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[ROM] Final Froyo Release for Obsidian by CCRoms V2.02 Next Up Gingerbread

Welcome to the final release of Froyo, by the CCRoms team, which means you guessed it, we're switching gears to Gingerbread after this release. With this release we managed to get the Evo/Emerald going as intended(sorry for the wait.) The Galaxy S style pulldown power widget has been implemented in this release as well. Gem settings have been completely re-written as well, to provide a more intuitive and easier to understand interface for everyone, and of course bug fixes abound.
downloads available at: http://www.ccroms.net
Note:
Droid X users, at this point there is nothign more we can find to do to improve battery life. When/If the battery starts to drain fast, gets sluggish, or gets hot, reboot the phone this will put the race condition causing all of these problems back to sleep, unfortunately there is no way to put the process back to sleep once it wakes up and if you kill the process kernel panics and the phone reboots anyway.

sniffle said:
Welcome to the final release of Froyo, by the CCRoms team, which means you guessed it, we're switching gears to Gingerbread after this release. With this release we managed to get the Evo/Emerald going as intended(sorry for the wait.) The Galaxy S style pulldown power widget has been implemented in this release as well. Gem settings have been completely re-written as well, to provide a more intuitive and easier to understand interface for everyone, and of course bug fixes abound.
downloads available at: http://www.ccroms.net
Note:
Droid X users, at this point there is nothign more we can find to do to improve battery life. When/If the battery starts to drain fast, gets sluggish, or gets hot, reboot the phone this will put the race condition causing all of these problems back to sleep, unfortunately there is no way to put the process back to sleep once it wakes up and if you kill the process kernel panics and the phone reboots anyway.
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How do you plan on bringing gingerbread to the droid x when we won't have the proper kernel to take advantage of it?

Are the "known issues" (GPS, camera/camcorder, etc.) fixed in this release?

avlfive said:
Are the "known issues" (GPS, camera/camcorder, etc.) fixed in this release?
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No they are not. It shows all the known issues from the dl link posted above

bravo1234 said:
How do you plan on bringing gingerbread to the droid x when we won't have the proper kernel to take advantage of it?
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for the record, a kernel is nothing more than a core piece of low-level software that executes other programs and provides access to the hardware. nothing says that when you upgrade an android version you MUST upgrade the kernel as well, if anything you just might need to modify how android interfaces with the hardware to match the old kernel interfaces.

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No they are not. It shows all the known issues from the dl link posted above
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Saw that, just didn't know if it hadn't been updated quite yet. Too bad. I'm still waiting on these to be fixed before I can jump back in. LOVED the ROM though.

avlfive said:
Saw that, just didn't know if it hadn't been updated quite yet. Too bad. I'm still waiting on these to be fixed before I can jump back in. LOVED the ROM though.
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Those are all a must for me at least
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I don't understand the gps issue or the camera issue. If there was fine GPS and a camera i would love the fact it is AOSP however not that i use them all that often but if i loaded it i would inevitably need one or both. and its still beta if you can't get a totally stable and working froyo rom how will you ever get the GB stable. Will the kexec(?) be used to use custom kernels to make the gps and camera work?

I just booted this up seemed ok other than the problems known but for some reason it wouldn't let me download anything from the market said I didn't have enough room.... Idk y that happened
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I just booted this up seemed ok other than the problems known but for some reason it wouldn't let me download anything from the market said I didn't have enough room.... Idk y that happened
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same here. it's been reported in other obsidian forums too. i was able to get around it by using an older version of market. i installed cm gapps instead of obsidian gapps. The cm gapps had a version of market from 2 month ago. everything worked fine. then i updated my market to 2.2.11 and the "There's not enough room..." error message was right back again.
other than that, i really love how clean and fast this rom is. thanks a ton cvpcs and best of luck with the cyanogenmod team.

any pics of the drop down toggles???

tttuning said:
any pics of the drop down toggles???
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbKJy6MPUz0

cvpcs said:
for the record, a kernel is nothing more than a core piece of low-level software that executes other programs and provides access to the hardware. nothing says that when you upgrade an android version you MUST upgrade the kernel as well, if anything you just might need to modify how android interfaces with the hardware to match the old kernel interfaces.
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what...? What!? That is completely wrong... Nothing says you have to upgrade the kernel... unless Gingerbread uses modules not currently in the present kernel, which I can pretty much guarantee it will... Your statement could hold true for something such as minor update like 2.2 to 2.2.1 as we saw earlier, but would very like cause many things to not work come gingerbread. A good example is the previous hacked upgrades of 2.1 to 2.2 back before the proper kernels were released (specifically in memory of the HTC Incredible) sure, 2.2 could run without the proper kernel, of course your WiFi wouldn't work, GPS didn't work, if you tried to run the 720p camera it would crash, as well as several others that I cannot remember as of this moment. The kernel is not "just a low level piece of software" it is the backbone of your entire system, especially when it comes to the system talking with the hardware itself.

I think Taco that you should reread CVPS post. It stated this...
"nothing says that when you upgrade an android version you MUST upgrade the kernel as well"
Which is what you said was wrong, then said the same thing following it.

So how is the rom working for everyone? or it's pretty much dead..

ram130 said:
So how is the rom working for everyone? or it's pretty much dead..
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I think it was pretty much dead on arrival when it said the camera & camcorder didn't work...that's kind of a mandatory feature of any smartphone.
If it's been fixed...then they're lame for not updating the page noting the bugs.

JagoX said:
I think it was pretty much dead on arrival when it said the camera & camcorder didn't work...that's kind of a mandatory feature of any smartphone.
If it's been fixed...then they're lame for not updating the page noting the bugs.
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Well that sucks ..development on this phone is so slow..

The worst part is the x HAD so much potential, do to great things. I have watched this forum since the day the x launched and the sad thing is that the tbolt is only 6 days old right now and has a much larger devwlopment thread than the x has had at any point. Sad to say it but i think moto phones are done in the development community.
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The worst part is the x HAD so much potential, do to great things. I have watched this forum since the day the x launched and the sad thing is that the tbolt is only 6 days old right now and has a much larger devwlopment thread than the x has had at any point. Sad to say it but i think moto phones are done in the development community.
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The X development has all but ceased from what I can see. Such a bummer since I'm stuck with it for another year and a half. Hopefully we can see a few updates to some ROMs once gingerbread rolls around for the phone, but after that I don't see much reason for hope.

True...so what was the most annoying issue with this rom? Im thinking about flashing it. Im on 3.4.2 now.
Also you can sell your DX on swappa.com then pay the difference and get a htc.

[Q] why all the craze for GB when its full of bugs?

Whys everyone "OMG! I CANT WAIT FOR GB" or "CANT WAIT TO GET YOUR GB ROM" etc?
The OFFICIAL i9000 gb update has been pulled because its so full of issues still? Do people really think its a good idea?!
I loaded a few to try em out. They were all garbage.

actually if your flashaholic it really matters it's their choice.. for the positive note it gives feedback to the dev to work for improvements and the end result is a much polished rom. somehow when it will be stable you will be using it. give thanks to all the users who act as a ginuia pig for that cause....

I am thankful for the GB drop and all the devs that work on it. However, I have flashed probably a thousand things in the last year. Including spl and radios. The gingerbread rom bricked my phone when going back to stock and now I am using the backup G1 hoping Samsung is able to fix it without charging me for the repair, I am under the one year warranty. So just a warning read a whole thread before you try flashing these GB roms. They can kill your phone if you try to go back to stock.

Well then you have not tried Continuim 5 B3. I have tried all the others and find I fast and smooth and am using it as my daily driver. I am addicted to flashing so I will keep trying other gingerbreads but you should at least check it out.

C5 is nice. It's more about staying up with the times for some but it is smooth. This is the same question when froyo came out and I get it but we are in the early stages. When this is lined out you wont move back and all of the people hyping it will test and work out the bugs for the rest. Be happy the hype is going on and others like me test it. You will be rocking it eventually I guarantee.
longr6 said:
Well then you have not tried Continuim 5 B3. I have tried all the others and find I fast and smooth and am using it as my daily driver. I am addicted to flashing so I will keep trying other gingerbreads but you should at least check it out.
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My only issue currently is the gallery loads like garbage, otherwise I've had almost no problems.

I enjoy flashing trying the latest things. Our Devs will work out the bugs and make us some beautiful smooth running roms i am sure! And i will flash everyone most likely haha...

longr6 said:
Well then you have not tried Continuim 5 B3. I have tried all the others and find I fast and smooth and am using it as my daily driver. I am addicted to flashing so I will keep trying other gingerbreads but you should at least check it out.
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Used it. It lasted the longest. Tried all their betas. The worst with that was the keyboard. It acted whacky as ****!!

im running continuum v5 and it is very stable.. dont know what you are talking about

emooheo said:
im running continuum v5 and it is very stable.. dont know what you are talking about
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Give the keyboard a day or two. It thinks you long press buttons when you don't and auto correct is WAY off

Some people just like bugs I guess, cutting edge and all.
Caution swyping! Read at your own risk.

Simple
Something different
Although flashing boot loaders its risky business
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Dont know about you but i was late to android espcially after the i9000 froyo roms dropped. Running the gb roms helps people that werent into development before reach out into dev work. Making the whole community stronger. Thats just my view on it. Hopefully with a little bit of reading and practice even I can contribute.
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joe3681 said:
Used it. It lasted the longest. Tried all their betas. The worst with that was the keyboard. It acted whacky as ****!!
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I have not had much of a problem with the GB keyboard. Only issue was FC when going to about phone. I just switch to the Samsung keyboard if I need to get there. I am looking forward to RC whatever when it posts again. You got to love the battery life. I was happily surprised.

joe3681 said:
Give the keyboard a day or two. It thinks you long press buttons when you don't and auto correct is WAY off
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I'm running Continuum V.5 RC2 and it is as good as anything else I've ran on my Cappy. I use Swype exclusively, so I haven't seen any keyboard issues.

gorgy76 said:
actually if your flashaholic it really matters it's their choice.. for the positive note it gives feedback to the dev to work for improvements and the end result is a much polished rom. somehow when it will be stable you will be using it. give thanks to all the users who act as a ginuia pig for that cause....
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That pretty much sums it up. LOL.
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ROMs ?

Are people working on ROMs for this phone? I only ask because I make the plunge Friday and I recently realized how amazing this phone is. I have tiny hands.. so... I'm souped. But I'm not sure if it will get 4.2.2, or 4.3 or 5.0 or whatever next Android version comes out. And also, I love what Paranoid Android has been putting out. Just wondering if things like that are happening behind the scenes. Didn't see any other threads or posts about it.

I would assume that once HTC releases the kernel source code, this phone will receive similar love as many other photos do. I will personally do my best to ensure that CyanogenMod becomes available for it if no one else steps up to take care of it. The fact that it ships with stock Android can only make that task easier.
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nuclear_eclipse said:
I would assume that once HTC releases the kernel source code, this phone will receive similar love as many other photos do. I will personally do my best to ensure that CyanogenMod becomes available for it if no one else steps up to take care of it. The fact that it ships with stock Android can only make that task easier.
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Having a RUU available in case something goes haywire definitely helps too. A lot of people don't want to change the firmware dramatically just yet if they don't have the ability to roll it back to factory.

nuclear_eclipse said:
I would assume that once HTC releases the kernel source code, this phone will receive similar love as many other photos do. I will personally do my best to ensure that CyanogenMod becomes available for it if no one else steps up to take care of it. The fact that it ships with stock Android can only make that task easier.
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This is true. I'm gonna guess the RUU should be released soon? The One's RUU was just released This makes my decision a little bit more difficult but in the best way cause now I could get this phone and not be too upset since it should get upgraded at this rate. Much love guys. Thanks. Been itching for an android device with great battery that fits in my hand.

TRF-Inferno said:
Having a RUU available in case something goes haywire definitely helps too. A lot of people don't want to change the firmware dramatically just yet if they don't have the ability to roll it back to factory.
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Wouldn't a nandroid backup be more than enough to allow users to roll back to stock if they choose to? Or are you talking about something more than that?

nuclear_eclipse said:
Wouldn't a nandroid backup be more than enough to allow users to roll back to stock if they choose to? Or are you talking about something more than that?
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A RUU would completely revert everything back to stock -- bootloader, recovery, system, radio, etc.

i played with one of these when i got my One
we could probably get a sense 4+ or sense 5 port going on it
i wish i had one to screw with

Zarboz said:
i played with one of these when i got my One
we could probably get a sense 4+ or sense 5 port going on it
i wish i had one to screw with
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Lol that would be counterproductive. I think one of the reasons people like the first is because it DOES NOT have Sense!
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phositadc said:
Lol that would be counterproductive. I think one of the reasons people like the first is because it DOES NOT have Sense!
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lol yeah
idk how hard it would be to get AOSP builds going on this either
i assume easy since most the stuff is aosp already

[Discussion] Android 4.4 - will we get a stable? (show your opinion)

Hi everyone,
I must say that android 4.4 sounds like a great improvement for us as our device is getting older \=
However, I'm afraid that we may not get a stable rom running this version. I mean' we might get some rom that some how runs it, but still as many roms to our device thease days - they are not stable at all.
So what do you think? will we get it or not?

gavraz said:
Hi everyone,
I must say that android 4.4 sounds like a great improvement for us as our device is getting older \=
However, I'm afraid that we may not get a stable rom running this version. I mean' we might get some rom that some how runs it, but still as many roms to our device thease days - they are not stable at all.
So what do you think? will we get it or not?
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Lol why not @szezso is working on it. We are moving away from CM and going towards something closer to AOSP because of the changes in cm. Fyi.
The CM ROMs by szezso are basically stable..
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poondog said:
Lol why not @szezso is working on it. We are moving away from CM and going towards something closer to AOSP because of the changes in cm. Fyi.
The CM ROMs by szezso are basically stable..
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With this kid ^ as per usual. Szezso is a good dev. Its just another update. Hopefully it is as 'light' as they say. So it runs well.
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james1196 said:
With this kid ^ as per usual. Szezso is a good dev. Its just another update. Hopefully it is as 'light' as they say. So it runs well.
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I'll find out soon when Google/HTC decide to release kit kat for N7 and One Google edition

poondog said:
I'll find out soon when Google/HTC decide to release kit kat for N7 and One Google edition
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My Nexus 5 will have it
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I'm sorry but I don't think szesco's roms are stable enough. I do appreciate his and contribution of course but since he doesn't have much time and also has many projects simultaneously, it results with poor stability and discontinued projects.
I'm using lacost rom and that one also is very poor like many other. It seems like it's better to use Android 2.3 based roms.

gavraz said:
I'm sorry but I don't think szesco's roms are stable enough. I do appreciate his and contribution of course but since he doesn't have much time and also has many projects simultaneously, it results with poor stability and discontinued projects.
I'm using lacost rom and that one also is very poor like many other. It seems like it's better to use Android 2.3 based roms.
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What do you define by stable...
Cuz the way I define stable is good enough to be a daily driver with the RARE random rebooting.

072665995 said:
What do you define by stable...
Cuz the way I define stable is good enough to be a daily driver with the RARE random rebooting.
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What rom do you use? I think I would define such a rom as stable too.
With lacost rom I'm experiancing every day (and sometimes more the once) situations were an app stops to respond or something and the whole phone get stuck, nothing responses. sometimes I have to wait, sometimes I have no other option but to remove the battery.

gavraz said:
What rom do you use? I think I would define such a rom as stable too.
With lacost rom I'm experiancing every day (and sometimes more the once) situations were an app stops to respond or something and the whole phone get stuck, nothing responses. sometimes I have to wait, sometimes I have no other option but to remove the battery.
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You can't compare ROM stability to app stability. I've seen lots of cases where apps just stop responding and that really doesn't have much to do with the ROM being unstable.
With the phone getting stuck from time to time, I experience no such problem or VERY RARELY on each AOSP ROM here. Sometimes, you may lose responsiveness but you can just lock your screen and then unlock it and that will fix it.

4.4 for HTC S2 will be dream coming true especially for phone with low memory.
JB from sezscoz is stable.. But i do find a lag in scrolling or navigating to diff app or setting etc..

Well, 4.4 is basically 4.3 with a couple of changes, and it was also designed to run on 512mb of ram, so if we got 4.3, i dont see a limitation on 4.4
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LamboBull said:
Well, 4.4 is basically 4.3 with a couple of changes, and it was also designed to run on 512mb of ram, so if we got 4.3, i dont see a limitation on 4.4
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It would be quite different taking into account its 'More' Pure AOSP rather than CM. It does look a bit different and apparently far 'lighter'.
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You can't compare ROM stability to app stability. I've seen lots of cases where apps just stop responding and that really doesn't have much to do with the ROM being unstable.
With the phone getting stuck from time to time, I experience no such problem or VERY RARELY on each AOSP ROM here. Sometimes, you may lose responsiveness but you can just lock your screen and then unlock it and that will fix it.
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Oh of course, I know. It isn't a specific app, sometimes it's the chrome sometimes whatsapp or Trebuchet launcher sometimes I don't even know what app causes it.
Something with the rom isn't right... the whole phone just stops responding.
I had love to use that AOSP rom, any recommendations on a specific one?

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Oh of course, I know. It isn't a specific app, sometimes it's the chrome sometimes whatsapp or Trebuchet launcher sometimes I don't even know what app causes it.
Something with the rom isn't right... the whole phone just stops responding.
I had love to use that AOSP rom, any recommendations on a specific one?
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I recommend CyanVivoX. Very stable and pretty much no bugs.

072665995 said:
I recommend CyanVivoX. Very stable and pretty much no bugs.
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CM build are very nice, but battery optimizations are bad.
On Sense roms my phone is working about 3-4 days!
And CM roms kill my IncS battery for 1-2 days

Flashed My First Rom

Just flashed my first ROM (Cataclysm). Needless to say I was very nervous but thanks to these forums I rooted and flashed pretty easily. My only question is, how to I avoid becoming addicted now....
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jtb79 said:
My only question is, how to I avoid becoming addicted now....
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Hi,
Never begin flashing stuff...
Go back to full stock and never unlock/root again...
Forget this nice and exciting moment (first flash), it's bad for you and your addiction, no longer look behind you, look ahead ...
Think about how you was very nervous, too much stress, maybe too dangerous for health and it's not worth...
Think about your phone, maybe to much stress and fear for him too, maybe it doesn't like you for now, save your relation with him, it is not yet too late...
Try to find help from a repentant flashaholic...
And the most important, leave XDA for always...
In any case welcome and congratulations...
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jtb79 said:
Just flashed my first ROM (Cataclysm). Needless to say I was very nervous but thanks to these forums I rooted and flashed pretty easily. My only question is, how to I avoid becoming addicted now....
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Welcome to the dark side! Once you enter there is no turning back!! Hope you enjoy the xda life

A.A.
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Welcome to XDA! There's no turning back! Happy Flashing!

I wouldn't say there's no turning back. I used to flash every rom there was starting from the Samsung Captivate all the way through the HTC One. Starting from my Moto X, and now this phone, I haven't flashed a single rom. I guess stock android is just that good now. Of course, I always root and install gravity box, but who knows, maybe that will go away soon too with 5.0.

Well done for flashing the best rom already. U don't need to flash any others now anyway
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Once you start flashing....you can never go back.

Why didnt anyone warn me all those years ago?!
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jtb79 said:
My only question is, how to I avoid becoming addicted now....
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It'll pass, I've gone the other way and gone back to 100% stock (locked bootloaded and all!) as I got bored of flashing new stuff every (other) day. Android is at a point now where stock does everything I need it to

EddyOS said:
It'll pass, I've gone the other way and gone back to 100% stock (locked bootloaded and all!) as I got bored of flashing new stuff every (other) day. Android is at a point now where stock does everything I need it to
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I'll agree with that. I got hooked flashing all the time starting with cm9 on my devices. Flashing every single night etc. Did this for years. Only thing I have done is flashed Franco kernel on my N5 and have Gravity Box installed. Couldn't be happier.

I am in same boat too, just flashing kernels these days.
I have to have, Elemental for my usage, followed development before I had my N5. (Using since HOXL)
The rest, I may try, but usually go back to stock other then kernel.
Hence my desire for nexus, no skins to remove, just a tweak or two.
WR
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aooga said:
I wouldn't say there's no turning back. I used to flash every rom there was starting from the Samsung Captivate all the way through the HTC One. Starting from my Moto X, and now this phone, I haven't flashed a single rom. I guess stock android is just that good now. Of course, I always root and install gravity box, but who knows, maybe that will go away soon too with 5.0.
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I'm going to have to agree with you. A couple years ago, I was flashing constantly (multiple roms a day if I was feeling really crazy). Now, I just don't feel the need. Stock Android is rock-solid at this point and I don't feel like roms offer any meaningful improvement anymore. It was a whole different ballgame back in the CM7 days.

While I'm completely stock on the N5, and probably will be for a while...one of the inherent joys of having wizbang custom roms is that often times when other people pick up your phone, they seriously have no idea how to use it.
It's nerdy to think this is fun of course, but dammit...it is fun.

Flashing Rom is the only way imo.
however stock N5 is near perfect

jtb79 said:
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Heh... it's addicting.
Much as I liked the stock stuff, I got used to the fancy stuff that I had running paranoid android 3.99 on my s3... so now I've been ROM jumping kk nightlies trying to find the best approximation. Beanstalk is where I've settled while I wait for PA to start putting out feature nightlies in the hammerhead stream.

I'd say that the feeling that you got when you flashed your first ROM is nothing compared to the feeling of getting out of your first bootloop or bad flash or your first buildbot actually booting. Knowing how to get out of those situations bring a sense of pride that you can only get from knowing what you are doing at a base level.
I'm talking about people on forums and not your mom or friend now, but so many people don't know the very basics of how these things work. More to the point they don't know of the potential they have (both good and bad). That all comes with time and exposure though. I still remember my first terminal script for apps2sd on Éclair.
It really doesn't matter what ROM or Kernel I am running because by the time I get done breaking it down and rebuilding it, it very rarely looks like the original version. Actually troubleshooting something and fixing it correctly, then that fix gets implemented into someone else's problem and you can talk them back from the edge of panic. That is the buzz for me.

I love my N5 on stock rom, but who knows when paranoid comes with all his features ill be tempted

mee too

I used to flash roms pretty often on my Desire HD but since I've gotten my Nexus 5 I haven't flashed a rom yet. I am however, unlocked, rooted, and using a custom recovery. I'm a cm fan so once they release a stable build with all the features I want I'm sure I'll flash cm11
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