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The Diamond is not up to the job. Again HTC have sacrificed robustness for design, it looks great but it is simply not up to the job.
I have had HTC phones for years, by far the most attractive phones on the market, but they always drop calls, need excessive resetting or are just slow.
After a year without an HTC phone I bought a Diamond but once again it cannot be used as my main phone.
Staying away on business last night I set my alarm for 6am, closed all apps, turned plane mode on and switched the device off. It had around 60% battery charge in it at that time.
Next thing I know the phone is ringing telling me my taxi is waiting to take me to the office...the PHONE IS DEAD...NO POWER.
There seems to be a huge memory leak that discharged the battery over a number of hours with apparently nothing running.
I'm so frustrated that HTC have lured me in again with their fancy design phone that simply cannot deliver the basics. Why do people keep buying their devices?
Can't wait for the Xperia to be released, in my experience Sony's build quality is exemplary. Anyone want a Diamond?!!
You know that the Sony Xperia X1 ist made by HTC as well?
Its a shame you are having these issues, my Diamond is fine, fair enough its not getting used for business so use is light to meduim on a day to day basis and it does need a soft reset every now and then but, I can leave mine on 1 battery bar and put to sleep for the night and it won't probably die till mid morning so as to why yours is draining so fast, especially from 60% I don't know. I am reasonably happy with mine to say how small the battery is.
Personally I don't think this phone is marketed for business users, thats what the touch pro is for, the diamonds battery just doesn't have the stamina for business use!
Personally I found my battery very poor at the start but then after each charge it seemed to get better and better. I always fully discharged before charging on the first 5 charges and do try to keep up to that, even though the lithium ion shouldn't really make any difference but its not always possible!
if it is for business I would wait for the Touch Pro, looks just as good and better battery!! etc!!!
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Thanks for your reply. I do not use it as my business phone, I have a separate, infallible Nokia for that. It is my personal phone - I simply set the alarm clock on it - thought it would at least be able to wake me up!
Ok, 60% should be plenty to last 1 night in sleep mode, had you been using GPS / Google Maps, I believe their is a battery issue with google maps.
Well, let's not blame this on HTC now...I believe the problem lies with Bill Gates.
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Thanks for your reply. I do not use it as my business phone, I have a separate, infallible Nokia for that. It is my personal phone - I simply set the alarm clock on it - thought it would at least be able to wake me up!
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I think you are doing something wrong. When I got my Diamond and it was still on the original charge it came with, I got the almost empty battery message when I went to bed. It went to standby and the next morning the alarm went off like it was supposed to. Sure, after it went of for about 10 secs the battery died but still it lasted a whole night while the battery was near empty so there must be something wrong if your battery dies so fast.
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I think you are doing something wrong. When I got my Diamond and it was still on the original charge it came with, I got the almost empty battery message when I went to bed. It went to standby and the next morning the alarm went off like it was supposed to. Sure, after it went of for about 10 secs the battery died but still it lasted a whole night while the battery was near empty so there must be something wrong if your battery dies so fast.
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Thanks but this isn't really that helpful to me. Remember it was 60% at 11pm but didn't last the night.
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Thanks but this isn't really that helpful to me. Remember it was 60% at 11pm but didn't last the night.
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Maybe you should have chosen another thread title if you wanted to have help. I thought YOU could not been taken seriosly. Anyway maybe you´ve used Google maps, there seems to be a bug. Google maps seems not to close the GPS so the battery is draining really quick. Or you even have a faulty cell.
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Maybe you should have chosen another thread title if you wanted to have help. I thought YOU could not been taken seriosly. Anyway maybe you´ve used Google maps, there seems to be a bug. Google maps seems not to close the GPS so the battery is draining really quick. Or you even have a faulty cell.
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I too think there is something wrong with your device or setting, mine was at 70% at 11:30pm, phone function is on, push mail is on, and another 2 POP3 mail are on for geting mail every 15 mins, this morning at 9:30am, it's at 50%, so you might want to look into this.
I fully agree with you. When it comes to ROM development, HTC is very slow and delivers a lot of buggy firmwares.
With the initial Diamond ROM my device came with, it was almost unusable, battery life was a joke too.
Now I'm using the latest TLR ROM which I can highly recommend. It makes out of a nice piece of hardware a usable piece of hardware. Not perfect, not even close to iPhone touch performance/usability but usable and probably close to perfection considering what is(technically) possible with Windows Mobile 6.1(which was never designed to be used with a finger but with a stylus).
The problem about flashing cooked ROMS is: you loose your warranty. I know this sucks, the OEM ROM is hardly usable and flashing even a different region ROM to your Diamond could void the warranty, this is something I don't understand.
If HTC wants to keep us happy, they need to release ROM updates MUCH FASTER than they do right now and please through OFFICIAL CHANNELS too.
I doesn't help customers too much if they need to come here to find the latest official ROMs to be able to make their expensive HTC toys work. The latest ROM versions need to be available on the local HTC support websites. What is the e-Club worth if they offer new ROMs once a year?!
The best approach is actually the way the TLR ROM handles updates. The AppToDate application is a treat and something HTC should seriously consider implementing into their ROMs. Unfortunately so much can go wrong, this is probably the reason why Nokia pulled the OTA Updates from most of their phones(where it was available), sad story.
So if you're willing to risk your warranty, you may be able to be happy with your Diamond after reflashing it with a cooked ROM from this forum.
If not, you better return it because honestly, without xda-developers and the fantastic cooked ROMs, HTC would probably sell only half of the devices they sell now. I would have NEVER EVER bought another HTC phone without the hope that some smart people over here would be able to deliver a decent and good working ROM.
HTC and Microsoft should kiss the feet of the makers/owners of xda-developers because without this site, I would have NEVER bought another HTC/WM device anymore. Honestly.
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I would have NEVER EVER bought another HTC phone without the hope that some smart people over here would be able to deliver a decent and good working ROM.
HTC and Microsoft should kiss the feet of the makers/owners of xda-developers because without this site, I would have NEVER bought another HTC/WM device anymore. Honestly.
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I couldn't have put it better myself.
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I fully agree with you. When it comes to ROM development, HTC is very slow and delivers a lot of buggy firmwares.
With the initial Diamond ROM my device came with, it was almost unusable, battery life was a joke too.
Now I'm using the latest TLR ROM which I can highly recommend. It makes out of a nice piece of hardware a usable piece of hardware. Not perfect, not even close to iPhone touch performance/usability but usable and probably close to perfection considering what is(technically) possible with Windows Mobile 6.1(which was never designed to be used with a finger but with a stylus).
The problem about flashing cooked ROMS is: you loose your warranty. I know this sucks, the OEM ROM is hardly usable and flashing even a different region ROM to your Diamond could void the warranty, this is something I don't understand.
If HTC wants to keep us happy, they need to release ROM updates MUCH FASTER than they do right now and please through OFFICIAL CHANNELS too.
I doesn't help customers too much if they need to come here to find the latest official ROMs to be able to make their expensive HTC toys work. The latest ROM versions need to be available on the local HTC support websites. What is the e-Club worth if they offer new ROMs once a year?!
The best approach is actually the way the TLR ROM handles updates. The AppToDate application is a treat and something HTC should seriously consider implementing into their ROMs. Unfortunately so much can go wrong, this is probably the reason why Nokia pulled the OTA Updates from most of their phones(where it was available), sad story.
So if you're willing to risk your warranty, you may be able to be happy with your Diamond after reflashing it with a cooked ROM from this forum.
If not, you better return it because honestly, without xda-developers and the fantastic cooked ROMs, HTC would probably sell only half of the devices they sell now. I would have NEVER EVER bought another HTC phone without the hope that some smart people over here would be able to deliver a decent and good working ROM.
HTC and Microsoft should kiss the feet of the makers/owners of xda-developers because without this site, I would have NEVER bought another HTC/WM device anymore. Honestly.
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Exactly my sentiments. Without XDA Forums, I would not ever have bought another WM phone. Thanks to all the guys who spend their time and energy for cooking ROM's for us whch make our devices so better.
Interesting to read this.
I have this exact problem intermittently with my Niki (Touch Dual) I complained to Orange UK & they sent me a replacement battery a couple of months ago.
Its happened three times since & now they are sending me a replacement phone. Hopefully this will sort the problem, I wonder if its something specific to flight mode as it only happens to me when I put it in flight mode.
If I were you I'd try & get a replacement from wherever you purchased the phone.
This is and always has been a common problem with WM phones. There is some program running somewhere which is draining the battery.
Along with the Pro's of anyone being able to make a WM app, comes the con that it doesnt need to be heavily tested on multiple devices.
If you tried the exact same thing after a soft reset, without launching any third party tools, i bet you won't have the problem. Your only solutions are to narrow down which program it is (probably google maps), or just not use third party tools untill others verify they work fine.
This isnt a HTC problem, its a WM problem.
To be honest, this is my first WM device and i have to say im quite impressed by it...i did have a WM device a few yrs back..think it was running WM5 and was from O2...big chunky looking pda/phone...cant remember the name of it. But having that for a few days just made me realise just how rubbish WM devices are...but that was before i discovered this gem of a forum.
As for the Diamond?...i love it absolutely love it...but my only major gripe is with the battery...if anything its going to put alot of people off...i really do not understand why HTC decided to go with such a low capacity battery...even with the tweaks applied its still not up to the job imo...my Diamond charged 100% this morning...made a few calls and received a few calls. Sent a few sms and received a few...checking my email every hr etc etc and my battery is now down to 2 bars :/....which just proves to me that HTC really screwed up in the battery dept...theres no way this device can handle all that power without a decent sized battery. But as usual HTC will put out an extended battery to rip us off some more. Thats the only thing that doesnt impress me about HTC and the Diamond. Other than that its a joy to use.
Up until Sunday i was seriously thinking of returning the phone but thanks to the guys here at XDA forums...i applied the tweaks that was mentioned and the phone is now much much better...so like a few other posters...if it wasnt for this place...i wouldnt even bother with a WM device. So a big big thanks to this community...because of you guys im keeping my Diamond.
Now if they would only get a bloody higher capacity battery out soon!!!
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If you tried the exact same thing after a soft reset, without launching any third party tools, i bet you won't have the problem. Your only solutions are to narrow down which program it is (probably google maps), or just not use third party tools untill others verify they work fine.
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Interesting idea & quite probably correct, however when my phone has discharged its after I've closed all apps via taskman & put it in plane mode.
Also sadly I'm still running vanilla flavour orange uk rom, locked with no additional apps... Which could very well be the source of my problems!
Must do more faffing when my replacement comes through
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i really do not understand why HTC decided to go with such a low capacity battery
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It is for the design, HTC wanted to make a smaller phone as Apple has.
The designers had no idea about the engineering, about WM, etc.
And here we are now charging the phone once a day as we done in years ago when we had Compaq iPAQ PocketPCs.
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But as usual HTC will put out an extended battery to rip us off some more.
Now if they would only get a bloody higher capacity battery out soon!!!
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no my friend...
ripping you off would be making the battery non-removable and removing a sim card with a paper clip.
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I too think there is something wrong with your device or setting, mine was at 70% at 11:30pm, phone function is on, push mail is on, and another 2 POP3 mail are on for geting mail every 15 mins, this morning at 9:30am, it's at 50%, so you might want to look into this.
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Fot the pop3, where you trigering the wi-fi every 15 mins? if yes, no wonder you kill your battery so fast.
Hi Guys
heard this phone can be sluggish. If you apply the tweaks above, do you still thing the phone is sluggish and how long does the battery last? Ive also heard that the cellular reception is crap?
Please give me your honest thoughts.
Please factor in that i'm a power user. I use everything from Word/Excel/Pocket Outlook through to Internet Sharing ... almost constantly.
isn`t there enough reviews and opinion threads onto this device here already ? is it really needed to settle down another one ?
my answer : YES it`s worth
The way I see it is like this. There is no phone that will einterly do what we want. The battery life is not much and it is a bit slow using the touch3d today. But for most part it works very good. It can multi task (so I can listen to music and play a game or internet at the same time)
There will always be those that will love it (I love the phone) and those who will try to bring it down. But that you will get with every phone that will come out.
I am no Iphone lover. Nice design and smoother, but to few programs that or compatible with it.
So you see, it's just where you stand. I guess if you have a girlfriend, you love her, but their will always be things of her you will not like, but you will accept it.
wow nice chap.
A few examples:
Can you just clarify for me if those "reviewers" and opinions have had the tweaks applied? Very few mention the tweaks either installed or not.
Are they heavy Office Mobile users?
I notice very few ... i mean NO .... comments from people using internet sharing.
As for reading reviews online from other site, you can pretty much garuntee they don't have these tweaks installed. I found ONE that did, a guy on CNet in Hong Kong.
So no, there are not enough reviews. I would like to hear from people who have applied these tweaks and use the apps above and internet sharing. i.e. heavy, business users of the Diamond. Anyone out there?
edit: your sig suggests you need to chill out a bit.
Thanks for the response Oddball and indeed you are correct. At the end of the day, its very much personal preference.
Are you an extensive user of Office Mobile and IS? If so, how do you find the phone using these apps (usualy for me, in meetings taking notes etc) and the battery life/performance?
What I think...
I find the device very useful for updating spreadsheets on the move, most of the time i can use the screen as normal with the finger, but depending on what tasks you want to do the stylus may need to come out.
It is great being able to edit, view and send office documents tho. I find the diamond the best of the bunch for doing this. I would say that the Touch Pro maybe better tho, as the QWERTY keyboard brings obvious benefits, see more of the screen when editing documents, more control using the keys and easier data entry.
For me tho the size of the device is important and the Touch Pro looks like its on the porkie side! After owning all manner of Windows Mobile phones and devices, including the Ameo, after having that beast (which if it wasnt for the size I would def rate as the best Windows Mobile Device ive had, 5" VGA Screen and 8gb MicroDrive, excellent stuff) ive got used to not using a hardware keyboard and i prefer the smaller, keyboardless device.
The speed of the Diamond, for me, even without the tweaks, is acceptable. I have 1.37 rom and a UK English or WWE Official UK Stock Diamond. Im more than happy with my device, excellent screen quality, very good in sunlight to. Camera is also very good (with the back cover off! cough cough! htc!!!!!!!! silly buggers!)
Regarding the Internet Sharing, i have not needed to do this as yet but I used to use the feature in the Tmobile Ameo and it was very useful if in a Wifi-less hotel or b&b. I tend to just use the built in Opera Browser and many times this has got me outta using my laptop.
(example - needed to price check an item that i was purchasing so just used Opera Internet Browser and i was tapping around and price checking within minutes)
For me the Diamond is excellent and that is thanks to the dedication and persistance of people on this forum. For me the Diamond experience will only get better.
Hope this helps!
thats all excellent info Tom, thanks very much!!!!!! Just the sort of stuff I am after
Must admit, I currently own a G900 (800x480 screen/qwerty popout) and its awesome for browsing/office etc but, I just can't live without an internal GPS anymore. Its amazing how annoying it is to think "I can just turn on the gps .... no wait, i didn't bring it out with me" gets.
How do you find the battery life whilst doing all that? Do you use push email or pop/smtp? I hear that the cell radio reception is poor, if so, do you find this affecting your battery a lot with regards to email collection/sending?
More on the Diamond Experience...
I do sometimes find that the Signal Strength is a bit poorer than ive had on previous devices, eg the Tmobile Ameo, but im sure with the guys beavering away on this forum it wont be long before a Radio update will fix that. Unless HTC pull their finger out and start taking comments on board and update as often as they can...not holding much hope. Thanks XDA Devs! At least your on the ball!
Battery life, so far, for me personally (who only has Bluetooth / wifi / internet connection when they need it) has been acceptable. Most Windows Mobile phones, when they first come out, suffer from pants battery life. I agree it is a measly capacity battery, but already extended life batteries are coming out, I however, for the moment, wont be purchasing one, but I would say someone such as yourself, it may be worth investing in one if you are to have a constant internet connection via 3G / GPRS or Wifi.
For emailing, usually just checking them I use my Diamond to receive via email via POP accounts and it has been fine doing this. Using both WIFI connections where possible and also using the 3G connection its done this brilliantly but to be honest every Windows Mobile device ive ever owned (going back to 2002 when the first SPV has came out) has been able to do this quickly and painlessly.
I agree with you, having owned a Touch Dual and a Touch and having wished they both had GPS integrated its great having it built in. Initially it took about 5 mins to find the Satellites but after it did this ive found about 20 secs and i have a fix and everythings spot on.
Having the great quality screen also helps to, as the sharp crispness is brilliant and a welcome addition to the already feature rich device that it is.
Full marks HTC for providing a small, very compact, but at the same time a feature rich phone that does everything apart from make you a cuppa tea (but can control your light switches to.... http://www.coolsmartphone.com/news4114.html whatever next! hehe!)
Will be happy to answer any more questions, please dont flame me for what I say (anyone out there) im giving you my PERSONAL experience of the phone about how I use it and understand that this may not be the case for everyone.
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....Will be happy to answer any more questions, please dont flame me for what I say (anyone out there) im giving you my PERSONAL experience of the phone about how I use it and understand that this may not be the case for everyone.
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Exactly!
Again, thanks for a very full and detailed response. I must admit the battery life does concern me ... a lot. As mentioned I have a G900 and with its very high res screen and rubbish 3g radio, it sucks battery life. So much in fact that I virtually doubled its depth with a 3000mah battery. Having said that, I didnt realise extended batteries are already coming out for the Diamond and this gives me some confidence.
As for the email, I too have been very happy with WM devices retrieving/sending. I was more concerned with the battery life with push mail on all the time but, guess you covered that with the extended battery options
I think my next step is now back to google to see what the extended batteries do to the shape and size of the phone.
Thank you very much for your informed and helpfull opinions
Trust me, it's not slow with newer Roms. TLR rom for instance runs great, and using the TFLO3D for 'daily purpose' is just mavellous. Not slow at all.
Just opening mailbox then takes about 3 seconds. Well poe. It's with all WM devices mostly. I can wait 3 seconds ?
PRoblem is people start tapping twice, or tapping other things. Just know how to use it and enjoy it.
It's definatedly worth it.
Extended Life Batteries
No worries, glad I could help.
I found more info on the extended life batterys here
http://www.modaco.com/content/pocke...he-41-p-p-diamond-extended-battery-available/
You also get shipped a replacement cover to (because of the depth of the battery)
As the diamond is a very slim device anyway I cant see it adding alot of bulk to the device, but like i said, for the moment im gonna stick with it as standard.
I have read somewhere of a 1800mah battery that was half the price of the one above, that may be worth investigating (think it was from Clove in the UK)
If you have any more questions, ask away, I will keep me eye out!
there is indeed and it is by clove!
http://www.clove.co.uk/viewProduct....Category=CB077B5C-390D-4153-8EDD-44D1B2BEF716
It also appears to have a flat back rather than the "diamond" type. At 1800mah it should power this little device a few seriously hard worked days
Thats the one I think I would go for if i was gonna get any.
The flat back is a good idea (altho to be honest its not that unstable on its back with the diamond shaped cover on it) but the capacity would mean a good few days use outta it.
And the price is reasonable to. Be nice to find out how much extra bulk the battery adds to the phone, i think im gonna email Clove to find out.
call me curious! hehe!
EDIT ** Email sent 1st July - 3:09 - Will wait and see and will post my findings on here...
I think this one could be even better - http://www.easydevices.co.uk/products.asp?partno=BATCRUISEEXTD&model=
I think i remember seeing this one in another thread somewhere. Notice the battery part no BATCRUISEEXTD on the website.
I didnt think the Touch Cruise had the same size battery compartment as the Touch Diamond? Is this just an error on the website, or is it because they just bundle a Touch Diamond bigger back cover with it?
Will be interesting to find out. Thats one huge momma of power!
Re Ext Batteries from Clove...
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Thats the one I think I would go for if i was gonna get any.
The flat back is a good idea (altho to be honest its not that unstable on its back with the diamond shaped cover on it) but the capacity would mean a good few days use outta it.
And the price is reasonable to. Be nice to find out how much extra bulk the battery adds to the phone, i think im gonna email Clove to find out.
call me curious! hehe!
EDIT ** Email sent 1st July - 3:09 - Will wait and see and will post my findings on here...
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Got a reply back from Clove today and this is what they said:
Tom
Thank you for the email. We are waiting for the first of these
batteries to come through. As a result at this point we are unable to
comment on how much thickness the battery actually adds.
However based on the manufacturers other extended batteries, we can say
that they keep additional thickness to a minimum and are very good at
ensuring the casing is designed to be as slim and functional as
possible.
Guess its watch this space till they are released then!
well, having finaly seen an Omnia with a screen shot of Excel running and the popup keyboard, the keyboard took up virtually all the screen and made it to me, unusable
I've bitten the bullet and bought a Touch with an 1800mah battery.... I just REALLY hope that build quality has significantly impoved over the TyTN and BlueAngels i've had in the past... fingers crossed!
Thanks for all the advice Tom & others!
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well, having finaly seen an Omnia with a screen shot of Excel running and the popup keyboard, the keyboard took up virtually all the screen and made it to me, unusable
I've bitten the bullet and bought a Touch with an 1800mah battery.... I just REALLY hope that build quality has significantly impoved over the TyTN and BlueAngels i've had in the past... fingers crossed!
Thanks for all the advice Tom & others!
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good bye! what a waste of cyber space...i'll run and give a warning to the Touch forum ppl. hope i am not too late....
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good bye! what a waste of cyber space...i'll run and give a warning to the Touch forum ppl. hope i am not too late....
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You have been nothing but rude and unconstructive in all the posts I have seen you write. Why are you here?
In fact, don't bother answering, i'm not interested. Bet your really proud of yourself.
Monty Burns said:
You have been nothing but rude and unconstructive in all the posts I have seen you write. Why are you here?
In fact, don't bother answering, i'm not interested. Bet your really proud of yourself.
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real problem' real answer:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406195
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406470
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=405174
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406062
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406227
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406107
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=404700
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=404700
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=402039
now look at mi avatar and translate it....
Hi all! i just wanted to ask a few things, hope this is not a bad idea, i want to buy the HTC dream, or G1, but i have some questions, the g1 community is a mess and i find a lot of info everywhere :S so..
1.Is the battery that crap? how much does it lasts? (i WILL not use, 3G(not available here in CR) nor Edge, only Wi-Fi, and SMS, according to this how much?)
2.Where i can get *online* the t-mobile g1 cheaper? (unlocked)
3.Will it work here in my country(Costa Rica) if a buy the T-Mobile version?(can i unlock it somehow?)
4.What's better, buy the first android device, or buy another android device?(just to say, a better version of G1, will be available, and is better that this one?)
5.Hows the video recording?(i heard this got in by an update =D)
Hi, thanks for all, i like XDA a lot I plan to leave ALL windows mobile things, im not really into it, its just a crap system, i will sell my device(a ipaq 510 VM) and buy this phone so this is gonna help me made up my mind...
Hi all! i just wanted to ask a few things, hope this is not a bad idea, i want to buy the HTC dream, or G1, but i have some questions, the g1 community is a mess and i find a lot of info everywhere :S so..
1.Is the battery that crap? how much does it lasts? (i WILL not use, 3G(not available here in CR) nor Edge, only Wi-Fi, and SMS, according to this how much?)
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It's pretty crap. You can probably get max 5 hours or so of wifi (screen continuously on, intermittent data transmission) if you turned radios off. Just a guess.
2.Where i can get *online* the t-mobile g1 cheaper? (unlocked)
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eBay, maybe?
3.Will it work here in my country(Costa Rica) if a buy the T-Mobile version?(can i unlock it somehow?)
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If you don't intend on using 3G, the G1 is a quad-band GSM device, so it will work on any GSM network. If you buy a locked G1, you can either have it unlocked by a friend who has T-Mobile service (call cust support and give them the IMEI) or buy an unlock from a website.
4.What's better, buy the first android device, or buy another android device?(just to say, a better version of G1, will be available, and is better that this one?)
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That's for you to decide. There will always be newer devices/technologies.
5.Hows the video recording?(i heard this got in by an update =D)
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Video recording will be implemented in Android 1.5, which has not been officially released yet.
In addition to #5, there is an app for video recording, its very glitchy but it does get the job done. I'm pretty sure the 1.5 update would make it more official, higher quality, and stable.
oh thanks really a lot jashsu, thats very helpfull, so i will find out hows the htc magic lol, and i hope video recording is added soon. Maybe the G1 will be my new phone, and really 5 hours isn't very good at all... I need something that can last even 2 days in stand by mode. Wait in stand by how much does it last?
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oh thanks really a lot jashsu, thats very helpfull, so i will find out hows the htc magic lol, and i hope video recording is added soon. Maybe the G1 will be my new phone, and really 5 hours isn't very good at all... I need something that can last even 2 days in stand by mode. Wait in stand by how much does it last?
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In standby with wifi, 3G (which you would not be able to use anyway), and GPS off it should last 2 days. If you do not mind adding bulk there are after market batteries that should be able to handle it with ease. I use a seidio 1400 mAh battery which works with the standard back and that will last me all day with moderate talk time. If you are only talking occasionally I can see the 1400 mAh battery lasting 2 days, though not much longer than that. If you really want power there is a 2600 mAh which requires an extended back face. It adds substantial bulk to the device so I do not use it all the time but it lasts me 2 days and change of use as long as I do not hit data too heavily. I can see it lasting 4 days and change in standby, though that is just a guess.
Personally if a hardware keyboard is not important to you I would wait and see how the reviews on the Magic are or wait till Q3 and see what the Samsung units have to offer. Right now the G1 is the only game in town but there are quite a few devices in the pipeline for a release this year.
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Hi all! i just wanted to ask a few things, hope this is not a bad idea, i want to buy the HTC dream, or G1, but i have some questions, the g1 community is a mess and i find a lot of info everywhere :S so..
1.Is the battery that crap? how much does it lasts? (i WILL not use, 3G(not available here in CR) nor Edge, only Wi-Fi, and SMS, according to this how much?)
2.Where i can get *online* the t-mobile g1 cheaper? (unlocked)
3.Will it work here in my country(Costa Rica) if a buy the T-Mobile version?(can i unlock it somehow?)
4.What's better, buy the first android device, or buy another android device?(just to say, a better version of G1, will be available, and is better that this one?)
5.Hows the video recording?(i heard this got in by an update =D)
Hi, thanks for all, i like XDA a lot I plan to leave ALL windows mobile things, im not really into it, its just a crap system, i will sell my device(a ipaq 510 VM) and buy this phone so this is gonna help me made up my mind...
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For battery life and video recording it depends what you're willing to do with it. There's an update made by one of the hackers here on xda-developers that gets significantly better battery life(mine lasted from ~9AM till about 10:30PM yesterday with heavy usage all day) and includes video recording, stereo bluetooth, auto-rotation with onscreen keyboard, etc but you have to first hack your phone to get root privileges and then hack it again to put on his version(haykuro's cupcake ROM)
I will wait for the HTC Magic and the samsungs, you're right, they might be a better buy, mm, lol i really thing i will use the device much less than what you all said, ocassionally turn on wifi, some call that lasts 5 - 20 min, lots of SMS but playing with around, anyway better wait till the android scene gets better, i like the g1 keyboard, i don't see myselft only using the touch screen, but anyway i hope a "G2" get on, or somehow a android device with keyboard and touch screen thanks all, hey, video recording? quality?
I got mine for $200 on craigslist brand new I've seen ~$250+ on ebay
Hello everyone,
During the last few months I've had issues where my Xperia X8 would randomly enter a repetitive reboot. After five or so reboots, the phone would stabilize and would function normally for a few days until the same thing happened again.
Lately, it started doing it more often, and especially when I was to either make a call or surf the internet for longer than a minute or two. In other words, the problem finally caught my attention as it interfered with the basic functions of a smartphone.
After restoring a six-months old back-up, removing all of the mostly unused apps, formatting the SD card, testing another SIM card and trying out the GingerDX ROM instead of FroyoPro, nothing of which did anything to solve the problem, I asked a fellow X8 user to lend me his battery for a few days as a last ditch fix which I could do on my own. Luckily, this turned out to be the culprit. Now I'm four days in without a single restart and the phone working faster than ever being all cleaned up.
A short story was made long for future reference if anyone else happened to have the same issue. I also posted in this forum instead of Accessories because this one is most active. Sorry about that
Now I'm in the need of a replacement battery, as my friend would prefer to get his battery back. No fancy stuff - a simple 1200 mAh replacement would do. Does anyone have any experience with this?
What's your opinion on these:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/GENUINE-ORIGINAL-ERICSSON-XPERIA-BATTERY/dp/B007C99ES6/ref=pd_cp_ce_0
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mobile-Accessories-Battery-Compatible-Ericsson/dp/B005GK27KA/ref=pd_cp_ce_1
http://www.amazon.co.uk/SUPERSTORE-ERICSSON-XPERIA-COMPATIBLE-BATTERY/dp/B003NGCZVU/ref=pd_cp_ce_2
The price looks fine and all that, but we all got burned at some point buying non-official merchandise. I'm pretty sure these are neither genuine nor SE batteries, but might as well do as replacements.
Any suggestions?
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The price looks fine and all that, but we all got burned at some point buying non-official merchandise. I'm pretty sure these are neither genuine nor SE batteries, but might as well do as replacements.
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This.
The price seems very low and i guess you can give it a try. In the worst case you will lose 5£ or so.
I guess they will work for a while but I'm on the same opinion as what you wrote above.
stamatis said:
This.
The price seems very low and i guess you can give it a try. In the worst case you will lose 5£ or so.
I guess they will work for a while but I'm on the same opinion as what you wrote above.
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Exactly, and some of the reviews look completely rigged.
Anyway, by some stroke of luck I found what seemed to be the only shop in town that still had the EP500 model replacement battery in their storage, so no ordering via web-shop or other internet venues was necessary. I'm from Croatia, so it ended up costing 9£, which would be the exact equivalent as if I had ordered a similar model from Amazon, taking total shipping into account.
One day in, one call, ~10 SMSs and an hour of so worth of listening to music later, about 15% of the battery was spent, but keep in mind I only use 2G and the phone puts itself on airplane mode during night time.
So, I'm satisfied The only thing I can recommend is that you absolutely try your local vendors before trying anything else, as you do get warranty in most cases and you can easily return the battery if it explodes.
My phone is only 3-4 months old and it's starting to overheat and lose battery fairly quick 5-6 hours usage max. I want to try rooting on stock, but I don't want to have to manually flash monthly security updates.. I'm just kind of over all of that now. I went to FAA and am no longer a flashaholic like I was in my early 20's. I also, don't have the time for it, and the random hiccups or break downs when I need my phone to work 100% of the time.
I don't understand why this is happening. The phone is in like new condition. I could easily list and sell it as like new, because I've kept it in a case, never let it near water or dropped it. I subconsciously know to put my keys in the opposite pocket as my phone (very good habit to get into I must add). So I think I could get a lot for this phone on Amazon looking at the prices it's being sold $350 now (I paid $300 for it months ago, but it's discontinued, and people do still want this). I would list it for $325. My seller feedback is 100% with 9 other smartphones sold with feedback stating I sell my products exactly as described, so when I list, they usually sell within 24 hours.
I don't want to sell, but would A. Would it be smart since I can basically get my money back and upgrade without losing much (if any) money after fees? B.) Do you think there's a fix, or is my phone going bust? C.) With the phone being 3-4 months old, should I just get Motorola to replace it? I heard they give 64GB new replacements for the cloud whites for Amazon customers. Then I could sell that and actually buy a 6P for not much more, and have a 6 mos old phone as opposed to a 1.5 old model.
Thoughts?
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). So I think I could get a lot for this phone on Amazon looking at the prices it's being sold $350 now (I paid $300 for it months ago, but it's discontinued, and people do still want this). I would list it for $325. My seller feedback is 100% with 9 other smartphones sold with feedback stating I sell my products exactly as described, so when I list, they usually sell within 24 hours.
Thoughts?
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What does your seller feedback have to do with upgrading your phone, or whether it is defective?
Why does it matter that other phones sell within 24 hours? If your Samsung Galaxy S5 took 25 hours to sell, does that mean your Nexus 6 doesn't have an overheating problem?
I would recommend doing a factory reset to make sure that it isn't some malfunctioning apps that are causing this, before you send it in to Moto, or sell it for more than you paid (which is somehow relevant to the issue at hand).
We have no idea if your N6 is defective. That's up to you to decide and RMA with Motorola if you want. Motorola may send you a brand new or refurbished phone.
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What does your seller feedback have to do with upgrading your phone, or whether it is defective?
Why does it matter that other phones sell within 24 hours? If your Samsung Galaxy S5 took 25 hours to sell, does that mean your Nexus 6 doesn't have an overheating problem?
I would recommend doing a factory reset to make sure that it isn't some malfunctioning apps that are causing this, before you send it in to Moto, or sell it for more than you paid (which is somehow relevant to the issue at hand).
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I'm just stating I could sell it if I had to and get what I paid for it, if buying a new phone is a better decision. Idk if this a common problem with the Nexus 6 or not. Everything is pretty much bone stock. I don't want Touchwiz or any bloated phone. I'd rather get another Nexus, but I am worried about the SD810. Is the SD810 in the 6P better than it is in the OP2 and LG phones? I prefer no bloatware. I'm very minimal with my apps.
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We have no idea if your N6 is defective. That's up to you to decide and RMA with Motorola if you want. Motorola may send you a brand new or refurbished phone.
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What would cause it to start lagging and getting so hot that I have to turn it off for 15-20 minutes for doing nothing, but reading or taking calls. I keep the brightness almost all the way down 99% of the time to keep the phone from getting burn in too. I've done everything I can to baby this phone for the day I do decide to resell it, but I've never had a phone just start going crazy except when I had custom ROMs on it, but it's stock now. I've tried wiping cache. I still haven't done a FDR, but I did those for people when I worked in wireless in college, and that was always a last ditch effort that never really solved a problem like this.
Not trying to be funny or weird, but I don't watch porn or visit weird websites. It's always news, check Facebook on their webpage, and Google now. Gmail attachments from co-workers and family and friends. So I don't think I could have a virus. Can a chip or RAM just go bad one day?
nikeman513 said:
What would cause it to start lagging and getting so hot that I have to turn it off for 15-20 minutes for doing nothing, but reading or taking calls. I keep the brightness almost all the way down 99% of the time to keep the phone from getting burn in too. I've done everything I can to baby this phone for the day I do decide to resell it, but I've never had a phone just start going crazy except when I had custom ROMs on it, but it's stock now. I've tried wiping cache. I still haven't done a FDR, but I did those for people when I worked in wireless in college, and that was always a last ditch effort that never really solved a problem like this.
Not trying to be funny or weird, but I don't watch porn or visit weird websites. It's always news, check Facebook on their webpage, and Google now. Gmail attachments from co-workers and family and friends. So I don't think I could have a virus. Can a chip or RAM just go bad one day?
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It could be a wide variety of things. From apps (which clearly it isn't, given the provided information) to hardware. Whether it's a defective battery that's getting hot under very minimal loads or during charging, or whether it's a dying chip/something shorting out which is generating much more heat than it should. Download System Monitor Lite on Google Play and see what temperatures your CPU and battery are running on, and at what frequencies/loads it ramps up at. If the temps ramp up even when there's no CPU usage, then it's probably hardware and Motorola/Google (depending on the origin of device) will do their best to satisfy you within a week. If your CPU usage is constantly hitting high numbers you should probably factory reset your device.
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It could be a wide variety of things. From apps (which clearly it isn't, given the provided information) to hardware. Whether it's a defective battery that's getting hot under very minimal loads or during charging, or whether it's a dying chip/something shorting out which is generating much more heat than it should. Download System Monitor Lite on Google Play and see what temperatures your CPU and battery are running on, and at what frequencies/loads it ramps up at. If the temps ramp up even when there's no CPU usage, then it's probably hardware and Motorola/Google (depending on the origin of device) will do their best to satisfy you within a week. If your CPU usage is constantly hitting high numbers you should probably factory reset your device.
Hope this gets you a step further, unlike other comments..
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Thank you for the useful information. I'm going to check that out the next couple hours and if it seems to have odd frequency's, I'll go ahead and FDR it and give it another day. Then if it has the problem still, I'll go ahead and do a warranty claim. I just would hate to be without a phone for however long they will make me be without one, but it's getting pretty severe. Thanks again.
nikeman513 said:
Thank you for the useful information. I'm going to check that out the next couple hours and if it seems to have odd frequency's, I'll go ahead and FDR it and give it another day. Then if it has the problem still, I'll go ahead and do a warranty claim. I just would hate to be without a phone for however long they will make me be without one, but it's getting pretty severe. Thanks again.
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A few weeks ago my Google now app updated and my phone had severe battery drain and got warmer than usual (Google now was at around 25% in battery usage). So I decided to FDR and then install a nandroid backup I had and problem solved. So imho apps can cause the symptoms you describe.
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