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Hi all,
I am currently on the lookout for a new device and I was considering the Samsung Galaxy S.
I was leaning towards a HTC Desire as they will be releasing 2.3 for that device, but have (1) Samsung announced 2.3 for the i9000?
2 Whats the 1ghz processor like compared to the Desire?
3 What is the battery life like on the Galaxy?
4 Does it cause an issue that the device doesnt have a flash?
5 Can you get a headset with music controls (i use my current phone while cycling so having music controls is very handy)
6 The device has 8gb internal memory, how much is used for storing apps? Would i need to use app2sd? I take it I can expand the memory via micro sd card?
7 Do people recommend the Samsung Galaxy S?
Thanks
-c
1. Yes
2. Much better graphics performance, CPU is weaker in some areas and stronger in others on the SGS.
3. A day or so in my experience (fairly heavy use)
4. Not really for me, but I don't use phone cameras much anyway.
5. You can, but afaik they have to have the Nikia/Samsung pin arrangement rather than the Apple/HTC
6. Around 1.3GB is available for storing apps, so no real need for a2sd.
7. Yes.
Thanks for the reply. I read about a free unlocking solution on this forum, does this work for all devices or is it specific to a certain type of galaxy s?
it is fairly easy to unlock this device (we're talking about the original galaxy s which is the i-9000) and comes with a great deal of "aftermarket" support with lost of cooked roms to try
ceanth said:
3 What is the battery life like on the Galaxy?
4 Does it cause an issue that the device doesnt have a flash?
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It really depends on the user - sometimes battery life may obtain 3 days - for me, it is 1,5-2 days. But everything is relative.
About flash - it also depends if you need it - simple For me it is not a big problem.
I was choosing between Desire and Galaxy S - finally, i have chosen galaxy and I am really satisfied with it
ceanth said:
Hi all,
I am currently on the lookout for a new device and I was considering the Samsung Galaxy S.
I was leaning towards a HTC Desire as they will be releasing 2.3 for that device, but have (1) Samsung announced 2.3 for the i9000?
2 Whats the 1ghz processor like compared to the Desire?
3 What is the battery life like on the Galaxy?
4 Does it cause an issue that the device doesnt have a flash?
5 Can you get a headset with music controls (i use my current phone while cycling so having music controls is very handy)
6 The device has 8gb internal memory, how much is used for storing apps? Would i need to use app2sd? I take it I can expand the memory via micro sd card?
7 Do people recommend the Samsung Galaxy S?
Thanks
-c
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The lack of camera flash is a big miss on the SGS. I seriously just assumed it would have one when I got mine - so much for research! But apart from that it really is a terrific device. The official support is a bit patchy but the team on this site have put together some amazing custom roms. Battery life is bad if you come from an old school phone my old Sony erricson would last a week but you really do need to charge up every day unless you're not using it and you WILL use it a lot.
The other stuff depends on what your setup is but all is possible. My choice was between the SGS and the desire and I don't regret my decision but the desire does have a better camera, when its dark at least
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Sounds like a great device but can someone clarify that the unlock is free?
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ceanth said:
Hi all,
I am currently on the lookout for a new device and I was considering the Samsung Galaxy S.
I was leaning towards a HTC Desire as they will be releasing 2.3 for that device, but have (1) Samsung announced 2.3 for the i9000?
2 Whats the 1ghz processor like compared to the Desire?
3 What is the battery life like on the Galaxy?
4 Does it cause an issue that the device doesnt have a flash?
5 Can you get a headset with music controls (i use my current phone while cycling so having music controls is very handy)
6 The device has 8gb internal memory, how much is used for storing apps? Would i need to use app2sd? I take it I can expand the memory via micro sd card?
7 Do people recommend the Samsung Galaxy S?
Thanks
-c
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The galaxy s is a fantastic phone with excellent hardware and great "aftermarket" development as someone put it but to be honest if you're thinking of getting a galaxy s now.. y not wait a while and just get the galaxy s 2... its pretty much galaxy s on steroids, in terms of hardware and software...
I was thinking it might be worth getting an i9305 because of the extra RAM it holds, with the addition of 4g the I9305 should last longer or be more future proof. But I realize the user base is significantly smaller than the I9100. As a cyanogenmod enthusiast I'm concerned the s3 LTE will have less dev support and thus be less future proof than the more popular 3g variant.
Is this a valid concern? Does the I9305 get less support because of its smaller user base? Perhaps not now but in the future when its a legacy device.
The I9300 only has about 100-200mb of free ram even with nothing but aosp rom. Of course its still smooth and stable but Id imagine having 2gb would ensure Android 5.0 and cm11 upgrades to not be a problem.
Is there much difference between the I9305 and i9300 ROMs? Can the I9300 ROMs work on or easily be modified to support I9305?
What do you think, please put my mind at ease. The price difference isn't much so I'd go for the I9305 as long as it gets CyanogenMod support as long as the I9300
Cheers
jamesyb0i said:
I was thinking it might be worth getting an i9305 because of the extra RAM it holds, with the addition of 4g the I9305 should last longer or be more future proof. But I realize the user base is significantly smaller than the I9100. As a cyanogenmod enthusiast I'm concerned the s3 LTE will have less dev support and thus be less future proof than the more popular 3g variant.
Is this a valid concern? Does the I9305 get less support because of its smaller user base? Perhaps not now but in the future when its a legacy device.
The I9300 only has about 100-200mb of free ram even with nothing but aosp rom. Of course its still smooth and stable but Id imagine having 2gb would ensure Android 5.0 and cm11 upgrades to not be a problem.
Is there much difference between the I9305 and i9300 ROMs? Can the I9300 ROMs work on or easily be modified to support I9305?
What do you think, please put my mind at ease. The price difference isn't much so I'd go for the I9305 as long as it gets CyanogenMod support as long as the I9300
Cheers
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You'll find most of the answer to your question here but I'll try to go a bit more accordingly to your questions here.
Q: Is this a valid concern? Does the I9305 get less support because of its smaller user base? Perhaps not now but in the future when its a legacy device.
A: If you are really into modding and just can't live without playing around with your phone and have to try something new everyday then yes it is a valid concern. i9300 has way more support and development than there is on i9300.
Q: The I9300 only has about 100-200mb of free ram even with nothing but aosp rom. Of course its still smooth and stable but Id imagine having 2gb would ensure Android 5.0 and cm11 upgrades to not be a problem.
A: Well, some of the dev thinks differently, they say 1GB ram is enough to handle 5.0 & AOSP rom and it will be stable and smooth and why wouldn't it be? there are helluva lot more devs for i9300 than the i9305 to make sure they run perfectly. To be honest without the devs the extra 1GB ram is useless.
Q: Is there much difference between the I9305 and i9300 ROMs? Can the I9300 ROMs work on or easily be modified to support I9305?
A: I don't know much about the difference but I can tell you this, it aint easy to port a i9300 rom to i9305, so don't expect to get all the rom they have on i9300, on our i9305.
Q: What do you think, please put my mind at ease. The price difference isn't much so I'd go for the I9305 as long as it gets CyanogenMod support as long as the I9300
A: Here I'll just talk about my personal preference which might put you in confusion rather than putting your mind at ease. I'm not saying this because I own a i9305 but personally I feel the extra 1GB ram is a big plus and I believe it'd help us to be more future proof and there are still a lot of ROM and MODs for i9305 to play around. A lot of the MODS from i9300 works for i9305 especially the biggest mods like JKAY mods works on i9305. I'm not gonna stretch it long but for a few bucks more I'd go for i9305, ofcourse if you are a mod freak then i9300 is your toy but I'm more than happy with my i9305, got several mod installed, changing rom every once in a while and with 1GB extra ram multi-tasking is a pleasure. The rest it upto you.
I hope I was able to clarify some of your concerns if not all.
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jamesyb0i said:
I was thinking it might be worth getting an i9305 because of the extra RAM it holds, with the addition of 4g the I9305 should last longer or be more future proof. But I realize the user base is significantly smaller than the I9100. As a cyanogenmod enthusiast I'm concerned the s3 LTE will have less dev support and thus be less future proof than the more popular 3g variant.
Is this a valid concern? Does the I9305 get less support because of its smaller user base? Perhaps not now but in the future when its a legacy device.
Yes probably and more so as many Devs will start on SGS4 .
CM support that's a question to ask the CM guys .
jje
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I'm in exactly the same situation. Is CM on the I9300 that stable to be called perfect? Don't they have the same issue with the camera and sources code?
I wonder if the RAM usage is the same on stock rom vs CM, if is significantly more on stock maybe the low usage on CM can make it up for the 1GB missing?
I ended up buying the I9305, no noticeable difference in performance when running cyanogenmod (cyanogenmod / aosp uses less ram than touchwiz, to answer your question, sandro).
The camera bug is the same on both the 9300 and 9305, also the last few nightly updates of cyanogenmod 10.1 have 'no changes' in the changelogs.. seems like my old S2 had more frequent updates and support.
The S4 is only $300 more so no worries can just sell and upgrade if the development community becomes stale
do you think the i9305 will ever see 4.2 or key lime whatever its version number will be?
greetings all...
this is my first post , and as the titles says its my first time to buy an android device.
i did my search on the web and i found out that it will suit me the best , but u have some question about this device , hopefully i can get answers from you:
1- will the ZR have a native DS3 support , cause i`m thinking about buying a game controller that will work for both the mobile and the PC(wired).
if not , is there is any alternative in the market?
2- i`v heard that the phone memory is somehow low (4.5GB) and it will not be able to move apps to the SD card (which of course i will buy a 32GB card). is it true , and is there is any solution to this?
Thanks in advanced , and sorry for the clumsy questions , its my first experience with android device.
Hello bro! If you look around the ZR forums you will find all the answers you are looking for,but still i will guide you.For the controller - yes ZR supports the native DS3.Sony controler both for phone and PC.For the second question - you've heard true.Our phone here have only 4.5 gigs of usage memory which is kinda low but enough.For now we dont have a chance to move apps to SD card.But we are waiting soon to have CyanogenMod 10 release for our phone,so this will be available in it BtW you chose a very good phonie here. Great to have you here Welcome to our little community ^^
effective said:
Hello bro! If you look around the ZR forums you will find all the answers you are looking for,but still i will guide you.For the controller - yes ZR supports the native DS3.Sony controler both for phone and PC.For the second question - you've heard true.Our phone here have only 4.5 gigs of usage memory which is kinda low but enough.For now we dont have a chance to move apps to SD card.But we are waiting soon to have CyanogenMod 10 release for our phone,so this will be available in it BtW you chose a very good phonie here. Great to have you here Welcome to our little community ^^
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thank you very much....
-the reason for asking is that the ZR was labeled as not compatible with DS3 in PlayStation mobile certified devices page, airbut i`v read also this on the xperiablog that all xperia devices will have native DS3 support which confused me about the truth.
and the DS3 has a good driver for PCs which well be perfect for me :good:
- CyanogenMod 10 seems to be very complicated thing to me , i`v been using SE Vivaz for 5 years , and the whole android thing is totally new for me, i think i will have to spend some time reading about rooting and android roms, but that encouraging to know that it will be no big deal to have 4.5 GB memory for apps
thank you again and `im really having great time on this forum :good:
Crag Hack said:
thank you very much....
-the reason for asking is that the ZR was labeled as not compatible with DS3 in PlayStation mobile certified devices page, airbut i`v read also this on the xperiablog that all xperia devices will have native DS3 support which confused me about the truth.
and the DS3 has a good driver for PCs which well be perfect for me :good:
- CyanogenMod 10 seems to be very complicated thing to me , i`v been using SE Vivaz for 5 years , and the whole android thing is totally new for me, i think i will have to spend some time reading about rooting and android roms, but that encouraging to know that it will be no big deal to have 4.5 GB memory for apps
thank you again and `im really having great time on this forum :good:
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Hi Crag you may check this Video Here and skip to 6:45
he is playing Dead Trigger via Sony Game Controller
And i believe that there'll be a way shortly to move apps to SD as it's not that hard ,in my Galaxy W i used to swap the Internal with the External by just modifying a line in "vold.fstab" in "system/etc" as long as i have root access which is already there for Xperia ZR
i've been reading a lot of reviews about this device and actually i like it so much ,and i think that i'll go for it by next weeks
thanks DoO37, but the reason for asking was for the wireless support , i`v heard that android phones can run gamepads easily but only wired , so i had to stick with the DS3 for the reason its the only gamepad that have official support from the manufacture , so it will work flawlessly with out the need to root or tweaking the phone (which most gamepad require to work) , and since i`m not very keen on android rooting, so i dont think rooting will be a priority for me ..
i agree, the ZR looks good ,received good reviews generally with minor complains like the low internal storage,bad FM radio, mediocre viewing angles , but it has every thing we need in a phone (at least for me) ,great HW, durable and removable battery, good camera, sturdy build; shatter proof screen(i broke my Vivaz screen 3 times ) , IP58 certified which is awesome..and fitted in the budget i have...
i`m not expert in android phones , but i think that the ZR is the best phone in its price range
Crag Hack said:
thanks DoO37, but the reason for asking was for the wireless support , i`v heard that android phones can run gamepads easily but only wired , so i had to stick with the DS3 for the reason its the only gamepad that have official support from the manufacture , so it will work flawlessly with out the need to root or tweaking the phone (which most gamepad require to work) , and since i`m not very keen on android rooting, so i dont think rooting will be a priority for me ..
i agree, the ZR looks good ,received good reviews generally with minor complains like the low internal storage,bad FM radio, mediocre viewing angles , but it has every thing we need in a phone (at least for me) ,great HW, durable and removable battery, good camera, sturdy build; shatter proof screen(i broke my Vivaz screen 3 times ) , IP58 certified which is awesome..and fitted in the budget i have...
i`m not expert in android phones , but i think that the ZR is the best phone in its price range
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Yes i also think the same.. and don't forget that this device will get a 4.3 android upgrade.. which is something really nice
and also about rooting and development.. i see that the XZR has most of the HW are identical as the XZ only the display resolution and some sensors as FXP mentioned ,so it will hopefully get a good development by FreeXperiaProject Team
Rooting is easy and not that hard ,special thanks to DoomLord who've made an app that make everything by itself ,you may check it here ,, the silly part imo is the Bootloader unlocking :/
anyway.. i gone crazy with this device ,it's more that beautiful specially for me as i don't like 5" displays
Goodluck
You'll get 32GB build-in ram if you buy docomo xperia A. If you are a phone user not are rom tester. Nexus family could be best fits for testers.
Greetings all...
I`m about the go to the SONY dealer and get the ZR, but i have some final questions to ask her before buying and regretting to do so..
1- The Bluetooth and WiFi problem? is it a global issue or happens with some phones?and can it be fixed
2- The Earpiece volume ? i`m OK with medium volume , but i hear people complaining that it is very low and very bad quality, is it true?
3- Heating problem? is it that big issue or is it normal for an IP58 phone?
4- Can i put a 64GB sd card in it , or it is only 32GB max?
cause honestly, if these issues are serious , i think that i will have to search for another sub 500$ android device (S3 for instance) , cause i`m not the kind of person who likes to change phones very often..
Thanks you very much
I don't have any of the first two problems. For the heat, mine gets warm when heavy use, but I think it's acceptable especially for a quad core phone.
Sony has released a .244 update for the phone a month ago(the latest version .67 has been released as well), it already support 64gb card.
However, Doomlord's root is not applicable for the .244 nor .67. Try Vroot if you want to root the phone. Or root the photo before update and then use OTA update instead of PC C.
If you really need app2sd function, which I don't think it is necessary, you can try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2445547
from my C5503 using xda app-developers app
thanks for the input...
since the phone will have a one year warranty so i think i will manage the issues if they might appear...
as for the memory card , i will be using very limited number of storage demanding apps , the reason for getting a 64GB stick is for media files (music ,movies , ebooks...) . so the ZR officially support 64GB?
but thanks anyway for the app2sd link , it will come in hand someday
Correction:
It should be .67 update for the 64GB card support.
http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/software/phones/xperia-zr/
Support for bigger (64GB) SD card so that you can store even more on your Xperia™
Sent from my C5503 using xda app-developers app
So Kit kat has been designed to work on lower end devices... The Revo falls under this category.
What are the chances LG/Verizon rolls out an update for the Revo running KK?
Or, since it's designed to fit low end devices, what are the chances that it will be easier to build a custom ROM on Kit Kat as opposed to ICS and JB which seemed to be a little rough?
rybussell said:
So Kit kat has been designed to work on lower end devices... The Revo falls under this category.
What are the chances LG/Verizon rolls out an update for the Revo running KK?
Or, since it's designed to fit low end devices, what are the chances that it will be easier to build a custom ROM on Kit Kat as opposed to ICS and JB which seemed to be a little rough?
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Chances are about zero, no devs like this phone only i don, and i dont use AOSP so we wont be getting kitkat.
Yeah that is a big time bummer. I would love to see that happen!
There is a difference between lower end devices and old devices. The revolution is old and does not even qualify as low end. Why would LG spend money to create an update for a phone that only a few hundred people world wide still own? Don't get me wrong, would love to see it happen, but it won't.
Haxcid said:
There is a difference between lower end devices and old devices. The revolution is old and does not even qualify as low end. Why would LG spend money to create an update for a phone that only a few hundred people world wide still own? Don't get me wrong, would love to see it happen, but it won't.
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This is not a low-end device or an old-device, its far worse.
I have attempted to port JB but i cant test, and no one else will test, so thats a lost cause.
However the LG Revolution has:
360MB usable RAM
152MB Adreno RAM
1GHZ CPU
16GB Internal SD
1.4GB /data/app partition
Could we get kitkat, if we used the video ram as fast swap?
Maybe we could use /data as swap to.
For a defragmentation of memory?
No...
No, it does not since fstrim was implemented in 4.3. The system takes care of allocated blocks automatically and the app runs risk of brick; I managed to do this with a Droid X and a Galaxy Nexus. Wedged my Nexus 7 after the KitKat update.
Thanks
One more for "no root ain't so bad!