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Gingerbread Update Question

Hi everyone
I have a question, I rooted my phone (Nexus One AT&T version) with Androot after that I downloaded Rom Manager and install cyanogenmod 6.1 before that I do a backup of my stock rom with Rom Manager and stored in my Sd card.
My question are, in case I want to upgrade to gingerbread the only thing I have to do is return to my original rom backup with Rom Manager and rooted again with the androot?
Thanks for your replies.
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Yes that should be it.

Actually...
To use ROM Manager, you have to install a custom recovery and with a custom recovery
you won't be able to get the update OTA, since the update will reboot after download
and try to install via the original recovery...
But of course the update will most certainly be posted here as a update.zip that you
can install via ROM Manager...
//Nik

ClockworkMod recovery will install the OTA update as it doesn't check signatures.

nikjensie said:
But of course the update will most certainly be posted here as a update.zip that you
can install via ROM Manager...
//Nik
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I'm sure that within 24 hours (or 24 minutes) of the first release, a repacked update.zip for custom recovery will appear. If you're coming from Cyanogen, take a nandroid and Titanium backup first, then wipe data/cache, before proceeding.
Keep in mind we *don't* yet know if any root exploits remain in Gingerbread. They may well have patched up the "rageagainstthecage" exploit by now. If your bootloader is locked and you want it to stay that way, and you still want the option of root access... then wait for the custom recovery update.zip and use that.

Thanks to all for the answers, I don't think gingerbread have much changes like cyanogenmod 6.1, but in case Google announces tons of surprises with gingerbread I known the best way to return back to get the update.
Thanks
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[Q] I keep losing root after reboot, even after custom kernel installs

Hello,
I keep losing root after reboot, tried several kernels like Semaphore and CF-Root but after rebooting my phone i don't have root anymore, how can i fix this?
I have Faryaab deodexed JVS ROM
Thanks

if you keep losing root, I would suggest that you need to do a complete clean and then re-install.
Copy anything important onto your PC, do a Titanium backup of your apps and copy that to your PC then do a complete clean and reinstall either using stock firmware or use the cleanse option with Tornado (use google)
After you should flash first your kernel with root and a stock firmware to confirm the problem is no longer present and only then flash a custom rom. If you again lose root then you will know it is not the kernel at all but the rom that is the source of your problems. Only then install back your apps.

Thanks
Already solved the problem by wiping and installing Dark Core kernel but i think the wipe was not necessary.
Now i am just afraid of changing kernel because of losing root again, oh well

I keep loosing root even just after using Kingroot , which is the only rooting apk that seems to work on my SGH-i337Z 4.4.2 .
I run Kingroot and have root and I wanted to make a back up of it so when I install Skyfall ROM or another ROM I can restore to the back up if things go south or I just don't like the new ROM.
Right after doing the back up and I reboot . . . . . root is gone.
I have been searching the forum but have yet to find the reason why I loose root and or a " fix".
I can't seem to do back ups or reboot of any kind and still retain root.
Any ideas ?
Thanks,

[Q] Restoring Root from restoring rom via CWM

Hey,
I've looked around and cannot seem to get a straight answer about this. So I'll keep this short
My question being: If I have lost root is it safe/recommended to gain root again by restoring a NANDroid backup (with root) or by flashing a new ROM (with root) as long as I can get into CWM (even without root)?
Thanks in advance!

You say you have lost root. I assume you're on one of the ICS roms?

Without root how you can restore nandroid backup?
CWM won't work without root.

correct
chasmodo said:
You say you have lost root. I assume you're on one of the ICS roms?
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Yes I am on an ICS rom (MidNoteV2.0). It says that I have root, then to go do a NANDroid backup, I have to flash the abyss kernel, reboot into that recovery, make the NANDroid backup, then flash CF-LP1 kernel.
Problem is that when I reboot now, I no longer have root privileges, but I can still reboot into CWM recovery.
Without root how you can restore nandroid backup?
CWM won't work without root.
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And yes I can still get into CWM and restore backups, or flash new .zip s even when it says I have lost root
Is it possible that I may have lost a more superficial part of root, where apps are not allowed to gain super user permissions, but the core functions enabled by root are still available?

Ranafram said:
Is it possible that I may have lost a more superficial part of root, where apps are not allowed to gain super user permissions, but the core functions enabled by root are still available?
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What you've got right now is partial root, and that's the plague of all early ICS Roms. You can forget about making useful nandroid backups. Restore brings back partially rooted Roms no good to anyone.
The only way to gain full root again would be to do it all over again, which means
rooted GB Rom
Chinese Repack through Mobile Odin
Desired ICS custom Rom (with wipes where the dev says).
And there is no other way to make sure you're properly rooted.
I've done it 3 times already.

chasmodo said:
What you've got right now is partial root, and that's the plague of all early ICS Roms. You can forget about making useful nandroid backups. Restore brings back partially rooted Roms no good to anyone.
The only way to gain full root again would be to do it all over again, which means
rooted GB Rom
Chinese Repack through Mobile Odin
Desired ICS custom Rom (with wipes where the dev says).
And there is no other way to make sure you're properly rooted.
I've done it 3 times already.
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Yea it sucks :/ but I've just been reflashing the original ICS ROM I was using. And haven't encountered too many issues so far.
When you say root GB rom then Chinese repack then install ICS ROM, you mean first flash back a GB rooted rom and kernel, then flash a Chinese kernel, then it's rom?
Initially I actually just rooted my GB stock rom, then immediately jumped to a ICS ROM that included the new kernel. And I didn't end up using Odin once, I somehow mnaged it all through CWM.
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I just cannot do a nandroid backup - help pls

Am on criskelo 11.2 with speedmod kernel 3.13.
All is fine, it appears I have root (titanium etc works) and a check with 'got root' returns an ok response.
The phone is behaving itself nicely and is nice and smooth.
The problem comes when I try and do a nandroid backup using cwm.
It gets a liitle way in and then freezes (forever!)
Things I've tried to cure this...
1) Rolling back to stock GB and then re-rooting, then full 3 wipes, then reinstall criskelo rom.
2) Rolling back to a pre-rooted GB rom, then all 3 wipes, then re-install croskelo
2) Flashing other kernels, notecore etc
3) Installing superuser 3.1.1.zip with cwm and its binary update.zip
4) Installing SuperSU app from play store - it says needs to update binaries, and when I try it just says 'installation failed!'
5) Installing superuser app from play, this time when I try and update binaries it does helpfully say ' remounting /system as rw... fail!'
which leads me to believe this is a root problem, even though no other app is complaining.
6) doing a search on this forum (before you all tell me to do this!)
I have been trying to solve this for over a week now, and it feels like I have read everything on this forum but I may have missed something.
Can anybody steer me in the right direction please?

Maybe you dont need a nandroid backup, it doesnt backup efs anyway.
Could be a kernel issue, or space issue. Not sure.
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baz77 said:
Maybe you dont need a nandroid backup, it doesnt backup efs anyway.
Could be a kernel issue, or space issue. Not sure.
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Cheers, you might be right, but I have always used nandroid before flashing a new rom,
may I ask what you use to backup then, when you change rom?

jonnybruce said:
Cheers, you might be right, but I have always used nandroid before flashing a new rom,
may I ask what you use to backup then, when you change rom?
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Have you tried updating cwm? I believe older versions had this problem.
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SpyderTracks said:
Have you tried updating cwm? I believe older versions had this problem.
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No I haven't Spyder, although I have tried a few different roms whic all have differing versions of cwm right?
which one is the latest then, and how do I install it, would it be an update zip?

jonnybruce said:
Cheers, you might be right, but I have always used nandroid before flashing a new rom,
may I ask what you use to backup then, when you change rom?
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I am a heavy flasher and prevent issues caused by restores to get a clean taste of roms. Nandroids I tried, but I havent found a rom I wanted to go back on always, flash so much that it just takes to long.
Efs with a tool in one if my threads, suggestion by Chasmodo. DrKetan has a good toolbox thread in general section.
I manually backup photos and such with a file explorer. Calander/Contacts/email in gmail,
whatsapp and special app stuff also manually transfer folder from sdcard and back.
Messages I dont care for. Neither made calls list.
Occasionally I do restore app if dissapeared from market with Titanium, but only app, not data. I save backups on external. Cause I clean sdcard also.
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jonnybruce said:
No I haven't Spyder, although I have tried a few different roms whic all have differing versions of cwm right?
which one is the latest then, and how do I install it, would it be an update zip?
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The latest version for Note N7K is 6.0.1.2.. chek the below link... download option is there
http://www.clockworkmod.com/rommanager/

jonny, i feel your problem is due to partial root.
could you copy files into system in root explorer ?
did adaway work in applying hosts file ?
for criskelo rom too you should choose CF root kernel during the flashing process, then later you may change to your preference

Thanks baz & nokia, much appreciated.
I am running PA 1.99 now and it has the new cwm (you can tell because it has a grey background now!)
And rraaka, you are correct, I cannot copy anything to system
Not sure how I can get full root back though, I have used Dr Ketans rooting tool many times to try and cure this issue as well as flashing pre-rooted GB roms with Odin.
Not sure what else I can do.
But am starting to agree with baz now, I can do without nandroid (it takes ages anyway) and just use titanium to restore.
Everything is working fine with my partial root (except nandroid) anyway so not sure I care anymore!
Am enjoying Paranoid Android by the way, JB is fun.
I do miss the samsung apps though, I don't suppose those have been jellybeaned yet??

nope not yet, nothing Touchwizz like spen etc.
There is a cwm flashable of samsung apps that works pretty good on cm9, not sure if it works on cm10 or jb.
gaining full root shouldnt be to difficult, update binaries and then you know for sure.
The one that has worked wel for me is the ssu only zip from this post but then again thats on stock stuff.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1841288
For custom roms/kernels the ones supplied with it are build in to work out of the box.
Once fully clean install, a nandroid can work but thats fully clean
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Thanks baz, am going to go back to the start (stock ICS) and try that link to try and get my full root back, looks interesting.

Ok, I have full root again now!
here's what I think I remember what I did...
Downloaded the first two Su & busybox zips using method1 on the link that Baz kindly shared with me and popped them on my sd card ready.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1746794
Downloaded and flashed the latest UK Carphone Warehouse stock ICS rom with odin.
Rebooted to stock recovery - applied update zip - flashed first the SU and then Busybox zips downloaded earlier.
Rebooted phone to check all was ok.
Located superSU app and ran it to check - and first it said it didn't recognise my phone model, hmmm...
So I downloaded mobile odin from play and flashed abyss 4.2 kernel
Rebooted to recovery, full 3 wipes and rebooted system.
Ran superSU again and magically it updated binaries and for the first time in 2 weeks it said 'sucessful', I was very pleased!
Rebooted to recovery and flashed Criskelo 11.2 again (have gone back to this from PA until things are a bit more stable)
Restored all my apps from TB all good.
Checked Adaway and it was more than happy to replace host file, and root explorer is also happy.
Cool

[Q] My method of installing ROMs - unsafe for the Note?

Hello everybody,
First of all: I have rooted some devices before, often in very bad conditions (Softbricked ones, simlocked and branded ones et cetera). However, all of them were not mine.
My smartphone is the Samsung Galaxy Note w/o branding or simlock but with the original Samsung software.
There wasn't really a reason to root my phone up to the point when it broke down (ergo: Shut itself down, reinstalled everything) on one day a few months ago, since that day, my phone has got a really, really bad battery life, apps are destroyed and it is pretty slow. Built-in obsolescence, as I won that phone when it was released, so I got the earliest version.
Because of this, I want to root dat phone and install dat cyanogen-shizzle.
All the phones I rooted before were rooted with my untested and never-recommended method of rooting it with a exploit on the phone, putting up clockworkmod via rom manager and then flashing cyanogen. Sometimes the phone was going crazy, but it always worked, every phone is working way better than ever before.
However, I read some real horror-stories about hardbricks on the Note as Samsung did some really bad work as always. (My next phone will be a Nokia Lumia anyway.)
So, what I wanted to ask: Can I root my phone and then install clockworkmod via ROM manager and then install the ROM via Clockworkmod without being exposed to an enormously high risk of a hard brick? My phone is currently on Android version 4.1.2.
I checked the phone with "Got Brickbug" and yes, I'm having it.
Any help would be appreciated
Thanks in advance,
M24o (No, this name is not inspired by a weapon..)

Best, easiest and hassle free way to get root and custom recovery is to download the philz kernel (the one corresponding to your ROM):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1901191
you can do wipe, flash any custom rom, backup, restore and many more things on this.
Edit: download the zip file, put on ext sd, go to recovery select install zip from external storage, choose philz .zip file and that is it.

treacherous_hawk said:
Best, easiest and hassle free way to get root and custom recovery is to download the philz kernel (the one corresponding to your ROM):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1901191
you can do wipe, flash any custom rom, backup, restore and many more things on this.
Edit: download the zip file, put on ext sd, go to recovery select install zip from external storage, choose philz .zip file and that is it.
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Thank you, I've just read the thread, what I really like about it is that I can flash it from the phone. Thanks alot for this, those threads are the ones I am always looking for hours (and then find them) to make rooting bearable for my.
Thank you!