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http://omgdroid.com/cyanogenmod-10-preview-arrives-for-the-google-nexus-7-tablet/
Tried it and it's really fast and smooth.
Can someone tell me what the allure of Cyanogenmod is over the regular, stock Android?
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Can someone tell me what the allure of Cyanogenmod is over the regular, stock Android?
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Features, theming, tweaks, more control over your device.
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Features, theming, tweaks, more control over your device.
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I looked at some videos of CM10 on YouTube but besides the ability to put widgets on the lockscreen, I didn't see all these features and tweaks that you're referring to. Can you expand on that? Also, what do you mean by "more control over your device"?
I'm not downplaying or dismissing CM. Just trying to understand why it's so popular.
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I looked at some videos of CM10 on YouTube but besides the ability to put widgets on the lockscreen, I didn't see all these features and tweaks that you're referring to. Can you expand on that? Also, what do you mean by "more control over your device"?
I'm not downplaying or dismissing CM. Just trying to understand why it's so popular.
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This CM10 Preview is a VERY basic build, and will probably not have as much of the added functionality that CM9 would have (this is something I assume as I have not flashed this ROM yet). CM allows you much more control over customizing your device by adding more options under Settings, and also by including tweaks / fixes / new features. Things such as themes, Advanced Power Menu, more control over navigation bar, themes (yes I said that twice for a reason ), different launcher.
It also, in many cases, can make your device more responsive / faster by removing a lot of the 'bloatware' and unnecessary background apps that some manufacturers out in their ROMs.
Gotcha. Thanks for the rundown.
They would have a hard time to get me to use CM again, I once had a so-called "stable" build of CM 7.03 on my Desire last year and it had to be rebooted almost every day to fix a glitch here or there, presumably because of all the hacks/tweaks they use. Problems went away after going to a pure AOSP ROM.
Remember this is just a preview.
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Not sure if this has been asked on the forums, but can someone please tell me exactly, what is the difference between this and CM10[JellyBro] Nightly Kangs? I want to use the latest one as possible. Also, I know this is the Nexus 7 forum, but the same can be said for the Galaxy Nexus (maguro). Are the JellyBro Nightly Kangs the way to go for the latest CM10 previews?
Kangs are not official, this one is. I would recommend sticking with official since we got it now Official nightlies should come soon too.
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Can someone tell me what the allure of Cyanogenmod is over the regular, stock Android?
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well, afaik, more settings, faster, more mods, better customisability, themes, etc..
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Kangs are not official, this one is. I would recommend sticking with official since we got it now Official nightlies should come soon too.
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So this ROM is officially by CM himself? Does it run JellyBean? Also, does the Galaxy Nexus have official CM builds with JB?
https://plus.google.com/113334764480431682966/about he is one of the CM maintainers. This is a Nexus 7 forum not Galaxy Nexus.
O hay guyz when will th3re be updaytes for dis!?22211?11!!!
Heh, jk. Looks absolutely fabulous!!! I'm continuously blown away by the CM team. I can't wait until this is stable enough for a daily driver. This is my first tablet so I can be a little more daring. Nightly are almost always stable enough, but now that I have a phone AND a tablet it'd be all right to tinker even more so with the tablet.
This won't be good for my flashing addiction. We need a support group for all the married dudes with upset spouses lol
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Kangs are not official, this one is. I would recommend sticking with official since we got it now Official nightlies should come soon too.
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The ONLY difference between a nightly kang and an 'official' build will be cherry-picked features that have not been added to the official version. Usually, these are small tweaks that will within a week or two be added to the official releases.
There are no other differences. Stability will, almost inevitably, be the same between the two.
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The ONLY difference between a nightly kang and an 'official' build will be cherry-picked features that have not been added to the official version. Usually, these are small tweaks that will within a week or two be added to the official releases.
There are no other differences. Stability will, almost inevitably, be the same between the two.
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If they are the same, I'm going going to stay with the KANG nightly builds.
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Salty Wagyu said:
They would have a hard time to get me to use CM again, I once had a so-called "stable" build of CM 7.03 on my Desire last year and it had to be rebooted almost every day to fix a glitch here or there, presumably because of all the hacks/tweaks they use. Problems went away after going to a pure AOSP ROM.
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Cyanogen Mod has come a long way. CM is in 7.2 stage for the Desire HD at the moment. I wouldn't trade it for anything. Not once have I gotten a force close a random reboot or any other issues on CM7.2. Just because you have one bad issue, doesn't mean it should stop you from using their other roms. Remember you flash custom roms at your own risk and the word customer should make you expect issues here and there. :cyclops:
I've flashed a few custom ROMs + Kernels on my Nexus 7, but I always return to stock. I find stock JB to just be rock-solid, with great battery life.
I've found that most custom ROMs have some tiny issues, and they always bug me. Same with custom kernels. There's always an occasional crash here or there, or some unexpected jerkiness.
But I guess it's always a compromise. If you want features/performance, you'll have to live with bugs/lower battery life. But, being a Nexus, we'll get newer, feature-filled versions of Android right away!
So what about you guys? Do you feel that custom ROMs/kernels are lacking that perfection and finesse the stock ROM has? Or is your custom ROM completely stable with absolutely no bugs?
I love the custom ROMS. No complaints from me. I prefer some version of CM...usually AOKP. They are always upgrading it, so there are some small problems with it at times but I really enjoy it too much to complain or go back to stock. Don't get me wrong stock is very smooth with few problems.
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I've flashed a few custom ROMs + Kernels on my Nexus 7, but I always return to stock. I find stock JB to just be rock-solid, with great battery life.
I've found that most custom ROMs have some tiny issues, and they always bug me. Same with custom kernels. There's always an occasional crash here or there, or some unexpected jerkiness.
But I guess it's always a compromise. If you want features/performance, you'll have to live with bugs/lower battery life. But, being a Nexus, we'll get newer, feature-filled versions of Android right away!
So what about you guys? Do you feel that custom ROMs/kernels are lacking that perfection and finesse the stock ROM has? Or is your custom ROM completely stable with absolutely no bugs?
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I love the roms and never have problems with them. But i always end up back a stock. Even if the rom i m on :s fine
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Don't know what crap ROMs you've been using but all the ones I've ran were fine. Same goes with kernels.
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Nexus without custom roms . ohh my just sounds wrong.
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Don't know what crap ROMs you've been using but all the ones I've ran were fine. Same goes with kernels.
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I so agree with the above.. Also your opinion is welcome but due note that these developers are doing this as a community effort for FREE.. They improve our devices give us some things Google decided to leave out. Also im not sure you are aware of this or not . But often you will see some of the So called custom rom stuff injected into future GOOGLE STOCK ROMS... Google does watch the development community and use there code from time to time . My guess is alot more then they would tell...
Thanks Guys We love your Bleeding edge technology . We do appreciate everything...
Cyanogenmod works perfectly on both my phone and nexus 7. It's the best of both worlds really. Clean stock look but with a sprinkle of customization.
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You have to figure that 98% of us wouldn't be on this forum if we weren't using or interested in using custom ROMs.
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pre-Gingerbread --> custom ROM required
post-ICS --> stock is fine
My bootloader isn't even unlocked on my N7 and it's only unlocked on my GN so I can flash updates once OTA or images are posted.
I agree that all the roms are great. My favorite is PA, love that rom. But after a while i just feel like going back to stock. But then its not long before i am back on pa.
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I don't like custom Roms on devices that have the latest version of android available. I just root. Adding a custom kernel only makes things unstable.
My current ROM:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1892807
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Don't know what crap ROMs you've been using but all the ones I've ran were fine. Same goes with kernels.
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Denial.
My current ROM:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1892807
erica_renee said:
I so agree with the above.. Also your opinion is welcome but due note that these developers are doing this as a community effort for FREE.. They improve our devices give us some things Google decided to leave out. Also im not sure you are aware of this or not . But often you will see some of the So called custom rom stuff injected into future GOOGLE STOCK ROMS... Google does watch the development community and use there code from time to time . My guess is alot more then they would tell...
Thanks Guys We love your Bleeding edge technology . We do appreciate everything...
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I agree with the OP on ROMS, I haven't found one "better" than stock yet. Different yes, more/other customizations, yes. But so far not better. Yes, the devs do this for free, and for their own reasons. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't state our preferences. There are kernels that improve the device greatly, running one myself. But I've tried more than half a dozen custom ROMS and none gave me anything that would make me stick with it. Always went back to stock.
Not knocking all the hard work and effort. It's pretty amazing what some of these devs come up with, wish I had the knowledge and skills they have. Might try to pick up some basics, just so I understand more of everything involved with it. But I'm a system guy, not really a software dev.
Keep in mind we are nitpicking, custom features on new code it takes sometime implement them properly. I am rocking stock at the moment with stock recovery just cause Google is moving fast this time of year.
So take any bug with the custom Roms like this, yes it has more features, you may or may not be affected by bugs. If that bothers you then rock stock. Cause once cm hits stable that's when everything usually falls into place.
Just hopefully we can have less people posting silly complaints on in process releases. Go look in the Ubuntu thread, some user is just posting "its slow" or " there is no reason to use this" as if was a final product makes me smh
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Soldier-2Point0 said:
Denial.
My current ROM:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1892807
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Heh... I'm NOT in denial.
I haven't used a single ROM in the android development I only used ones from original development. Slim bean, eos, rasbean... all exceptional ROMs. Currently on rasbean and its by far the best for myself. Used trinity and Francos kernel have had better results with Francos, his is just about an optimised stockish kernel.
Always go with the people that know what they're doing. Not somebody who just builds aosp and throws some scripts and quadrant hacks to allude "speed"
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Nothing better than pure stock Android on a NEXUS device. Period.
It's different on a non nexus Device due to carrier's skins but on a NEXUS device come on people you know there's nothing better than pure stock.
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We shoul be lucky we have so many options for our Nexus 7, Stock ROM is rock stable and smooth , and to add to that we have almost 7-8 different custom ROMS which are also stable each with their own features and 3-4 different kernels to play with
I am flashing different ROM every 4-5 days
Play around people thats what I like about Android - complete control of your device and Nexus - quick latest stock updates and lots of custom development
Agreed, I prefer stock rom, but also I like to root it, and change fonts...
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Heh... I'm NOT in denial.
I haven't used a single ROM in the android development I only used ones from original development. Slim bean, eos, rasbean... all exceptional ROMs. Currently on rasbean and its by far the best for myself. Used trinity and Francos kernel have had better results with Francos, his is just about an optimised stockish kernel.
Always go with the people that know what they're doing. Not somebody who just builds aosp and throws some scripts and quadrant hacks to allude "speed"
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How are the latest build of rasbean. I only used build one or two.
Any chance you can link me to them?
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I'm not too into the roms in android development either, the ones in original development are pretty damn good though and eclipse Rom is really fast, I was into the stock only phase till 4.1.2 and imo development seem a lot better and roms just seemed actually faster than stock to me, rasbean, eclipse, pa, and bugless beast seem to do the trick for me
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Well you obviously haven't tried the RasBeanjelly ROM from rascarlo. When you try that one and the latest Trinity D-07 kernel, then you can talk about going back to Stock ROM.
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How are the latest build of rasbean. I only used build one or two.
Any chance you can link me to them?
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http://fitsnugly.euroskank.com/?rom=rasbeanjelly&device=grouper
But no tablet UI, so no good for me. Great apart from that!
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Check out this great review on the new Stock Android One and GS4. Can't wait to get some of this on our phones fully working.
Also, I noticed on htcdev.com that they released the 3.4.10 Kernel source for the One Special Edition running Android 4.2.
i cant wait till the roms start coming out
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Also, I noticed on htcdev.com that they released the 3.4.10 Kernel source for the One Special Edition running Android 4.2.
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Oh man! I am so pumped for this. I have been running Rootbox AOSP, and it has it's slight quirks and random animations that are stuttery, so it's gonna be awesome messing around with a perfect version of AOSP pretty soon here. Someone needs to release the RUU already
This is going to be amazing. I can't wait to start tinkering
stuff like zoe and beats wouldn't be ported over amirite?
I sincerely hope that within a week's time, we'll see the first major steps taken in the direction of a solidified, fully-functional build for Sprint's HTC One. Granted, things like CM 10.1 have nightlies, but sadly; not an official stable release in-sight for us.
That being said, perhaps the system dumps provided by GPE owners will significantly help steering these ROMs in the right direction.
It would still be fantastic if Sprint (and I suppose HTC in-partial) would quickly prepare the 4.2.2 w/ Sense 5 update for us.
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stuff like zoe and beats wouldn't be ported over amirite?
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From what I have gathered, beats will be a function you can turn off and on. I don't imagine Zoe will be there because that is a big time sense thing. And I think beats audio will likely not have the beats logo when it is running.
Keep in mind this isn't meant to be a hybrid HTC/Google device. It is a Google device. I'm sure they will implement the better sound, and some more root code stuff, but not as much on the front end / UI
From the looks of any of this I wouldn't get your hopes up for this "helping" anything. AOSP builds are already available. Until Sprint and HTC update Sense to 4.2.2 we will still be in limbo.
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From the looks of any of this I wouldn't get your hopes up for this "helping" anything. AOSP builds are already available. Until Sprint and HTC update Sense to 4.2.2 we will still be in limbo.
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One thing this could help is the kernel issues we are currently experiencing and hopefully the random bricking issue some people are experiencing when running AOSP roms.
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stuff like zoe and beats wouldn't be ported over amirite?
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Zoe is not there, but Beats is in the AOSP build on the HTC One GPe.
All I wish for is that they port the beats audio to our Aosp roms. Will make they audio so much better.
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Damn, was finally about to buy a One today, but this has me intrigued, since all I've used for years is AOSP ROMs. On that note, are people pretty satisfied with this device? I am a longtime HTC user. I plan on getting S-off ASAMFP. That was my hesitation coming from S-off Evo LTE, but I see moonshine is now available. :thumbup:
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Damn, was finally about to buy a One today, but this has me intrigued, since all I've used for years is AOSP ROMs. On that note, are people pretty satisfied with this device? I am a longtime HTC user. I plan on getting S-off ASAMFP. That was my hesitation coming from S-off Evo LTE, but I see moonshine is now available. :thumbup:
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This phone is amazing it's like the evo lte on steroids
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scottspa74 said:
Damn, was finally about to buy a One today, but this has me intrigued, since all I've used for years is AOSP ROMs. On that note, are people pretty satisfied with this device? I am a longtime HTC user. I plan on getting S-off ASAMFP. That was my hesitation coming from S-off Evo LTE, but I see moonshine is now available. :thumbup:
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Scott, brother you will not be disappointed. Aosp is still a bit quirky for some but with the current source dropped I expect great things in the Aosp world.
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scottspa74 said:
Damn, was finally about to buy a One today, but this has me intrigued, since all I've used for years is AOSP ROMs. On that note, are people pretty satisfied with this device? I am a longtime HTC user. I plan on getting S-off ASAMFP. That was my hesitation coming from S-off Evo LTE, but I see moonshine is now available. :thumbup:
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Just do it bro, get more thanks from me
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more disappointments
google will not be updating these directly like they do with their nexus devices
they are still leaving it up to the OEMs
so if you expect the nexus treatment, youre in for a huge disappointment
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=42986652#post42986652
They just posted a system dump over on the HTC One general forums. Ny'oh my god.
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From the looks of any of this I wouldn't get your hopes up for this "helping" anything. AOSP builds are already available. Until Sprint and HTC update Sense to 4.2.2 we will still be in limbo.
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My EVO 4G LTE just drowned the other day so I paid my ETF and bought the One from Radio Shack, it's going to be delivered tomorrow. I was wondering if the fact that HTC was releasing a One with stock android would significantly speed up development on AOSP roms for the Sprint version of the phone. I was also wondering if there will likely be proprietary code for the GPE of the phone that developers here wouldn't be able to use in their AOSP builds. I love stock Android and I've used CM on all my Android phones at one time or another but there always seems to be random nagging issues that eventually push me back to Sense. I guess my question is will the software for the GPE One really help solidify and speed up development of AOSP roms for Sprint's version of the phone.
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My EVO 4G LTE just drowned the other day so I paid my ETF and bought the One from Radio Shack, it's going to be delivered tomorrow. I was wondering if the fact that HTC was releasing a One with stock android would significantly speed up development on AOSP roms for the Sprint version of the phone. I was also wondering if there will likely be proprietary code for the GE version of the phone that developers here wouldn't be able to use in their AOSP builds. I love stock Android and I've used CM on all my Android phones at one time or another but there always seems to be random nagging issues that eventually push me back to Sense. I guess my question is will the software for the GE One really help solidify and speed up development of AOSP roms for Sprint's version of the phone.
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I believe you will see the GPe ROM ported to the Sprint One, but I don't know if it'll affect development by CM/AOKP/PA etc. There is still a lot of proprietary software in the GPe. That is, stuff devs can't use.
Hi everyone,
I must say that android 4.4 sounds like a great improvement for us as our device is getting older \=
However, I'm afraid that we may not get a stable rom running this version. I mean' we might get some rom that some how runs it, but still as many roms to our device thease days - they are not stable at all.
So what do you think? will we get it or not?
gavraz said:
Hi everyone,
I must say that android 4.4 sounds like a great improvement for us as our device is getting older \=
However, I'm afraid that we may not get a stable rom running this version. I mean' we might get some rom that some how runs it, but still as many roms to our device thease days - they are not stable at all.
So what do you think? will we get it or not?
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Lol why not @szezso is working on it. We are moving away from CM and going towards something closer to AOSP because of the changes in cm. Fyi.
The CM ROMs by szezso are basically stable..
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poondog said:
Lol why not @szezso is working on it. We are moving away from CM and going towards something closer to AOSP because of the changes in cm. Fyi.
The CM ROMs by szezso are basically stable..
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With this kid ^ as per usual. Szezso is a good dev. Its just another update. Hopefully it is as 'light' as they say. So it runs well.
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james1196 said:
With this kid ^ as per usual. Szezso is a good dev. Its just another update. Hopefully it is as 'light' as they say. So it runs well.
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I'll find out soon when Google/HTC decide to release kit kat for N7 and One Google edition
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I'll find out soon when Google/HTC decide to release kit kat for N7 and One Google edition
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My Nexus 5 will have it
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I'm sorry but I don't think szesco's roms are stable enough. I do appreciate his and contribution of course but since he doesn't have much time and also has many projects simultaneously, it results with poor stability and discontinued projects.
I'm using lacost rom and that one also is very poor like many other. It seems like it's better to use Android 2.3 based roms.
gavraz said:
I'm sorry but I don't think szesco's roms are stable enough. I do appreciate his and contribution of course but since he doesn't have much time and also has many projects simultaneously, it results with poor stability and discontinued projects.
I'm using lacost rom and that one also is very poor like many other. It seems like it's better to use Android 2.3 based roms.
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What do you define by stable...
Cuz the way I define stable is good enough to be a daily driver with the RARE random rebooting.
072665995 said:
What do you define by stable...
Cuz the way I define stable is good enough to be a daily driver with the RARE random rebooting.
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What rom do you use? I think I would define such a rom as stable too.
With lacost rom I'm experiancing every day (and sometimes more the once) situations were an app stops to respond or something and the whole phone get stuck, nothing responses. sometimes I have to wait, sometimes I have no other option but to remove the battery.
gavraz said:
What rom do you use? I think I would define such a rom as stable too.
With lacost rom I'm experiancing every day (and sometimes more the once) situations were an app stops to respond or something and the whole phone get stuck, nothing responses. sometimes I have to wait, sometimes I have no other option but to remove the battery.
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You can't compare ROM stability to app stability. I've seen lots of cases where apps just stop responding and that really doesn't have much to do with the ROM being unstable.
With the phone getting stuck from time to time, I experience no such problem or VERY RARELY on each AOSP ROM here. Sometimes, you may lose responsiveness but you can just lock your screen and then unlock it and that will fix it.
4.4 for HTC S2 will be dream coming true especially for phone with low memory.
JB from sezscoz is stable.. But i do find a lag in scrolling or navigating to diff app or setting etc..
Well, 4.4 is basically 4.3 with a couple of changes, and it was also designed to run on 512mb of ram, so if we got 4.3, i dont see a limitation on 4.4
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Well, 4.4 is basically 4.3 with a couple of changes, and it was also designed to run on 512mb of ram, so if we got 4.3, i dont see a limitation on 4.4
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It would be quite different taking into account its 'More' Pure AOSP rather than CM. It does look a bit different and apparently far 'lighter'.
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You can't compare ROM stability to app stability. I've seen lots of cases where apps just stop responding and that really doesn't have much to do with the ROM being unstable.
With the phone getting stuck from time to time, I experience no such problem or VERY RARELY on each AOSP ROM here. Sometimes, you may lose responsiveness but you can just lock your screen and then unlock it and that will fix it.
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Oh of course, I know. It isn't a specific app, sometimes it's the chrome sometimes whatsapp or Trebuchet launcher sometimes I don't even know what app causes it.
Something with the rom isn't right... the whole phone just stops responding.
I had love to use that AOSP rom, any recommendations on a specific one?
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Oh of course, I know. It isn't a specific app, sometimes it's the chrome sometimes whatsapp or Trebuchet launcher sometimes I don't even know what app causes it.
Something with the rom isn't right... the whole phone just stops responding.
I had love to use that AOSP rom, any recommendations on a specific one?
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I recommend CyanVivoX. Very stable and pretty much no bugs.
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I recommend CyanVivoX. Very stable and pretty much no bugs.
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CM build are very nice, but battery optimizations are bad.
On Sense roms my phone is working about 3-4 days!
And CM roms kill my IncS battery for 1-2 days
Hey all! I'm building a ROM and was wondering what your thoughts were on speed and stability on CM vs AOSP. From my experience, CM is faster but not as stable, and AOSP isn't as fast but is stable.
Please vote and/or comment on your thoughts!
CM tends to have worse battery, in my experience
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Tanmaynarang said:
Hey all! I'm building a ROM and was wondering what your thoughts were on speed and stability on CM vs AOSP. From my experience, CM is faster but not as stable, and AOSP isn't as fast but is stable.
Please vote and/or comment on your thoughts!
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Here are my beliefs (anyone feel free to correct me):
AOSP is rock solid (usually). It's not the fastest, but that can be fixed. It lacks features.
CM on the other hand isn't the most solid base, but they're very good about fixing bugs. They've got (arguably) one of the largest developer teams working on an aftermarket firmware. They do have more features as well.
What you need to answer is this: How clean of a base do you want to start off with? Do you want to go for AOSP and market it as simple and close to stock with hand-picked features and optimizations? Or do you want to start off with a CM base, having features that are now nearly ubiquitously considered "necessary"?
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CM tends to have worse battery, in my experience
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I've never experienced this, but I can see it happening because of the smaller range of kernels (since it's CAF).
Connor Baker said:
Here are my beliefs (anyone feel free to correct me):
AOSP is rock solid (usually). It's not the fastest, but that can be fixed. It lacks features.
CM on the other hand isn't the most solid base, but they're very good about fixing bugs. They've got (arguably) one of the largest developer teams working on an aftermarket firmware. They do have more features as well.
What you need to answer is this: How clean of a base do you want to start off with? Do you want to go for AOSP and market it as simple and close to stock with hand-picked features and optimizations? Or do you want to start off with a CM base, having features that are now nearly ubiquitously considered "necessary"?
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Valid points, I see CyanogenMod being geared as much more developer friendly and extensible, they even have better documentation for AOSP's tools than AOSP does
I want the ROM to be stable and fast, but also ready for customization, where I see AOSP not being very extensible.
So speed and stability is democracy now?
Actually if you are building a ROM from source, you are better off starting with aosp and merging the caf patches then go from there. You can look at patch commits/gerrit to see how to add in the features that you want since the code is normally available to see and will give you what line and all. In the process, you have something to call your own and learn the coding structure and source which is invaluable
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cm, fast? lmao..
simms22 said:
cm, fast? lmao..
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Keep Preaching brotha! Lol
He is Right about CM
tommypacker said:
Keep Preaching brotha! Lol
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The fact is that CM is starting to be real SLOW.
Go for AOSP based roms! Build with linaro? That's even faster.
v3ng3anc32002 said:
The fact is that CM is starting to be real SLOW.
Go for AOSP based roms! Build with linaro? That's even faster.
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cm was fast until about mid 2012. then they just started piling on as much as possible into the rom and it has been slower since. when steve(cyanogen) used to spend much time working on cm kernel, thats when cm was known for speed, back in the beginning and a little after cm started. back then, they werent about feature, more about minimalism. now its all about feature.
AOSP>CM
Always.
At any aspect.
CM has become so low and weak ROM since 2013. In the past it was the fastest and the most non-bull**** custom firmware but now as it's available for so many devices it's become sluggish, slow and the quality doesn't even exist. Another thing against CM is that they decided to use CAF code on Nexus devices. I can't understand it as well as other devs working in Nexus sections. I remember CM7 on my legendary HTC G2. It was so fast and damn feature-filled as for those times. Now it's gone. Formerly, my first thought on custom ROMs was CM, now it's quite different... I am so disappointed with CM nowadays.
Just my opinion tho ?
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The hell are people knocking caf code for??? It is aosp code with fixes for specific hardware by the people who actually make the hardware, wtf would you not use it for????
As far as cm fast, bwhahahahahaha, it hasn't been fast since about cm4 back on the g1/mytouch when dwang came into the picture. Cm's goal evolved to bleeding edge features and getting on as many devices as possible while dwang was straight aosp Roms with speed and stability as the goal
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If you own a nexus CyanogenMod is just as stable if not more so. Latest nightly is flawless.
I actually installed 30/6/2014 Nightly and seems faster to me in some areas, such as animation smoothness.
I was on PA 4.4 Final previously and hadn't touched CM11 for 3+ months.
Both were tested with latest Adreno drivers(June), same kernel, same kernel settings and the same Gapps; only the ROM changed.
Konstantinos said:
I actually installed 30/6/2014 Nightly and seems faster to me in some areas, such as animation smoothness.
I was on PA 4.4 Final previously and hadn't touched CM11 for 3+ months.
Both were tested with latest Adreno drivers(June), same kernel, same kernel settings and the same Gapps; only the ROM changed.
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faster than velocity?
pincher65 said:
faster than velocity?
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Isn't Velocity the ROM that has ART by default? And lots of commits to ART. Still, ART is experimental in KitKat, so in the L release there will be lots of changes. I'd rather use something which doesn't have commits to something experimental(such as ART).
Also, I must note that Velocity has changed the animation to 0,75. This results as being "faster" (because of transition) but it's not. Try testing both @ 1.0 animation speed and see for yourself.
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Isn't Velocity the ROM that has ART by default? And lots of commits to ART. Still, ART is experimental in KitKat, so in the L release there will be lots of changes. I'd rather use something which doesn't have commits to something experimental(such as ART).
Also, I must note that Velocity has changed the animation to 0,75. This results as being "faster" (because of transition) but it's not. Try testing both @ 1.0 animation speed and see for yourself.
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A real test would be turning animations completely off and seeing what's faster. That's where real speed and optimisation can be noticed. 1.0 is just too damn slow.
Konstantinos said:
I actually installed 30/6/2014 Nightly and seems faster to me in some areas, such as animation smoothness.
I was on PA 4.4 Final previously and hadn't touched CM11 for 3+ months.
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Try stock AOSP, way faster than PA.
I've got 2 nexus 4s so I can do nexus 4 vs nexus 4. Nothing beats stock jellybean.
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calyxim said:
Try stock AOSP, way faster than PA.
I've got 2 nexus 4s so I can do nexus 4 vs nexus 4. Nothing beats stock jellybean.
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stock jellybean??? kitkat??
I'm stock unrooted on my n5 so far, running art and no animations. Feels blazingly fast to me. I miss custom Roms for the themes and a couple features they usually include but other than that stock has been almost 100% stable even with art.
I reboot it once every week or two and saw one soft reboot the other day in the couple months I've had it, not sure what caused it.
Still trying to decide if its worth rooting and what ROM to run. I like art which rules out stock with xposed.
I've been a chronic ROM flasher on every phone I've had until this one. It just works so good I'm afraid to mess with it. Especially when I've got warranty.
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