I have a question, i have a friend living in Macau and told me the One there come with a SD card, and is more cheaper, if i get one custom roms from International version work?
samarain said:
I have a question, i have a friend living in Macau and told me the One there come with a SD card, and is more cheaper, if i get one custom roms from International version work?
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Cheaper? Not necessarily.
Let's do the math:
1. Price. The official channel products costs about 4888 CNY, which is about $788 USD. There are MANY knockoffs already flooding the market, on Taobao and the like. So if you are going for cheaper, you just might get one of these instead of the real thing. Authentic products are hard to come by in China, and official channel is the only SURE bet. Believe me, I live in China right now.
2. No LTE.
3. No custom roms at the moment, and you can't find official RUUs at the moment, as the telecoms don't have the habit of releasing them.
4. If you flash a custom rom, then you might lose the SD card functionality or access to second sim card.
5. You can't even use a single sim version recovery on these dual sim versions (won't go into recovery, I've tried, I've a HTC 802d, the China Telecom variant, which uses CDMA800/1900)
The best you can do, so far, is to root one of them and install Google Play Store (can you believe Google Play Store isn't even loaded? Guess China really doesn't like Google)
jni said:
Cheaper? Not necessarily.
Let's do the math:
1. Price. The official channel products costs about 4888 CNY, which is about €608 . There are MANY knockoffs already flooding the market, on Taobao and the like. So if you are going for cheaper, you just might get one of these instead of the real thing. Authentic products are hard to come by in China, and official channel is the only SURE bet. Believe me, I live in China right now.
2. No LTE.
3. No custom roms at the moment, and you can't find official RUUs at the moment, as the telecoms don't have the habit of releasing them.
4. If you flash a custom rom, then you might lose the SD card functionality or access to second sim card.
5. You can't even use a single sim version recovery on these dual sim versions (won't go into recovery, I've tried, I've a HTC 802d, the China Telecom variant, which uses CDMA800/1900)
The best you can do, so far, is to root one of them and install Google Play Store (can you believe Google Play Store isn't even loaded? Guess China really doesn't like Google)
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Is a authentic thing but if have so many things like you say against, i can only say....omg...
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Hi all,
I love to tinker and have been a regular on these forums since the early days of smartphones (long before android and ios)....suffice it to say I love to tinker with my tech.
Ok so here is the problem... After months of biding my time it looks like its time to get an HTC One.....and on research I've discovered my best option price wise was actually import it....and that the versions from Japan (Made in taiwan), China, and ?india? have Dual Sims, whereas those from HK, like those I could buy here in the shops in the UK take only one SIM.
Now it would seem a no-brainer that I should go for the dual sim option especially as I have two separate sims - one for work and one for play.
HOWEVER, I will want to root my phone immediately upon getting it and will DEFINATELY want to install custom firmwares in the near future.....
And so the question....never having owned a dual sim phone in the past.....Will these phones take the same firmware and then a little setting up with custom apps? Or will I need completely different custom firmwares? and if so is the CFW cooking scene as good for the dual sim version? (also I only read English and Spanish so I'm a little worried that I may not be able to read the pages where any dual sim firmwares might be posted).....
This would be a complete deal-breaker for me and I'd be forced to go with the single-sim option.
I've searched and cannot locate a clear answer to this question! All help much appreciated!!!
I have Dual Sim 802d version and its rock solid and all but the only problem I saw is non-availability of RUUs for the device (the Chinese ones caused radio problems for some fellow users with no signal and stuff) nor are their much custom roms for my device. After S-OFF I couldn't even flash Google Play Edition RUU as it bricked the device. Do a bit of research by browsing some of the threads. IMO if you aren't gonna customize your phone much like unlocking bootloaders, S-OFFing, etc.. HTC One Dual-Sim is a pristine device.
If you want more custom Rom and support don't go for dual sim
Smartphone and dual sim don't mix them battery sucker both ways
You will find your one SIM started problem in future not in network SIM not found like that
I have experienced with HTC desire v dual sim
from HTC One
MrVarioII said:
Hi all,
I love to tinker and have been a regular on these forums since the early days of smartphones (long before android and ios)....suffice it to say I love to tinker with my tech.
Ok so here is the problem... After months of biding my time it looks like its time to get an HTC One.....and on research I've discovered my best option price wise was actually import it....and that the versions from Japan (Made in taiwan), China, and ?india? have Dual Sims, whereas those from HK, like those I could buy here in the shops in the UK take only one SIM.
Now it would seem a no-brainer that I should go for the dual sim option especially as I have two separate sims - one for work and one for play.
HOWEVER, I will want to root my phone immediately upon getting it and will DEFINATELY want to install custom firmwares in the near future.....
And so the question....never having owned a dual sim phone in the past.....Will these phones take the same firmware and then a little setting up with custom apps? Or will I need completely different custom firmwares? and if so is the CFW cooking scene as good for the dual sim version? (also I only read English and Spanish so I'm a little worried that I may not be able to read the pages where any dual sim firmwares might be posted).....
This would be a complete deal-breaker for me and I'd be forced to go with the single-sim option.
I've searched and cannot locate a clear answer to this question! All help much appreciated!!!
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If you do decide to go with the Dual SIM version getting custom ROM's might become a tricky situation.
Just for your reference for troubles that you may face see this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2626054
If you want to use custom ROM's get the one SIM version, as for your dual SIM's the good thing is HTC One supports hot SIM swap so you can pop the SIM in and out with out having to switch the phone off
Good luck on your decision :good:
Single sim is the way to go!
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Thanks for the advice all. Sadly then, as I had feared, my urge to tinker precludes my going for the dual SIM model!
A new cfw every 4 months or so is what stops me constantly wanting a new phone!
MrVarioII said:
Thanks for the advice all. Sadly then, as I had feared, my urge to tinker precludes my going for the dual SIM model!
A new cfw every 4 months or so is what stops me constantly wanting a new phone!
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In that case...
You may also want to hold back on the purchase as HTC may rls a M8 Daul SIM version and I'm guessing if you buy the M7 at that time you're bound to get a better deal ?
BIGMOH said:
In that case...
You may also want to hold back on the purchase as HTC may rls a M8 Daul SIM version and I'm guessing if you buy the M7 at that time you're bound to get a better deal ?
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Tempting - have been waiting for the price to drop ever since release and it just hasn't done it mind you! That said I can import it from as little as £200!!
Hi, I want to get the Nexus 6 unlocked model before 12/25 and I can't buy it from the Play Store because they don't accept international credit cards and I don't live in the US, I've tried Motorola but they never have phones in stock, I've tried to get information on when will they get stock by chatting with several Motorola representatives but none of them have gave me information about that, and I don't want to spend $700+ on a page like Amazon or eBay, what can I do to buy and get the phone before 12/25?
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Hi, I want to get the Nexus 6 unlocked model before 12/25 and I can't buy it from the Play Store because they don't accept international credit cards and I don't live in the US, I've tried Motorola but they never have phones in stock, I've tried to get information on when will they get stock by chatting with several Motorola representatives but none of them have gave me information about that, and I don't want to spend $700+ on a page like Amazon or eBay, what can I do to buy and get the phone before 12/25?
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welcome! I suggest you add to Santa's list.
Lots of folks with the $700+ in hand can't even lay hands on a device. Not even from those sites you are running away from.
Out of a unicorn's rear end. Seriously, they're that understocked. If you aren't in the US, your only options are Play store, carriers and Ebay (and it's like). Since the play store is out, and Moto isn't selling them directly outside the US, your only options are to get one before Christmas is to hope you luck out and can get one from a carrier, or suck it up and go on Ebay.
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Out of a unicorn's rear end. Seriously, they're that understocked. If you aren't in the US, your only options are Play store, carriers and Ebay (and it's like). Since the play store is out, and Moto isn't selling them directly outside the US, your only options are to get one before Christmas is to hope you luck out and can get one from a carrier, or suck it up and go on Ebay.
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Actually I can ship the phone in the US, the problem is that Play Store or Motorola accept a international credit card! Think there is a way to buy it from the Play Store with that credit card or that Motorola gets stock and ships it before Christmas?
If you are actually in the US, try seeing if you can snatch one up from carriers? Or consider maybe getting a US credit card? If they don't take international credit cards then there's really nothing you can do on that front. Unfortunately Google has a lot of restrictions by region and there isn't really any effective way to circumvent it.
You could try swappa, but the price are higher. I sold one on swappa last thursday late night, i shipped it friday via priority and it arrived yesterday, thats more faster than GPS or motorola
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If you are actually in the US, try seeing if you can snatch one up from carriers? Or consider maybe getting a US credit card? If they don't take international credit cards then there's really nothing you can do on that front. Unfortunately Google has a lot of restrictions by region and there isn't really any effective way to circumvent it.
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I'll maybe try to get in from T-Mobile, I don't live in the US but i'll try to see what I can do, thanks!
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You could try swappa, but the price are higher. I sold one on swappa last thursday late night, i shipped it friday via priority and it arrived yesterday, thats more faster than GPS or motorola
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Yeah, I've already looked over there but that's where the $700+ becomes a problem, maybe I would try over there later, thanks! :good:
Maybe someone knows off the top of their head: My wife wants to give my "retired" AT&T M7 to her mother in China. Does anyone know if the AT&T M7 will work or can be made to work in China? Do any of the Chinese telecoms use the teeny tiny sim cards like the one in the M7? Which ROMS, beside stock support Chinese character sets? Any help will be appreciated.
If it has simlock she must use a at&t card but I think there are several ways to get rid of it. Nearly all Roms support Chinese characters. Also you could download keyboards with them if not. If at&t will work I don't know. Google it or simply test it.
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If it has simlock she must use a at&t card but I think there are several ways to get rid of it. Nearly all Roms support Chinese characters. Also you could download keyboards with them if not. If at&t will work I don't know. Google it or simply test it.
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Thanx Phillip! Googling it didn't answer my question directly but I did discover that China uses GSM and frequencies supported by the M7. I had already rooted it and flashed a custom recovery and ROM. I also figured how to get "S-off" and unlock it as well. I'm just waiting for my OTG cable to arrive.
I know it's really early but i figured i'd put it out there.
Anybody know if the US Carrier's will allow and support Dual-Sim in their versions? I ask because i was hoping to use ATT's version to keep their Wifi Calling, HDVoice, etc as well as use Dual-Sim so i don't have to carry two phones around for work and personal.
I’m curious too.
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No dual sim for US peeps. I hate it and do not understand why we can't have it.
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I know it's really early but i figured i'd put it out there.
Anybody know if the US Carrier's will allow and support Dual-Sim in their versions? I ask because i was hoping to use ATT's version to keep their Wifi Calling, HDVoice, etc as well as use Dual-Sim so i don't have to carry two phones around for work and personal.
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Nope, if you want dual sim you have to buy exynos.
I dont get it either why they dont make dual sim models for north america.
I also dont get why F### they cant launch all the colours here either...
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force70 said:
Nope, if you want dual sim you have to buy exynos.
I dont get it either why they dont make dual sim models for north america.
I also dont get why F### they cant launch all the colours here either...
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Are you saying even the carrier unlocked us one won't have dual-sim... Damn
The color release is marketing and demand...they want to control the initial release. Sectioning colors to regions makes it easier to release...shortly after the high-demand release, we will probably see the other colors introduced. They have done this before with other devices. Sucks for those wanting to take advantage of pre-order deals. I wanted the deep blue but since it's going in a case, I got black and bought blue cases.
They don't sell dual in the US due to carrier pressure. Although slightly less so than a few years ago the vast majority of US phone sales are through carriers giving them the power to dictate product to some extent.
The U.S. Samsung web site is allowing pre-order of an unlocked variant; SM-N950UZVAXAA. The Best Buy web site shows this as a Snapdragon, dual-sim:
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsun...D=1&siteID=je6NUbpObpQ-05QPqugkIIKu.GTfe_wiOQ
I have asked Samsung support for verification as I need unlocked, dual sim.
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The U.S. Samsung web site is allowing pre-order of an unlocked variant; SM-N950UZVAXAA. The Best Buy web site shows this as a Snapdragon, dual-sim:
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsun...D=1&siteID=je6NUbpObpQ-05QPqugkIIKu.GTfe_wiOQ
I have asked Samsung support for verification as I need unlocked, dual sim.
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Sorry maybe im just blind but i dont see where it states dual sim there? Ive never seen a snap dual sim sammy device...at least not in the last 3 years anyway...
force70 said:
Sorry maybe im just blind but i dont see where it states dual sim there? Ive never seen a snap dual sim sammy device...at least not in the last 3 years anyway...
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force70 said:
Sorry maybe im just blind but i dont see where it states dual sim there? Ive never seen a snap dual sim sammy device...at least not in the last 3 years anyway...
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Though I cannot say one way or the other that the Best Buy site has its description correct... been burned a few times relying on that data.
A chat with Samsung online states no dual Sim for US unlocked phones.
Info: Thank you for choosing to chat with us. An agent will be with you shortly.
Info: You are now chatting with Srilatha R.
Srilatha R: Hi, thank you for reaching out to Samsung Technical Support. How may I assist you?
You: Hi, I'm interested in purchasing your Note 8. I am considering the unlocked version as I have lines with Sprint and Verizon. Will the US version of the unlocked phone offer dual SIM capability so that I can use one device for both carriers?
Srilatha R: No, US version phones are compatible with single sim feature
You: That's a shame but thank you for confirming. Is there any way to get a version that offers the dual sim capability?
Srilatha R: No, Due to product design of the phone all the US version samsung phones are compatible with only single sim
You: Got it. Thank you.
Srilatha R: But you can try with international version phones
You: How would I purchase an international version?
Srilatha R: You can purchase it from third party websites such as amazon
You: Ok, that makes sense. I owned the Note 7 and am eligible for the trade-in credit. How would I purchase through Amazon and then still get the credit?
Srilatha R: Well, if you choose to trade in then , that can only be done by Samsung.
Srilatha R: As trade in offer is not eligible for other stores or websites
You: Ok, thank you for your help today
Why you want dual sim peopole.
Its hybrid which means your 200 gb sd card will not work with the second sim card. That is coming from a dual sim samsung user..
That's good to know. I didn't understand that to be the case - probably due to the desire to have one device that would support lines from two different carriers. That's a shame though - many of us have personal devices and work devices that would, in an ideal world, be combined into a single device with the majority of needs met.
Cool Person said:
Why you want dual sim peopole.
Its hybrid which means your 200 gb sd card will not work with the second sim card. That is coming from a dual sim samsung user..
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browning said:
That's good to know. I didn't understand that to be the case - probably due to the desire to have one device that would support lines from two different carriers. That's a shame though - many of us have personal devices and work devices that would, in an ideal world, be combined into a single device with the majority of needs met.
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That is my exact use case. Not really a fan of having to carry around two phones.
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That's good to know. I didn't understand that to be the case - probably due to the desire to have one device that would support lines from two different carriers. That's a shame though - many of us have personal devices and work devices that would, in an ideal world, be combined into a single device with the majority of needs met.
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For average business user who do not need more than 64 gb of storage. The dual sim version will be a good choice.
Its hybrid sim thought meaning you chose either second sim or a an up to 256 gb sd card. You cannot use the 2nd sim with the sd card at same time.
You will have to order it from Amazon thought.
As a traveling person between 2 countries the dual sim is an advantage for me.
Cool Person said:
For average business user who do not need more than 64 gb of storage. The dual sim version will be a good choice.
Its hybrid sim thought meaning you chose either second sim or a an up to 256 gb sd card. You cannot use the 2nd sim with the sd card at same time.
You will have to order it from Amazon thought.
As a traveling person between 2 countries the dual sim is an advantage for me.
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TL;DR - SM-N950UZKAXAA IS NOT DUAL SIM
Samsung Direct/USA or whatever you call it or whoever is being represented in Samsung.com/US has a listing during pre-ordering that the unlocked note 8 is dual sim. I even have a screenshot of that one.
However, same SKU - SM-N950UZKAXAA, is being sold in Best Buy. I did check both unlocked units in Black and Orchid Gray and as the store people have shown me, they aren't dual sim at all. Perhaps it was good riddance that the units are delayed in the shipping because I would be most likely returning that one eventually because there was some sort of deception on the item being sold. Now cancelled, perhaps I'll just get my Note 8 in few months time when the price is lower.
Hello I was thinking about getting a Pixel device to replace 2 phones I currently carry. Was wondering if a dual SIM config would work well with these 2 carriers, and whether it's better or easier to put Verizon or T-Mobile on the eSIM?
Also is it possible to use data simultaneously from both, I've read conflicting reports?
DrWowe said:
Hello I was thinking about getting a Pixel device to replace 2 phones I currently carry. Was wondering if a dual SIM config would work well with these 2 carriers, and whether it's better or easier to put Verizon or T-Mobile on the eSIM?
Also is it possible to use data simultaneously from both, I've read conflicting reports?
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Verizon is pretty easy although you might need to call for a scan code. But that takes all of 5 minutes. Not sure about TM but I heard it was just as easy. I've been doing this for a couple of years now, first with Fi and Verizon (physical sim) and then I got rid of Fi and went with both lines on Verizon. One on the eSim and the other physical sim.
You need to select one sim for data. You can change it rather easily in network settings. Calls and text can default to one or select each time which I find to be a pain. Depends on your situation though.
@DrWowe Just a little update. The Pixel 5 is out of stock at the Google store and probably won't be coming back. That leaves Amazon or other 3rd party sellers. With that in mind be careful about which version you buy meaning it needs to be carrier unlocked. If you are thinking of rooting you need to be doubly careful. Or.. you can wait for the P6 and buy directly from Google. Whichever you choose good luck.
Fair enough. I'm assuming the eSim configurations will be similar on the 5a or 6, I haven't decided which one to buy yet. I guess it won't be a 5 after since it's discontinued and I only want to buy unlocked from the manufacturer.
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Fair enough. I'm assuming the eSim configurations will be similar on the 5a or 6, I haven't decided which one to buy yet. I guess it won't be a 5 after since it's discontinued and I only want to buy unlocked from the manufacturer.
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I'd find a BNIB Pixel 5. No way I could justify paying for the Pixel 5a. If you think the 6 wont be too large for you, I'd get that.
Just my .2 cents
andybones said:
I'd find a BNIB Pixel 5. No way I could justify paying for the Pixel 5a. If you think the 6 wont be too large for you, I'd get that.
Just my .2 cents
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We are really in a bind here if you want a smaller device. On Swappa there are zero P5 new or mint for sale. Even very limited stock at Amazon and you'd have to have your head examined to buy off Ebay. There are none available there either that are US versions unlocked. These are becoming a collectors item and as such will probably go for a pretty penny if we can keep them in decent condition. The only premium device I can find under 6.3" is the iPhone 13 at 6.1. This is not good.