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Hi folks..
I've been having some problems with my 1 yr plus Tytn II...
Intermittently it will have no network issue. Once I go Comms Panel and OFF and ON the phone, network is fine.
But this will happen a few times, no matter if I'm outside the house or at home and
it will happen even if I leave it alone.
Also at times after a soft reset, it will says no SIM card detected.
I've tried to clean the SIM card with those rubber eraser, inserting a piece of paper on the back side of the SIM card, to no avail.
If I'm lucky it detects the SIM card.
I've tried using my sister's spare SIM card, same problems.
Any1 encountered before?
If repaired, would it cost a bomb? My warranty already over.
Or is it time for me to replace the tytn? *sigh*
I did search for no network, but think mostly it's the 3G networks having problems in some parts of the world.
Mine will intermittently have no network in 3G or not.
Thanks in advance for any inputs.
Check for dust/dirt around the contact area of the SIM and the slot contacts. Press lightly on the silver metal that crosses over the SIM slot to insure it is tight enough to insure good contact with the card.
Hope that helps.
Hi there...
yup I've cleaned and blown the sim card area.
also place a piece of paper behind the sim card.
oriki said:
Hi there...
yup I've cleaned and blown the sim card area.
also place a piece of paper behind the sim card.
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erm why would you place a piece of paper behind the SIM card and why would you clean it with a eraser(should use a cotton rag or your shirt[NOT a washcloth they can scratch it]) by now the SIM shouldn't work in any phone and paper would stop the contact between the SIM and the SIM slot
i had the same problem some time ago...
the way i fixed it was with tape on the back of the sim card..
i know you tried paper but how much paper?
when i first put tape i would put a layer.. then nothing ... then another layer..
then nothing..
i finally got to the point where i almost broke the litle metal thing that hold the sim card in place.. but it finally worked..
i guess just hard presure fixed my phone not reading my sim..
jus my 2 cents
oriki said:
Hi there...
yup I've cleaned and blown the sim card area.
also place a piece of paper behind the sim card.
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I hope you put the paper between the medal strip and the SIM, not under the SIM where the contacts are. If the SIM does not feel snug in the slot, remove the SIM and press down on the matal strip just a bit to tighten it. Also look carefully to see that the SIM is inserted correctly. The cut off corner does not go in first. Look carefully and you will find an illustration on the outside of the cover.
Hope that helps.
souskei said:
when i first put tape i would put a layer.. then nothing ... then another layer..
then nothing..
i finally got to the point where i almost broke the litle metal thing that hold the sim card in place.. but it finally worked..
i guess just hard presure fixed my phone not reading my sim..
jus my 2 cents
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That's good value for money advice! There are posts here that mention about issues with sim connection on Tilt Specific versions of the Kaiser (although there's nothing in the Tilt specific wiki about it). As long as the paper/tape is on the back (non-contact) side and is used to push the sim closer to the contacts, it should help. If there's any chance the o/p can still return it under warranty, then try and do so. Warranties aren't hard and fast and if something fails very close to the end of the warranty period, many companies will still consider repairing it, especially if it's a 'known issue' that's cropped up. If the o/p spends some time doing a seach, I'm sure more details will come up. From what I recall reading, Kaisers other than the Tilt aren't affected and I've certainly had no such problems with my HTC branded device.
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That's good value for money advice! There are posts here that mention about issues with sim connection on Tilt Specific versions of the Kaiser (although there's nothing in the Tilt specific wiki about it). As long as the paper/tape is on the back (non-contact) side and is used to push the sim closer to the contacts, it should help. If there's any chance the o/p can still return it under warranty, then try and do so. Warranties aren't hard and fast and if something fails very close to the end of the warranty period, many companies will still consider repairing it, especially if it's a 'known issue' that's cropped up. If the o/p spends some time doing a seach, I'm sure more details will come up. From what I recall reading, Kaisers other than the Tilt aren't affected and I've certainly had no such problems with my HTC branded device.
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yup, I did a search and mostly was recommended to use the paper thingy.
will probably call up the HTC service centre and ask how much it would cost to repair it.
I had to lose my tytn haha. now having withdrawal symptoms using a simple nokia hp.
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I hope you put the paper between the medal strip and the SIM, not under the SIM where the contacts are. If the SIM does not feel snug in the slot, remove the SIM and press down on the matal strip just a bit to tighten it. Also look carefully to see that the SIM is inserted correctly. The cut off corner does not go in first. Look carefully and you will find an illustration on the outside of the cover.
Hope that helps.
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yup... the SIM card orientation is correct and it's tight hehe
souskei said:
i had the same problem some time ago...
the way i fixed it was with tape on the back of the sim card..
i know you tried paper but how much paper?
when i first put tape i would put a layer.. then nothing ... then another layer..
then nothing..
i finally got to the point where i almost broke the litle metal thing that hold the sim card in place.. but it finally worked..
i guess just hard presure fixed my phone not reading my sim..
jus my 2 cents
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will try that... I did put till it was very tight to remove the paper and SIM card..
kaiserII101 said:
erm why would you place a piece of paper behind the SIM card and why would you clean it with a eraser(should use a cotton rag or your shirt[NOT a washcloth they can scratch it]) by now the SIM shouldn't work in any phone and paper would stop the contact between the SIM and the SIM slot
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I figured it might be the SIM contact problem, hence the paper on the sim card.
the sim card is working well with my spare nokia hp though.
thanks all for the tips & infos!
Thank you all very much. This just happened to me and I was able to resolve with the paper behind the sim card. A real life saver since my tilt is now 14 mos old and out of warranty.
I totally forgot abt this thread...
mine was repaired for SGD 150, including the diagnostic fee since it's out of warranty...
No Sim card detected
oriki said:
I totally forgot abt this thread...
mine was repaired for SGD 150, including the diagnostic fee since it's out of warranty...
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I had the same issue with an 18 month Tilt. HTC quote was $124 US as diagnostic fee and over $300 if the board needed replacement. The shim to the back of the card was not working. Bought a new HTC brand SIM card reader from ebay for $24 US including S&H. All is well.
was it easy to DIY?
and I tot repairs here in singapore are expensive hehe
Some rubber erasers contain a small amount of ground pumice, for the sole purpose of scratching the top layer of paper when you use it to correct a mistake (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eraser#Types).. Using a rag or shirt alone will not remove any oxidation from the surface of the contacts, although if they are gold-plated they should be resistant to oxidizing anyway..
I just had the same problem today with my SIM card. So far, paper hasn't helped. (I stuck 3 layers of white adhesive binder label on the back of the SIM, and trimmed around it w/scissors) -- still no luck.
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erm why would you place a piece of paper behind the SIM card and why would you clean it with a eraser(should use a cotton rag or your shirt[NOT a washcloth they can scratch it]) by now the SIM shouldn't work in any phone and paper would stop the contact between the SIM and the SIM slot
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weasel5i2 said:
Using a rag or shirt alone will not remove any oxidation from the surface of the contacts, although if they are gold-plated they should be resistant to oxidizing anyway..
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Exactly so I think rather than using a potentially abrasive eraser, it'd be best to use a specialist contact cleaner (designed just for such things) applied to a cotton bud and rubbed against the sim holder contacts and then the sim itself. It seems to me that as long as the contacting surface is spotlessly clean then packing the SIM closer to the contacts with pieces of paper behind it, shouldn't be necessary (even though it may help). A small aerosol can of contact cleaner is cheap enough and it can also be used for battery contact cleaning every few months (something it pays to do with a TyTN II in my experience).
Touch wood, my phone is still going strong as far as the sim connectivity is concerned but then its probably only ever endured 20 or so sim removals and refitments in its whole existance - maybe those experiencing problems are predominantly frequent sim removers or changers?
The Fix- its the simm cover microswitch
I may be that the reason many are getting different results, is that your tackling the wrong area of the ph as the problem. I just fixed my TYTN ll using this solution by Tilt Fanatic -Fix for No Sim Detection Problem!-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11199595#post11199595
He figured out that its source is the simm cover latch and the micoswitch that it catches on underneath. Over time this ability to catch onto microswitch, degrades so "the problem is that the outside switch is not fully catching the inside one, which is why the sim isn't being detected". Thus for many people the constant insert and closing of the simm cover inadvertantly fixes the problem. Not the deoxidizing or cleaning contacts with a rubber etc. Try it. Use something to press the inner mico switch hard up while turning on the phone. It was an instant fix for my ph, showing it was the correct source of the problem of "no simm card present". Thanks to Tilt Fanatic correctly identifying it.
So as the title states, my nook literally ate my micro Sd card. (It said om nom nom while it happened too)
I was sliding it in as always and it disappeared up and over the slot all the way into the back cover somewhere.
I wasn't forcing it or applying any more pressure than you normally would getting it to "click" into place.
I can hear it rattling around in there, so I'm sure its in there.
I went to the store and they said they'd never heard of any sort of problem like this. The guy even called BN tech support and they had no idea.
Anyways... I searched around and couldn't find any way of taking the back cover off. If anyone could point me in the right direction to doing this I would appreciate it.
Look for the nook color teardown...first there are two torx screws under the SD card cover...I think the back just prys of after. Double check on the teardown page first.
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NOOKcolor Teardown
I can't post links yet, but zdnet.com has a nook color teardown with pictures and descriptions. Easy to search for.
maybe if u would charge it, the poor nook wouldnt have to eat other parts of its self!!!!
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I can't post links yet, but zdnet.com has a nook color teardown with pictures and descriptions. Easy to search for.
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Thanks, found it. Had never heard of zdnet before.
I'll give it a try tomorrow - I want my class10 card back
It was a pretty funny how the Nook salesman responded when I brought it into the store.
He was like WTF i can hear it rattling around inside it!
Same thing happened to me, removed the back cover and retrieved it. The two philips head screws under the flap are covered with little decals. Remove the screws, and gently pry the rear cover off to get your sd back. This is what solved the decision whether to root or not since I probably voided the warrantee. Didn't like the idea of frequently changing the SD.
Jim
It's TORX, not Phillips!
jmgazer said:
Same thing happened to me, removed the back cover and retrieved it. The two philips head screws under the flap are covered with little decals. Remove the screws, and gently pry the rear cover off to get your sd back. This is what solved the decision whether to root or not since I probably voided the warrantee. Didn't like the idea of frequently changing the SD.
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Just a quick warning before you strip out those screw heads, those are TORX size T5 screws, not Phillips.
Mine were philips head, most of the chassis screws were torx.
Jim
Sorry about that, they are torx screws
Perfect time to find this post. Seems I lost two cards in there. Woke up today thinking "I could have sworn I put the card back in there last night!" Luckily I had a backup card from another phone I had. So I popped that in and ran off to work. Came home and went to flash it and hmmm, no card. Time to grab a torx!
What are you doing that the card slips in the wrong area? I have not come close to doing that. I don't think. If you could reconstruct the "crime" it may be a valuable lesson for us all!
Cheers,
kev
glad i stumbled across this, so when i do the same i don't tear the house apart looking for my sd.
I ran into the same thing last night, sorta. I went to eject my movie-filled SD card to change the content and it wouldn't push-eject. I'd been using it with no problem, except when I went to remove it. Seems like whatever mechanism keeps the card in place must have gone away? Luckily it hadn't gone in all the way and I was able to pry it out with my fingernail.
Did a B&N tech chat this morning and they are sending me a replacement. Tech at first told me that warranty was expired (got my NC for Christmas!?) but when I reminded him that there is supposed to be a 1-year hardware warranty, he processed the replacement.
I think that there is a lesson in this. We are pushing the Nook to it's limits -- a good thing. In the process of doing so we're probably also pushing the secure digital port past its design limits -- which weren't terribly encouraging to start with. I suspect that whoever designed the thing figured that a SD card would get shoved in there maybe once -- or even not at all.
Probably ought to be a sticky somewhere that cautions about carefully and delicately inserting and extracting the thing. I also read of someone else whose card would no longer lock in place -- just kept popping out.
Just recently I started hearing the back cover around where the sim card is begin to rattle when the phone vibrates. Its extremely loud
Has anyone else had this problem? Suggestions on how to fix it?
Cheers
I put a folded up paper towel under the back cover haha it works
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Yeah I'm not sure what I'm going to do... I really is pissing me off to be honest!
Any other thoughts?!
I have yet to find where the rattle is coming from...
If hold the case tight around the top part of the screen, it wont make the rattle either. I'm thinking about taking the phone in and RMA'ing it.
I've tried to put a paper towel behind the battery cover as well as a business card lol
Anyone else have any suggestions?
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Anyone else have any suggestions?
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maybe get a tiny precision screwdriver and tighten all the little screws on the phone. I think there are some under the battery cover. here's the threa that will show where they are -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=740022
Check the little door that covers the usb port. Check it in the open and closed position.
I dig up an old post about the rattle and another user suggested that I try and remove the SD card and at the time when I tried it, it worked which I thought was odd because I had already checked that once before.
Regardless, the noise came back and AT&T said they will replace the phone but I'm too lazy to drive to the store so I think I'm going to try and tighten everything first... hopefully if all fails it wont void the warranty
I know, I did something really stupid. I put an MicroSD card in the slot where the Sim Card is supposed to go and now it's stuck. I can't see it.. so I have no idea what to do.
Please help, I have no idea how to get it out.
Can you see it at all? I believe the sd card bay has enough clearence so that a microsd could get lodged inside the body of the device itself. There's nothing besides the tray itself to stop something like that. (which is kinda crazy if something exactly like this happens)
Nope I cannot see it at all :\
I'm not concerned about the sD card itself, I'm just worried that it'll mess up the functionality of the tablet.
The only real risk is that the pins on it might short something out, or a very remote chance it might cause one of the connectors to detach.
You could try and keep shaking it until it falls out or carefully dissassemble it and get your card. I'd personally try the former, the open part of the tray is the one nearest the display, so hold it display faceing down and bay facing down and hope for the best.
I have tried shaking it out for the past couple of minutes with no results.
There is no rattling sound however, so is that a good thing?
There are no visible screws of any sort for me to take it apart, so if you know of a a way that I can do so, I'd greatly appreciate it if you would share it with me.
If it's not rattleing then it might be jammed up against something, as far as damaging the internals that's a good thing. As long as you dont let it rattle around inside it, it shouldnt be a huge issue.
I made a guide on dissassembling it, it's around here somewhere. But tl;dr the first step is held together by glue and it's a huge hassle to dissassemble and reassemble unless you dont care about casuing cosmetic damage.
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If it's not rattleing then it might be jammed up against something, as far as damaging the internals that's a good thing. As long as you dont let it rattle around inside it, it shouldnt be a huge issue.
I made a guide on dissassembling it, it's around here somewhere. But tl;dr the first step is held together by glue and it's a huge hassle to dissassemble and reassemble unless you dont care about casuing cosmetic damage.
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If it's held together by glue, I doubt I will have the patience to reassemble it xD
Are there any other options that you know of that I can try?
But nonetheless, thank you for helping
Mail it to me, I could use a 2nd S7
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Mail it to me, I could use a 2nd S7
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Haha, definitely not an option xD
I've tried everything I could and the thing still won't come out. Might just have to try a mini vacuum cleaner..
I got an SD card stuck exactly like what happened to you only difference is I got it stuck in my phone I got a bobby pin nd took it out like that but I was careful
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xtc714 said:
I got an SD card stuck exactly like what happened to you only difference is I got it stuck in my phone I got a bobby pin nd took it out like that but I was careful
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How exactly did you manage to get it out? I've bent a paper clip out so that it was long enough for me to stick it in there and I tried to press it down and slide it out with no results - I don't even know if I was actually touching the card or not :\
If you could provide some details on how you were able to get it to pop out, that'd be great.
Thanks
Had the phone for nearly two weeks.. Noticed the flap seems to open on its own this in turn taking away the "waterproof" abilities of the device.
Spoke to O2 UK and literally straight away the guy said they will be exchanging it.
I now have a courier coming tomorrow to swap the phones out so hopefully I don't get this issue again..
Can't fault the service from O2 here though they don't mess about!
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That's disappointing...
I'm planning on getting the Z3 Compact through a friend going to America which frankly means that if I have any problems like these I won't be able to use the warranty and replace the device. Hopefully I won't have any problems.
One thing that can prevent problems with the USB flap is simply not using it, but rather charging via the magnetic port with a dock/cable/adapter.
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That's disappointing...
I'm planning on getting the Z3 Compact through a friend going to America which frankly means that if I have any problems like these I won't be able to use the warranty and replace the device. Hopefully I won't have any problems.
One thing that can prevent problems with the USB flap is simply not using it, but rather charging via the magnetic port with a dock/cable/adapter.
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Shouldn't have to avoid using any part of the phone.. If it's not going to work properly I don't want it, no matter what it is I have bought..
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pricey2009 said:
Shouldn't have to avoid using any part of the phone.. If it's not going to work properly I don't want it, no matter what it is I have bought..
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Yes that's fair enough. It's a shame if the USB flap really does have design issues or maybe it's just a rarer issue that unfortunately happened to you.
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Yes that's fair enough. It's a shame if the USB flap really does have design issues or maybe it's just a rarer issue that unfortunately happened to you.
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Apparently it's not so rare, alot of people would seem to getting similar issues if you look on the Sony mobile forums..
I would advise everyone to check their units and make sure both flaps close properly..
If not your phone will not be waterproof and hence may die if you take it for a swim like they do on the adverts...
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At the end of the day, the flaps are made of plastic which can and will bend if you don't take care when removing or make sure its not getting caught in anything while its off.
I'm not saying this is the case with everyone, but likely for most...
I'm in exactly the same boat. Bought the black version from Clove, arrived just under 2 weeks ago. For the last few days, I noticed the flap was loose when taking it out of my pocket, thought it was becoming loose while walking around. Closed the flap and left it on the table, few minutes later, it was loose again, so definitely a hardware problem. Gave the flap a clear with an earbud but no cigar. Nano SIM cover sits nice and tight
Really disappointed as I really like the phone and apart from this issue, it lives up to my expectations for both the hardware and software. Gonna be a pain going back to my Nexus 4 which I wiped clean in the expectation I'd be selling it soon >.<
Is it a case of replacing the flap or is there a bigger problem? Anyone had any experience with Clove returns? Will they ship out a new one before I return the faulty one - would make life easier as I can use the Sony PC Companion app to transfer all my stuff to the new one straight away
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I'm in exactly the same boat. Bought the black version from Clove, arrived just under 2 weeks ago. For the last few days, I noticed the flap was loose when taking it out of my pocket, thought it was becoming loose while walking around. Closed the flap and left it on the table, few minutes later, it was loose again, so definitely a hardware problem. Gave the flap a clear with an earbud but no cigar. Nano SIM cover sits nice and tight
Really disappointed as I really like the phone and apart from this issue, it lives up to my expectations for both the hardware and software. Gonna be a pain going back to my Nexus 4 which I wiped clean in the expectation I'd be selling it soon >.<
Is it a case of replacing the flap or is there a bigger problem? Anyone had any experience with Clove returns? Will they ship out a new one before I return the faulty one - would make life easier as I can use the Sony PC Companion app to transfer all my stuff to the new one straight away
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Its obviously a known issue or they wouldn't exchange it so fast in my case..
As soon as I told them the issue, the first response was "you will have it exchanged on your doorstep Monday morning"
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Vodafone Germany exchanged mine within a week (door to door) because of that problem.
Seems to be at least a whole production batch with bad tolerance...
Well got my replacement today and the flap on this unit closes with a "click"
So, definitely check your device does this or else it is not waterproof and needs replacing like the one I had before..
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Clove have agreed to do an exchange, apparently they've had others return it for the same problem. Hoping the next one is fine
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Clove have agreed to do an exchange, apparently they've had others return it for the same problem. Hoping the next one is fine
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How long ago did you buy it?
OT: I really don't understand why Sony isn't providing magnetic cable in their original packages. My guess is that there will be a lot of people who will not be familiar with magnetic charging option and damage their flops during opening for charging.
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OT: I really don't understand why Sony isn't providing magnetic cable in their original packages. My guess is that there will be a lot of people who will not be familiar with magnetic charging option and damage their flops during opening for charging.
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There are no sony produced cables, only magnetic charging docks.. All the cables are third party only
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How did the Z1/Z2 waterproof covers hold up over time? I would assume anything made of rubbery plastic is gonna stretch and deform slightly over time with repeated opening/closing and exposure to the elements, so I'm curious how long these phones actually stay waterproof.
Just to join the club, have the same issue with my z3c on usb port side, sim card cover is closed as it should be. I already changed my phone once because of display issue and on that one didn't noticed that covers problem. So now I have another irritating issue. Just to inform those who claim that it is bad handling cause, I don't even use this cover cause from the fisrst day of use i had the magnetic charger just because of that I don't have to open this cover and risk to damage it.
So now I have damaged covere which was opened only once, when I inserted my sd card .
New replacement flaps on eBay selling for £5
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Have you tried it?
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I got my Z3c from Mediamarkt and found out the flap of the SIM-card wasn't closing either. If you would press it, it would stay in place for a small minute and hops open. I decided to return it and ask for a new one, because I bought the phone because of the waterproofing. I picked up a new one in the store and luckily the flaps were OK. Sony could easily fix this problem by changing the flaps, the rubber seems a tiny bit too thick.
Can I remove the rubber from the USB flap and it will still close properly?