Hello all.
I had no idea how to name these strips, so i'll try to explain.
Under the flaps of the charge port etc, there are tiny white strips. If these get wet they turn pink.
My dad was stupid enough to rinse his phone, but forgot to close a flap.
no damage is done luckily, but the strip went pink. Can you buy this material in a store or order this to replace it?
PS: if anyone has a better title for this tread, please let me know XD. I don't speak english natively.
tharealmb said:
Hello all.
I had no idea how to name these strips, so i'll try to explain.
Under the flaps of the charge port etc, there are tiny white strips. If these get wet they turn pink.
My dad was stupid enough to rinse his phone, but forgot to close a flap.
no damage is done luckily, but the strip went pink. Can you buy this material in a store or order this to replace it?
PS: if anyone has a better title for this tread, please let me know XD. I don't speak english natively.
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Yeah people said that you can use bleach to turn them white again.
Try doing a search, I bet you will find some results.
tharealmb said:
Hello all.
I had no idea how to name these strips, so i'll try to explain.
Under the flaps of the charge port etc, there are tiny white strips. If these get wet they turn pink.
My dad was stupid enough to rinse his phone, but forgot to close a flap.
no damage is done luckily, but the strip went pink. Can you buy this material in a store or order this to replace it?
PS: if anyone has a better title for this tread, please let me know XD. I don't speak english natively.
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Those are Humidity indicators showing that water or vapour has entered in contact with them thus voiding warranty etc. The bleach trick might do but personally never tried it !!!!
they are call water damage indicator strips i believe.
What i know is that you can go back to the service center and request them to change the strips although there are no damage. Explain that this is to minimize future misunderstanding that future damages are caused by water damage.
No idea if the bleach tricks actually works - but Sony probably won't fall for it mate if you ever send it to their service.
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Open back cover, let it dry for a day or two, try again, buy another
my unit is stil alive but has no lcd display
my friend (cp technician) opened it and we dry it using a hair blower but stil no display
i already tried google got no solution online can someone help me
Oh dear looks like you damaged the lcd screen from what your saying...if thats the case then time to buy a new one really. Unless you can track down a replacement lcd screen for the diamond from somewhere...get in touch with HTC and see what they say.
I hope you didn't cook it with the dryer! I have had this happen several times and a full strip and dry with a kitchen towel and a few days to dry has always seen them back to life.
you either need a new lcd screen, new flex cable to your lcd, new graphics processor, and then you will need to flash the rom
statione said:
my friend (cp technician) opened it and we dry it using a hair blower but stil no display
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Please tell this "technician" not to use a hair dryer for drying sensitive electronics again in the future. Hot, dry air, when it hits the electronic components, will cause build-up of static electricity. Also, the hot air will probably fry up the components before all this anyways. Good luck !
So how do you recommend to dry it if I ever encounter such a problem. Just take out battery and cover and let them dry naturally on the table for some days?
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So how do you recommend to dry it if I ever encounter such a problem. Just take out battery and cover and let them dry naturally on the table for some days?
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Yes, thats the best way, you can in some cases use dry air to blow water away
How to or not to Dry!
Look using a hair dryer will not do any harm to the components on a pc board those pcb's are mass produced they are flood soldered at about 350 to 400 degree's which is about 250 degree's hotter then a hair dryer can get. the only thing you need to worry about is getting to close to the specter strip (film cable) that can melt much lower and the lcd is 2 pieces of glass with liquid between them, heat that up and the liquid expands and crack no more display. you were correct in drying it quickly if you leave the water on the board it will begin to oxidize at the solder points and then when they (Warranty repair personal) see that ,they will tell you it is not covered. the only problem you have now is returning it for warranty exchange, there is a small litmus like dot (tab) under the battery on most phones I am not sure where it is on the Diamond but it's there. which turns color when it comes in contact with moisture that is how they know it has been exposed to water. So if they (Carrier you got the phone with) send you a replacement handset ,which is what a lot of Carriers do with phone warranty's , they send you an exchange unit, you send back the bad one and you keep the exchange. then just use a small razor blade and remove the good water dot from the replacement unit and switch it with your bad phone before you send it back to the warranty dept. As far as they are concerned you have a Diamond with a bad display.
PS. When you call to setup the warranty exchange the tech is going to ask you what color the tab I referred to is. so you need to find out from someone that has a Diamond what color the dot is ,so you can give the tech the correct answer. Hope this helps.
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it seems everything is working ok but the lcd is dead and need to replace
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we can get the Diamond LCD Screens.
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Look using a hair dryer will not do any harm to the components on a pc board those pcb's are mass produced they are flood soldered at about 350 to 400 degree's which is about 250 degree's hotter then a hair dryer can get. the only thing you need to worry about is getting to close to the specter strip (film cable) that can melt much lower and the lcd is 2 pieces of glass with liquid between them, heat that up and the liquid expands and crack no more display. you were correct in drying it quickly if you leave the water on the board it will begin to oxidize at the solder points and then when they (Warranty repair personal) see that ,they will tell you it is not covered. the only problem you have now is returning it for warranty exchange, there is a small litmus like dot (tab) under the battery on most phones I am not sure where it is on the Diamond but it's there. which turns color when it comes in contact with moisture that is how they know it has been exposed to water. So if they (Carrier you got the phone with) send you a replacement handset ,which is what a lot of Carriers do with phone warranty's , they send you an exchange unit, you send back the bad one and you keep the exchange. then just use a small razor blade and remove the good water dot from the replacement unit and switch it with your bad phone before you send it back to the warranty dept. As far as they are concerned you have a Diamond with a bad display.
PS. When you call to setup the warranty exchange the tech is going to ask you what color the tab I referred to is. so you need to find out from someone that has a Diamond what color the dot is ,so you can give the tech the correct answer. Hope this helps.
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Thanks Ed for the sensible answer based on knowledge and understanding, "Replace" is the easy answer based on ignorance. People replace lots of stuff unnecessarily IMHO, bad for the environment and your wallet too.
Also note that rubbing alcohol (methylated spirit, isopropyl alcohol) is a strong drying agent, it bonds to the water molecules and removes them by evaporation. I fixed a mobile that had been wet many months before and it cleared up the board damage shorts.
Knowledge is power, fight ignorance
Hello all, while drunk at the beach this weekend I accidentally went into the water with my Touch Diamond in my pocket... stupid... I know, did I mention I was drunk? Anyways, the current issue at hand is what to do with my screwed up cell phone.
I took the backing, battery and SIM card out of the phone and let it dry out as much as I could since the weekend. When I turned it on this morning, the "smart mobility" text appears for a few seconds, but the phone shuts off shortly after that. Do batteries usually break from water damage, as well?
If anyone has any advice for me I would greatly appreciate it. Does anyone know of a legit place that can repair this? Is there anything I can do to try and remedy this problem? Or would you recommend I just sell/ditch this one and get a new phone? Thanks a lot.
Have you tried charging the battery? that might explain it only booting for a second, the other explanation is that it's fried the ROM chips and only the bootloader works.
It's not looking good, is it under warranty?
Disassemble your Diamond completely (manual floating around somewhere in this forum), clean all pieces using one of these isopropanol-brush-thingies, reassemble, turn it on - and pray. Any year - a new battery might be a good idea. No promises on anything of that though. The diamond is a very integrated piece of technology and you might have short-circuited something on one of the PCBs really. No guarantee that everything will work as usual even if the device comes up as well.
Warranty seems to be out of the question - I guess virtually any repair center will notice residue of loads of salt water on the first look inside...
That's true, I meant to say insurance, heh.
Strip it down Salt water is very and I mean very corrosive ! You have nothing to lose and everything to gain by doing this . Waranty repair will be expensive.
Clean with an alchol based cleaner as advised but you must ensure you get all the salt out. To see it boot means that the screen has survived ( Amazed by this ) .
Best of luck , oh and if it does not work are you insured for accidental damage on personal items on your household insurance. This could be the next route
I have the same problem with my Tytn 2. It got wet during the "Oranje" Party in Basel, when the firemen were "cooling" down the fans...
It boots..but as soon as it has booted, you here a lot of "bling..bling..bling.." and it shuts down.. the batterie doesn't charge..
You recommend to open and clean it with alcool? Actually I'm not sure if it was washed by the firemen or by my own alcool .ehhehe..
I have a Diamond now, but if I get it back to work, I would sell it on ebay.
Regards
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Warranty seems to be out of the question - I guess virtually any repair center will notice residue of loads of salt water on the first look inside...
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There is a watersensor inside the diamond. They'll notice that the device has been in the water.
wardy said:
Strip it down Salt water is very and I mean very corrosive ! You have nothing to lose and everything to gain by doing this . Waranty repair will be expensive.
Clean with an alchol based cleaner as advised but you must ensure you get all the salt out. To see it boot means that the screen has survived ( Amazed by this ) .
Best of luck , oh and if it does not work are you insured for accidental damage on personal items on your household insurance. This could be the next route
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Luckily I was at lake Michigan in Chicago (fresh water), for whatever that's worth, so I'm not really worried about salt corroding anything away. I bought it off eBay unlocked, I did buy insurance but, naturally, I'm pretty sure that this water damage won't be covered.
Sounds like taking it apart and cleaning it might be my best bet. Do you guys think that any cell phone repair place would be able to help me out? Anyone know of a good cell phone repair shop (in the U.S.)? Thanks for the help thus far guys, I really appreciate it
Firstly remove the battery and SIM, please do not try to power up or charge again as you might have already damaged it beyond repair.
Isopropanol or IPA is what you need (100% Alcohol), you can get this from your local chemist for about £5 a bottle.
You need to strip your phone down completely and use an anti static PCB brush to clean the whole lot (Buy it from Maplin), submerge it in a plate of IPA (excluding the screen) while cleaning. As for the warranty sticker remove this by first heating with a hair drier, then uing a Stanley knife point to remove it.
Once it’s all been cleaned and dried in air, re-assemble and power up. If it fails to work take it back for a warranty replacement. As the warranty sticker is intact, and all the evidence of water damage will have been removed, they should replace it for you without a problem.
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Luckily I was at lake Michigan in Chicago (fresh water), for whatever that's worth, so I'm not really worried about salt corroding anything away. I bought it off eBay unlocked, I did buy insurance but, naturally, I'm pretty sure that this water damage won't be covered.
Sounds like taking it apart and cleaning it might be my best bet. Do you guys think that any cell phone repair place would be able to help me out? Anyone know of a good cell phone repair shop (in the U.S.)? Thanks for the help thus far guys, I really appreciate it
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Pretty sure? I would check if I was you before doing anything else with it. If insurance doesnt cover water damage, what does it cover? Phone insurance is so expensive i thought they covered everything like theft and accidental damage, I thought the idea was a warranty wont cover you if you break the phone but insurance will.
I'm thinking it may be an idea to check before you do anything else so they dont say "Well we cover water damage, but now youve taken apart the phone we cant cover you"
Antimus said:
Have you tried charging the battery? that might explain it only booting for a second, the other explanation is that it's fried the ROM chips and only the bootloader works.
It's not looking good, is it under warranty?
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Seriously you are not hoping warranty will cover "swimming with the diamond"...
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all the evidence of water damage will have been removed, they should replace it for you without a problem.
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All the evidence, that is, apart from the water-sensitive tab which I am assuming you didn't know about...? (behind the tab for attaching a strap)
Mathew
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Seriously you are not hoping warranty will cover "swimming with the diamond"...
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or doese he mean "Swimming Diamond" ... Is that a new feature we overlocked? I think it's time for another entry in the tweaklist... *rofl*
My warranty does not cover accidental water damage, that is for sure.
I charged the battery up over the weekend and tried turning it back on, and, to my utter amazement, the phone completely powered on. I got to all of my menus and was able to use all of the programs that I opened, even the WiFi worked.
However, the functionality of the touch screen is quite screwed up. I don't know if its shorting out or what but there are basically "ghost taps" and other unintentional actions happening all the time. For example, if I were to just leave it at the home screen it would eventually scroll to another menu, open the start pull-down menu, automatically open the calendar and start doing random ****, etc.
Does anyone know how to fix the touch screen or have any ideas on how to replace one? I have a faint hope that this thing might not be beyond saving.. thanks a lot people
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Does anyone know how to fix the touch screen or have any ideas on how to replace one? I have a faint hope that this thing might not be beyond saving.. thanks a lot people
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Maybe try to re-calibrate the touch screen?
Don't give up hope, sometimes these things can take days, even weeks to fully dry and become functional. My mom had a sony ericsson somethingorother that she loved, dropped in the tub, didn't work for like a month or more... She'd check it every week or so to see, and slowly the features started coming back... Little by little, more and more buttons would respond (without activating 2 or 3 at a time). Well, long story short (too late?) works 100% now. I don't think water damage is a reparable occurrence, but DON'T sell your Diamond for parts or anything like that, keep it around and check back periodically. Best of luck.
there is a little white sticker onto the battery.
If it goes RED it shows HTC that the Phone/Battery went into the water.
This allows HTC to avoid repair "sunk" phones
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there is a little white sticker onto the battery.
If it goes RED it shows HTC that the Phone/Battery went into the water.
This allows HTC to avoid repair "sunk" phones
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Should also be one on the phone... If not, there's your solution. New battery + deny any water damage = Free replacement.
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Should also be one on the phone... If not, there's your solution. New battery + deny any water damage = Free replacement.
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Haha you're all over it... Yeah, I had a feeling they'd have something in the phone, they'd never make it THAT easy.
Hi
I accidentally left my i9000 home and went on holidays. It was 1 week "home alone". When I got back i charged it and started using it again.
Then after a day the battery ran out again. I needed to check a contact real quick so I managed to switch it on and boot it right until i got the contact, then battery was drained.
When I got home to charge it.. DEAD phone, not even the Jig could save it.
I sent it to warranty and they refused to cover the malfunction because they detected humidity (they sent the screenshot below)
please check h__p://img263.imageshack.us/img263/1284/i9000.jpg
When i got it again i opened it and saw that i can only get the white stuff out by scraping it and that the black spot is actually (or seems like) a chunk of burnt chip
This is what i saw h__p://img171.imageshack.us/img171/4475/i90002.jpg
I never dropped it in water, or did something wrong to it. The only humidity it may have gotten was by having it in the bathroom while i showered.. But so do my other phones!
Do you guys think it's really humidity or do I have a fighting chance?
Thanks for your input, and sorry for the pics, i can't post outside links yet, please replace h__p with http
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I appreciate any help guys >,< i want to send if back to warranty with a claim, if it really isn't humidity
Thanks
Get them to prove it is humidity, much cheaper for them to replace, consumer rights, use whats out there, threaten them, harass them dont let them win, its that simple!
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That white stuff does NOT look like humidity. It looks more like :
A: thermal paste and overheated chip
B: superglue spill (but being inside the case, this theory must be dropped).
I would say you should insist to fix it on warranty.
Thanks guys, i'll try to harass them. It really doesn't seem humidity. What it seems is that they're taking advantage of me!
The phone here costs 329€ and they're asking 220€ no fix it
You should ask them to prove it to you that the white stuff is humidity. From what I know, they have to prove you're guilty, not the other way around (where you should prove you're innocent).
Btw, does the i9000 have a humidity detector sticker or some other tech?
I went on holidays and when i came back i opened the phone again and all that white stuff.. just vanished!
If it was humidity, as in limestone residues, it wouldn't vanish!
What the hell was that!?
Anyways, regarding the humidity detector, i saw in one forum one guy with a small WHITE square inside the battery cover.
In the service manual the same square is BLACK and mine is also BLACK
Is this one? And what does white and black mean?
Thanks again
ampedrosa said:
Btw, does the i9000 have a humidity detector sticker or some other tech?
I went on holidays and when i came back i opened the phone again and all that white stuff.. just vanished!
If it was humidity, as in limestone residues, it wouldn't vanish!
What the hell was that!?
Anyways, regarding the humidity detector, i saw in one forum one guy with a small WHITE square inside the battery cover.
In the service manual the same square is BLACK and mine is also BLACK
Is this one? And what does white and black mean?
Thanks again
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I have no idea what the square is for (mines also black)
But i think you have a fighting chance of winning this, Like said before, they must prove your guilty in order to refuse you warranty.
If you contact them demanding it to be fixed as your are 100% sure the phone has never seen water. Then someone's gotta' give and its gotta be them..
just bullsh!t them saying your seeking legal advice regarding this, and say "do i look stupid enough to leave a $400 phone near water ?? "
if they say yes, you must seek revenge
So my Galaxy had fell the other day.
I bought a new screen, and replaced it myself.
Now the problem is the colors are TOO DARK. And the screen keeps "flickering". Like an old neon light.
Is the new screen bad? Or had something else been affected from the fall?
(the colors are also a little bluish\violet, the same I has seen after the screen broke)
Thanks.
I'd open it up again and check the connections, connectors etc. If your sure it happened before, you sure it aint water damage or damage to the board..??
Blow the connectors..
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I'd open it up again and check the connections, connectors etc. If your sure it happened before, you sure it aint water damage or damage to the board..??
Blow the connectors..
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I'm sure of the connections, but I'll do it again just to be safe.
By the way when I said "the colors are too dark". I think what that actually means is there's is no light from the screen. It's like you changed the brightness settings to the minimum.
I have light on the back and options buttons\sensors. But no light on the screen.
So when you say blow it, you mean with a hair dryer?
Ok, im not sure how to fix it sorry....
When i said blow i meant literally blow, but yh i guess a hair dryer could, but all i mean was like a short burst to get rid of anything inside that may be in the wa causing problems...
GL
Alright thanks mate.
I'll wait for more responses.
Why don't you just go to a Samsung shop and ask them to replace it for you?
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Why don't you just go to a Samsung shop and ask them to replace it for you?
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Well, for two reasons:
I like to learn\do things\ troubleshoot stuff myself.
And I'm unemployed right now so I'm trying to be as wise as I can with money.
THanks xda, please delete.
adriansantos said:
Hi guys, unfortunately I don't have a case and dropped my xz1 just 15mins ago. This is my first aluminum phone, My question is, is there any way I can repaint it? Maybe sand it down, then spray it with silver spray paint? I hope to hear from HTC One owners since that phone was famous and aluminum too.
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I think it really depends on how big / bad the dent is. It if isn't very big . noticible at all, I'd not bother with it. If it's something that' really annoys you, I would get a little bit of filler to fill up the dent (if it's big enough to warrant it), then sand it down nice and smooth and tape up anything that shouldn't be painted. I don't have this phone so I don't know what all parts have the same colors / could be negatively impacted by paint. Maybe use a small dot sticker to cover the headphone jack and use an auto-grade spray pain from an auto parts store to re-touch the surfaces that need it.. Then give it however long is recommended by the paint manufacturer to dry and remove the tape. If the port covers stick, very carefully use an razor blade to cut just the paint. (again, I don't have this phone so I don't know how dangerous this step might be) Be sure to avoid cutting any thing besides the paint that may be necessary for water proofing.
I assume no risk if you mess up your phone. It's kind of time and labor intensive, so if the dent isn't that bad, It may be best to just live with it.