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I just purchased a rooted Nexus 1 from eBay. It came with Cyanogen 6.0 RC3. 5.08 radio. I noticed it was always displaying an E for edge signal. I went into the phone menu (*#*#4636#*#*) to set it to WCDMA Only. It then would not get a signal at all. I set signal back (WCDMA perfered) and Flashed Cyanogen ROM again with 4.06 Radio. I still get only EDGE. I have another Nexus 1 and it goes between H and 3G (HSPA is active in my area). Does anyone have any idea what could be causing this or how to fix?
One is AT&T band and another is T-Mobile band, perhaps?
No they r for T-Mobile. The problem is it only shows edge and never 3g like it should.
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Try flashing back to stock to see if it keeps doing that.
Did you check settings>wireless & networks>mobile networks "use only 2g networks" unchecked. I assume you did since you know the (*#*#4636#*#*) method, but maybe someone else will read this who needs it. If that doesn't work I would test an ATT sim card to clear my curiosity.
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Did you check settings>wireless & networks>mobile networks "use only 2g networks" unchecked. I assume you did since you know the (*#*#4636#*#*) method, but maybe someone else will read this who needs it. If that doesn't work I would test an ATT sim card to clear my curiosity.
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Yes I did check this. What will testing phone with ATT sim card do? Phone is advertised as unlocked and rooted. What am I missing?
For 3g, T-Mobile USA exclusively uses the AWS 1700/2100 MHz frequency-band, and ATT uses the 850/2100 MHz band, so a special batch of N1's were made for ATT with different hardware. If a friend's ATT sim card picks up a 3G signal, it means you can't pick up T-mobile usa.
You said the phone was advertised as unlocked and rooted. The thing to check would be to ask if the phone is compatible with ATT's 3G bands or T-mobile's 3g bands. "Unlocked for all GMS carriers" for example, only tells you that it works on all EDGE networks. I haven't seen a Nexus One that can run both 3G networks, but they may exist. (Was there anything in the ad specifically about the 3g bands?)
The ATT Nexus One is more rare, you may be able to sell or trade with someone in the marketplace here on xda or on the internet somewhere.
Sanity check: shut down the phone, take off your battery cover, remove the battery and tell us the FCC ID. It's in the second of three lines of text below where the barcodes are.
My AWS (T-Mobile) Nexus One says:
FCC ID: NM8PB99100
If you have the AT&T version it should say:
FCC ID: NM8PB99110
Note the single-digit difference. If you have the AT&T version you'll want to trade it with someone else who has the T-Mobile version in order to get 3G. If this is the case, you're in luck, because the AT&T version is discontinued and lots of people would be very happy to obtain one from you.
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Sanity check: shut down the phone, take off your battery cover, remove the battery and tell us the FCC ID. It's in the second of three lines of text below where the barcodes are.
My AWS (T-Mobile) Nexus One says:
FCC ID: NM8PB99100
If you have the AT&T version it should say:
FCC ID: NM8PB99110
Note the single-digit difference. If you have the AT&T version you'll want to trade it with someone else who has the T-Mobile version in order to get 3G. If this is the case, you're in luck, because the AT&T version is discontinued and lots of people would be very happy to obtain one from you.
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Thanks for the information. You hit the nail on the head! The phone is marked as one of the early AT&T Unlocked models. I also had one of my friends put his AT&T card in the phone and it picked up 3g just fine. I spoke to seller of this phone on ebay and he said he would take item back. IS THERE ANY WAY TO FIX THIS PROBLEM SO THAT PHONE WILL WORK ON T-MOBILE?
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IS THERE ANY WAY TO FIX THIS PROBLEM SO THAT PHONE WILL WORK ON T-MOBILE?
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hmm...I don't think so.
Take it back to the seller or trade with someone
As many already stated in the thread (starting with me), you have AT&T Nexus, and there is NO WAY to make it work with T-Mobile. But, as also stated, you're lucky - lot of people will probably be happy to trade with you or buy it from you.
I just got a flawless AT&T Nexus One for next to nada $150 from a guy that heads up the IT department at a hospital, he had bought over a dozen f them and I mistakenly thought that since they were Google Nexus devices and since I had a "android data plan" and because I could make and receive calls and get on the web that all was good! What I didn't realize is that I'd be stuck on EDGE for good, they only real downside is that I cannot be on a call and surf the web at the same time, I'm just glad I got a pristine phone that's outta warranty, and running 2.3.6 (stock) and for only $150! Also I've always been a physical keyboard guy, so darn I get EDGE... I run the fastest web on my WEP encrypted network at home and hop on the VPN network at school, and now that the bastards at TMOB don't offer (unlimited) I really don't use alot of data anyways cause I don't goto social networking sites neways!
Any one wanting to trade a TMOB NEXUS ONE for a ATT NEXUS ONE??
Has anyone else been having issues in regards to service for the past couple of days? My internet speeds on my Hero have dropped to double digits (for download...upload is still ~400-800ish as it has always been). At first I thought it was my ROM (I was using AOSPCmod), but then i flashed to a different one (LiquidSense) and I'm still having the same issue. It shows the roaming indicator on LiquidSense. On AOSPCmod it says something about International Data Roaming.
My roommate claims to be having issues with his Evo 4g too so I'm hoping it's something on Sprints end, but I just wanted to see if anyone else was experiencing the same thing.
Don't know. Have you already contacted customer support to confirm?
My service has been fine. I'm north in the wells branch/mopac area.
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South by southwest brings in lots of people. Bet it just bogged the system down is all
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Yep.. Downtown in areas I usually had service, I had no service or was roaming.. Data was only 1x on my hero.. It's all been much better this week. Unfortunately, I am stuck w/ an Airave at my house, but a new tower has gone up right across the street from me, and it's Sprint -- so just waiting for them to activate it.
Basically my old Sensation is screaming die and I have my eyes on the Moto X, but I can't decide if I should wait and stick with T-Mobile or switch to AT&T. Main things I'm considering:
I would like to use Moto Maker, which AT&T has for at least 2 months (according to rumors).
T-Mobile should be getting the black or white versions "soon."
T-Mobile's plans are $10-20 per month cheaper for my situation, assuming current cost estimates of the Moto X.
T-Mobile might have less bloatware (no carrier branding in the notification area).
I guess what it really comes down to: Is AT&T's network/user experience that much better than T-Mobile's to justify the increased cost, bloatware, and exclusive customization? While the weight of Moto Maker is definitely a personal thing, please let me know your thoughts on the difference in the networks? Having only used a smartphone the T-mobile network, I just don't know if there would even be a discernible difference.
Thanks! :good:
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Basically my old Sensation is screaming die and I have my eyes on the Moto X, but I can't decide if I should wait and stick with T-Mobile or switch to AT&T. Main things I'm considering:
I would like to use Moto Maker, which AT&T has for at least 2 months (according to rumors).
T-Mobile should be getting the black or white versions "soon."
T-Mobile's plans are $10-20 per month cheaper for my situation, assuming current cost estimates of the Moto X.
T-Mobile might have less bloatware (no carrier branding in the notification area).
I guess what it really comes down to: Is AT&T's network/user experience that much better than T-Mobile's to justify the increased cost, bloatware, and exclusive customization? While the weight of Moto Maker is definitely a personal thing, please let me know your thoughts on the difference in the networks? Having only used a smartphone the T-mobile network, I just don't know if there would even be a discernible difference.
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It will vary from city to city, but unless I was really strapped for cash, I'd pay $10 extra for AT&T. Here in DC, I'm always on LTE on ATT, but on T-Mobile I'd say I saw edge at least a couple of times per week.
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There is surprisingly little bloatware on the at&t model.
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There is surprisingly little bloatware on the at&t model.
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Good to know thanks! I guess my only worries with respect to the bloatware is the AT&T logo in the notification area and something about an app that constantly popups asking to use it when calling someone (or something like that, it may have just been speculation I read).
I was going to start a new topic, but this forum is essentially the subject I wanted to ask about:
I'm thinking about getting the T-Mobile version of the Moto X because from everything I've read in these forums it's a bloatware-free device and has an unlocked SIM and (maybe) an unlockable bootloader.
I'd get the device to use on AT&T. What are the disadvantages of doing this (if any)?
-It sounds like there could be issues activating? Should I count on any such issues being surmountable?
-Will I receive over-the-air software updates?
-Will signal strength be in any way impacted?
-Will I have all the frequencies I need? I saw someone write that the T-Mobile version supports LTE bands 4 , 12 , 17 and the AT&T version supports bands 2, 4, 5, 17. It seems like in the USA AT&T only uses 4 and 17?
-What about 3G and voice signals?
-Using the phone overseas, say, Europe?
-Will any of this affect battery life compared with just using an AT&T phone on the AT&T network?
-People have said that if you unlock the bootloader you void the warranty. Whose warranty--Motorola's? Would this include dropping the phone and breaking the glass? I was considering getting an extended warranty--would someone like SquareTrade care about an unlocked bootloader if physical damage occurred?
Lastly, people have said that the AT&T version of the phone is not bad in terms of bloatware. Does anyone think it makes more sense to just get the AT&T version of the phone?
That's a lot of questions. Any insight into any of them will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
This might help you guys to decide:
The reason T-Mobile users need to get this model is because it's the only Moto X which supports T-Mobile's HSPA+ 42 network on the AWS band. The AT&T-compatible Moto X supports T-Mobile's LTE, but not the HSPA band, which means that if you fall off of LTE you'll be in T-Mobile's much more limited, slower 1900MHz HSPA+ 21 coverage.
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I was going to start a new topic, but this forum is essentially the subject I wanted to ask about:
I'm thinking about getting the T-Mobile version of the Moto X because from everything I've read in these forums it's a bloatware-free device and has an unlocked SIM and (maybe) an unlockable bootloader.
I'd get the device to use on AT&T. What are the disadvantages of doing this (if any)?
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Okay, I'll answer what I can here. I just got my tmo Moto X from the recent discount and I have lines with both T-Mobile and AT&T.
-It sounds like there could be issues activating? Should I count on any such issues being surmountable?
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I had no issues swapping either operator's SIM into my phone. It was SIM unlocked out of the box and the AT&T SIM worked great--native tethering even worked without a mod (sadly still see no solution for native tmo tethering).
-Will I receive over-the-air software updates?
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I would expect you to receive the same OTA updates as anyone running a tmo Moto X regardless of the att SIM.
-Will signal strength be in any way impacted?
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No. Many AT&T devices display more bars for a given signal strength than the same device on other operators (i.e. AT&T falsely makes signal look better than it is); I don't know if the AT&T Moto X does that or not, but it's just a display thing and not an actual difference.
-Will I have all the frequencies I need? I saw someone write that the T-Mobile version supports LTE bands 4 , 12 , 17 and the AT&T version supports bands 2, 4, 5, 17. It seems like in the USA AT&T only uses 4 and 17?
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My understanding is that those frequencies are correct. I get LTE on both operators just fine.
-What about 3G and voice signals?
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I haven't had any issues with either. Your frequency bands are all covered for everything AT&T does here in the US.
-Using the phone overseas, say, Europe?
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The AT&T version may be more likely to get LTE there--I am not familiar with the LTE bands used in Europe--but neither will have trouble attaching to the various European 3G networks (assuming you somehow convince AT&T to give you a SIM unlock code, or pay for one). Also if you include Canada in your calculations, a number of their networks will benefit from HSPA over AWS.
-Will any of this affect battery life compared with just using an AT&T phone on the AT&T network?
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It shouldn't.
-People have said that if you unlock the bootloader you void the warranty. Whose warranty--Motorola's? Would this include dropping the phone and breaking the glass? I was considering getting an extended warranty--would someone like SquareTrade care about an unlocked bootloader if physical damage occurred?
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Yes, Motorola's warranty. As for other stuff, you'd have to ask SquareTrade (or whoever) to be sure, but I don't really see how unlocking the bootloader would make them reluctant to replace your cracked-glass phone.
Lastly, people have said that the AT&T version of the phone is not bad in terms of bloatware. Does anyone think it makes more sense to just get the AT&T version of the phone?
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If you're buying unlocked anyway, I think the tmo version is an easy choice unless you desperately need a new nano-SIM (though I think AT&T will give you one for free if you drop by a store). The bloatware may not be that bad on the AT&T version, but you have to use some awkward hacks to get system r/w and the like. Of course if you're willing to do that, then you can kill the bloatware anyway.
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No. Many AT&T devices display more bars for a given signal strength than the same device on other operators (i.e. AT&T falsely makes signal look better than it is); I don't know if the AT&T Moto X does that or not, but it's just a display thing and not an actual difference.
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Funny you should mention that. The AT&T 4.4 build has 5 bars to display the cellular signal strength, the tmobile 4.4 build only has 4. It is quite odd they are not the same, wonder who wanted something different...
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Funny you should mention that. The AT&T 4.4 build has 5 bars to display the cellular signal strength, the tmobile 4.4 build only has 4. It is quite odd they are not the same, wonder who wanted something different...
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I believe AT&T using five bars vs. T-Mobile's four predates their cheating on signal strength, but I could be wrong. I've only been a T-Mobile customer for about a year (and have now almost entirely phased out AT&T, woohoo!).
The lesson is that signal bars are misleading at best, meaningless and confounding at worst. Check the numeric signal strength if you're interested in knowing how good your signal really is.
Super-awesome reply! Thank you so much for taking the time to answer my questions. It really helps my decision process (I'm feeling emboldened to go for the T-Mobile version), and I'm sure this will help others as well. Thanks again!
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Okay, I'll answer what I can here. I just got my tmo Moto X from the recent discount and I have lines with both T-Mobile and AT&T.
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As someone who just received his discounted Off-Contract T-Mobile Moto X, I have to recommend it. I got the $150 promotional discount and was curious myself as to which carrier version to buy. From all of the information gathered here on XDA, I made the choice to go with T-Mobile (and have no regrets, yet). I'd go into details on why I chose T-Mobile and such, but teiglin has already provided great (and accurate) answers to your questions.
So instead, I'll give you a quick recap:
- The T-Mobile version of the Moto X has absolutely no branding that I can find. Literally the only T-Mobile symbol I could find on the phone (software or hardware) was inside of it, on the T-Mobile Nano-SIM card.
- [From what I've read: motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/87215/] The T-Mobile version is essentially the developer's edition without the additional warranty coverage for unlocking your bootloader.
- The T-Mobile version of the Moto X has almost the same frequency bands as the AT&T version (except it also supports the HSDPA 1700 MHz band and doesn't support the LTE 850 MHz band)
Copied from GSMArena: gsmarena.com/motorola_moto_x-5601.php
2G Network
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 - all versions
CDMA 800 / 1900 - for Verizon, Sprint3G Network
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 - for AT&T, Verizon
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 - for T-Mobile
CDMA2000 1xEV-DO - for Verizon
HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100 - for Sprint4G Network
LTE 700 / 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 - for AT&T
LTE 700 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 - for T-Mobile
LTE 700 MHz Class 13 - for Verizon
LTE 1900 - for Sprint
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My Moto X usage:
I'm a former AT&T customer, having recently switched to Straight Talk through their BYOP (Bring Your Own Phone) program. I was still using the Motorola Atrix with a Mini-SIM card purchased from Straight Talk (the AT&T compatible one).
After receiving the $150 promo code and remembering the $100 old Motorola phones trade in program, it seemed like the right time to make the move and upgrade ($500 retail down to $250 after rebates/promotions). I placed my order on December 5th and was told it would arrive by the 10th (came on the 11th due to snow).
Once I got my Moto X, all I had to do was cut my Mini-SIM card down to a Nano-SIM card. Templates can be found here: airportal.de/nanosim/. Aside from the network cutting in and out (lasted for the first 10 minutes or so), I've had no problems since. I have access to 4G LTE and everything else seems to be working fine (haven't tried tethering yet).
In the end, I'd recommend the T-Mobile version just because there is no branding and it works fine on the AT&T network as well.
Thanks for adding to teiglin's reply! Good information for anyone interested in this phone!
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As someone who just received his discounted Off-Contract T-Mobile Moto X, I have to recommend it. I got the $150 promotional discount and was curious myself as to which carrier version to buy. From all of the information gathered here on XDA, I made the choice to go with T-Mobile (and have no regrets, yet). I'd go into details on why I chose T-Mobile and such, but teiglin has already provided great (and accurate) answers to your questions.
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semaj1919 said:
As someone who just received his discounted Off-Contract T-Mobile Moto X, I have to recommend it. I got the $150 promotional discount and was curious myself as to which carrier version to buy. From all of the information gathered here on XDA, I made the choice to go with T-Mobile (and have no regrets, yet). I'd go into details on why I chose T-Mobile and such, but teiglin has already provided great (and accurate) answers to your questions.
So instead, I'll give you a quick recap:
- The T-Mobile version of the Moto X has absolutely no branding that I can find. Literally the only T-Mobile symbol I could find on the phone (software or hardware) was inside of it, on the T-Mobile Nano-SIM card.
- [From what I've read: motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/87215/] The T-Mobile version is essentially the developer's edition without the additional warranty coverage for unlocking your bootloader.
- The T-Mobile version of the Moto X has almost the same frequency bands as the AT&T version (except it also supports the HSDPA 1700 MHz band and doesn't support the LTE 850 MHz band)
My Moto X usage:
I'm a former AT&T customer, having recently switched to Straight Talk through their BYOP (Bring Your Own Phone) program. I was still using the Motorola Atrix with a Mini-SIM card purchased from Straight Talk (the AT&T compatible one).
After receiving the $150 promo code and remembering the $100 old Motorola phones trade in program, it seemed like the right time to make the move and upgrade ($500 retail down to $250 after rebates/promotions). I placed my order on December 5th and was told it would arrive by the 10th (came on the 11th due to snow).
Once I got my Moto X, all I had to do was cut my Mini-SIM card down to a Nano-SIM card. Templates can be found here: airportal.de/nanosim/. Aside from the network cutting in and out (lasted for the first 10 minutes or so), I've had no problems since. I have access to 4G LTE and everything else seems to be working fine (haven't tried tethering yet).
In the end, I'd recommend the T-Mobile version just because there is no branding and it works fine on the AT&T network as well.
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I got the TMO version for use on AT&T. No branding at all.
I went to the AT&T store and they put in a new sim. I'm getting perfect service though I only see the 4G at the top. Wondering if I should also be seeing 4GLTE? Is there something else I need to do to get LTE speeds? Or am I already getting them and just don't see it?
Look here in xda, you won't get lte unless ATT registers your Moto with an imei from another ATT Moto. I had the same issue. There's a post here in xda where you will see what I had to do and who helped me
Rocking the new Moto X
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likeybikey said:
-People have said that if you unlock the bootloader you void the warranty. Whose warranty--Motorola's? Would this include dropping the phone and breaking the glass? I was considering getting an extended warranty--would someone like SquareTrade care about an unlocked bootloader if physical damage occurred?
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I remember reading somewhere a chat between a potential customer and a Motorola rep. The rep said that unlocking it voids the entire warranty with Motorola, hardware included. So you would have to check with whoever else you could get the warranty with.
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I got the TMO version for use on AT&T. No branding at all.
I went to the AT&T store and they put in a new sim. I'm getting perfect service though I only see the 4G at the top. Wondering if I should also be seeing 4GLTE? Is there something else I need to do to get LTE speeds? Or am I already getting them and just don't see it?
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Sorry for the late response. I actually had to check my phone a few times just to confirm my thoughts before posting them here. I can't really comment on 4G and 4G LTE for AT&T, because I have Straight Talk. But from what I've read, I believe Straight Talk piggy-backs on AT&T's network as is, so I'd imagine it'd have to be similar.
I've been noticing the 4G icon in the notification bar also indicates 'LTE', although not all the time. There are times where I also see only the 4G icon without the 'LTE' symbol, during which speed tests have been much slower. Can't confirm what r_diaz13 posted, and I don't know if what he's saying applies to people on Straight Talk's network.
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Look here in xda, you won't get lte unless ATT registers your Moto with an imei from another ATT Moto. I had the same issue. There's a post here in xda where you will see what I had to do and who helped me
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This is WRONG.
Totally NOT necessary to use an IMEI from a different LTE phone.
I just activated an XT1053 (the TMo version, which is SIM unlocked).
Put in an AT&T nano-sim card which I picked up from my AT&T company owned store.
Called in to activate the card -- but asked to talk to 2nd level support since I knew 1st level would NOT be able to help and likely tell me the same kind of dumb stuff I've seen posted about how to get the phone to work.
2nd level support was great -- and because I knew what I was talking about, it took less than 5 min to take care of what is necessary.
You will need to manually enter MMSC and MMS Proxy in the APN settings
MMSC should be:
-https://mmsc.mobile.att.net-
don't enter with the dash at front and back, the forum doesn't let you post what they think are links if you are new.
MMS proxy should be:
proxy.mobile.att.net
Just as an FYI -- these settings are BURIED (you cannot see them) on the AT&T version --
And these settings are NOT DOWNLOADED AUTOMATICALLY via SIM card (I thought they might be).
You can confirm whether you are getting LTE service not only by the indicator in the status bar up at the top with signal strength but by going into ABOUT PHONE from the Settings menu (scroll all the way down). Then in that menu, click on STATUS. Here you will scroll down and see the battery level, network signal strength and mobile network type.
If you are getting 4G only, it would should HSPA+.
If you are getting LTE, it will show LTE here.
Hope that helps.
I'm just a bit weary of seeing the wrong information on this and hope this helps others out. The TMo version works great on AT&T, you just have to enter the MMSC and MMS proxy manually and you should be good to go.
Did you have an LTE plan before? I'm telling you it is true. The xda member that helped me out is an att employee who works at a att store and he was the only one able to do it. He told me since I didn't have an lte plan before it wouldn't just pick up lte. ATT has to end other feature in the account. When I gave then the tmo imei, it shows up as gsm only, not lte.
So if you already have lte, you are good to go with just a simple sim swap. If you don't have lte already, you need to follow these steps. Nothing to do with APN settings or anything.
Rocking the new Moto X
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Did you have an LTE plan before? I'm telling you it is true. The xda member that helped me out is an att employee who works at a att store and he was the only one able to do it. He told me since I didn't have an lte plan before it wouldn't just pick up lte. ATT has to end other feature in the account. When I gave then the tmo imei, it shows up as gsm only, not lte.
So if you already have lte, you are good to go with just a simple sim swap. If you don't have lte already, you need to follow these steps. Nothing to do with APN settings or anything.
Rocking the new Moto X
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This is wrong information -- hopefully people here read through to get the accurate information.
I did NOT have an LTE plan before (I had a Moto Atrix 4G, which gave me HSPA+ service).
When I gave them the IMEI from the TMo Moto X I purchased, I asked them specifically, what does it show in your system?
2nd level support told me it was a non-ATT version of the Moto X -- totally accurate.
She then knew exactly what settings were needed (as I noted above in my post) to be entered. These settings are not shown anywhere on the AT&T version of the Moto X (again, I know because I have 3 of those that I unlocked).
To be clear to anyone else thinking of getting the TMo version of the Moto X. You do not need to lie and give them some other IMEI. You simply need to make sure you have those settings input into your phone. As soon as they were entered, my TMo XT1053 showed LTE service.
Please do not continue to give out wrong information -- this may have solved the problem for you (to give a different IMEI), but it is totally not necessary. I have seen people asking about how they are supposed to get an LTE IMEI to activate a nano sim card and get LTE service. It is not necessary on the TMo version (now Moto says this is the GSM unlocked version -- which is really more accurate because it has absolutely NO BRANDING and no other software from any provider -- and is exactly the same as the Dev Edition except for the fact that the Dev edition can be bootloader unlocked and retain its warranty).
I have the Dev Version (same as T-Mobile) running on Straight Talk with AT&T. Other than one small configuration issue in the phone settings LTE is working fine.
I bought my nexus 6 from Motorola.com, so it's unlocked, unbranded. I live in Minneapolis, right in the city, which is one of the markets recently launched with the coveted Band 12. BUT from what I can tell my phone is still connecting on good old AWS spectrum whether on LTE or HSPA. I'm using both LTE Discovery and SignalCheck Pro for stats on my LTE connection. I have yet to see band 12. I'm wondering if anyone else is having a similar experience? I've contacted T-Mobile and they say that they only support basically the most recent Samsung devices (Note 4, etc.) and a particular ZTE hotspot device on band 12. Does ANYONE know if the next android update is supposed to "enable" band 12 on the N6 for T-Mobile, because I was basically told by a T-Mobile phone rep that a software update would enable that feature on some existing phones. But since this phone has that band already and is unlocked and unbranded, and doesn't run custom T-Mobile firmware, I assumed it would pick up whatever airwaves are nearby.
OR is it just my crummy luck and other N6 users ARE seeing band 12 in the markets where available?
I do not think all of Minneapolis is covered in band 12 yet. You could be in a area that doesn't have it or band 4 could be better in the area so the phone connects to that. T-Mobile did say wifi calling was coming to the N6 at one point so maybe that will be when band 12 will be used. Unless you can get a note 4 in the area you are at that shows band 12 being used with the N6 still on band 4, I would just wait and see. I work in Eagan, MN and I have yet to see any phone connect to band 12. I do work in a T-Mo Corp store.
I've been wondering the same thing....
I'm in Dallas and have yet to see band 12 on my T-mobile Nexus 6.
I don't think Dallas is part of the fun yet... http://newsroom.t-mobile.com/issues-insights-blog/uncarrier-8-blog.htm
T-Mobile holds 700mhz spectrum throughout much of the state, south-central, central, and northwestern. When they first launched 3G they covered the entire metro area, Minneapolis, St. Paul, and first, second, and third tier suburbs. So I doubt this is an issue of coverage, but rather accessibility. Especially since I'm constantly traveling throughout the metro and well beyond into greater Minnesota.
So my question remains, is there anyone with a Nexus 6 in a 700mhz market that IS seeing service on band 12?
There are a bunch of people on the Note 4 picking up band 12 in Dallas. (see reddit and howardforums)
If that's true then have you heard of any Nexus users in the area picking up band 12?
Nope
This is killing me. It's the biggest reason I bought an N6 vs the OnePlus.
I put a post up on /r/tmobile (can't link) asking if anyone has seen band 12, nothing yet.
Here
http://www.spectrumgateway.com/compatible-phones
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http://www.spectrumgateway.com/compatible-phones
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According to T-Mobile the only devices on THAT list currently supported on band 12 are the Samsung phones, I think one or both of those Samsung tablets and the ZTE hotspot, not the phone. That from a support rep with T-Mobile.
But since I have a directly purchased nexus rather than a carrier bought one I assumed it would be free of carrier imposed restrictions. I explained this to a tech support rep on the phone and he said a future software update would enable the band on some phones. Which again left me a little confused because the phone came from Motorola.com and I thought it was Google who pushes the updates... Not the carrier. I know in the case of most phones that run even light carrier customizations it's generally the carrier who pushes the updates once they've been tailored to the carrier's needs and specs.
I know T-Mobile boasts that their Nexus devices are unlocked and unbranded, but I had a Nexus 5 bought from Google while a friend had one that came from T-Mobile. Both phones running the same version of Android with the same build number, kernel number, baseband, etc. The one thing that seemed to set them apart is he couldn't successfully use his hotspot service on his phone, while I am able to without limits or restrictions. So I'm not sure how they pulled that off. On the carrier side or software side. If it's carrier side then how come I wasn't met with the same restrictions. If it's software, then how did our phone have all the same version numbers. And I wonder how that same question applies to the Nexus 6 and band 12.
T-mobile site says software update coming early 2015 to support band 12. Can't link it but it's under coverage.
How are you folks checking to see what band you are on? They recently upgrading my area to 4G after years of Edge that didn't really do data and I'm curious if its band 12 since my wifes HTC One (M7) doesn't seem to pick up the signal.
I use two apps; 'LTE Discovery' & 'SignalCheck Pro'.
SignalCheck Pro is nice because it gives me a constant visual on my network connection via the status bar and the lock-screen
YES
http://www.tmonews.com/2015/01/nexu...ill-receive-updates-to-enable-700mhz-support/
jeromeindahouse said:
YES
http://www.tmonews.com/2015/01/nexu...ill-receive-updates-to-enable-700mhz-support/
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Too bad they won't narrow it down better. Early 2015? Well it's the end of January. I consider that early 2015.
presstech said:
Too bad they won't narrow it down better. Early 2015? Well it's the end of January. I consider that early 2015.
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Right?! Some rumors have been saying a big update was coming for the N6 in February, so...
Also this still doesn't answer the question of whether the updates mentioned by T-Mobile will be applied to T-Mobile purchased Nexus devices or all Nexus 6's
I would assume it's part of an update rolling out to all 6's
jeromeindahouse said:
Right?! Some rumors have been saying a big update was coming for the N6 in February, so...
Also this still doesn't answer the question of whether the updates mentioned by T-Mobile will be applied to T-Mobile purchased Nexus devices or all Nexus 6's
I would assume it's part of an update rolling out to all 6's
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Maybe it's if you have a T-Mobile sim in your phone. If it goes out that way then it shouldn't matter where you got the phone from. It would know that the phone is on their network with the sim and maybe push the update to you.
Just guessing.
simplyTravis said:
How are you folks checking to see what band you are on? They recently upgrading my area to 4G after years of Edge that didn't really do data and I'm curious if its band 12 since my wifes HTC One (M7) doesn't seem to pick up the signal.
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Because the htc one m7 doesn't have the capability to work with band 12, even if it was enabled in software. It works on band 17 though (which is the upper part of that 700 mhz block).
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Too bad they won't narrow it down better. Early 2015? Well it's the end of January. I consider that early 2015.
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If they're going by quarters, then by the end of March.
I have a T-Mobile retail 1st gen ( xt1053 ) that has been on AT+T since new with no issues. Now, since updating to the OTA 5.1 I've lost LTE. I get 4G, but I've confirmed I'm getting HPSA+ speeds only, and the notification lists "4G" whereas before the update to Loillipop it specified LTE. I've kept it stock since the update and everything else works, just no LTE.
Again, before the update I *did* get LTE. I've read about AT&T needing to "provision" an account for LTE, and that maybe this wouldn't be automatic if you were using a non-AT&T phone, but since i had LTE before with this phone, and the only change was the update, I don't know if that could be the issue.
Anybody else run into this ?
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I have a T-Mobile retail 1st gen ( xt1053 ) that has been on AT+T since new with no issues. Now, since updating to the OTA 5.1 I've lost LTE. I get 4G, but I've confirmed I'm getting HPSA+ speeds only, and the notification lists "4G" whereas before the update to Loillipop it specified LTE. I've kept it stock since the update and everything else works, just no LTE.
Again, before the update I *did* get LTE. I've read about AT&T needing to "provision" an account for LTE, and that maybe this wouldn't be automatic if you were using a non-AT&T phone, but since i had LTE before with this phone, and the only change was the update, I don't know if that could be the issue.
Anybody else run into this ?
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Unfortunately don't know the reason for that, would think something in the settings, or some update to the modem/radio?
But do have a question -my friend has the same phone Retail XT1053 using AT&T, but doesn't get LTE, at least wasn't before 5.0, will assume still not.
Wondering if you had to change any settings to get LTE -AT&T said it's not possible on that phone, but did see some posts in the past about changing some settings to get LTE (i.e, settings under data to automatic, etc) but his doesn't have the options mentioned.
Hope you get it figured out, will be interested, too
Family has 4 XT1053's on AT&T for the past 15 months and we all get LTE. Didn't have to do anything special. They put nano SIMs in our phones at one of their company retail stores, and it just works. Was roaming in Canada last week on Rodgers, and got LTE there as well. Don't remember having to do anything with the APN setting either. The XT1053 is missing one of the AT&T LTE bands which is on their model, but didn't think they were using that band in the US yet. Maybe that has changed and that band is used in your area. None of us have upgraded to 5.1 yet so can't comment on changes from the new OS.
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But do have a question -my friend has the same phone Retail XT1053 using AT&T, but doesn't get LTE, at least wasn't before 5.0, will assume still not.
Wondering if you had to change any settings to get LTE -AT&T said it's not possible on that phone, but did see some posts in the past about changing some settings to get LTE (i.e, settings under data to automatic, etc) but his doesn't have the options mentioned.
Hope you get it figured out, will be interested, too
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When I switched from my Galaxy S2 on AT+T to the xt1053 I didn't have to change anything. I did have the same issue for a few days, but then one day LTE was there. Since the S2 was a non-LTE phone I just figured there was something that needed to happen on the backend for AT&T to enable it. If you search online there are numerous people having the same issue for multiple phones - usually non-AT&T specific unlocked models. Some people claim AT&T support was able to do something for them, others say that putting their SIM in an AT&T branded phone let it "register" and after that they got LTE. I didn't have to do either, it just came on after a couple days. I was about to go to the nearest AT&T store, but then LTE started working.
So...I don't know what the real fix was back then. Since I get good enough speed to stream, which is all I need, it's not critical, just annoying. It's been 2 weeks since I updated, so I'll probably head to the store this weekend to see if they can help.
larry62 said:
Family has 4 XT1053's on AT&T for the past 15 months and we all get LTE. Didn't have to do anything special. They put nano SIMs in our phones at one of their company retail stores, and it just works. Was roaming in Canada last week on Rodgers, and got LTE there as well. Don't remember having to do anything with the APN setting either. The XT1053 is missing one of the AT&T LTE bands which is on their model, but didn't think they were using that band in the US yet. Maybe that has changed and that band is used in your area. None of us have upgraded to 5.1 yet so can't comment on changes from the new OS.
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Thanks. I went with the friend that has the XT1053 to a company AT&T store, showed them my phone, too, which is an AT&T branded XT1058 with LTE -he did seem a bit confused, but claimed mine could because it was AT&T branded, that his didn't support the bands for LTE but obviously people are able to get LTE on the XT1053 with AT&T
And once again LTE appeared without me doing anything. This time it just took longer than when I originally got the phone. Today ( 3 weeks exactly after flashing the OTA Lollipop update ) it decided to connect via LTE and not "just" 4G. As I said in the original post, back when I first got the phone ( Xmas 2013 ) it look 2 or maybe 3 days before it connected to LTE.
I just wish I knew what the trigger was.
Anyway, working now.