instead of removing.
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Dreiundachzig said:
I read that SUS refused to repair because stock apps were removed. So you should deactivate them instead of removing.
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no, i think as long as it recognises official firmware (regardless of apps), it will reflash.
scpion said:
Hi, if I keep my Bootloader locked, does it mean I can always repair with SUS regardless of custom roms I am on?
New to the world of Sony..
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i think you need to unlock the bootloader to install custom roms, so technically if you keep the bootloader locked you'll always be able to repair.

Flashing a phone with a locked bootloader should always work as long as there are no extensive build.prop changes made.

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Xperia T/TX/TL firmware 9.1.A.0.489 certified

Hello!
PTCRB XperiaT/TX/TL Jelly Bean firmware incoming; firmware version 9.1.A.0.489 certified
31 Jan 2013
Very good news!
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Hello!
PTCRB XperiaT/TX/TL Jelly Bean firmware incoming; firmware version 9.1.A.0.489 certified
31 Jan 2013
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When is it coming ? Jan the 31st ....So today ?ok Not today but weeks later http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/01/3...oming-firmware-version-9-1-a-0-489-certified/ better late then never though I wouldn't expect never for such a new phone that would be just ridiculous
Just out of interest, when an FTF file becomes available, could you then flash it with flashtool on a stock ICS locked bootloader?
Judging by past firmware updates, it's taken 2/3 months for Orange to push an update.
Yes, or you could flash the 303 generic UK and ota to current. You'll then get jelly when Sony says not ee.
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SWFlyerUK said:
Just out of interest, when an FTF file becomes available, could you then flash it with flashtool on a stock ICS locked bootloader?
Judging by past firmware updates, it's taken 2/3 months for Orange to push an update.
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No u cant With locked bootloader flashtool cant do anything. Im also with locked T from Orange so I just hope they will do the job a bit faster
Maybe someone will finelly crack it :-/
kingstonxl said:
No u cant With locked bootloader flashtool cant do anything. Im also with locked T from Orange so I just hope they will do the job a bit faster
Maybe someone will finelly crack it :-/
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Or grow a pair and unlock your bootloader like a real XDA member.
kingstonxl said:
With locked bootloader flashtool cant do anything
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I wonder how I flashed my V with its locked bootloader to Xperia VL's firmware using Flashtool, then.
All you need is matching signatures, and all similar models share them.
Yes good news
kingstonxl said:
No u cant With locked bootloader flashtool cant do anything. Im also with locked T from Orange so I just hope they will do the job a bit faster
Maybe someone will finelly crack it :-/
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Sorry but you've got that wrong, you can use flashtool to flash an official ftf onto a phone with a locked bootloader, I've done it loads of times with my xperia's. In essence if your locked to a network orange, t-mobile ect then you can get the region generic ftf and flash it with flashtool to debrand your phone
What you can't do is flash custom ROMs which require a custom kernel.
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Thanks for the responses guys, I thought it would be possible, the only reason I ask is that I've flashed ICS firmwares to the T in the past, but wasn't sure with it being a different version of the OS.
Odp: Xperia T/TX/TL firmware 9.1.A.0.489 certified
del1701 said:
Sorry but you've got that wrong, you can use flashtool to flash an official ftf onto a phone with a locked bootloader, I've done it loads of times with my xperia's. In essence if your locked to a network orange, t-mobile ect then you can get the region generic ftf and flash it with flashtool to debrand your phone
What you can't do is flash custom ROMs which require a custom kernel.
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Fastboot doesn't work on locked bootloader.
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kingstonxl said:
Fastboot doesn't work on locked bootloader.
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Please read before continuing to facepalm yourself.
Flashtool does not require your bootloader to be unlocked. It also does not even you require your phone ot be rooted.
Flashtool can be used on any xperia phone regardless. It does not require fastboot
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gregbradley said:
Please read before continuing to facepalm yourself.
Flashtool does not require your bootloader to be unlocked. It also does not even you require your phone ot be rooted.
Flashtool can be used on any xperia phone regardless. It does not require fastboot
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Oh u r so smart wish I would.
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kingstonxl said:
Fastboot doesn't work on locked bootloader.
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And what does fastboot have to do with flashtool?
The original question was "Can an ftf be flashed with flashtool onto a phone with a locked bootloader" and the answer is yes.
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kingstonxl said:
No u cant With locked bootloader flashtool cant do anything. Im also with locked T from Orange so I just hope they will do the job a bit faster
Maybe someone will finelly crack it :-/
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kingstonxl said:
Fastboot doesn't work on locked bootloader.
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kingstonxl said:
Oh u r so smart wish I would.
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Well, without wishng to flame the situation I also wish you would because what you have said is garbage and incorrect. And its not like its anything technical, its the basics.....
travis82 said:
Or grow a pair and unlock your bootloader like a real XDA member.
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Wait...we have a bootloader unlock for TL on ATT?
So this is 4.1? I got the update in sony bridge, but updating means I lose my root right? (locked bootloader)
Yes when you update to different firmware you will lost the root privilege
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soncarl said:
Yes when you update to different firmware you will lost the root privilege
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Not always, there are ways around it. But in general yes.
Once the new firmware hits users with locked bootloaders we will see if we lose root, but then we will also find a way to root the newfirmware or find a way to update that does not lose root.

Sony Pc companion software update

Have just tried to run repair my phone through the sony pc companion. it detected my phone ok and downloaded the firmware. When it tried to install the firmware it failed saying my phone was running modified software and couldn't update. Is this because I unlocked my bootloader?
If it is, is their a way around the problem?
repoman_1966 said:
Have just tried to run repair my phone through the sony pc companion. it detected my phone ok and downloaded the firmware. When it tried to install the firmware it failed saying my phone was running modified software and couldn't update. Is this because I unlocked my bootloader?
If it is, is their a way around the problem?
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Once you unlock BL, Sony will stop bushing update to you and support.
Use flashtool to flash a stock firmware
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abd_alazeez2002 said:
Once you unlock BL, Sony will stop bushing update to you and support.
Use flashtool to flash a stock firmware
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Lame, but good to know, thanks
andes85 said:
Lame, but good to know, thanks
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It's not lame. It's warranty void
dvd777 said:
It's not lame. It's warranty void
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It is lame that you can't even get an update through PC companion to return to stock. I can understand not doing ota. I don't care about warranty on Sony stuff, their warranty process sucks
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andes85 said:
It is lame that you can't even get an update through PC companion to return to stock. I can understand not doing ota. I don't care about warranty on Sony stuff, their warranty process sucks
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I would dissagree. My XZ died (soft brick) and there was not any other way than service. Warranty covered it. They saw intact BL, they told me. If it wasn't, well...
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Have you tryit Sony's flashtool for unlocked bl
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[Q]Bootloader Unlock Allowed: No = forever stock Kernel?

Well means that simply that I can forget oc or uv my device as like using cm in my device?
And the way flashing a kernel via fastboot won't work for us?
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Forget about unlocking the bootloader, its not possible. No over/under-clock for you, no CyanogenMod or other goodies.
All carrier branded phones are locked and almost impossible to unlock.
cachanilla86 said:
Forget about unlocking the bootloader, its not possible. No over/under-clock for you, no CyanogenMod or other goodies.
All carrier branded phones are locked and almost impossible to unlock.
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No love for me
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Cruel world
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cachanilla86 said:
Forget about unlocking the bootloader, its not possible. No over/under-clock for you, no CyanogenMod or other goodies.
All carrier branded phones are locked and almost impossible to unlock.
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BTW.. Why cannot her over/under-clock the phone?
I have over/under clock with a locked BL. Ofcourse there is only somuch that you can and cant do. but still..
Silversniper said:
No love for me
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Silversniper said:
Cruel world
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Only thing I can recommend is to get a generic device instead of a carrier one.
No use lamenting about it here.
This message was sent so that I'm slightly more useful
cbarai said:
BTW.. Why cannot her over/under-clock the phone?
I have over/under clock with a locked BL. Ofcourse there is only somuch that you can and cant do. but still..
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How should overclock work, stock kernels are not able to be setted higher.
Under-clock is possible yes.
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i think so
i cant find any toos to unlock it,if u succeed,share with us pls
Silversniper said:
Well means that simply that I can forget oc or uv my device as like using cm in my device?
And the way flashing a kernel via fastboot won't work for us?
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Some people say that rooting solves the problem (XZ only?), some say unlocking the sim works
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Rooting changes nothing, sadly
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is there chance to have -Bootloader Unlock Allowed: No - when my phone is from shop ? ( not from carrier, not branded)
I think that it's not the matter of branded/not branded etc. beacuse I've seen bootloader unlock allowed: yes after I rooted and installed CWM and TWRP; today I've reverted rooting via SPC and the bootloader unlock allowed is back on: no; so I think someone has to look through it to see if you can override it...
Riodrian said:
I think that it's not the matter of branded/not branded etc. beacuse I've seen bootloader unlock allowed: yes after I rooted and installed CWM and TWRP; today I've reverted rooting via SPC and the bootloader unlock allowed is back on: no; so I think someone has to look through it to see if you can override it...
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I rooted and installed cwm/twrp but it's still saying No
Next i'll install generic C5303 firmware, as I am running on branded firmware! Have to do it tomorrow though because It's pretty late now
Nope
Silversniper said:
Well means that simply that I can forget oc or uv my device as like using cm in my device?
And the way flashing a kernel via fastboot won't work for us?
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I doubt the Sony bootloader will be cracked any time soon as the Xperia T was never cracked and thats a much older device.
Unfortunately that means no custom kernels/CyanogenMod.
If you buy a factory unlocked device the bootloader will be unlockable/carrier branded devices may be locked and not unlock able.. Pretty simple really.
Sorry that I can't help much.
Un-lock Xpeia SP
If you Un-lock the Xperia SP for all Networks, does this make bootloader Unlock available?
If not, any Ideas why?
Been answered many times before.
raziel123 said:
If you Un-lock the Xperia SP for all Networks, does this make bootloader Unlock available?
If not, any Ideas why?
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Nope. SIM-UNLOCK is separate to bootloader unlock.
It just doesn't.
On some old xperia phones you could open sim and bootloader like xperia arc if you used test point method to unlock sim it unlocked boot loader as well.
2013 xperia models that don't have removable battery are no longer able to use test point so you can't unlock boot loader or sim.
To unlock sim you need code which you cab buy from internet.
To unlock bootloader you need to contact your airtime provider and see if they will help in unlocking bootloader again this needs code but not freely available.
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Would unbranded firmware install fine on branded z1?

I have C6906 from Bell and i can't wait for bell to release 4.3
can i just flash unbranded 257 using flash tool
and use pc companion to update to 290?
my phone is not sim unlocked yet / never touched boot-loader / didn't even bother rooting it.
I am still on stock 534
thanks in advance guys
yes
As Greg already said - yes.
Branded version is same ROM but without a craps from your carrier.
So, not only you'll be able to flash it without any problems but you'll be very happy when you see that your phone is little bit faster and "cleaner".
Also, if you want to unlock SIM lock (if it's available on your device), you can do that by simple code order via Internet.
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gregbradley said:
yes
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funky0308 said:
As Greg already said - yes.
Branded version is same ROM but without a craps from your carrier.
So, not only you'll be able to flash it without any problems but you'll be very happy when you see that your phone is little bit faster and "cleaner".
Also, if you want to unlock SIM lock (if it's available on your device), you can do that by simple code order via Internet.
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Thanks guys!
I see few postings about problems upgrading such as losing imei or sim not accepting. since my z1 isnt rooted i wont be able to make any ta backups. Am i still clear to go?
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choihan06 said:
Thanks guys!
I see few postings about problems upgrading such as losing imei or sim not accepting. since my z1 isnt rooted i wont be able to make any ta backups. Am i still clear to go?
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yes
I started with an EE Z1. Since then it's been generic European, generic global, and currently on Generic Nordic (so I can have 4.3). You'll be.fine
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choihan06 said:
I have C6906 from Bell and i can't wait for bell to release 4.3
can i just flash unbranded 257 using flash tool
and use pc companion to update to 290?
my phone is not sim unlocked yet / never touched boot-loader / didn't even bother rooting it.
I am still on stock 534
thanks in advance guys
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I've got the same phone from bell. First thing I did was flash an unbranded ROM. Bell has a few bloat apps that I hate. Best part is if you flash unbranded you don;t need to wait for updates. I got my update through PC Companion the day it was released.
Search the forums please.
choihan06 said:
I have C6906 from Bell and i can't wait for bell to release 4.3
can i just flash unbranded 257 using flash tool
and use pc companion to update to 290?
my phone is not sim unlocked yet / never touched boot-loader / didn't even bother rooting it.
I am still on stock 534
thanks in advance guys
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Already been discussed here in detail.
Sony Xperia Z1 > Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting > Debrand xperia Z1?
I'm also on Bell with a c6906 and have done exactly what you are asking about and you will be fine. In case you didn't know we can't unlock our bootloader so the fix in 4.3 does not benefit us. Still 4.3 is a great update, loving the phone regardless.
metal_god69 said:
I'm also on Bell with a c6906 and have done exactly what you are asking about and you will be fine. In case you didn't know we can't unlock our bootloader so the fix in 4.3 does not benefit us. Still 4.3 is a great update, loving the phone regardless.
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arggg we can't unlock bootloader? then no custom kernels, recoverys and roms are available for our phone? man i should grab one from sony.. screw bell lol
choihan06 said:
arggg we can't unlock bootloader? then no custom kernels, recoverys and roms are available for our phone? man i should grab one from sony.. screw bell lol
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Copy *#*#7378423#*#* to your phone dialer and it will open up a service menu. Go to Service info then Configuration. The last line in that screen will say Boot loader unlocked allowed: No
So we are outta luck.
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metal_god69 said:
Copy *#*#7378423#*#* to your phone dialer and it will open up a service menu. Go to Service info then Configuration. The last line in that screen will say Boot loader unlocked allowed: No
So we are outta luck.
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I guess.. it says NO,
i guess I should have bought unlocked one from sony store..
choihan06 said:
Thanks guys!
I see few postings about problems upgrading such as losing imei or sim not accepting. since my z1 isnt rooted i wont be able to make any ta backups. Am i still clear to go?
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Losing IMEI and SIM not accepted problems happen when you downgrade, not update.

[HELP] Phone seems useless! (Bootloader?)

Hi Guys,
My C6603 is acting up like crazy, I have reset the phone using emma from Sony, so the stock rom is on it now.
But the phone is randomly turning off without using the charger, when the charger is attached, no problem at all, I can do anything, but without charger, I start the camera app and the phone turns off, cant turn on the phone anymore till I have attached the charger. When its loaded up, battery says 90%. Even after a night of charging it wont stay stable without the charger.
Does anyone can help me with this problem?
I have a unlocked bootloader, could that be the problem?
Thnx in advance.
In first hand, having locked or unlocked bootloader has nothing to do with your problem.
Most likely sounds as a ser software problem
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worf_1977 said:
In first hand, having locked or unlocked bootloader has nothing to do with your problem.
Most likely sounds as a ser software problem
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Thnx for your answer, I have been back to the store with my waranty, they think its a hardware problem and have send it away to Sony... so now we wait.
Hope that you restored TA partition, or they most likely claim it's your fault, not their's
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worf_1977 said:
Hope that you restored TA partition, or they most likely claim it's your fault, not their's
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Restore TA partition? Guess not, cause I have no clue what that means.
It is your actual warranty LOL.
If you are luck, they could not notice that the phone has it's bootloader tampered.
Sony states on developer.sonymobile.com that in some countries they do not accept unlocked phones into warranty
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http://unlockbootloader.sonymobile.com/
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worf_1977 said:
It is your actual warranty LOL.
If you are luck, they could not notice that the phone has it's bootloader tampered.
Sony states on developer.sonymobile.com that in some countries they do not accept unlocked phones into warranty
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But what does TA partition mean?
I have stock rom, stock kernel and a locked bootloader, but no clue what TA is...
JamesB009 said:
But what does TA partition mean?
I have stock rom, stock kernel and a locked bootloader, but no clue what TA is...
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In first post you said that you Were on an UNLOCKED bootloader, not LOCKED
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worf_1977 said:
In first post you said that you Were on an UNLOCKED bootloader, not LOCKED
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That is completly true, I WAS on a locked bootloader.
What I did today to try and fix it was locking the bootloader and using PCC to repair the phone, that worked, but still had the problems. So in the meantime I have locked to bootloader.
Sorry, but PCC doesn't touch the bootloader, so if you can flash with it, was in fact unlocked, and another thing is that software says...
Actually, PCC neither SEUS doesn't work with unlocked bootloaders, you have to flash an unlocked bootloader phone with Emma or Flashtool.
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Sorry, but PCC doesn't touch the bootloader, so if you can flash with it, was in fact unlocked, and another thing is that software says...
Actually, PCC neither SEUS doesn't work with unlocked bootloaders, you have to flash an unlocked bootloader phone with Emma or Flashtool.
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Not sure if I follow you.
I had a problem, I was on the unlocked bootloader at that time.
I have try to repair my phone with Emma, cause when I tried with PCC it said, cant do that cause of custom software. Emma did work and I reinstalled stock firmware. That didn't solve the problem, so I have locked my bootloader with flashtool and tried to recover the phone with PCC, at that time it did work, so the bootloader is locked again.
It did reinstall my phone, but still had the same problems. That is when I went back to the store.
Let's take one at a time.
Relocking bootloader with Flashtool doesn't restore the TA partition, wich on where your DRM Keys are stored. Unique for each unit.
You should have backed up the TA partition prior to unlock it.
You have them lost forever, and it is one thing that any service man would look for.
If they aren't present, means that you MAYBE installed custom software, and they can claim void your warranty.
Look for TA backup thread next time
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worf_1977 said:
Let's take one at a time.
Relocking bootloader with Flashtool doesn't restore the TA partition, wich on where your DRM Keys are stored. Unique for each unit.
You should have backed up the TA partition prior to unlock it.
You have them lost forever, and it is one thing that any service man would look for.
If they aren't present, means that you MAYBE installed custom software, and they can claim void your warranty.
Look for TA backup thread next time
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Ok, thnx. I had no idear about the TA, never heared of it and I think I didn't read about it when I unlocked the bootloader.
Anyway, lets hope they wont mind it...
We will see, thnx for the quick answers, much appriciated.
With luck if it indeed really is a harware fault, fuel gauge and so, it is thair fault, regardless wich software you have putted on it...
My fingers are crossed!
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worf_1977 said:
With luck if it indeed really is a harware fault, fuel gauge and so, it is thair fault, regardless wich software you have putted on it...
My fingers are crossed!
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They have repaired the phone. Got a new battery together with the back side obviously.
Phone seems to work perfectly now again.
Glad to read that!
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