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Just bought a brand new one in the box for 300 (dark grey). The build quality is much better than I expected. I have seen RAZR's before and was expecting almost exactly the same thing. This feels a looks much better. Screen is awesome as well.
I am currently rooting as I type this and then will begin to try and get CWM on the phone. After that I am going to try and build CM10 from source and get it to work on the phone. The last part will probably never happen as I am not a developer. I must try though right?
I just sold my Galaxy Nexus, Galaxy S3, and One X last night. They were all great phones but had their flaws. The Nexus was just becoming too slow to compete with the newer processors. It would make web browsing painful in comparison. The S3 felt like it was made by Play Skool and scratched anytime so much as paper brushed against it. The little silver trim ring was chipping too. Terrible. I also hated the fact that they went with hardware buttons. The One X was great until the matte finish started to wear off after 2 weeks. It started to become shiny and looked old very fast. Also dev support for that phone sucked because HTC kept pushing through updates to eliminate root. Was rooted with cm10 on all of them.
Hopefully this phone does the trick.
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Just bought a brand new one in the box for 300 (dark grey). The build quality is much better than I expected. I have seen RAZR's before and was expecting almost exactly the same thing. This feels a looks much better. Screen is awesome as well.
I am currently rooting as I type this and then will begin to try and get CWM on the phone. After that I am going to try and build CM10 from source and get it to work on the phone. The last part will probably never happen as I am not a developer. I must try though right?
I just sold my Galaxy Nexus, Galaxy S3, and One X last night. They were all great phones but had their flaws. The Nexus was just becoming too slow to compete with the newer processors. It would make web browsing painful in comparison. The S3 felt like it was made by Play Skool and scratched anytime so much as paper brushed against it. The little silver trim ring was chipping too. Terrible. I also hated the fact that they went with hardware buttons. The One X was great until the matte finish started to wear off after 2 weeks. It started to become shiny and looked old very fast. Also dev support for that phone sucked because HTC kept pushing through updates to eliminate root. Was rooted with cm10 on all of them.
Hopefully this phone does the trick.
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Good luck to you. I love this phone, but hate that I can't run ROMs on it. It has made me consider buying a new phone
But so far this phone is holding up well so I'd assume just keep it and wait and hope and dream and ponder and wait and cry waiting for someone to make a break through
Still, nothing will happen till the bootloader is locked.... right?
No there should be ways to work around it. Bootloader being unlocked would be awesome and a gift from god. Dont count on it though
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This phone is the only one which made me satisfied out of the box. Love the speed,screen and build quality. Hope there are some developers paying attention to AHD soon.
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huatz84 said:
This phone is the only one which made me satisfied out of the box. Love the speed,screen and build quality. Hope there are some developers paying attention to AHD soon.
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You're the first person that echoes my sentiment perfectly. My phone gets 5000 quadrant out the box! Where does that happen??
tiguy99 said:
You're the first person that echoes my sentiment perfectly. My phone gets 5000 quadrant out the box! Where does that happen??
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Yeah..I got above 5000 in quadrant test. Dualcore krait beats quadcore.
All we need to do now is patiently waiting. Some devs will hit us soon.
I will be attempting to learn, slowly but surely
I must say, now that I have the leaked jellybean rom, I'm almost not missing cm10. I'm getting excellent speeds, smoothness, and 4 hours of screen on time! Cm10 and other roms may come, but if they don't, I don't care!
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I must say, now that I have the leaked jellybean rom, I'm almost not missing cm10. I'm getting excellent speeds, smoothness, and 4 hours of screen on time! Cm10 and other roms may come, but if they don't, I don't care!
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Even with stock ICS,AHD feels smooth. Now with JB I can feel that this phone is blazingly faster and smoother in any other Android I have ever tested including my friend's SIII.
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Even with stock ICS,AHD feels smooth. Now with JB I can feel that this phone is blazingly faster and smoother in any other Android I have ever tested including my friend's SIII.
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My s3 with cm10 spanks this thing. But I had a kernel and there wasn't a single bloat item on the phone thanks to cm10. Either way this atrix is very very smooth and fast. I would not go back to a terrible build quality s3. The only other phone that beats this in my opinion is the RAZR HD. I'm working on getting one from Canada.
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My s3 with cm10 spanks this thing. But I had a kernel and there wasn't a single bloat item on the phone thanks to cm10. Either way this atrix is very very smooth and fast. I would not go back to a terrible build quality s3. The only other phone that beats this in my opinion is the RAZR HD. I'm working on getting one from Canada.
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For a stock ROM (yes talking about JB leaked update) this phone is untouched, strickly speaking about AT&T phones, not ones unlocked to work with AT&T.
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For a stock ROM (yes talking about JB leaked update) this phone is untouched, strickly speaking about AT&T phones, not ones unlocked to work with AT&T.
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Yea you're right. Now that i think about stock touchwiz or sense, thing this murders it.
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Yea you're right. Now that i think about stock touchwiz or sense, thing this murders it.
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that galaxy s3 is an awesome phone though wish I had enough money to have both
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that galaxy s3 is an awesome phone though wish I had enough money to have both
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Terrible build quality, not worth it.
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Terrible build quality, not worth it.
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See I have heard it is awful and I have also heard its great lol. Sony Xperia Ion looks sick also. SOO many phone I want and not enough money to buy them=me very sad
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See I have heard it is awful and I have also heard its great lol. Sony Xperia Ion looks sick also. SOO many phone I want and not enough money to buy them=me very sad
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I had the one X. The matte finish wore off after a month and when you lay it on a flat surface the speaker is completely covered and not a sound can escape. Also the camera bezel is plastic and not metal as it looks. Scratches very easily. And no memory card. What was I thinking?
I've had the S3. The back sracthed instantly and the silver bezel was chipping. God it was terrible.
The Optimus G has capacitive buttons which I can't stand. Also with the way the speaker is, it has the same problem as the one X, so no sound can be heard when it's laying flat. What a design flaw!
Nexus 4 has the SAME sound problem AND doesn't have expandable memory.
Note 2 is just a giant s3.
In my opinion there are only 2 gsm phones in the world right now and they are: the one I'm holding to type this. And the RAZR HD. In y opinion the RAZR HD Maxx can not be touched with a 10 foot pole at the moment.
Unibody aluminum frame
32gb storage
Kevlar back
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Expandable memory
3300mah battery!
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I had the one X. The matte finish wore off after a month and when you lay it on a flat surface the speaker is completely covered and not a sound can escape. Also the camera bezel is plastic and not metal as it looks. Scratches very easily. And no memory card. What was I thinking?
I've had the S3. The back sracthed instantly and the silver bezel was chipping. God it was terrible.
The Optimus G has capacitive buttons which I can't stand. Also with the way the speaker is, it has the same problem as the one X, so no sound can be heard when it's laying flat. What a design flaw!
Nexus 4 has the SAME sound problem AND doesn't have expandable memory.
Note 2 is just a giant s3.
In my opinion there are only 2 gsm phones in the world right now and they are: the one I'm holding to type this. And the RAZR HD. In y opinion the RAZR HD Maxx can not be touched with a 10 foot pole at the moment.
Unibody aluminum frame
32gb storage
Kevlar back
Amoled screen
No capacitive buttons
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Haha I looked into the one x, sg3, and this phone. The note is not a phone, it's stupid and a stupid idea. Atrix HD Maxx is the way to go lol.
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My s3 with cm10 spanks this thing. But I had a kernel and there wasn't a single bloat item on the phone thanks to cm10. Either way this atrix is very very smooth and fast. I would not go back to a terrible build quality s3. The only other phone that beats this in my opinion is the RAZR HD. I'm working on getting one from Canada.
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Yeah..CM10 rocks. I have it run on my D4 before.
Apart from the devs support,this phone definitely worths buying. You got a far better build than most of other high end Android out there.
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Yeah...razr hd looks and feels great...was in the store yesterday...but the display is far far away from the sharpness of the ahd?!
Colors and esp. white looks lot better on the ahd screen too..
This phone is a cracker!
The phones I have had before have come close to perfection. Last one being the s3 but never quite made the cut.
Everything just works perfect!
I've had the nexus 4 since Saturday and have yet to find a flaw.
User friendly is is an understatement.
Its like they have thought of everything.
All those folks over at the s3 forums laughing at us for selling up and getting the nexus will be swallowing their words after a few mins playing with this badboy.
Even the screen feels amazing. It just slides through your fingers.
Nicest phone I have ever felt and used.
So as you can tell, I am very happy
Peace
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This phone is a cracker!
The phones I have had before have come close to perfection. Last one being the s3 but never quite made the cut.
Everything just works perfect!
I've had the nexus 4 since Saturday and have yet to find a flaw.
User friendly is is an understatement.
Its like they have thought of everything.
All those folks over at the s3 forums laughing at us for selling up and getting the nexus will be swallowing their words after a few mins playing with this badboy.
Even the screen feels amazing. It just slides through your fingers.
Nicest phone I have ever felt and used.
So as you can tell, I am very happy
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Couldn't agree more.
This makes me want it even more, NAO! Hehe, mine is in transit with DHL, and I'm F5'ing the Tracking page all day long hopefully I'll receive it before the weekend!
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This makes me want it even more, NAO! Hehe, mine is in transit with DHL, and I'm F5'ing the Tracking page all day long hopefully I'll receive it before the weekend!
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I'm telling you man you'll love it
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thanks for this post. I feel the same way.
I'm coming from a situation where I'm with tmobile already, I have spotify and netflix and I don't need a removable battery I have chargers everywhere I go if needed (work, home, car), and I get about 20mbps down from HSPA+ which is on par with verizon's LTE when you're talking about real-world use. So for me the phone is perfect.
On top of that the phone is fast as hell, extremely responsive, the IPS panel is really good, I love the design on the back, its a lot classier then I though it was going to be. Holding the phone, the weight just feels right. Coming from an SGS 2 I love the notification light and the on-screen buttons really make it feel like an advanced phone.
Look I understand the phone is not for everybody and theres some compromises some people just arent willing to make. That being said, its a ****ing shame when tech hypochondriacs get a device then immediately hop on xda and make countless threads about how their phone sucks because there's a 1/4th of a mm gap between the micro sd card slot and the phone bezel.
I honestly couldn't be happier with the phone. Its just a beautiful device in all aspects, and coupled with a SANE price I don't think you can go wrong with it.
This is good to hear as mine's will be here this week.
I was one of the lucky first to get the 16GB Nexus 4. It's one of the best feeling Nexus. I think the Nexus one felt the best in hand, but it is too small now. I say now because at it's time, it was the perfect size.
I was never one to use the swipe keyboard for typing, but the Nexus 4 screen is so smooth that it makes gesture typing pleasurable. I now swipe all the time.
As for durability, I dropped my phone on a hard surface twice already because of how slippery the back is, but it held up just fine without any scratches. Multiple drops on carpet because my pillow is now a slippery surface.
As for software, I been using Android since the G1 launch, so since android 1.3. Back in the days when we had developers like Jesusfreak making rooted roms and custom recoveries for us. By far, the Nexus 4 makes android 4.2 the most liquid smooth version of android I have ever used, bar none! That 2GB of ram is just awesome. Apps stay in memory much longer. For my Galaxy Nexus, pages would have to reload when I switch back to Chrome browser, but not the Nexus 4. It's still there, ready and waiting for me.
I don't regret my purchase for this phone at all. Only nexus I had regretful feelings for was the Nexus S. Why? well that's another story.
The phone just does what it told! Doesny even argue wi ye!
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The phone just does what it told! Doesny even argue wi ye!
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Everything but autocorrect.
snowglyder said:
Everything but autocorrect.
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Perfectly correct Scottish...
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Swype beta works amazingly well on this smooth screen
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TonyHoyle said:
Perfectly correct Scottish...
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I see it now.
I'm glad to see this thread. Just finally got an order in this afternoon. Now to wait...
Had mine since the Friday of the week it was released & I have to say I love the feel of the device, The notification light is a godsend coming from the S2. I'm now getting used to the sensitivity of the screen, My S2 you could just hover over the screen & it'd click things. This needs a bit of a harder tap but nothing major.
I thought I'd miss the screen of the S2, It still impressed me up till the point of getting rid of it. Those colours! Even if they are over saturated looked fantastic when watching videos & playing games. But the sharpness of the N4 screen makes it brilliant to be honest. The colours are fine too now i'm used to it.
I echo you're statements OP I love this device.
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I was one of the lucky first to get the 16GB Nexus 4. It's one of the best feeling Nexus. I think the Nexus one felt the best in hand, but it is too small now. I say now because at it's time, it was the perfect size.
I was never one to use the swipe keyboard for typing, but the Nexus 4 screen is so smooth that it makes gesture typing pleasurable. I now swipe all the time.
As for durability, I dropped my phone on a hard surface twice already because of how slippery the back is, but it held up just fine without any scratches. Multiple drops on carpet because my pillow is now a slippery surface.
As for software, I been using Android since the G1 launch, so since android 1.3. Back in the days when we had developers like Jesusfreak making rooted roms and custom recoveries for us. By far, the Nexus 4 makes android 4.2 the most liquid smooth version of android I have ever used, bar none! That 2GB of ram is just awesome. Apps stay in memory much longer. For my Galaxy Nexus, pages would have to reload when I switch back to Chrome browser, but not the Nexus 4. It's still there, ready and waiting for me.
I don't regret my purchase for this phone at all. Only nexus I had regretful feelings for was the Nexus S. Why? well that's another story.
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Everything but autocorrect.
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Wan eh the first hings ye huv tae dae when yur Scottish is take that basturt autocorrect aff
Seems like every time a new nexus seems like in the first three months you can't say anything negative about the phone. It must be better than everything else or bust. Its like the phone you own defines you as a person. Seems like if you think something is bad about a nexus something is wrong with you and a lot you guys attack people who are actually in touch with reality.
Apple does not give a hot damn about a nexus and it laughable to think the number 1 phone maker on the planet is worried about us. The fact that some think they have a hidden smear campaign is just nuts.
The nexus 4 is an awesome phone but it has some flaws like everything else. You can lie to yourself to make your purchase feel better but facts are facts. Here are some of the negatives so people thinking of buying this phone can now what is true and to expect.
1. This phone is very fragile ( more than any other phone I owned ). Its glass front and back so expect to own a case and screen protectors. If this phone is gorilla glass its the crappiest I have ever seen or the weakest. All these guys saying they drop there phones and not even a mark, come on. Common sense you can look at this phone and tell any hard floor and a drop over 1 foot something is getting marked or cracked.
2. After you crack the front the screen stops working and the phone is pretty much junk might as well buy a new one. This is not an iPhone so replacement parts will be hard to find and cost will be high. I can crack an iPhone and for 30-40 bucks fix it myself. Good luck on this its the same as the nexus 7. Once cracked it is pretty much worthless.
3. Phone does get pretty warm if the screen is on for about 20 min even on auto brightness. I know its a thin phone but even with a case its hot in the back.
4. Screen colors are washed and LCD is not great. Not saying its bad but its not winning any awards. Put this next almost any other top phone and you will see why people say its washed. Yes you can adjust but you have to root and flash custom and a custom kernel for best results. Then its a little better but it will always be an LCD can't change that. Viewing angles no good and blacks are not deep blacks.
5. Battery life is just ok, some may even say bad. I am on custom ROMs so its a little better but around 4 hours on screen time on average.
There are a few other minor things but for the most part these are the flaws. I still suggest this phone because its cheap, its unlocked, super fast, stock android, and its sleek and sexy. I am not a troll spent over 2 grand ordering nexus 4's, probably donated hundreds of dollars to devs.
Post what you think the negatives are of this phone.
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Think you got most of them, though you forgot to mention the lack of usb otg. It would have been pretty useful, as it was on the Galaxy Nexus.
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Sorry I have to disagree.
I have no heating issues, the LCD is far superior than my HTC one x was, and I get consistently over 5 hours screen on time. Unbelievable if you ask me.
Yea USB otg...but I never use it so meh.
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Sorry I have to disagree.
I have no heating issues, the LCD is far superior than my HTC one x was, and I get consistently over 5 hours screen on time. Unbelievable if you ask me.
Yea USB otg...but I never use it so meh.
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And your stock right? I mean depending what you customize you can get 5 hours but a screen shot would help of proof. And the LCD I'm not saying is bad just not amazing. Its sharp but when I look at an amoled I start missing it again.
Yeah I didn't want to name the minor stuff, lots of people don't even know what USB otg is, could said lack of storage, yellow tint, no LTE, etc.
Main flaw is the whole scratch easy and breaks easy and don't break the front glass or it stops working. Has anyone found out why the nexus 7 and 4 have this problem. I am guessing its somewhere along the line of this how they got the cost down so much. After breaking a nexus 7 on carpet I kinda want Google to make the devices better builds or release some cheap parts to fix them.
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Sorry I have to disagree.
the LCD is far superior than my HTC one x was,
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Either you had a dud one x or a very special nexus 4.
My one x screen was waaaay better than my nexus 4.
And to the OP.
You forgot nexus 4 has a very average camera.
Troll.
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And your stock right? I mean depending what you customize you can get 5 hours but a screen shot would help of proof. And the LCD I'm not saying is bad just not amazing. Its sharp but when I look at an amoled I start missing it again.
Yeah I didn't want to name the minor stuff, lots of people don't even know what USB otg is, could said lack of storage, yellow tint, no LTE, etc.
Main flaw is the whole scratch easy and breaks easy and don't break the front glass or it stops working. Has anyone found out why the nexus 7 and 4 have this problem. I am guessing its somewhere along the line of this how they got the cost down so much. After breaking a nexus 7 on carpet I kinda want Google to make the devices better builds or release some cheap parts to fix them.
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Not too sure about the N7, but the N4 uses zero gap technology. I don't really remember the details but it's something along the lines of removing a layer from between the screen and digitizer so they can have a screen without a bezel.
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xchasa said:
Either you had a dud one x or a very special nexus 4.
My one x screen was waaaay better than my nexus 4.
And to the OP.
You forgot nexus 4 has a very average camera.
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I shoulda said one Xl...the lte one x. the screen was good...but not as accurate as my n4. plus whatever coating lg used on the n4 glass is miles ahead of whatever the hell HTC sprayed on the x.
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And your stock right? I mean depending what you customize you can get 5 hours but a screen shot would help of proof. And the LCD I'm not saying is bad just not amazing. Its sharp but when I look at an amoled I start missing it again.
Yeah I didn't want to name the minor stuff, lots of people don't even know what USB otg is, could said lack of storage, yellow tint, no LTE, etc.
Main flaw is the whole scratch easy and breaks easy and don't break the front glass or it stops working. Has anyone found out why the nexus 7 and 4 have this problem. I am guessing its somewhere along the line of this how they got the cost down so much. After breaking a nexus 7 on carpet I kinda want Google to make the devices better builds or release some cheap parts to fix them.
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I'm not stock now no... but when I was I still hit 5 hours screen time. custom ROM/kernel now just gets me about another 30mins on top of that.
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Then go buy an iPhone
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Then go buy an iPhone
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Yep knew this was coming, typical.
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when I got my nexus 4, I couldnt wait for it to come and try it out. i was coming from an htc one x. and no way in the world does the nexus 4 screen come close to the htc one x's. and my nexus 4 started having random shutoffs, heated up, battery was draining faster than i could charge. and the camera sucks on this phone. I got myself a note 2 its a solid device and I do miss the pure google experience, but tbh LG effed it up.
My biggest complaints:
-battery life is atrocious compared to my previous devices
-volume rocker gets hit a lot when pushing wake button one-handed
-google support, I feel like I was somewhat suckered into purchasing by having a Qi charging orb, miracast accessories, and the bumper dangled in front of me only to have them nonexistent, sold out and/or just plain silent when it comes to answers regarding future availability
-the flash on the camera needs to be toned down
-audio is pretty muffled when using speakerphone and phone is laying on it's back, thanks to speaker location
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I also have to disagree with the last three points
My phone only gets warm with intense CPU stuff (which is expected...)
I love the colors, and I can easily manipulate them to give richer, deeper colors through kernels and what not of I grow unhappy later
Battery for me is really good... 4+ screen in 18+ hours... On 3G with WiFi its 6+ in 20+
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when I got my nexus 4, I couldnt wait for it to come and try it out. i was coming from an htc one x. and no way in the world does the nexus 4 screen come close to the htc one x's. and my nexus 4 started having random shutoffs, heated up, battery was draining faster than i could charge. and the camera sucks on this phone. I got myself a note 2 its a solid device and I do miss the pure google experience, but tbh LG effed it up.
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Dont blame the phone, blame your brain
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I am not going to discuss the other points but, you are right, the phone is very fragile. Mine suffer a falling from about one meter which cracks the screen. In any case, the replacement by an official client service costs near 150€, transport included, so the complain about the components cost its not fair.
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Coming from S2 with stock rom / custom kernel
N4
NEG
- battery life is not that great during usage
- camera is not that great.. even compare to my s2 which is almost 2 years behind
- never drop it yet, but using a case so i dont think it would be that bad
- OOS !! at first i was planning to get a 8 gb.. but they only had the 16 gb instock .. total cost was $420 due to tax and shipping in Canada
@Fataldesaign what's the matter with you??
You've started at least 8 anti-nexus 4 thread in this forum, most of them which for locked. All of your thread are something negative.
I remember you ate the same guy from that thread where you started calling everyone your hater and all ... There's no need to start so many thread on the flaws of Nexus 4. One or two is OK.
Thread reported. Kindly do not make useless threads now.
I don't understand why people come in some phone's forum, and make a thread "faults of this phone". I mean, if you don't like this phone, at least don't turn those who spent money in getting the device against it? It may have its flaws, but we are OK with them. We don't need reminders about the bad things. I mean, constructive criticism is GOOD. But not pointless pointing out of flaws...
If you have complaints, kindly submit an error report to Google.
Hope you get my point.
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You guessed it, this is no different to all your other threads that have been closed. You like to complain and that's understandable but all these threads achieve is to troll and wind up other users so no real purpose to them.
Thanks again for your opinion but maybe try be more constructive with your next thread.
Thanks
AvRS
I have to say compared to most other tablets out there I'm suprised that such a powerful tablet has so little development compared to the previous versions of this device.. Why is that?
And there I was thinking I had done pretty well. :cyclops:
Probably lack of devs owning one I would guess. Tbh after the TF700 probably not a lot of people wanted to trust Asus again.....
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And there I was thinking I had done pretty well. :cyclops:
Probably lack of devs owning one I would guess. Tbh after the TF700 probably not a lot of people wanted to trust Asus again.....
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I'm glad you got one. Haven't had a chance to try your ROM yet, but couldn't live without it on my tf700 - I'm waiting to unlock mine until i get a dock and make sure I don't have any problems. My screen is loose in like 3 places so I'm on the fence about that too...
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And there I was thinking I had done pretty well. :cyclops:
Probably lack of devs owning one I would guess. Tbh after the TF700 probably not a lot of people wanted to trust Asus again.....
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Its good but I prefer Roms based on stock aosp with theme engines and custom animations, my note 2 has so many Roms to choose from
we got cm11, we got speedy CROMi-x what else you want?
you gonna flash different rom daily???????????????
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we got cm11, we got speedy CROMi-x what else you want?
you gonna flash different rom daily???????????????
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My understanding is that the cm11 ROM is a preview and not stable yet
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My understanding is that the cm11 ROM is a preview and not stable yet
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are you even unlocked and rooted and installed recovery. If you don't plan on to, i suggest return this and get N7 or G Pad if quantity is what you want
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Its good but I prefer Roms based on stock aosp with theme engines and custom animations, my note 2 has so many Roms to choose from
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Release date for Note 2 : Sept. 2012
Release date for TF701: Nov 2013
The stock rom is almost AOSP, but with some tweaks and customizations that dont degrade the experience with bloatware.
Personally I prefer a few stable Roms with awesome support like CromiX and CM.
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are you even unlocked and rooted and installed recovery. If you don't plan on to, i suggest return this and get N7 or G Pad if themes is what you want
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I was unlocked and was running sdbags ROM but when I turned off my tablet after installing that it never turned back on so I'm apprehensive to root and install again, wasn't sure if it was rooting or hardware failure, I got this tablet because its killer hardware and a great deal, which is why I'm surprised by the lack of Dev support I thought this tablet would be far more popular,
I kinda figured I wasn't going to risk rooting again until there was a solid aosp ROM out there similar to what I'm running on my note 2
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I was unlocked and was running sdbags ROM but when I turned off my tablet after installing that it never turned back on so I'm apprehensive to root and install again, wasn't sure if it was rooting or hardware failure, I got this tablet because its killer hardware and a great deal, which is why I'm surprised by the lack of Dev support I thought this tablet would be far more popular,
I kinda figured I wasn't going to risk rooting again until there was a solid aosp ROM out there similar to what I'm running on my note 2
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its because its not a huge jump for people coming from tf700
On my Droid 4 I have the choice between 5 or 6 roms and what am I running?
Modified stock... Why?
Because on each rom something is not working or buggy: keyboard or Bluetooth or docking support or auto rotation or......
Modding and tweaking the firmware designed for the specific hardware delivers by far the best results for me. But maybe that's just because I like things to work or I dislike to constantly troubleshoot essential functions.... Thank God for CROMi-X! That's all I need
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On my Droid 4 I have the choice between 5 or 6 roms and what am I running?
Modified stock... Why?
Because on each rom something is not working or buggy: keyboard or Bluetooth or docking support or auto rotation or......
Modding and tweaking the firmware designed for the specific hardware delivers by far the best results for me. But maybe that's just because I like things to work or I dislike to constantly troubleshoot essential functions.... Thank God for CROMi-X! That's all I need
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Well that is all due to the problems this tablet has with the dock connection and build quality of it.
I guess between 60 and 75 % of all delivered tablets with dock suffered from that problem. I had 4 and due to that have none anymore. Will look at it again when proven the problem has been solved but reading that 2013.11 tablets still have the problem it is still a no go.
So many did send it back and went for another brand due to the fact that Asus sucks with officially acknowledging this problem.
Many times I was in contact directly with Asus in the Netherlands and they told me that they knew about the problem but Headoffice of Asus ignored it.
So guess what others users with this problem did with it........
Next to that in most countries in Europe you can only buy the combo with dock so no escape ordering only the tablet.
Result: not enough participation from users and no interests from dev's except Sbdags of course!!
The simple reason is this tablet doesn't sell well. Its look is kinda dated, it's thick bezel, heavy, short battery. The strength of having a dock got tarnished by poor build quality of the dock. I got mine for $350 after rebate from tiger direct. I'm willing to overlook the short comings and focus on the awesome screen, the crazy fast Cpu, near stock android 4.3. I just hope KitKat will come. I don't care if there are custom ROMs. It is what it is.
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The simple reason is this tablet doesn't sell well. Its look is kinda dated, it's thick bezel, heavy, short battery. The strength of having a dock got tarnished by poor build quality of the dock. I got mine for $350 after rebate from tiger direct. I'm willing to overlook the short comings and focus on the awesome screen, the crazy fast Cpu, near stock android 4.3. I just hope KitKat will come. I don't care if there are custom ROMs. It is what it is.
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I wouldn't say it necessarily looked dated.
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I wouldn't say it necessarily looked dated.
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I actually like the bezel, makes sure you can get a good grip on it with out accidentally touching the screen
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I actually like the bezel, makes sure you can get a good grip on it with out accidentally touching the screen
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Me too. Device doesn't look dated at all IMO. Screen is gorgeous and that is what you use it for.
Another factor is whenever a tegra SoC gets mentioned on any sort of tech website it seems like there is always someone willing to say how much tegras suck a few dozen times. That can't be good for sales, as a lot of people do base their purchases off of the word of mouth surrounding the product.
For what they are, and what the competition offers, they really aren't a bad chip set at all, but a lot of people apparently feel burnt by the Tegra 3 based off the Tf700 and 300s, but that was more or less just the terrible I/O performance issues that should be blamed.
I agree with all of it. Asus is my choice of PC gear although my acer A500 never failed me. it just didnt have neon with the tegra 2. gave it to a buddy and its still kickin. now before this one i bummed my wifes old Transformer Prime TF201. Now that thing was garbage. This one is amazing. I would use a cardboard box as long as it ran like this and i could root it...the unlock bootloader tool is prime example of why I stick with Asus..they still have some linux left in em.
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Every device thats new has issues to sort out.
Its was released in November. The gaming on this is fantastic. Just give DeadTrigger 2 a try. Crazy console qualifty gaming. More devs will come along. This Device is about double What the tf101 was. Considering the price. You get 32gb storage,High resolution, High performance tegra 4. Sound is fine. I think it might take a while but its the device to buy unless your going proprietary or want to shell out more cash and get less.
WARNING: Some screen protectors have rubbery surfaces not suitable for a stylus(ZAGG,Skinomi). RUBBER on RUBBER!
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You can play NFSMW like you never saw it before. High quality reflections, dynamic lighting. Not what you would expect really. If you underclock it. You probably get that same quality and hardly notice anything. Would just run a bit cooler.
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I don't mean to pick on you specifically, but it always cracks me up to see critiques of tablets and the like when they mention appearance. Even CNet reviewers will write a paragraph or two about the product's appearance. Seriously?! It doesn't match your shoes, so you don't want to be seen using it?! How very superficially Apple of them.
Hey guys, I got the M8 last Thursday but am not totally convinced that it is the phone for me yet. I have some gripes with it, but overall I like the phone. First I have two questions about the S5, and then I will post the gripes that I have with the M8 that I posted in the M8 forum. After that, let me know what you think. Here are my two questions about the S5:
1. Will the Touchwiz lag from the S4 be gone? I was always a Samsung phone guy, but I just couldn't deal with the lag on the S4. It drove me absolutely nuts. I'm hearing some rumblings that the new UI on the S5 is free of lag? Has anybody played with the phone yet and can chime in on this?
2. I know the speaker won't sound as good as the stereo speakers on the M8, but will it at least be as loud? That's all I care about, I don't care about the quality. I will use headphones most of the time, but I want it to be loud enough for notifications, etc.
Ok, now on to my gripes about the M8 that I posted earlier in the M8 forum:
1. After all the constant "excellent build quality" praise that the M7 and now M8 constantly get, I really just don't see it. Based on materials alone, yes, the M7 and M8 are excellent in materials. In actual build quality, they are both quite poor in my opinion. Both of my M7's from last year had screen fitment issues where they weren't flush with the top and bottom speaker grills. It annoyed the heck out of my OCD self and was one of the few reasons why I returned them both.
My M8 has a very similar issue. On the right side of the phone, the top and bottom speaker grills are raised above the glass. So my finger snags when I'm swiping up or down on the screen. Super annoying and I'm going to exchange it for sure, if I even keep this phone in general.
2. The LED notification light....if you can call it one. Is HTC the only smartphone manufacturer that doesn't understand the importance and desire from consumers to have a bright, legible and multi-colored LED notification light? The one on the M7 and now M8 is pathetic. Might as well not even have one. It is the size of a pinhole, can only show green or amber, and it is next to useless.
To HTC's credit, the one on the M8 does seem to be a bit more visible than it was on the M7, but it could be in my head. And also keep in mind that I knew exactly what I was getting into when I bought the M8, so it's my own fault with this issue. I still wanted to mention it however as it still bothers me.
3. The camera. I will keep this one short as there is constant discussion about it and people have varying opinions. My opinion is that it's lackluster, and I never thought I would say my Nexus 5 camera is better than a premium flagship phone. But it is, and I will leave it at that.
And once again, I knew what I was getting into before I purchased the M8, but I fell for HTC's duo camera marketing thinking it might somehow make 4mp's better than 4mp's. It didn't and I'm disappointed for the most part.
4. Software....I don't know what it is, but Sense 6 feels cold and empty to me. Coming from the Nexus 5, I know this might sound like a bizarre statement, but something feels off and I can't quite pinpoint it. It feels, dare I say, boring. Yes it is fast and smooth, I will give it that. But that's about where it ends for me.
I also can't wrap my head around HTC still not addressing their messaging app oddity. On the M7, when you got a new text message and opened the app, the new message wouldn't immediately appear and it would refresh quickly and then it would show up. I don't know about anyone else, but that is super duper annoying to me. And it's sadly still present on the M8.
Some might say, "use Hangouts or a 3rd party app". And I would say "nope". I hate how Hangouts handles SMS and MMS and I don't like to use 3rd party apps for text messaging. Just personal preference.
5. The physical aspect of the phone itself....it's just too tall. I understand they had to cram amps, a bigger battery, etc into the phone. But almost as tall as the Note 3? Come on. The phone feels good in the hand however, but it's just a little cumbersome. And I still hate the top of phone power button placement even thought they moved it from the left side to right.
After all of that being said, do you think the S5 is the device for me? I'm in quite a dilemma because my 14 day return policy of the M8 expires on the say that the S5 starts shipping. So I kinda need to make a decision blind unless I can get my hands on an S5 to test before then.
Thoughts? Thanks!
1. Yes. 110% gone. Dalvik to Dalvik as smooth as the stock Nexus 5.
2. It's pretty loud, sufficient enough for me when I tested it.
What area are you in? Most AT&T stores and some best buys have the S5 on display. Oh, and I'd for sure recommend the S5
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1. Yes. 110% gone. Dalvik to Dalvik as smooth as the stock Nexus 5.
2. It's pretty loud, sufficient enough for me when I tested it.
What area are you in? Most AT&T stores and some best buys have the S5 on display. Oh, and I'd for sure recommend the S5
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That's great to hear! I'm in San Diego, CA.
What about the lack Of a hardware menu button? I think it's a pain having to stretch all the way to the top right of the huge screen to get to the soft menu button.
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tl;dr what's up man? hahaha I'm gonna get an s5..and you know how I am about lag. from what I'm reading, she seems so much more lag free than the s4.
you might as well get it since I am and we both seem to follow eachother
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What about the lack Of a hardware menu button? I think it's a pain having to stretch all the way to the top right of the huge screen to get to the soft menu button.
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M8 doesn't have an on screen menu button... But with either phone I'm sure you could change functionality if you rooted. I'm happy with a multitasking button instead of menu though. It's not too hard to reach the top for me.
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I had the same feelings about the M8. I had actually gone to Verizon planning to buy it, but was disappointed with the phone hands on. The phone obviously looks great, but it's got some issues otherwise. It was sitting next to a G2, which actually looked much nicer in terms of the screen, and smaller bezels. The camera got terrible reviews, and as someone who doesn't listen to music from phone speakers the large speakers at the top and bottom of the phone were unsightly and make it seem longer than necessary. I also didn't like the software, and particularly the navigation bar, it felt uncomfortable to use. As a Verizon user, I also want bootloader access which is particularly tough to come by with HTC.
I haven't gone hands on with the S5 yet, but I consider the S4 to be superior to the M8...So I hope to be pleased.
S5 is miles ahead of the S4 IMO. I used it and was VERY impressed. DisplayMate said it was the best screen they'd ever seen on any smartphone.
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outlasts the note 3
BoneXDA said:
outlasts the note 3
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+1
to me this is a main selling feature.
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to me this is a main selling feature.
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Yeah the fact that this phone with a smaller battery can outlast the Note is insane! Even with a much brighter screen!
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Yeah the fact that this phone with a smaller battery can outlast the Note is insane! Even with a much brighter screen!
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Really shows how much software optimization can do!
Touchwiz really has evolved
TouchWiz has evolved as much as AMOLED displays have XD
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Hey WizeGuyDezignz, hello from a fellow San Diegan.
I am in a similar position to you.
Either of these phones will be a quantum leap from my HTC Vivid.
Having owned HTC phones for years I really want to like the the new One.
Not having handled one, I still think that it's awkward size will bug me as will the lack luster camera (not that I usually need 16MP but it's nice to know it's there in case you do).
Things that don't having me rushing to get the S5 are
1. Touchwiz is unknown to me
2. Linked to 1. the fact that there is the Knox issue as far as rooting is concerned.
3. I think the dust cover over the charge port could be a weak point and would drive me crazy having to fiddle with it to get access every day. Specially seeing that regardless of which phone I get they will be protected by a case-mate tough case which has been outstanding for me on my Vivid.
I look forward to more hands on reviews once the S5 starts selling here.
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Hey WizeGuyDezignz, hello from a fellow San Diegan.
I am in a similar position to you.
Either of these phones will be a quantum leap from my HTC Vivid.
Having owned HTC phones for years I really want to like the the new One.
Not having handled one, I still think that it's awkward size will bug me as will the lack luster camera (not that I usually need 16MP but it's nice to know it's there in case you do).
Things that don't having me rushing to get the S5 are
1. Touchwiz is unknown to me
2. Linked to 1. the fact that there is the Knox issue as far as rooting is concerned.
3. I think the dust cover over the charge port could be a weak point and would drive me crazy having to fiddle with it to get access every day. Specially seeing that regardless of which phone I get they will be protected by a case-mate tough case which has been outstanding for me on my Vivid.
I look forward to more hands on reviews once the S5 starts selling here.
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I will 110% get the wireless charging backplate/charger from Best Buy (I'd recommend it to anyone getting this phone ).
Also, the new TouchWiz is quite intuitive IMO. It's very simple and you should have no issues picking it up.
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I will 110% get the wireless charging backplate/charger from Best Buy (I'd recommend it to anyone getting this phone ).
Also, the new TouchWiz is quite intuitive IMO. It's very simple and you should have no issues picking it up.
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The inductive charging is a great idea but I am sure it wont work through a protective cover.
Oh yeah with a case it's unlikely to work, unless you get a wireless charging capable case. I go naked on my phones, so it's no big deal
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TouchWiz has evolved as much as AMOLED displays have XD
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http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_S5_ShootOut_1.htm
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That would be a lot [emoji16]
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http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_S5_ShootOut_1.htm
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That would be a lot [emoji16]
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I read that and I was very impressed with the screen specs!
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I read that and I was very impressed with the screen specs!
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S5 may have improved upon s4's display, but I am waiting for a comparison between S5 and Z2's display.
From what i have read Z2 has a better display than M8.
So yeah i am still waiting for that[emoji6]
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