Rooted device Stock Android OTA update possible? - One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi I'm using a stock version of my rom with only the menu mod and cwm applied, and i was wondering if i still can apply ota updated by simply temporary unrooting my device with rootkeeper ?

lukzke said:
Hi I'm using a stock version of my rom with only the menu mod and cwm applied, and i was wondering if i still can apply ota updated by simply temporary unrooting my device with rootkeeper ?
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You need stock recovery and for the bootloader to be locked to get OTA updates

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rooted with OTA?

Can i root my froyo 2.2 keep the stock rom and receive OTAs? I basically want to have root without any modded rom's and be able to get OTA updates.
as long as you have the stock recovery you're ok for OTA
OTA updates will remove root, so you'll have to re-root.
You need stock recovery to apply OTA's and custom recovery to root.
Is your bootloader unlocked?
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I searched forum for that solution, but without results.
It would be nice to have tutorial for this.
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No my bootloader is locked
So then you'll be able to use an OTA but you'll lose root. With a locked bootloader that would be bad. Best to not use OTAs and instead rely on pre-rooted updates posted here. Of course you may need a custom recovery for that.
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In regards to stock recovery, where can i get a copy of it. I wanted to return to stock recovery to get the OTA so i don't have to perform manual updates. I currently have Amon's recovery.
C64c said:
In regards to stock recovery, where can i get a copy of it. I wanted to return to stock recovery to get the OTA so i don't have to perform manual updates. I currently have Amon's recovery.
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The "security fixes" in FRF91 include patching the exploit used to gain root with the bootloader locked.
So, if you revert to stock recovery and then install the FRF91 OTA - you will not be able to regain root unless you go back to a previous passimg, update to FRF85B and then install a repacked, pre-rooted FRF91 through custom recovery.
Basically, you can't have root on a fully stock FRF91 OTA
So to get root we now need to void our warranty? That's annoying.
No
From FRF91 you need to PASSIMG back to an earlier build, then update to 85B. The root with locked bootloader method works from there.
Then, as stated above, you can use a re-packed update to FRF91 to keep root. You just can't use the OTA to FRF91 and keep root.
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Can I meet up and get you to do this, willing to pay. Have a rooted running frf50, tried everything to het this loaded, no luck?

[Q] Rooting and OTA

Hi,
I know this has been discussed in several ocassions, and I have read several threads but none of them answer my question.
I am wondering if I root my HTC One and keep the device with the stock rom (I only want to root for some apps that needs su) will I be able to get OTA updates?
If not, if I also do S-OFF will I be able to? Please keep in mind that I do not want to flash a custom rom, where then the answer I believe would be to unroot and apply the OTA.
Thank you
buzmay said:
Hi,
I know this has been discussed in several ocassions, and I have read several threads but none of them answer my question.
I am wondering if I root my HTC One and keep the device with the stock rom (I only want to root for some apps that needs su) will I be able to get OTA updates?
If not, if I also do S-OFF will I be able to? Please keep in mind that I do not want to flash a custom rom, where then the answer I believe would be to unroot and apply the OTA.
Thank you
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No, and youll need a custom kernel with disabled write protection for the root to stick, which will not allow OTA's to work. if you really want root, download a custom stock rom
IINexusII said:
No, and youll need a custom kernel with disabled write protection for the root to stick, which will not allow OTA's to work. if you really want root, download a custom stock rom
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But what about S-OFF not even with it it would work? I am confuse because I saw a guide here in XDA saying the following:
Rooting stock ROM
What you need to know before rooting stock ROM:
You can "un-root" it easily.
As long as you won't change any files on system partition, you still will be able to download and install official OTA updates.
Download Rooting Tools
Boot your device in recovery mode (power off the device and turn it on using power + vol down buttons and select "RECOVERY")
In main menu, select "install zip from sdcard" and "choose zip from sdcard".
Navigate to the location of Rooting Tools (zip) package and confirm flashing procedure.
After flashing process is complete, reboot the device. Your device has now SuperUser.apk, su binary and busybox installed.
So is this not true?
Link to this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2265618
buzmay said:
But what about S-OFF not even with it it would work? I am confuse because I saw a guide here in XDA saying the following:
Rooting stock ROM
What you need to know before rooting stock ROM:
You can "un-root" it easily.
As long as you won't change any files on system partition, you still will be able to download and install official OTA updates.
Download Rooting Tools
Boot your device in recovery mode (power off the device and turn it on using power + vol down buttons and select "RECOVERY")
In main menu, select "install zip from sdcard" and "choose zip from sdcard".
Navigate to the location of Rooting Tools (zip) package and confirm flashing procedure.
After flashing process is complete, reboot the device. Your device has now SuperUser.apk, su binary and busybox installed.
So is this not true?
Link to this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2265618
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Having S-off won't effect OTAs but having a custom recovery will. Best to go all stock, rom and recovery to receive the OTA updates. You can root after.
Note: Do the S-off procedure before you update. If your hboot gets updated, you're outta luck.
farang4u said:
Having S-off won't effect OTAs but having a custom recovery will. Best to go all stock, rom and recovery to receive the OTA updates. You can root after.
Note: Do the S-off procedure before you update. If your hboot gets updated, you're outta luck.
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Ok, but now for instance I do have 4.2.2 so if I root and then there is an update 4.3 then what? I am interested in being only root and being able to get the updates. So every time an OTA comes I shall unroot and then root? This option is not as optimal as I would have though it would be.
Thanks
buzmay said:
Ok, but now for instance I do have 4.2.2 so if I root and then there is an update 4.3 then what? I am interested in being only root and being able to get the updates. So every time an OTA comes I shall unroot and then root? This option is not as optimal as I would have though it would be.
Thanks
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As long as you have a stock recovery and rom, you should be able to receive OTAs on a rooted phone. Not %100 certain though.
Note: An OTA update could break the root and other mods you made to the rom and cause some other issues.
farang4u said:
As long as you have a stock recovery and rom, you should be able to receive OTAs on a rooted phone. Not %100 certain though.
Note: An OTA update could break the root and other mods you made to the rom and cause some other issues.
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But how can I have a stock recovery and be root? Dont I need a custome recovery to root?
buzmay said:
But how can I have a stock recovery and be root? Dont I need a custome recovery to root?
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You need custom recovery to run the rooting process. After your system is rooted you can then flash back to the stock recovery. You should still have root access but I could be wrong. Download "Root Checker" from the play store, run it to see if your device is still rooted. You still need a stock recovery to receive OTA updates though.
The reason you need stock recovery is that you can't install an official update with custom recovery. The type of recovery you have doesn't affect root access.
The reason you have to keep your system files perfectly stock is that an OTA is a patch, meaning it doesn't necessarily replace entire files but mainly snippets of code. If the system files are not stock, it can't do this properly. So it checks /system before running and stops if things are not perfectly stock.
You can get OTAs being rooted, you just can't install them unless you have stock recovery and a fully stock rom.
If you're stock on 4.2.2 right now, you can't s-off, so don't worry about that.
You don't have to flash a custom rom, but you can flash a stock rooted rom. With OTAs, you play the cat-and-mouse game. Can I root it? Did the HBOOT update and kill current S-OFF procedures?
If 4.3 does come out, all you would have to do is wait for a few days for a dev to cook a stock rooted 4.3 rom. AT&T always lags with updates, yet I have a fully functioning 4.2.2 M7 with LTE and no AT&T bloat all thanks to the devs who cook stock rooted roms.

Are Radio/Firmware updates included in the latest Roms?

I've had mine Rooted with a custom recovery and a custom rom for months now, I was just wondering when the Sense 4.3 comes will it update everything for me as I cannot get OTA? If not, what do I have to do to get OTA back? Do I just have to install an official rom and recovery img? I'm guessing rooting doesn't stop OTA as I was able to OTA in the past on another phone with it rooted.
thanx.
slannmage said:
I've had mine Rooted with a custom recovery and a custom rom for months now, I was just wondering when the Sense 4.3 comes will it update everything for me as I cannot get OTA? If not, what do I have to do to get OTA back? Do I just have to install an official rom and recovery img? I'm guessing rooting doesn't stop OTA as I was able to OTA in the past on another phone with it rooted.
thanx.
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If you're not updating via OTA, then you're only updating ROM. Firmware and radio can be updated manually if you are s-off or if there's a firmware package that matches your CID and MID.
Flashing back to a stock ROM and recovery will allow you to accept OTA, then you can reroot and reflash custom ROM.
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[Q] HTC One Devolper Edition- Problem OTA updates

Hello, few days ago I bought an HTC Developer Edition (64GB). Came with Android 4.1.2 and came Unroot. So, because I need to use Titanium Backup I root it and I installed Clockworkmod recovery 6.0.4.4 and then Superuser to root it. The problem is that now I cant make OTA updates (errors when try to update), so my questions are: how can I make OTA updates without errors? Need to install a Stock Recovery again? Where I can find it?
Thanks in advanced!
Flashhh! said:
Hello, few days ago I bought an HTC Developer Edition (64GB). Came with Android 4.1.2 and came Unroot. So, because I need to use Titanium Backup I root it and I installed Clockworkmod recovery 6.0.4.4 and then Superuser to root it. The problem is that now I cant make OTA updates (errors when try to update), so my questions are: how can I make OTA updates without errors? Need to install a Stock Recovery again? Where I can find it?
Thanks in advanced!
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You need the stock rom without root and the recovery stock for your version main.
After you can apply the OTA
But if you have the Dev Edition, this ruu can help you
Guich said:
You need the stock rom without root and the recovery stock for your version main.
After you can apply the OTA
But if you have the Dev Edition, this ruu can help you
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Thanks for your answer, This ruu have the recovery stock included? Is there any other way to update my Dev Edition without changing my room?(I only change the recovery to root my pone)...
Flashhh! said:
Thanks for your answer, This ruu have the recovery stock included? Is there any other way to update my Dev Edition without changing my room?(I only change the recovery to root my pone)...
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This ruu will erase all data (also the sd) from your phone and it will upgrade your phone as stock, with stock rom, recovery, firmware etc.

A question about upgrading stock rom on a rooted phone.

Hi, If I have a rooted phone, how do I update the rom? I have the stock rom. I guess you have to download the update and install it like you would any rom, but would this format my phone?
Astralogic said:
Hi, If I have a rooted phone, how do I update the rom? I have the stock rom. I guess you have to download the update and install it like you would any rom, but would this format my phone?
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If you have a rooted stock rom, you will be able to receive update notifications from Sony and you can update using the offical methods.
However, the update will install the new stock rom without root, as this is not supported by the manufacturer.
There are some tricks to maintain root during an update, but there is no guarantee it will work.
(search xda forums)
FYI, for the current 4.3 stock release for V and T, there is a "one-click" root method.
Check this .
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arturiu said:
If you have a rooted stock rom, you will be able to receive update notifications from Sony and you can update using the offical methods.
However, the update will install the new stock rom without root, as this is not supported by the manufacturer.
There are some tricks to maintain root during an update, but there is no guarantee it will work.
(search xda forums)
FYI, for the current 4.3 stock release for V and T, there is a "one-click" root method.
Check this .
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I can't update whilst rooted, the update fails to install. I would need to unroot before updating via the official method.
Astralogic said:
I can't update whilst rooted, the update fails to install. I would need to unroot before updating via the official method.
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SuperSU has an option to remove root from your rom.
You can try that and see if the rom update works.
updating rooted phone
Astralogic said:
I can't update whilst rooted, the update fails to install. I would need to unroot before updating via the official method.
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get any required stock ftf files from xda link and flash that on flash tool to your rooted phone
there must be no problem.try

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