[Q] This can not be right? - Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Can this be correct...if so my phone is awful 0.o 80% battery...all power saving modes turned on, Screen at 40% and such a poor standby time?

That is a pure software guess based on your recent usage pattern. It'll get better after a few cycles.
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hmmm ok thanks, still i would think it would be better, the phone only really gets used for calls/sms and facebook.

Yeah the software estimate is full of it. And the stamina mode doesn't make much difference if you don't use a lot of apps so I stopped using it.
And the battery will get better after a few cycle.

xsilverdicex said:
Can this be correct...if so my phone is awful 0.o 80% battery...all power saving modes turned on, Screen at 40% and such a poor standby time?
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In the end it doesn't matter what it says, it's just an estimate.
Would it make you happier if it said 348073469788 hours, but shutdown after just 34h. Or would it make you happier if it showed 10h and shutdown after 30h
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2116920
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[Q] Battery Life

Last friday purchased HTC Incredible S, since I'm kinda hardcore user of phones (previously had old crap Samsung Tocco Lite - was surfing on internet + listening music, without problem could survive 10-12hrs nonstop use), now when I tried same with Incredible S, it end up that after 2-3 hrs of surfing + some app using for awhile, I ended up at 30-35% from 100%. I did turned all syncs off, brightness to minimums, turned of almost everything and all tasks, so it was just like test for how long surviving it with no internet(wifi/mobile),any sync, any sound/vibration and low brightness - it survived 1 hour longer then before. Like srsly 400£ worth phone with battery what can't hold even 6 hrs?
P.S. first try with apps and such was record for 4 hrs, next test without any apps etc etc survied 5 hrs...
The battery gets better in time.
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prinzhernan said:
The battery gets better in time.
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I see that you have Incredible too, how long your battery lasts when using atleast 2h of app/call/internet usage?
same here, I need to keep charging it. maybe upgrading the kernel and rom helps.
prinzhernan said:
The battery gets better in time.
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I'm seeing this aswell. The more i use my phone the better the battery gets.
my battery does last 1day 12-15hr. All sync on, mobile networks on, background sync on. Normal use, that is incredible.
well when i first got my IS, the battery life is ridiculously short, from 100% -> 20% in 2 hrs of intense use!
But the battery life is getting better at day 3 (around 5x full charge cycle), do the calibration thing, use till 1%, but make sure phone is not dead, and recharge to 100%, redo for like 5 times.
If battery life still sucks, i think you get a bad battery
My battery lasts 9 hours of intense use (Wifi,3G,Games,Surf net,Listen to music)
Hello
I have installed Battery Monitor Widget Pro to check battery consumption. You can see so which are the applications that drain more your battery, tipically the display.
My battery runs one full day, even one and half with Wifi and BT always ON and normal telephone usage but if I switch on 3G it decrease rapidly and sometimes cannot reach one full day.
So in my case the 3G connection drains a lot.
Stefano
I've had mine since late april and I get a whole day, at least, out of it. Yesterday, I actually went 24 hours without charging it and I still had 30% left. The only "syncs" that are on, are my gmail, weather and Whatsapp. I can definitely confirm it gets better with time!
has anyone ordered from Amazon.Co.Uk, I was wondering if they can refund for phone, so I can take instead HTC Sensation :/
Anyways, I got this phone like 3-4 days ago, now I'm trying to maximally drain it with apps/games to get that battery life up
sense drains your battery...
and also 3g drains it if you have a unstable connection
what i allways do is out of the box, drain it 100%
charge it 100%
drain it 100%
charge it 100% and your done...
might be a ghost story, but surely seems to work for me, however 12hours and mine is empty as fk, with gaming, bad 3g connection, wifi, gtalk etc.etc. aka daily usage..
but thats cuz im running cyanogenmod, which isnt 100% stable yet
Do people not read anything these days? You're complaining about battery life of a smart phone... None of them last longer than a day or two max. Not to mention it's a new toy and you can find yourself on it more often. Checking the battery constantly kills your battery. Tones of widgets kill your battery.
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I do understand about 1-2 days of uptime for phone is ok, but mine doesn't survive even 6h +_+ , contacted HTC and they said that battery is fauly.
ANyways... I dont use widgets and actually turned of all sync and stuff like that to prevent battery drain, even in airplane mode, it drains from 40 to 5% (to complete dead) in about 1-2 hrs
I find battery life pretty poor. After charging to 100%, it can be down to 90% within half an hour - without really even using the phone. I can turn on the phone at 7am, and it will be down to between 50 and 40% by 11pm, never normally enough to get through the next day.
I'm going to try some overclocking to see if that helps.
DJjay18 said:
I find battery life pretty poor. After charging to 100%, it can be down to 90% within half an hour - without really even using the phone. I can turn on the phone at 7am, and it will be down to between 50 and 40% by 11pm, never normally enough to get through the next day.
I'm going to try some overclocking to see if that helps.
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Overclocking will drain even more battery, downgrade better speed of it and it should save battery
I've found that for the first few weeks of having the phone, the battery life will be crap... cause you're generally always messing around with it.
Lately I've been getting two work days out of a charge (6am to ~6pm the next day). I rooted the phone, uninstalled a bunch of bloatware, and set it to underclock when the screen is off (although I'm having issues with that one at the moment).
I'm thinking to buy other phone instead of this (amazon is accepting this for refund/replacement now), so I was thinking if it's worth take Sensation instead of Incredible S?

Battery use

Can somebody help me out here? My battery life is really bad, today I lost about 10% battery indicator 4 hours with the phone lying in my pocket! When I use the phone its even worse. I am on cm7 nightly 09302011, and it seems like everyone brags about the battery life, just not me. 3g always on, bluetooth off, background data on, autosync off, no live wallpaper and å clock widget. What could be wrong?
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Are you using a custom Kernel? Since installing the NeoBlaze kernel my phone has started using power on idle.. last night it used 40% charge while completely idle and not in use..
I don't really care because I carry 2 batteries around with me at all times, but it does seem changing around roms/kernels messes with battery life. Perhaps you just need to hit up eBay, batteries can be had for $2.80 shipped.
Without Juicedefender, 10% in 4 hours with no use is actually pretty good for this phone.. I'm jealous. I get that kind of battery life with data OFF most of the time.
No custom kernel. Thought I read in the forum that ppl got like 3% loss overnight. Maybe thats without data...
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get widgetsoid and turn your data on and off (and 2g/3g) on and off quick and easy.
who on earth needs data running over night anyway ?
same as watching full hd videos on 480x800 screen..... thats just dumb
tronderbataljon said:
3g always on
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I think this would explain why
I guess 3g is the sinner. Installed JUiceDefender and went from 11h to 32h battery life.
Not sure what happened to my phone, I'm getting 4 hours off a charge now with relatively light use.. just some web browsing and screen off idle half the time.. Going to try topogigi rom and see what happens.
Me too
Mungulz said:
Not sure what happened to my phone, I'm getting 4 hours off a charge now with relatively light use.. just some web browsing and screen off idle half the time.. Going to try topogigi rom and see what happens.
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Im on topogigi 2.0 sp1 and have the same problem ... I calibrated but.... the improvement was pretty low, I was thinking that my hardware was broke or some untill see your post and others arround the forum, seems to be a fu..$%#$ misterious this stuff!

[Q] Battery drainage

this battery drainage seems to be a big problem with HTC one, is it really as bad as people/users are saying?
if the drain is that bad on the standby should i withhold getting HTC one? im out of the house for more than 14 hrs per day and a juiced up phone is what i need!
GS4 or ONE?
please advise
Kartikp84 said:
this battery drainage seems to be a big problem with HTC one, is it really as bad as people/users are saying?
if the drain is that bad on the standby should i withhold getting HTC one? im out of the house for more than 14 hrs per day and a juiced up phone is what i need!
GS4 or ONE?
please advise
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Actually the battery isn't a problem at all with the One! It is way above average for todays smartphones (not counting in the Note II)
You will generally get 6h of screen time with "xda-user" (most likely higher usage then the average consumer) which is amazing.
I leave the house at 7am and come home at around 10pm, that is 15 hours and the One has been holding up great!
I can't see the GS4 being any better. AMOLED + bigger screen = more power consumption (you need higher brightness etc.).. and in my eyes the One is the better phone over all too... so my advice is to get a One and you will be really really happy!
You may still want to invest 40$ in a portable external battery so you can charge your phone on the go .. just in case
voltron2k11 said:
Actually the battery isn't a problem at all with the One! It is way above average for todays smartphones (not counting in the Note II)
You will generally get 6h of screen time with "xda-user" (most likely higher usage then the average consumer) which is amazing.
I leave the house at 7am and come home at around 10pm, that is 15 hours and the One has been holding up great!
I can't see the GS4 being any better. AMOLED + bigger screen = more power consumption (you need higher brightness etc.).. and in my eyes the One is the better phone over all too... so my advice is to get a One and you will be really really happy!
You may still want to invest 40$ in a portable external battery so you can charge your phone on the go .. just in case
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Wait for GS4 Exynos OCTA performance tests to decide.
Maybe the OCTA will be more power-friendly.
Nevertheless, AMOLED 5'' screen of the GS4 seems to be better than the HTC One's . Even the brightness is not an issue anymore cause the new AMOLED is seen better on sunlight than the SLCD3! It suprised me cause the S3 was bad on sunlight. Source: http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s4_vs_htc_one-review-913p3.php
voltron2k11 said:
Actually the battery isn't a problem at all with the One! It is way above average for todays smartphones (not counting in the Note II)
You will generally get 6h of screen time with "xda-user" (most likely higher usage then the average consumer) which is amazing.
I leave the house at 7am and come home at around 10pm, that is 15 hours and the One has been holding up great!
I can't see the GS4 being any better. AMOLED + bigger screen = more power consumption (you need higher brightness etc.).. and in my eyes the One is the better phone over all too... so my advice is to get a One and you will be really really happy!
You may still want to invest 40$ in a portable external battery so you can charge your phone on the go .. just in case
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Thank you, but was the incremental loss of battery while it's on standby?? I even gsmarena says that the standby time is pretty horrible..
Kartikp84 said:
Thank you, but was the incremental loss of battery while it's on standby?? I even gsmarena says that the standby time is pretty horrible..
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Just looked at my phone after leaving it on overnight for 8hrs to see a 4% drain, now I'm no expert but that seems pretty darn good to me.
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SmokyM79 said:
Just looked at my phone after leaving it on overnight for 8hrs to see a 4% drain, now I'm no expert but that seems pretty darn good to me.
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Is that with wifi/data on, receiving all the notifications??
Screenshot for the battery drain please?
Thnx given
I still have my 2011 HTC Phone here with 1500mAh battery and I get like 0 to 1% battery drain overnight.
Although I know someone there who get results like this with HTC One so the device is not an issue. Just trying to say that SmokyM79 might have wakelock issues there.
SmokyM79 said:
Just looked at my phone after leaving it on overnight for 8hrs to see a 4% drain, now I'm no expert but that seems pretty darn good to me.
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Didn't manually turn any data off the one has sleep mode which turns off data after long periods of inactivity, I have that checked, as for wakelock I'm comfortable with 4%.
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Kartikp84 said:
this battery drainage seems to be a big problem with HTC one, is it really as bad as people/users are saying?
if the drain is that bad on the standby should i withhold getting HTC one? im out of the house for more than 14 hrs per day and a juiced up phone is what i need!
GS4 or ONE?
please advise
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The One gets better battery life than the GS4. Rogue apps holding wakelocks won't help either way.
On the related subject of monitoring battery consumption, I have used battery monitor widget since I owned my first Android phone , a Desire HD, however it doesn't measure current correctly on my One.
Does anyone have a recomendation for an app that currently supports the HTC One ?
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Charging battery

I've been wondering this for a while but can't find much on the web. I was wondering if charging my battery when it's not completely dead will ruin battery efficiency? If for instance my phone is 30% and I'm going to need it for the night is it fine to charge it without the worry of damaging the battery. I'd assume our phones are advanced enough it wouldnt matter but figured I'd ask
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mlese92 said:
I've been wondering this for a while but can't find much on the web. I was wondering if charging my battery when it's not completely dead will ruin battery efficiency? If for instance my phone is 30% and I'm going to need it for the night is it fine to charge it without the worry of damaging the battery. I'd assume our phones are advanced enough it wouldnt matter but figured I'd ask
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Yes, you will be fine. I cant even run my phone out anymore.
Charge away!
mlese92 said:
I've been wondering this for a while but can't find much on the web. I was wondering if charging my battery when it's not completely dead will ruin battery efficiency? If for instance my phone is 30% and I'm going to need it for the night is it fine to charge it without the worry of damaging the battery. I'd assume our phones are advanced enough it wouldnt matter but figured I'd ask
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Au contraire, mon frere. Keep your phone as charged as possible. IF YOU LET YOUR PHONE DIE, IT WILL LOSE CAPACITY. That's all there is to it. Charge it as much as possible, except if the battery is hot. If so, reboot, and let it cool for 5 mins, then charge it.
The first 2 days after I got my phone my battery was dying pretty fast but now that I've had it for a week it's lasting much much longer now.
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sauprankul said:
Au contraire, mon frere. Keep your phone as charged as possible. IF YOU LET YOUR PHONE DIE, IT WILL LOSE CAPACITY. That's all there is to it. Charge it as much as possible, except if the battery is hot. If so, reboot, and let it cool for 5 mins, then charge it.
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Not entirely true. Try to avoid the high end of the charge scale if you can, because then you're banking entirely on the assumption that the onboard controller will correctly charge-cycle the battery from the 95%-100% states. I just don't trust the onbaord that much.
mlese92 said:
I've been wondering this for a while but can't find much on the web. I was wondering if charging my battery when it's not completely dead will ruin battery efficiency? If for instance my phone is 30% and I'm going to need it for the night is it fine to charge it without the worry of damaging the battery. I'd assume our phones are advanced enough it wouldnt matter but figured I'd ask
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No. That used to be a problem with older batteries (where it was known as the memory effect), but current-generation Lithium-ion batteries only suffer from this to an essentially unnoticeable extent. If you drop the battery below 10% or so too often (a deep discharge), you can prematurely erode your capacity. It's a good idea to do this once a month or so to keep things running smoothly, but other than that there's no problem with charging/discharging whenever (outside of force of habit and pride-- you can't boast about long battery life if you're charging often, after all).
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(outside of force of habit and pride-- you can't boast about long battery life if you're charging often, after all).
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I STILL don't get it. How one earth does anybody get decent battery life on this phone, let alone those RIDICULOUS 5 hour screen times? I'm assuming there's no way without rooting, though. I can barely get 2 hours of screen time. And my power saver is always enabled!
Appx 35% of my battery is consumed by kernel. About 20% by the OS.
sauprankul said:
I STILL don't get it. How one earth does anybody get decent battery life on this phone, let alone those RIDICULOUS 5 hour screen times? I'm assuming there's no way without rooting, though. I can barely get 2 hours of screen time. And my power saver is always enabled!
Appx 35% of my battery is consumed by kernel. About 20% by the OS.
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I can just speak for myself. I root my phones before I use them so I have no idea how much better it is.
These guys who make the roms do some amazing stuff and take out a lot of crap to make our phones run better and faster. In that process, the battery life really improves.

[Q] Is it normal?

is it normal to have only about 4 hours of screen on in xperia z1?
how come because it is a 3000mAh battery?
or is my battery a faulty one?
shizurushu said:
is it normal to have only about 4 hours of screen on in xperia z1?
how come because it is a 3000mAh battery?
or is my battery a faulty one?
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I usually charge my phone around 20% - 30% so thats about 4 - 5 hours screen on time.
Ahki767 said:
I usually charge my phone around 20% - 30% so thats about 4 - 5 hours screen on time.
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4-5 hours screen time for 70%? mine lasts a little shorter. 80% for me is 4 hours screen on.
shizurushu said:
4-5 hours screen time for 70%? mine lasts a little shorter. 80% for me is 4 hours screen on.
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Sounds quite normal still, maybe you just have more apps running in the background than I do.
Ahki767 said:
Sounds quite normal still, maybe you just have more apps running in the background than I do.
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i dont have that many apps in my z1 right now. it is only about 2 weeks old or so. not more than 1 month. is it true that li-ion batteries tend to have its full capacity after certain charging cycles?.
i only use my z1 for texting because i am quite busy with my work.
shizurushu said:
i dont have that many apps in my z1 right now. it is only about 2 weeks old or so. not more than 1 month. is it true that li-ion batteries tend to have its full capacity after certain charging cycles?.
i only use my z1 for texting because i am quite busy with my work.
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I'm not sure if its true but I've heard people talk about it. Do what I do, go under developer options and limit background process to 3. Make sure stuff like nfc, bluetooth and gps are off too when you're not using them and don't overcharge the phone
shizurushu said:
is it normal to have only about 4 hours of screen on in xperia z1?
how come because it is a 3000mAh battery?
or is my battery a faulty one?
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I get 3/4 hours of screen, never got more than 4 and forget 5. Who get 5 or 6 I just don't know how they do that, maybe as I am on 4.3 and not on 4.4 but to me it should not make any difference.
Probably, as the phone is assembled with different hardware pices, like 2 lcd models, then can influence on battery consumption.
Hi,
I used to get 5-6 hours screen on time, but then I started to use more apps and specially listen to more music on it, with 4 hours of music listening I was getting 4 hours of screen on time. Maybe you should try letting it get completely discharged and then charge completely while off. When I was getting a bad battery life it helped me .
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I am on 4.4.2, my best only 4 hours of screen of time, and I have never got it last two days(I just don't know those people who last 5-6 hours, and 3 days), i use my phone mostly just for chatting, and i think my battery is really bad. sometimes I have to charge it every night.
You can check your battery health:
Dial *#*#7378423#*#* (*#*#service#*#*)
Choose Service tests
Go to Battery health test, then it should say if your battery is ok or not.
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Robert1852 said:
You can check your battery health:
Dial *#*#7378423#*#* (*#*#service#*#*)
Choose Service tests
Go to Battery health test, then it should say if your battery is ok or not.
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The Battery health test always says good, but my battery just so bad
here is the attachment and you can see how bad is my battery
I'm in the same boat as you, my Z1 is running KitKat all stock and after a clean install my battery just drains and both GSam battery monitor and the stock battery metre show that the android os and android system take up most of the battery after the screen
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Riaes said:
I am on 4.4.2, my best only 4 hours of screen of time, and I have never got it last two days(I just don't know those people who last 5-6 hours, and 3 days), i use my phone mostly just for chatting, and i think my battery is really bad. sometimes I have to charge it every night.
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Actually I do not complain of battery life when the Phone is in idle as I get more than 4 days in standby with a 30minutes on screen, what bothers me is the time on screen, which is no more than 4 hours. If you cannot get 3/4 days in standby then you have look for sapplication which working in background and eat your battery.
Robert1852 said:
You can check your battery health:
Dial *#*#7378423#*#* (*#*#service#*#*)
Choose Service tests
Go to Battery health test, then it should say if your battery is ok or not.
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This is irrelevant as any time you log into Service Battery Check it change every time, it not telling you the right thing and the battery cannot be checked from that.
eclyptos said:
This is irrelevant as any time you log into Service Battery Check it change every time, it not telling you the right thing and the battery cannot be checked from that.
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Okay thanks I never knew that
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eclyptos said:
Actually I do not complain of battery life when the Phone is in idle as I get more than 4 days in standby with a 30minutes on screen, what bothers me is the time on screen, which is no more than 4 hours. If you cannot get 3/4 days in standby then you have look for sapplication which working in background and eat your battery.
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Well, If i use the phone with 3 or 4 hours screen on time I have to charge every night, sometimes 1.5 day with 2 hours screen time. You mean three quarters of a day? I think I will not lost more than 15% if I leave it standby for 3/4 of day(maybe).
Riaes said:
Well, If i use the phone with 3 or 4 hours screen on time I have to charge every night, sometimes 1.5 day with 2 hours screen time. You mean three quarters of a day? I think I will not lost more than 15% if I leave it standby for 3/4 of day(maybe).
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Then I don't know where is the problem.
In my opinnion this depends on how you use the 3-5 hours display time.
If they are continuous it doesnt use that much power. When i'm using it at work (don't judge me) i can get up to 6 continuous hours.
When im using it over the day (12-15 hours) i get around 4 hours and a litte more, wich is kinda "hardcore-user" for most people.
My nexus 4 never lastet that long, i could just get over 2 hours display time when i used it over the day and 3 hours at work...
I usually drain about 20% of the battery for every screen on hour (or about 5 hours of screen on per full charge), and that's using Facebook for a long time (a very well known battery killer).Even on my worst days, I never get less than 3.5-4 hours of screen on per charge. However, I tend to keep brightness very low.
Check the battery usage per application using either the built-in monitor or something like GSam battery monitor. You may have a bad application, or too high brightness, or even low signal strength.

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