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I just got an HTC Vivid in the mail today and i have an old Cingular Sim card that's capable of achieving the H+ technology in for example the htc inspire. Now since i live in Portland and there is no LTE yet only H+ why when i put my card in it will make and receive calls and texts but not let me connect to data. Note this is stock ics that the phone was shipped with.
My question is why cant my old Sim work if it can use H+ on my inspire but not on my vivid and also whats different about the newer Sim's then older ones?
Vicpdx18 said:
I just got an HTC Vivid in the mail today and i have an old Cingular Sim card that's capable of achieving the H+ technology in for example the htc inspire. Now since i live in Portland and there is no LTE yet only H+ why when i put my card in it will make and receive calls and texts but not let me connect to data. Note this is stock ics that the phone was shipped with.
My question is why cant my old Sim work if it can use H+ on my inspire but not on my vivid and also whats different about the newer Sim's then older ones?
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this has been asked before and it seems to have something to do with how new your sim card is...mine didnt have to be changed but provisioned for lte
and some have had to have theirs replaced.. here is the thread that it was it was talked about in
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1420310
hope you find what you was looking for
Vicpdx18 said:
I just got an HTC Vivid in the mail today and i have an old Cingular Sim card that's capable of achieving the H+ technology in for example the htc inspire. Now since i live in Portland and there is no LTE yet only H+ why when i put my card in it will make and receive calls and texts but not let me connect to data. Note this is stock ics that the phone was shipped with.
My question is why cant my old Sim work if it can use H+ on my inspire but not on my vivid and also whats different about the newer Sim's then older ones?
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The Vivid defaults to using the pta APN. The old SIM cannot connect to pta. You can manually make a legacy APN for wap.cingular or phone which will let you connect, but that's inadvisable.
I'd presume that the reason that a new SIM is required is because you're moving from a 3G technology to a 3-4G bridge technology. I don't know if you have the original Cingular GSM "64k SmartChip", but I had to upgrade that when I first got a 3G enabled phone.
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The Vivid defaults to using the pta APN. The old SIM cannot connect to pta. You can manually make a legacy APN for wap.cingular or phone which will let you connect, but that's inadvisable.
I'd presume that the reason that a new SIM is required is because you're moving from a 3G technology to a 3-4G bridge technology. I don't know if you have the original Cingular GSM "64k SmartChip", but I had to upgrade that when I first got a 3G enabled phone.
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oh i see yea i actually had the Cingular raising the bar one with the orange man logo on it also had blue orange and white color and it shows a 3G in flames. is that the original one?
I had that one, they gave me a new SIM at Best Buy.
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Yeah. It doesn't cost anything to get a new SIM. I had to get one for my daughter's phone.
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Vicpdx18 said:
oh i see yea i actually had the Cingular raising the bar one with the orange man logo on it also had blue orange and white color and it shows a 3G in flames. is that the original one?
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No, that's a 3G-enabled SIM card. It works on UMTS and HSPA, unlike the 64K SmartChip (the GSM SIM) that I had from when EDGE was the best thing since sliced bread. That's why you never needed to upgrade your SIM when faux-G hit on the Inspire.
When I upgraded to the SYNC (see sig), that was right before Cingular was bought by ATT. I had to get a new SIM at that point, and they gave me the one you describe. I had to get another one when I got the Shine, as the contacts on it had corroded (or something; the card refused to read); that time, I got one that said AT&T on it (it was a palette swap of the Cingular card). I was still forced to upgrade yet again when I got the Vivid.
im just going out on a limb here, but i would say it has to do with the apn settings since you have an old cingular sim in a new phone im guessing the apn has been updated for new technology advancements
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im just going out on a limb here, but i would say it has to do with the apn settings since you have an old cingular sim in a new phone im guessing the apn has been updated for new technology advancements
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APN settings are stored in the ROM, not the SIM. The SIM authenticates you with the APNs that it is provisioned for.
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I work for At&t, they lie about their data speeds. So basically, the phone might display H+ when your signal is really strong on 3G networks; the OTA updates on the Inspire wanted to make you feel like you were part of the fastest network At&t had to offer at the time. So if you didn't have a 3G sim, you were robbing yourself on speed capabilities, maybe barely but none-the-less. But Cingular SIM cards can only connect to 3G speeds at max. In other words, you're at the max speed for 3G which prompted the phone to display an H+ icon. The Vivid is an LTE capable phone and needs a SIM card with LTE capabilities in order for data to work, even though the new SIMs will also work on 3G, but not the other way around on cingular sims. Oddly enough, you will see a 4G icon when you're maxed out on HSDPA even though you may not be on true LTE networks...as is the case where I live. Hope this wasn't too confusing
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I work for At&t, they lie about their data speeds. So basically, the phone might display H+ when your signal is really strong on 3G networks; the OTA updates on the Inspire wanted to make you feel like you were part of the fastest network At&t had to offer at the time. So if you didn't have a 3G sim, you were robbing yourself on speed capabilities, maybe barely but none-the-less. But Cingular SIM cards can only connect to 3G speeds at max. In other words, you're at the max speed for 3G which prompted the phone to display an H+ icon. The Vivid is an LTE capable phone and needs a SIM card with LTE capabilities in order for data to work, even though the new SIMs will also work on 3G, but not the other way around on cingular sims. Oddly enough, you will see a 4G icon when you're maxed out on HSDPA even though you may not be on true LTE networks...as is the case where I live. Hope this wasn't too confusing
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Your explanation wasn't confusing IMO. Their rationale is just plain stupid.
Gotta love America and its false advertising.
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I see what you mean everyone yea i actually went in the other day to a store and got a new one for LTE even though there is no LTE in Oregon yet. But i do understand because i did use my Cingular Sim in my vivid and calling/texting did work fine just the data did not work so pretty much for faster internet you need a Sim card that can be provisioned for LTE is what im hearing. Also for the newer tech you need a new one
You can add another APN setting very easily until you can get a new LTE provishoned SIM....THE NEW APN will give you 2g, 3g, HSPA+, Text and Voice....then when you get the new LTE Sim...you can go back and set it to the APN that is named pta....
Let me know by replying if you need the settings for the wap.congular APN and I will post...
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maddie01 said:
You can add another APN setting very easily until you can get a new LTE provishoned SIM....THE NEW APN will give you 2g, 3g, HSPA+, Text and Voice....then when you get the new LTE Sim...you can go back and set it to the APN that is named pta....
Let me know by replying if you need the settings for the wap.congular APN and I will post...
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Well you should post it just for anyone who needs it. I actually got an LTE Sim not to long ago so im good on that front.
Thanks!!!
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I work for At&t, they lie about their data speeds. So basically, the phone might display H+ when your signal is really strong on 3G networks; ..........................................................................................
Oddly enough, you will see a 4G icon when you're maxed out on HSDPA even though you may not be on true LTE networks...as is the case where I live. Hope this wasn't too confusing
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Thanks for telling us what many of us probably suspected. I have always thought that most of what we are told is just "marketing hype" until proven otherwise. Much like the burger commercials tha make the subject look soooo tantalizing and huge when in fact it might taste great but is not THAT large.
It is nice to have someone on the inside share "reality" with us!!!
Is there a way to put my current phone service on a Verizon DROID 4? My phone has no SIM chip, the DROID does. Is there a way to do this? Please someone point me in the right direction, my current phone is so beat and I'd love to learn this but haven't heard anyone talk about this. WHy do some phones have SIM chips and others don't?
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Is there a way to put my current phone service on a Verizon DROID 4? My phone has no SIM chip, the DROID does. Is there a way to do this? Please someone point me in the right direction, my current phone is so beat and I'd love to learn this but haven't heard anyone talk about this. WHy do some phones have SIM chips and others don't?
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The SIM is there for LTE&GSM service, the Droid4 is an LTE&GSM enabled phone.
Verizon's network isn't GSM though, it is a CDMA phone, so they use the SIM slot for LTE only. You will need to update some CDMA settings, your best bet is to take your phone into a Verizon shop and have them set it up for you!
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Verizon's network isn't GSM though, it is a CDMA phone, so they use the SIM slot for LTE only.
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Not true. The CDMA settings are in the SIM cards too for 4G phones on Verizon. I switch my SIM card between different 4G phones I have and it knows who I am when making calls, texting, 3G and 4G.
But you right, you have to go to Verizon so they can provision a SIM card for your account. Its free and pretty simple to do. After that, no more ESN/MEID swaps!
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Not true. The CDMA settings are in the SIM cards too for 4G phones on Verizon. I switch my SIM card between different 4G phones I have and it knows who I am when making calls, texting, 3G and 4G.
But you right, you have to go to Verizon so they can provision a SIM card for your account. Its free and pretty simple to do. After that, no more ESN/MEID swaps!
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but Im trying to put my boost
account on the phone. its not illegal, but I dont think verizon will help me, rite?
Does anyone know if the Sprint version will have the removable sim? Or are they going to go w/ the embedded like they have for most of their other LTE phones? I haven't been able to find anything definitive one way or the other.
The micro sim tray will be removable
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Of note, the Sprint One is among the first of the carrier's LTE devices to offer a replaceable SIM.
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Kilmar said:
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That is so beautiful to hear. I have a SocBlue to use if I had to, but a removeable SIM is something I was hoping for. Thanks for the reference.
yes it does
HTC EVO LTE
Just went to Engadget and found that article. In my defense I had actually done quite a bit of research yesterday and couldn't find the answer.
S4GRU has a nice write up
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/entry-342-updated-all-for-htc-one-htc-one-for-all/
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The micro sim tray will be removable
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Is it a sim card or a uicc card?
What exactly is the benefit? I am assuming overseas benefits perhaps? With HTC and Google for contacts backups, having a sim card seems somewhat pointless these days... then again, I have been with sprint ever since the nokia dominated cellphones.
MSGaldenzi said:
What exactly is the benefit? I am assuming overseas benefits perhaps? With HTC and Google for contacts backups, having a sim card seems somewhat pointless these days... then again, I have been with sprint ever since the nokia dominated cellphones.
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Primarily for switching sims overseas.
i think the micro sim will be use for this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2160160
HTC EVO LTE
According to the FCC filing tho it only lists the 800 as a cdma frequency and not LTE, band 25 at 1900 is only lte in it... Unless theres some hidden surprise we will discover down the road. Outside that I don't see what this sim card slot will really yeld us in the states outside of 3rd party carrier lte support that shares sprints network on the 1900 band...
Sprint HTC ONE has replaceable SIM
Looks like the Sprint HTC ONE has a replaceable SIM
http://www.engadget.com/2013/04/08/htc-one-for-att-sprint-review/
For those of you just getting around to cross-shopping the HTC One against other devices, we'll give you a lightning tour of the handset. On board, you've got a standard micro-USB / MHL port along the bottom edge, as well as a metal volume rocker on the right side, and a micro-SIM tray on the left. Of note, the Sprint One is among the first of the carrier's LTE devices to offer a replaceable SIM.
I was sending my phone in for repair, and was asked to remove the SIM tray and screen protector. I was surprised when I saw the SIM card, because I had always been told that CDMA does not use SIM cards...
Here's a look.
sauprankul said:
I was sending my phone in for repair, and was asked to remove the SIM tray and screen protector. I was surprised when I saw the SIM card, because I had always been told that CDMA does not use SIM cards...
Here's a look.
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My understanding is that CDMA doesn't use removable SIM cards, it's the advent of LTE that's moving the CDMA networks to SIM cards (although, apparently the HTC EVO LTE lacked a removable SIM).
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My understanding is that CDMA doesn't use removable SIM cards, it's the advent of LTE that's moving the CDMA networks to SIM cards (although, apparently the HTC EVO LTE lacked a removable SIM).
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The EVO 4G LTE did have one it was just not user accessible.
sauprankul said:
I was sending my phone in for repair, and was asked to remove the SIM tray and screen protector. I was surprised when I saw the SIM card, because I had always been told that CDMA does not use SIM cards...
Here's a look.
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Actually, you can provision CDMA service with SIM cards except that carriers in the Americas don't tend to do that. However, it is fairly common on CDMA networks in Asia.
CDMA phones have embedded Sim cards that are usually not accessible.
myphone12345 said:
Actually, you can provision CDMA service with SIM cards except that carriers in the Americas don't tend to do that. However, it is fairly common on CDMA networks in Asia.
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wait, so if i buy a Sprint HTC one and bring it over to my country (GSM only) and pay for an unlock code, would i be good to go?
mauaus said:
wait, so if i buy a Sprint HTC one and bring it over to my country (GSM only) and pay for an unlock code, would i be good to go?
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You might be, but you need to check that your radio frequencies are compatible. You certainly won't get LTE.
So I'm looking to upgrade but don't want to be stuck in another 2 yr contract. I'm thinking of using Verizon's edge program and getting the moto x and then paying the rest off when my contract is up at the end of the year. I would like to know if its possible to then go with an AT&T sim card and prepaid option in the same phone?
I have read all Verizon 4G phones come sim unlocked. I can't find either if the Verizon version comes with the GSM radios necessary to do this.
Any help on the subject would be great! Really tired of Verizon..
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Won't work. Vzw uses Cdma for voice and lte for data. Unless someone proves me wrong, the phone can't do voice calls on att network
gunnyman said:
Won't work. Vzw uses Cdma for voice and lte for data. Unless someone proves me wrong, the phone can't do voice calls on att network
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That is my understanding as well. Won't work. Networks incompatible.
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greenro89 said:
So I'm looking to upgrade but don't want to be stuck in another 2 yr contract. I'm thinking of using Verizon's edge program and getting the moto x and then paying the rest off when my contract is up at the end of the year. I would like to know if its possible to then go with an AT&T sim card and prepaid option in the same phone?
I have read all Verizon 4G phones come sim unlocked. I can't find either if the Verizon version comes with the GSM radios necessary to do this.
Any help on the subject would be great! Really tired of Verizon..
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The carrier issue aside (see above) you should not even consider upgrading with Edge unless you want to pay for you phone twice. It is a complete rip off.
All newer Verizon phones are gsm unlocked and will be able to do voice and most of them hspa+ data on ATT. Weather the lte will work really depends on the phone and what radios they put in it.
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Just checked for the moto x and no LTE but everything else should work just fine
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gunnyman said:
Won't work. Vzw uses Cdma for voice and lte for data. Unless someone proves me wrong, the phone can't do voice calls on att network
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It is possible to use a GSM carrier's sim in Verizon's phones for both voice and data. What would you like as Proof?
I don't have an X yet, but....
I have both Verizon and T-Mobile lines for work. (Verizon for personal).
My T-Mobile phone is a Galaxy S3. When T-Mo started supporting the iPhone, our corp rep swapped my sim to a T-Mo Nano SIM for me.
Since then, I have put my T-Mobile sim into my Verizon iPhone 5, VZW Galaxy S4, VZW BB Z10, VZW BB Q10, and VZW Nokia 928. Doing so works fine for voice, data and text messaging on T-Mobiles network, but at EDGE speeds since these VZW phones don't support the 1700mhz UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+ bands that T-Mo uses. They do support the 1900mhz band that ATT uses, but I don't have an ATT sim handy to pop them in.
Oh, and I did need to use a SIM adapter to convert between nano and micro since only the iPhone 5 uses Nano sim. I do not recall results of trying to SMS, I really don't sms anyway.
gunnyman said:
Won't work. Vzw uses Cdma for voice and lte for data. Unless someone proves me wrong, the phone can't do voice calls on att network
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I hate seeing this response all the time on Verizon devices. Most modern Verizon LTE phones do GSM just fine. Verizon used to call this being a "World Phone", but really all Verizon phones are world devices now. Galaxy S3/4, Note 2/3, all of Moto's phones, etc.
From the Verizon Moto X specs page:
Network
Network: LTE, CDMA/1xEVDO Rev. A (800/1900 MHz)
Global Network: EDGE/GSM (850/900/1800/1900), HSPA/UMTS( 850/900/1900/2100), HSDPA 42.2 Mbps (Category 20), HSUPA 5.76 Mbps
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I stand corrected and won't spread misinformation any more. Thanks for educating me.
Thanks everyone for all the replies! I have heard so many things and this clears the air for me.
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The Droid Ultra connects to At&t without any modification required:
http://www.droid-life.com/2013/08/22/droid-ultra-can-connect-to-atts-hspa-network-out-of-the-box/
In the past some phones on Verizon with GSM capabilities were software restricted from connecting to US GSM providers.
Since the X works on ATT it should work with a Straight Talk ATT Sim card right?
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i think in the past verizon phones were GSM locked for only europe / asia and not US GSM carriers.
i think the moto x, and the droid ultra/maxx/mini are not GSM locked for US.
i just switched from verizon to t-mobile. and my last phone was a droid razr m. i unlocked the radio to be able to use t-mobile for a week before my moto-x came, and it DOES work on at&t / t-mobile.
in this case it supported at&t / t-mobile on edge and voice. with 1900mhz hspa+ at&t 3g (and refarmed t-mobile band). no LTE support.
i think the xt1060 is the verizon moto -x and it doesnt havef support for t-mobile HSPA + 1700/2100 AWS or the t-mobile or at&t LTE bands.
so if you bought a verizon moto x, and used it on at&t in the future you'd only get hspa+ 1900mhz at&T "4G". and edge/voice. but it should work fine.
I can confirm that putting my wife's iPhone 5 nano-sim into my Verizon Moto X does work, and I get H+ (7-8mbit) speeds.
Okay so the next question would be, does this also apply to Sprint's Moto X? I hope it does but I am not holding my breath.
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can somebody please answer the sprint motox question?
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Okay so the next question would be, does this also apply to Sprint's Moto X? I hope it does but I am not holding my breath.
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i don tthink sprint has GSM unlocked by default. you'd have to find a way to unlock it, which from the sounds of it on this forum from other posters is not easy. probably have to be a sprint customer and say you are going on a trip to europe etc...
Maxx works...ish
I got a T-Mobile SIM for my VZW Droid Maxx (same chipset as the Moto X). With no changes to any settings it gets voice and text, and after manually inputting the T-Mobile APN I picked up H+ and the 1900 MHz 4G in my area. There's an article on Android Central with pictures of a Droid Ultra on a GSM network (I think AT&T).
That said, Verizon's tech support maintain that their unlocked phones aren't allowed to use any non-Verizon US carrier. They also said that if I take a U.S. T-Mobile SIM card roaming outside the US it will work there. The last generation of carrier locks were based on the nationality of the SIM card, not the tower, so that doesn't make much sense. Further reason to question anything tech support tells you.
I have a Verizon moto x and I placed my Att nano Sim in and I can only seem to get hspa+ not LTE. Other than that everything else seems to work fine.
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I have a Verizon moto x and I placed my Att nano Sim in and I can only seem to get hspa+ not LTE. Other than that everything else seems to work fine.
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I think you would get LTE if you unlock the bootloader and flash the att modem files. I think some people with the Dev edition ultra maxx flashed the att X radio and it enabled LTE.
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greenro89 said:
So I'm looking to upgrade but don't want to be stuck in another 2 yr contract. I'm thinking of using Verizon's edge program and getting the moto x and then paying the rest off when my contract is up at the end of the year. I would like to know if its possible to then go with an AT&T sim card and prepaid option in the same phone?
I have read all Verizon 4G phones come sim unlocked. I can't find either if the Verizon version comes with the GSM radios necessary to do this.
Any help on the subject would be great! Really tired of Verizon..
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fyrmd said:
I am ready for a new phone, but would like to be done with Verizon once they take away my unlimited plan. I read a few posts where it is said that the cdma phones would work on T-Mobile, the carrier I will be going to next. Can anyone confirm or deny the ability to use on both networks?
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I put a T-mobile SIM in my stock 16GB Verizon Moto x. Here is what works and doesn't.
First off, 4G works! in the South Jersey area and it is Blistering fast, I have exceeded 40MB speed test downloads twice, Several in the high 30s and I am avg in mid 20s. Uploads are averaging 20+/- . Compared to Verizon this is like comparing Fios to 1999 era dial up. the best I ever got on Verizon 4G was 14 download but average between 4 and 9 !
The Network notification switches a lot between 4G, "H" mode, whatever that is, just bars and another which I didn't catch quick enough to read ?
Battery has been amazing compared to my galaxy Nexus, I got 7.5 hours of Actual "Screen on Time" which included some GPS use and an hour of music streaming total phone up time was 34+ hours. How long it will perform like this is anyone's guess, today i got about 6.5 of Screen on time. I hope this inst a trend
Now for the bad news - Using it as a Phone. Incoming calls are fine but, making outgoing is a Pain in the A$$.
When I dial a number, (which is a hassle on this KitKat dialer) it often goes to the home screen or back to the dialer. The Call Fails. I am not sure if my dialer is buggy or its a compatibility problem. the KitKat Dialer on the Moto X is an exorcise in futility. Google are you listening? Why reinvent the wheel. All I want in my Dialer is a Number Pad! and a phone book.
When I Open dialer I see Recent calls up top, the whole middle section says all contacts and is otherwise blank, the bottom has the number pad icon, History and settings dots.
Clicking the number pad icon enlarges the bottom section, which then goes all white and removes the three icons. I have to then click the back arrow and re-click the number pad icon to bring it up the actual dialer. .
At this time I can dial. and then the call always fails on the first attempt. Sometimes it takes several attempts to go through.
When I click send on the dialer the 4G disappears and I am left with just the bars. they come back when call is done but sometimes take a few minutes to do so.
If you Kill the dialer app or swipe it away, coming back to it you will have the same issues when trying to get the number pad (two attempts) if you dont, the number pad will open on first attempt. but the calls will still fail on the first try.
I also cant use the internet when in a call, whether WiFi is on or off. Is this a T-mobile problem? I could use the net in Verizon when in a call when on 4G or WiFi
The Data is set to global mode but I have tried both the other settings. On boot up I get a warning saying the SIM is not recognized which I just swipe away.
I am also having this problem. After making a call, the music player and the phones "volume" aspects cease to work., Meaning, I get no sound out of the phone, Music, notifications alarms etc.. This happens almost every time and the only fix is a reboot
I disabled all Verizon Bloat and a lot of Moto Bloat as well This could be causing some of the bugs? But i have tested several different configurations all with the same outcomes.
Hope this helps and puts an end to the - Will it work or not questions. There seem to be a lot of Net Know it all's that flat out say a Verizon Moto x wont work with a T-Mobile SIM or some other undocumented "fact"
I just picked up a used verizon G2 to use on the Straight Talk service. First issue. I pulled the sim card from my old straight talk phone and put it in the G2. It instantly said unknown sim but, when i restarted the phone i had service. Problem is, i still have the unknown sim icon and cant seem to use LTE. Second issue. im stuck on 4.4.2 because it will not allow me to download any system updates. Im hoping there is a way to manually update. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
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I just picked up a used verizon G2 to use on the Straight Talk service. First issue. I pulled the sim card from my old straight talk phone and put it in the G2. It instantly said unknown sim but, when i restarted the phone i had service. Problem is, i still have the unknown sim icon and cant seem to use LTE. Second issue. im stuck on 4.4.2 because it will not allow me to download any system updates. Im hoping there is a way to manually update. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
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If you want to update hook up the phone to a windows pc and install the verizon software updater that is built into the flash memory when you plug it in. It will download and apply the Lolipop update. You should figure out what straight talk sim you have because it could be a verizon one, but most likely it's an at&t one so you'll need to edit your apn settings.
What provider is your Straight Talk SIM running off of? T-Mobile? AT&T?
The Verizon G2 only has LTE bands 4 and 13. B13 is Verizon-only, while B4 is used by multiple carriers.
If T-Moible, B4 is the primary band, but if you are in a rural area that TMO refarmed, LTE will be on B2 instead.
If AT&T, their primary LTE band is B5, but there are some select areas that have it on B4 also.
The "Unknown SIM" icon is because the Verizon ROM detects a non-Verizon SIM card. I'm sure there are ways to get rid of it via rooting, or just flash a custom ROM. If your Straight Talk is going through T-Mobile, there's a T-Mobile ROM in the dev forum that adds some TMO functionality like Wifi Calling.
I was able to upgrade to Lollipop using the verizon software and my pc so thanks for that!
The sim I am using is an AT&T straight talk sim. Do they have a sim just for verizon LTE networks?
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I was able to upgrade to Lollipop using the verizon software and my pc so thanks for that!
The sim I am using is an AT&T straight talk sim. Do they have a sim just for verizon LTE networks?
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For new lines, you can stick your phone's IMEI into ST's BYOP checker and if it checks out, you can order a Verizon LTE SIM. For existing lines, probably easier to just call up CS and ask.
I just ordered a verizon LTE sim card from straight talk. They transfered my number to a new sim once before, I'm sure they can do it again. If not, I can live with a new number to have a working phone again.
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ccross13126 said:
I just ordered a verizon LTE sim card from straight talk. They transfered my number to a new sim once before, I'm sure they can do it again. If not, I can live with a new number to have a working phone again.
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ccross13126, how did this all turn out? Are you able to use the verizon vs980 LG G2 on Straight Talk with 4g data speeds (using vzw towers)?
I am reading all kinds of conflicting stories. Some say it'll work, but 3g speeds only. BUT, it appears that MAYBE the VS980 can now use verizon 4g towers . . maybe in the last few months. Can you confirm? THANKS in advance. I have a rooted Verizon LG G2 (VS980) that I LOVE .. but i would really love to save a few $$$ and use Straight Talk. Thanks again.
dragonflyr said:
ccross13126, how did this all turn out? Are you able to use the verizon vs980 LG G2 on Straight Talk with 4g data speeds (using vzw towers)?
I am reading all kinds of conflicting stories. Some say it'll work, but 3g speeds only. BUT, it appears that MAYBE the VS980 can now use verizon 4g towers . . maybe in the last few months. Can you confirm? THANKS in advance. I have a rooted Verizon LG G2 (VS980) that I LOVE .. but i would really love to save a few $$$ and use Straight Talk. Thanks again.
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I am using the Straight Talk CDMA service on a few of my phones at the moment. I usually use a Nexus 6 but I had to send it in for a problem and have a Verizon LG G2 and a Verizon HTC M8. The sim card works on both of these phones at LTE speeds. At least in my area, Verizon still seems the most reliable for me. It might not be the fastest service but I don't have issues with missed texts and dropped calls like I do with some other services I have tried.
Hope this helps.