Actually 2 questions here about Beats Audio on the HTC One:
1. With respect to the phone itself (not the earphones) is Beats Audio purely software or is there also a hardware component to Beats (sound processor in the phone)?
2. Does putting a custom ROM on an HTC One mean you are giving up the benefits of Beats Audio? ie: custom ROMs don't take advantage of special hardware features, or from a software perspective you lose Beats software functionality...
(some may argue that there are any benefits to Beats Audio so maybe my questions are moot)
1) It's a software mod with a good hardware
2) If you will use a custom htc sense based you will have Beats.
It you will flash an aosp based you will lose beats, boomsound, zoe and other
Guich said:
1) It's a software mod with a good hardware
2) If you will use a custom htc sense based you will have Beats.
It you will flash an aosp based you will lose beats, boomsound, zoe and other
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so it sounds like i'll lose just the software mods. sad...i love the native ui, and really dislike sense. hopefully soon, there will be patches i can apply to my rom to get back the good software.
anyone know of any works in progress regarding this?
kwaamkit said:
so it sounds like i'll lose just the software mods. sad...i love the native ui, and really dislike sense. hopefully soon, there will be patches i can apply to my rom to get back the good software.
anyone know of any works in progress regarding this?
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I think is impossible see boomsound, zoe and other one function on aosp based rom.
But someone can work on here...
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I'm wondering it some of the very specialized hardware will pose problems for developing cutom ROMs for the HTC One. Especially for AOSP ROMs.
The camera has image stabilization, the special ultrapixel sensor, the Zoe imaging style. Do these things rely on specialized software that would not be in AOSP ROMs?
The mics use a special dual membrane desgin for filtering noise, based on differing sensitivity of each membrane in each mic. Again, is this all hardware based functionality? Or would the noise filtering not work effectively in an AOSP ROM with AOSP kernel?
Thanks for any thoughts from people with knowledge of these things.
the camera will be worse on AOSP than on Sense as Sense has the closed source driver for the image chip.
Zoe etc will be not in AOSP ROMs and ultrapixel sensor should work though.
Mics will be working as well if we get some good devs.
Okay, so the ultrapixel sensor will work (low light photography, etc.) as advertised? But Zoe is an issue because basically it's a software protocol for capturing images and sharing them in a particular fashion?
And the dual-membrane mics will depend on the software in the ROM, but should be doable? I wouldn't want to lose all that potential improvement to in call audio quality.
I'm just interested in this question and any other hardware functionality that might be effected by ROMs, because the One seems like a device where the conceptualization of the hardware is much more integrated with the software that ships with it, than has been the case on other devices.
In the end, I guess I'm just not a fan of Sense (although the new version looks like a big improvement), but I usually like HTC's hardware. But I wouldn't want to lose any of the functionality of the great hardware but flashing a different ROM.
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cb474 said:
Okay, so the ultrapixel sensor will work (low light photography, etc.) as advertised? But Zoe is an issue because basically it's a software protocol for capturing images and sharing them in a particular fashion?
And the dual-membrane mics will depend on the software in the ROM, but should be doable? I wouldn't want to lose all that potential improvement to in call audio quality.
I'm just interested in this question and any other hardware functionality that might be effected by ROMs, because the One seems like a device where the conceptualization of the hardware is much more integrated with the software that ships with it, than has been the case on other devices.
In the end, I guess I'm just not a fan of Sense (although the new version looks like a big improvement), but I usually like HTC's hardware. But I wouldn't want to lose any of the functionality of the great hardware but flashing a different ROM.
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Well I am not a dev and we don't have any kind of source code of the kernel etc. But the basic camera should work although it will be harder to fix than on other devices. Zoe is simply a software which works only with sense framework as the rest of the sense features do.
Yes micro should be doable as well although it will take some time for sure to fix that by a dev. Expect early sense roms soon but don't expect aosp roms very soon to be working perfectly.
Let's see how it turns out to be when the device is released and some devs get their hands on
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jonas2295 said:
Expect early sense roms soon but don't expect aosp roms very soon to be working perfectly.
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Yeah, that's what I figured. Thanks for your thoughts.
I guess I can save my pennies while waiting for AOSP ROMs to go stable. At least this is such a desirable phone and it will be on almost all carriers, so I'm hoping it will attract a lot of devs.
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cb474 said:
Yeah, that's what I figured. Thanks for your thoughts.
I guess I can save my pennies while waiting for AOSP ROMs to go stable. At least this is such a desirable phone and it will be on almost all carriers, so I'm hoping it will attract a lot of devs.
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You are welcome :00
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I am coming from gs3. There were huge problems about it not being open source because of undocumented exynos by Samsung. Since I am looking to run cm flawlessly with all future updates of cm coming on my phone how is htc one in that field. Will it get stable CM? Isin't snapdragon 600 open source?
Snapdragon is always opensource. I am guessing the real problem with having a stable CM build on HTC one is it's features like Zoe & camera. Both require HTC's own imaging chipset on which are closed source. So unless you can consider having a basic camera then yes it should be stable.
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Snapdragon is always opensource. I am guessing the real problem with having a stable CM build on HTC one is it's features like Zoe & camera. Both require HTC's own imaging chipset on which are closed source. So unless you can consider having a basic camera then yes it should be stable.
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CM anyways does not implement these extra features right?
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CM anyways does not implement these extra features right?
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Correct. Anything that's not AOSP won't be in any CM build so 3rd party apps won't be in it
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Correct. Anything that's not AOSP won't be in any CM build so 3rd party apps won't be in it
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So what are the chances of a perfectly up and running AOSP on HTC One?
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So what are the chances of a perfectly up and running AOSP on HTC One?
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Using HTC's dedicated imaging chip is 98% not possible 2% if someone would bother reverse engineering the driver which is a very2x tedious task and I doubt anyone would bother.
So unless you require the imaging chip on what you call perfect then highly unlikely.
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Using HTC's dedicated imaging chip is 98% not possible 2% if someone would bother reverse engineering the driver which is a very2x tedious task and I doubt anyone would bother.
So unless you require the imaging chip on what you call perfect then highly unlikely.
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Care to explain that? What do you mean by imaging chip and what does it do?
HTC s last flagship one x still doesn't have flawless cm though its getting close. If enough major players get involved maybe there's a chance but the odds were stacked against h8rift as amazing and appreciated as his work is.
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Care to explain that? What do you mean by imaging chip and what does it do?
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The camera. HTC has always used unique hardware for their camera and writes their own drivers that are not open source so the only way to get the camera working 100% in CM would be if some one went through the HTC driver.
Miui
nullkill said:
The camera. HTC has always used unique hardware for their camera and writes their own drivers that are not open source so the only way to get the camera working 100% in CM would be if some one went through the HTC driver.
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But how come MIUI team has been able to port HTC camera & zoe along with gallery on their custom Rom? Any idea?
CM Rom + HTC Zoe Camera = Perfect combination
It's the sense camera really that much better then the cm/aosp camera? Opinions?
Sense will be that much better cos it interacts with ImageSense and has software to make full use of it. AOSP will have to create their own drivers to make the camera work at all. Should AOSP ever produce super awesome camera drivers, then I would expect it to at least match the Sense camera
As of right now Sense camera destroys AOSP camera, due to software.
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As of right now Sense camera destroys AOSP camera, due to software.
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Yes I just went back to a sense Rom because of it. was really just wondering some of your opinions. I've heard from some that there's really not that much of a difference but it's pretty easily noticed.well hopefully they'll release a pure Google version and we'll be able to steal the drivers from that.
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Yes I just went back to a sense Rom because of it. was really just wondering some of your opinions. I've heard from some that there's really not that much of a difference but it's pretty easily noticed.well hopefully they'll release a pure Google version and we'll be able to steal the drivers from that.
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A pure Google version would probably only have basic drivers to ImageSense. If the device supports ImageSense, that means the drivers will have to go open sourced as well. Not sure how much HTC wants that to happen though.
Sense camera is better then AOSP camera.
Not for the zoe etc, but for the software and the ui
Hey guys,
I'm looking to get away from Sense if possible, but I've found that the IR blaster app is pretty useful, so I don't want to leave it out.
Are there any AOKP or AOSP roms out that have support for the IR blaster, either through the stock HTC TV app, or otherwise? If not, are there any plans to incorporate something into the future versions?
There are currently no AOSP based ROM's that support the IR blaster (I believe due to lack of drivers).
However, when we get our hands on the "Nexus experience" ROM that HTC intends to release, it will very likely have the proper drivers which can be ported to all the AOSP based ROM's (since it'll essentially be an AOSP ROM).
So keep your eyes open, because who knows when it'll happen, but it's not too far off.
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There are currently no AOSP based ROM's that support the IR blaster (I believe due to lack of drivers).
However, when we get our hands on the "Nexus experience" ROM that HTC intends to release, it will very likely have the proper drivers which can be ported to all the AOSP based ROM's (since it'll essentially be an AOSP ROM).
So keep your eyes open, because who knows when it'll happen, but it's not too far off.
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that is pretty much what im waiting for and deciding if ill switch over to ASOP. Hoping the "google edition" has beats zoe filters/mods (doesnt need actual zoe).
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that is pretty much what im waiting for and deciding if ill switch over to ASOP. Hoping the "google edition" has beats zoe filters/mods (doesnt need actual zoe).
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zoe and beats will still be present..read up a bit..
Its gonna have beats (wont be present in notification bar and probably wont be in settings) and it'll have a good camera, not sure about all the features though.
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zoe and beats will still be present..read up a bit..
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someone said no zoe, you say yes zoe, sources please and i already knew about beats. i just want to.. read up a bit..
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someone said no zoe, you say yes zoe, sources please and i already knew about beats. i just want to.. read up a bit..
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here
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here
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first link said no zoe. i would like your source, kind sir that said yes to zoe
Thanks! I'm going to hold off from flashing anything for the moment.
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Tried a couple of aosp based roms, namely aokp and cm11s and I've found the audio quality through the speaker to be far worse than with a Sense rom. It's tinny and much quieter.
Had this issue on my old One X plus and it was down to driver availability or lack of back in the day. Is this still the same situation with the One aosp based roms, driver issues causing the tinny and quiet sound through the speaker?
Thanks.
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Tried a couple of aosp based roms, namely aokp and cm11s and I've found the audio quality through the speaker to be far worse than with a Sense rom. It's tinny and much quieter.
Had this issue on my old One X plus and it was down to driver availability or lack of back in the day. Is this still the same situation with the One aosp based roms, driver issues causing the tinny and quiet sound through the speaker?
Thanks.
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basically yes ... if you want to enjoy the full boomsound experience your going to need Sense
Any proven mods out there that might improve the volume/quality of the audio for aosp based roms, even just a little?
Thanks.
maritimesbob said:
Any proven mods out there that might improve the volume/quality of the audio for aosp based roms, even just a little?
Thanks.
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yes .. see the oneplus one thread >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one/development/rom-cyanogenmod-11s-4-4-4-int-l-att-t-t2822636
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Any proven mods out there that might improve the volume/quality of the audio for aosp based roms, even just a little?
Thanks.
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You could try Viper which alot of people use. I use Volume+ to increase the volume. Both work on every rom I have ever used.
Is that Viper4Android from the market?
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Is that Viper4Android from the market?
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I think they have it on the play store but I just use the thread here on XDA as it is a better source for updated apks and info.