Hi!
I bought a OTG cable from China for some time ago. Quickly I discovered that the Note did not support NTFS file system...
Yesterday I updated to ICS and also rooted the phone. I then found some apps on the market that said they could mount NTFS devices, I tried many apps but it still did not work. All the forum posts says that I have to flash the kernel to get it to work...
Is there some way to get NTFS support and be able to read NTFS hard drives without flashing the kernel?
Thanks
AndreZ_SWE said:
Hi!
I bought a OTG cable from China for some time ago. Quickly I discovered that the Note did not support NTFS file system...
Yesterday I updated to ICS and also rooted the phone. I then found some apps on the market that said they could mount NTFS devices, I tried many apps but it still did not work. All the forum posts says that I have to flash the kernel to get it to work...
Is there some way to get NTFS support and be able to read NTFS hard drives without flashing the kernel?
Thanks
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It does work. I could read NTFS-USB via OTG in RocketRom v6, but after flashing to v7 I have problems with it.
Hello, if you have a ROM and are going to support OTG, and NTFS, check out this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1724078
I was getting extremely frustrating when nothing that I tried worked to get my external NTFS hard drive mounted read-write. It would only mount read-only. I even tried the only rom I found that said it supported OTG, and ntfs, but that too only let me mount r/o. I even tried Stickmount from google play. And another rom there too for good measure, but none of it worked.
So I stumbled upon this, and in less than a minute, I solved the problem I was trying to fix for hours today.
It would be great if devs could integrate this into their roms so people wouldn't have to mess with it, but whatever.
Also if you aren't a dev and you just want to plug in your NTFS drive and be able to read AND write, check out the app he wrote: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1588940
You won't regret it!
I recently bought an OTG chord.
It works fine with all devices on FAT32.
I have a seagate HDD (500 GB) which is in NTFS format.
The problem is,
1. I took a pendrive that worked well (on FAT32).
2. Then i formatted as NTFS.
3. Now it didnt mount.
4. I have root so I used "StickMount" app on playstore to force mount NTFS formated USB.
5. Now the pendrive mounted easily(even with NTFS format)
BUT my hard Drive still fails to mount!!
infact, a flickering beeping noise can be heard from the HDD (The HDD works fine on my PC)
So the question is why is that so??
Is it something like, HTC ONE OTG cannot support 500 GB??
Or flashing a kernel with ALL OTGs COMPATIBILITY will do the trick??
Has anybody successfully mounted 500 GB HDD??
prunzzz said:
I recently bought an OTG chord.
It works fine with all devices on FAT32.
I have a seagate HDD (500 GB) which is in NTFS format.
The problem is,
1. I took a pendrive that worked well (on FAT32).
2. Then i formatted as NTFS.
3. Now it didnt mount.
4. I have root so I used "StickMount" app on playstore to force mount NTFS formated USB.
5. Now the pendrive mounted easily(even with NTFS format)
BUT my hard Drive still fails to mount!!
infact, a flickering beeping noise can be heard from the HDD (The HDD works fine on my PC)
So the question is why is that so??
Is it something like, HTC ONE OTG cannot support 500 GB??
Or flashing a kernel with ALL OTGs COMPATIBILITY will do the trick??
Has anybody successfully mounted 500 GB HDD??
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If its only a usb powered drive the HO wont be giving enough power to the hdd hence the beeping noise from the drive, you could try a mains powered drive to see if that works.
bradmax57 said:
If its only a usb powered drive the HO wont be giving enough power to the hdd hence the beeping noise from the drive, you could try a mains powered drive to see if that works.
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Ok
I will try and get back
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NTFS is not natively supported. However there is a root app that allows r/rw of NTFS partitions
ArmedandDangerous said:
NTFS is not natively supported. However there is a root app that allows r/rw of NTFS partitions
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So that means, what bradmax57 said is correct
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So that means, what bradmax57 said is correct
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It's not just about power, NTFS is just not supported in stock Sense 5 regardless if the USB stick uses 0 power
ArmedandDangerous said:
It's not just about power, NTFS is just not supported in stock Sense 5 regardless if the USB stick uses 0 power
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Even not with StickMount app???
then in that case anyway to connect HDD to phone via OTG??
StickMount requires root Like I said, only rooted apps can currently r/rw on NTFS drives for HTC One.
ArmedandDangerous said:
StickMount requires root Like I said, only rooted apps can currently r/rw on NTFS drives for HTC One.
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check OP
I do have root
NTFS pendrive does work
Hi
I'm planning on getting a G 2014, but I want to know about NTFS support. Is it out of the box? (in stock KitKat and/or Lollipop). I looked around and didn't find much on the 2014 model. On the 2013 some said it worked, for others didn't. This is essential to me, as I have several 3TB HDDs
Of course, all are self powered in a dock. The are 3.5" anyways, is not possible to power those through USB.
And finally, do Y OTG cables work? The ones that let you charge the phone while using the OTG functionality. Like this
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Please don't buy moto g 2014
I don't know anything about NTFS support.. But the mobile sucks in all
Memory management bug is the reason
Don't buy it
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No ntfs is not supported. You need custom kernel for this. And yes otg works fine. I have tested usb stick, mouse and keyboard
My buffalo 3.0 1TB HDD is working perfectly on my xt1068,just you need to install total commander and a USB plugin and it even works on non rooted devices.Google total commander and here's the link for USB plugin https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.paragon.tcplugins_ntfs_ro
This thread about a statically compiled ntfs-3g binary for Android may be of interest. Chainfire's Stickmount can also use ntfs-3g, if it is present.
AFAIK, those Y-splitters don't allow you to charge any device whilst it is in host mode. A powered hub with a dedicated upstream connector might be a better option.
I see...
Isn't there an app to install and be done? (aside from rooting first). I wouldn't mind even if it was a paid one. I understand very little of custom kernels and modding. Would the USB OGT Helper work?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.shajul.usbotg
Sakura90 said:
I see...
Isn't there an app to install and be done? (aside from rooting first). I wouldn't mind even if it was a paid one. I understand very little of custom kernels and modding. Would the USB OGT Helper work?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.shajul.usbotg
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If you want write support for NTFS -- or only read support, for that matter -- the easiest method is to use an app that support's either Paragon's proprietory solution, as described above, or ntfs-3g. Assuming Stickmount works with the Moto G, getting it all up and running is simply case a dropping the binaries linked on Stickmount's description on Google Play into the root directory of your SD card and installing the app. Installing both binaries provides exFAT support too, which is handy.
That USB OTG Helper would not work for NTFS because it relies upon NTFS support being enabled in the kernel, which it isn't on the stock Moto G kernel. You need a FUSE based solution -- i.e. ntfs-3g, or Paragon's alternative.
Stickmount looks great. Drop the binaries, install and go. Is someone willing to try it with any NTFS or exFAT drive? Does unmounting the OTG unmount the SD card also? My G won't come until a couple of weeks if I order it now
Btw, should Stickmount also work for the microSD if I use an NTFS one?
Thanks for the replies
Sakura90 said:
Stickmount looks great. Drop the binaries, install and go. Is someone willing to try it with any NTFS or exFAT drive? Does unmounting the OTG unmount the SD card also? My G won't come until a couple of weeks if I order it now
Btw, should Stickmount also work for the microSD if I use an NTFS one?
Thanks for the replies
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I'd test it now, but I don't have time to backup and restore after unlocking the bootloader. I need my phone for work during the week. Why Motorola have to force a format of /data after unlocking the bootloader, I don't know. Maybe it's a deterrent of sorts. Most of my media is stored on EXT4 formatted media, anyway...
Stickmount likely ignores the SD card. It might be possible to mess around with config files to mount an ntfs formatted sd with ntfs-3g, but I wouldn't recommend it, as ntfs will be slower than most other filesystems. Interestingly, the Moto G has an f2fs formatted /data partition, which is very suitable for SDHC and could probably be enabled for the actual SD card without too much hassle, but I digress....
rufflove said:
I'd test it now, but I don't have time to backup and restore after unlocking the bootloader. I need my phone for work during the week. Why Motorola have to force a format of /data after unlocking the bootloader, I don't know. Maybe it's a deterrent of sorts. Most of my media is stored on EXT4 formatted media, anyway...
Stickmount likely ignores the SD card. It might be possible to mess around with config files to mount an ntfs formatted sd with ntfs-3g, but I wouldn't recommend it, as ntfs will be slower than most other filesystems. Interestingly, the Moto G has an f2fs formatted /data partition, which is very suitable for SDHC and could probably be enabled for the actual SD card without too much hassle, but I digress....
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I had dramas with getting my previous SD card to work (probably just a dud in the end, though it was also damn slow..), though I did at one stage get an NTFS-formatted SD card to mount, but the card corrupted itself in the process.
I'm curious to see if we may see F2FS support for the Moto G 2014, it's pretty handy on other devices, and I'm sure if we were able to have F2FS formatted SD cards, that would make life far nicer in general. Would need a custom kernel that supports it fully though, AFAIK the current offerings don't have too much going, though I haven't tried it yet.
As for the OP's question, I was able to connect my NTFS USB3 HDD up to my Moto G 2014 without much hassle, obviously there's little by way of solutions that don't require root access though, but such is the nature of the beast when the system doesn't support mounting anything outside of FAT32 out of the box. Have used Paragon and Stickmount with reasonable success, but I do feel you when it comes to wanting to at least have something else power the drive first.
Traediras said:
I'm curious to see if we may see F2FS support for the Moto G 2014, it's pretty handy on other devices, and I'm sure if we were able to have F2FS formatted SD cards, that would make life far nicer in general. Would need a custom kernel that supports it fully though, AFAIK the current offerings don't have too much going, though I haven't tried it yet.
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F2FS has already been backported to 3.4 by Motorola. It is present in the stock kernel; the F2FS formatted data partition on the Moto G/X doesn't just mount itself by magic! I doubt F2FS would offer much, if any, performance benefits over FAT32, but it does however support file sizes over 4GB and preserves file permissions. I presumed these are the reasons that Sakura would choose an NTFS formatted SD over a FAT32 formatted one. Whether vold hacks or just plain fstab edits would be required, I don't know.
I just discovered the commits that extend vold filesystem support to F2FS in the Cyanogenmod repos. So the best route to NTFS/exFAT/F2FS formatted SD cards would clearly be a solid Cyanogenmod release for this device.
Traediras said:
As for the OP's question, I was able to connect my NTFS USB3 HDD up to my Moto G 2014 without much hassle, obviously there's little by way of solutions that don't require root access though, but such is the nature of the beast when the system doesn't support mounting anything outside of FAT32 out of the box. Have used Paragon and Stickmount with reasonable success, but I do feel you when it comes to wanting to at least have something else power the drive first.
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So Stickmount does work? Great. I have to root anyway, since the the Moto G has no Japanese UI it will always show Chinese characters, I have to manually edit the fallback_fonts.xml of the system to give Japanese ones priority.
Back to filesystems... so it's *only* FAT? No ext either? Even being a Linux file system and all? Damn. I searched a little and found an ext driver for Windows. Works nice and now I happily have an ext2 flash drive working seamlessly in Win 7.
F2FS looks nice, but like its Wiki entry says "Planned: Windows driver supporting F2FS".
And yes, I need something that has at least a 16 GB file limit (ext2 has it even when using 1 KB clusters).
P.S.: It's all very funny when you see that FAT32 was introduced in 1996 and ext2 in January 1993, yet ext2 appears to be superior in every way. Well, NTFS is from 1993 too. Older than I thought. Why are we stuck with the worst FS of all? Almost 2015, 128GB on something as tiny as a microSD card and 4GB maximum file size
Sakura90 said:
P.S.: It's all very funny when you see that FAT32 was introduced in 1996 and ext2 in January 1993, yet ext2 appears to be superior in every way. Well, NTFS is from 1993 too. Older than I thought. Why are we stuck with the worst FS of all? Almost 2015, 128GB on something as tiny as a microSD card and 4GB maximum file size
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Totally! It's lame that Google don't directly provide support for EXT2/3/4 filesystems on removable media. It's worth noting that the Moto G only supports SDHC up to 32GB, according to the spec sheets. I had another look at USB OTG Helper and it does now support ntfs-3g too. Binaries are available on the homepage and must be installed on the system partition. Both it and Stickmount support EXT2/3/4, of course.
The solution to lack of filesystem support and antiquated native filesystems is to ditch Windows!
Been googling this for the last couple days, trying various things, not having luck yet. I want one flash drive for my large media and writeable for TWRP backups.
I'm running CM12 nightlies and the latest TWRP, have installed Stickmount. I have a 256GB USB flash drive and an OTG cable, and want to use the flash drive to play music and videos, as well as write nandroid backups in TWRP. I can read off the drive (currently formatted NTFS, and has my 130GB+ music collection on it, plus 50GB of videos so far).
The rub is I have videos that are larger than 4GB, so I think I need either NTFS or exFAT as my file system on the flash drive... but I haven't figured out how to have TWRP and ES File Explorer write to the drive.
What are others doing? Really would prefer to avoid having an NTFS/exFAT drive for media, and a second FAT32 drive for TWRP backups.
NTFS is Microsoft proprietary. Although some devs and OEM implement it in kernels and ROMs, I don't think you'll get it in recovery.
rootSU said:
NTFS is Microsoft proprietary. Although some devs and OEM implement it in kernels and ROMs, I don't think you'll get it in recovery.
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I totally get it. So, what filesystem could I use for both TWRP and Lollipop that can support files larger than 4GB?
oshea85 said:
I totally get it. So, what filesystem could I use for both TWRP and Lollipop that can support files larger than 4GB?
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Not sure... Does it support ext4
Otg with NTFS is possible if ntfs-3g driver is included in the twrp build