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Is this normal? Signal Loss

Hi:
I have a Tilt on AT&T's network. Today I was about an hour away from home, and noticed a complete loss of signal. My other phone, a Motorola Razr V3xx, had 3 bars of signal at the same time. I had this same problem in the same rural area before, and just assumed there was nothing I could do about it.
This time though I decided to turn off 3G on the Tilt (since I know it can sometimes interfere with reception), and still nothing. Then I did a soft reset (still had 3G off), and I finally found a signal, as well as the Roaming icon.
Is this normal behavior? The Razr also has 3G, but apparently must switch over to edge when it is in a non-3G area. Why would my Tilt need to be manually reset in order to find a signal?
Thanks!

Hi:
I'd really appreciate any reply
Even if it's to tell me that this is unheard of behavior. My warranty is about to expire, and need to have my phone replaced before it expires if this is a fault unique to my phone.
Thanks again!

cincy1020 said:
Hi:
I have a Tilt on AT&T's network. Today I was about an hour away from home, and noticed a complete loss of signal. My other phone, a Motorola Razr V3xx, had 3 bars of signal at the same time. I had this same problem in the same rural area before, and just assumed there was nothing I could do about it.
This time though I decided to turn off 3G on the Tilt (since I know it can sometimes interfere with reception), and still nothing. Then I did a soft reset (still had 3G off), and I finally found a signal, as well as the Roaming icon.
Is this normal behavior? The Razr also has 3G, but apparently must switch over to edge when it is in a non-3G area. Why would my Tilt need to be manually reset in order to find a signal?
Thanks!
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I'm not sure why but your phone should have switched automatically. For me, I have my band set to GSM manually.

Are you using usually using 3G with no problem? There's a hardware fault in some devices that will appear about a few months of usage where 3G becomes inoperative. When connected on 3G calls will fail, and one needs to force GSM and reboot to be able to use the phone again. Return to service center needed for repair, mine is there now.

Hi:
Thanks so much for your replies!
I think I probably need a replacement phone, so I guess on Monday I'll call and spend the 15+ hours p) on the phone to AT&T to get a new one, lol.
Kilrah, yes my 3G usually works fine, but apparently when I go into a non 3G area it just loses signal. My phone never really gets great reception anyway, so hopefully the replacement will be an all around improvement.
Thanks again!!

[Q] S III mini network issue

Hi guys,
I own an i8190, baseband : I8190XXALJL and I encounter frequent network outage.
Although the signal strenght indicator shows 3-4 bars, I cannot be called, cannot call and data is not being fetched.
On battery usage app, the network is most of the time "green".
On any other phone around me (blackberries, iphones, SGS II and III), and on the same network the problem does not reproduce.
If I turn the phone to airplane mode, and then back on, I am able to call, send mails so on and so forth.
Does any of you have the same problem ?
If any of you updated to I8190XXALL2, is this problem still persisting ?
Should I send it to the service ?

I'm currently running the ALL2 baseband, but previously had both the ALJL and the ALK6 ones and didn't encounter any such issue...
Before sending it back you could try with a different SIM card, maybe yours is acting up (it sometimes happens, especially with old SIMs).
Seeing how nobody complained of a similar issue though, I don't think that changing your baseband will have an impact, but if you'd like to give it a try you can download original firmwares (that contain the baseband) from here: http://www.sammobile.com/firmware/. In order to install them, just follow the steps in the root thread.

Will do so. I'm going to pit-stop my SIM card @ Vodafone and let you know about it.
It's strange that this happens only deep inside buildings (eg. offices, malls, etc..).
When this happens, usually the data activity indicator disappears OR the S3 mini is using 3G frequencies (not H, not G, but 3G)

Just changed my sim card and the issue still persists...
It's driving me nuts. My feeling is that the S3 mini doesn't lock on a network cell when 2 are available with similar coverage.
Will upgrade to the latest build and let you know about it :banghead:
Sent from my GT-I8190 using Tapatalk 2

And now the handset runs XXALL2 from vodafone uk.
I'm curious if the phone will have that network issue furthermore.
Happy Holidays!!
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bogdangr said:
Hi guys,
I own an i8190, baseband : I8190XXALJL and I encounter frequent network outage.
Although the signal strenght indicator shows 3-4 bars, I cannot be called, cannot call and data is not being fetched.
On battery usage app, the network is most of the time "green".
On any other phone around me (blackberries, iphones, SGS II and III), and on the same network the problem does not reproduce.
If I turn the phone to airplane mode, and then back on, I am able to call, send mails so on and so forth.
Does any of you have the same problem ?
If any of you updated to I8190XXALL2, is this problem still persisting ?
Should I send it to the service ?
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I'm exactly in the same situation . Please let me know if your new firmware solves the problem.
Tks,

ci6i said:
I'm exactly in the same situation . Please let me know if your new firmware solves the problem.
Tks,
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So far there's no difference. Where I live the network coverage is pretty bad, but it doesn't "disconnect in the background".
Only at the office I can test it out for sure or inside massive buildings.
ci6i, go ahead and update; install kies (for drivers only ), get odin3 1.87 and flash it with XALL2 from samfirmware.
Lately I see there is XALL3 available for some asian countries.
I still think that my BlackBerry 9810 is a tank. unfortunately vodafone romania doesn't sync emails two ways via BIS so... :crying: I had to get back to samsungs...

Well, i understand to lose signal if network coverage is bad, but my phone gets "network stuck" in the middle of town. I noticed this few times: at job, the phone stands on the table near me, and i receive sms about missed calls (i have voice calls diverted to voice mail when unreachable). If i try to call or browse the net at this moment, it's impossible until i set airplane mode on then off. All this time, the phone shows full network signal and HSPA data connection.
I'll try to change the firmware after hollidays.

As mentioned above, try to change firmwares (to XXALL2), I've also noticed some network drops when I'm at home (however this is expected in my case), but when I installed this firmware, I noticed some signal gain (full on 2G and +1-2bars on 3G signal).

Hi again.
The same issue even on xall2
Just happened again today in a crowded place.
It goes to "3G" from "H" and then it's gone off the network.
Will try with XALL3 although there is a small improvement concerning "sticking to the network carrier". It seems it'a hard job to get a call when in coverage area...
If still no success, I'll loose my patience with this Sammy...
See ya!
Sent from my GT-I8190 using Tapatalk 2

You get SMS because they use a dedicated network bandwidth for this technology and apparently the S3 mini does not loose connection on this communixation channel.
It appears that S3 mini is dropping voice and data, but not sms and CB (cell broadcast).
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LJL version. No drops. Sometimes when i am on edge of 3G coverage area
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Hi, i also have the problem with vodafone Romania. I can't place calls or use data connection. After reboot everything is ok. I tried to switch to Airplane mode and back, but no results.

Same problem over here
bogdangr said:
Does any of you have the same problem ?
If any of you updated to I8190XXALL2, is this problem still persisting ?
Should I send it to the service ?
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Hi bogdangr,
I have the same problem with my SIII mini. From time to time, after working normally, it loses the H or 3G symbol and shows about two or three signal bars, but if I try to make a call or receive one the operation fails miserably. The airplane mode trick doesn't work for me, and I have to reboot the phone to get it working again.
I've updated to the latest official firmware, but the problem is still there. Have you found a solution for this or anybody has more ideas of things to try?
Thanks you all,
MFC

I'm on VF RO, too.
Crappy phone, what can I say.
If it can't follow a network where there is sufficient coverage...

miguelfc said:
Hi bogdangr,
I have the same problem with my SIII mini. From time to time, after working normally, it loses the H or 3G symbol and shows about two or three signal bars, but if I try to make a call or receive one the operation fails miserably. The airplane mode trick doesn't work for me, and I have to reboot the phone to get it working again.
I've updated to the latest official firmware, but the problem is still there. Have you found a solution for this or anybody has more ideas of things to try?
Thanks you all,
MFC
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Hi Miguel,
The only workaround for this issue (at least for me) is to keep it in GSM mode (no "AUTO mode", no "WCDMA only").
So the crappy phone won't have to switch frequencies and I can get phone calls (I start considering a luck when the phone rings...)
I'm on 4.1.2 now baseband I8190DXALL3 (latest on samfirmware) and still the same.
You just don't want to know how's everything downloading limted to GPRS
BR,
Bogdan

Does anyone know what's that *# code that enables service / engineering mode ?
I want to select on which network frequencies is the phone allowed to work.
I want to disable 3G mode and leave GPRS, EDGE, and HS(D)PA only.
The reason is that when the issue appears, S3 mini switches from "H to 3G" and "G to 3G" and then it's gone;
Although there are moments when it can fetch data with network on 3G coverage without problems...

The code is *#*#info#*#* but it doesn't work .
I don't think it's a good ideea to disable those settings. Maybe it's a temporarily problem and i know Vodafone is testing/launching 4G coverage.
For me, this network issue is happening once in a week. How often do you lose phone signal ?

ci6i said:
The code is *#*#info#*#* but it doesn't work .
I don't think it's a good ideea to disable those settings. Maybe it's a temporarily problem and i know Vodafone is testing/launching 4G coverage.
For me, this network issue is happening once in a week. How often do you lose phone signal ?
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I found out the service code but the RF setup is not "sufforted".
Vodafone has implemeted already 4G in selected areas but it's not about that. On blackberry, iphone and nokia this is not happening.
As a frequency... 3-5 times a day while I'm at the office.
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I'm using it with Orange Spain. I will try using the phone this weekend with another operator to find out if the problem is operator related.

[Q] Poor signal (one bar)

hello, I have a new t mobile htc one I got as gift (never opened). My old phone was an unlocked samsung galaxy nexus using a tmobile prepaid sim. I resized this sim to fit the htc one and everything worked fine( full bars for signal). Problem with this sim is that I could not make wifi calls. So I called tmobile and had them activate the new sim which I got with the htc one (Same prepaid plan, no data). i can now make wifi calls. Problem is once wifi is disconnected I only have 1 bar. If I attempt to make a call all bars raise in full, even if i attempt to check my balance the bars automatically jump from 1 to full and back to 1 bar after i see my balance. Is there a setting i need to change or is this normal? i am worried I may be missing calls like this. (All this happens when the wifi is disabled)
Sorry if the post is confusing, I tried to provide all the details but will be happy to provide anything else if necessary.
Thanks!

stephenjones007 said:
hello, I have a new t mobile htc one I got as gift (never opened). My old phone was an unlocked samsung galaxy nexus using a tmobile prepaid sim. I resized this sim to fit the htc one and everything worked fine( full bars for signal). Problem with this sim is that I could not make wifi calls. So I called tmobile and had them activate the new sim which I got with the htc one (Same prepaid plan, no data). i can now make wifi calls. Problem is once wifi is disconnected I only have 1 bar. If I attempt to make a call all bars raise in full, even if i attempt to check my balance the bars automatically jump from 1 to full and back to 1 bar after i see my balance. Is there a setting i need to change or is this normal? i am worried I may be missing calls like this. (All this happens when the wifi is disabled)
Sorry if the post is confusing, I tried to provide all the details but will be happy to provide anything else if necessary.
Thanks!
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This happens with me sometimes as well...if it is in LTE mode, the signal bars are less...1 , sometime 2, and sometimes 4... as soon as i make call, the data connection is OFF for that moment, and the signal bars are full....as soon as the calls end, the data connection is activated.... the bars are less again.... try changing the data connection modes from LTE to 3G only and to 2G....and see what happens

mathrania said:
This happens with me sometimes as well...if it is in LTE mode, the signal bars are less...1 , sometime 2, and sometimes 4... as soon as i make call, the data connection is OFF for that moment, and the signal bars are full....as soon as the calls end, the data connection is activated.... the bars are less again.... try changing the data connection modes from LTE to 3G only and to 2G....and see what happens
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Awesome this helps. Thanks. In my situation I have no data plan setup. No need for any internet on my phone atm. So all I use this phone for is calls and an occasional sms. Will I have a longer battery life if i disable lte and have it on gsm only? Would the call signal drop?

stephenjones007 said:
Awesome this helps. Thanks. In my situation I have no data plan setup. No need for any internet on my phone atm. So all I use this phone for is calls and an occasional sms. Will I have a longer battery life if i disable lte and have it on gsm only? Would the call signal drop?
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i am not sure, but when you dont use Mobile Data on your HTC one, there is no need to select the LTE mode.... you can select the other option always. and it might save battery as well....."might"

You will definitely save on battery if you switch to 2g if you don't use data at all. Switching to 3g frequency takes more battery even when there's no data connection.

I switched it to gsm only then disabled mobile data. Full bars now. This should work. The next option is wcdma which i dont think tmobile uses.

Keep Losing Network and Data Connections

Don't know if anyone else has had this issue in this forum, but I have found several others with same issue in other locations. No one has come up with answer and HTC has been no help.
If I lose my signal, due to location or if I drop off of wi/fi and go to cellular data, it seems that the phone loses the ability to make or receive calls or texts. For example, if I leave a strong signal area and drop to edge service or none, and then return to a good signal location, the phone shows full bars and 4G but if you try to make a call it will not connect or if someone calls in they just go to voice mail. I have to reboot the phone and all is good. This seems to happen several times a day, never any issues with iphone 4s or Galaxy S3.
Here is what I have done and then after the fact HTC sent me an email telling me to do same thing.
1. Got new sim card.....HTC is convinced that the sim from my iphone was not good.
2. Exchanged for new phone.
3. Ran phone without syncing to my google account or any downloads.
Still same issue with losing connection. Most of the time I don't realize it until someone says, hey I have been trying to call you. I reboot phone and, wow, several missed calls and bunches of texts.
Let's see what they have to offer after the complaint.
Thanks
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Hey, similar problem here
The difference is that I only loose mobile internet when disconnecting from wifi in AOSP roms (and GE), on sense roms it seems fine.
I have however noticed a pattern, it might help some one figure it out, but it might help you too.
I only lose Internet when disconnecting from wifi If 4G Is on, if I force my phone to not use 4G, then I don't loose network.
Also, if I do loose network, a reboot isn't required, you can simply Turn airplane mode on and off, that has always worked for me.
Ps: to force the phone off 4G I do the following :
1: open dialer
2: type : *#*#4636#*#*
3: go in "phone information"
4: under "Set preferred network type" set it to "wcdma preferred"
The reason I prefer this method is that it's always the same no matter the rom.
Pps: my baseband is 4A.17.3250.17, if that matters for any reason.
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Same problem here....
Not solved...try everything...but no luck....

I get it too seems like the phones radio doesn't switch frequencies as smooth as other phones.

Frequent Random Network Drops

I've seen a number of threads where people post about their device dropping network data connectivity, and needing a reboot to solve it.
My issue is a bit different. Occasionally (I've noticed it 3-4 times today) when I go to send a text (SMS) or to use a data enabled service like Hangouts, that my phone shows no bars at all.. not even just no data, but the bars are grey and there's a red x. I wait about 15 seconds and it reconnects, then another 10 seconds later, the data is live again.
Phone is a private sale and under 1 month old, and all the Stamina functions are off.. I do see that the "Queue background Data" is turned on, but I don't think this should effect, no?
Not sure what digits I should be looking at to know if this might be a hardware vs software issue.. build is listed as .93
Im no stranger to unlocking and flashing, but I've kept this stock cuz it's tight and I adore the battery life.
Suggestions?

sh0nuff said:
I've seen a number of threads where people post about their device dropping network data connectivity, and needing a reboot to solve it.
My issue is a bit different. Occasionally (I've noticed it 3-4 times today) when I go to send a text (SMS) or to use a data enabled service like Hangouts, that my phone shows no bars at all.. not even just no data, but the bars are grey and there's a red x. I wait about 15 seconds and it reconnects, then another 10 seconds later, the data is live again.
Phone is a private sale and under 1 month old, and all the Stamina functions are off.. I do see that the "Queue background Data" is turned on, but I don't think this should effect, no?
Not sure what digits I should be looking at to know if this might be a hardware vs software issue.. build is listed as .93
Im no stranger to unlocking and flashing, but I've kept this stock cuz it's tight and I adore the battery life.
Suggestions?
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check in settings in network and set your network to the one you use , like gm/wcdma /lte , maybe your phone is strugling to find 3g or 4g , try it , who knows it might solve the issue , ty

Been about a month since I posted, and I'm still experiencing this issue. I often thumb my phone on and it's not connected. I don't really mind waiting for the 30 seconds or so that it takes to jump back on the network, but it often means I miss calls, and since it's my business phone, it kinda bums me out to suddenly get a VM notification of a missed call even though it never rang.
Is there some sort of utility that I can use to monitor the network activity to see how frequently it drops, and for how long? I've looked into ones on Play but they don't seem to have a history, just something that shows what data up and down is currently being reported.
Sadly the only Sony store in my city (and I think the country - Canada) has recently closed for good, so I'm not sure how to go about warranty repairs...

sh0nuff said:
Been about a month since I posted, and I'm still experiencing this issue. I often thumb my phone on and it's not connected. I don't really mind waiting for the 30 seconds or so that it takes to jump back on the network, but it often means I miss calls, and since it's my business phone, it kinda bums me out to suddenly get a VM notification of a missed call even though it never rang.
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I don't have a solution, but I can tell you that you're not alone. I've been experienced the same thing on my Z3C. I sometimes wonder if it has anything to do with the fact that the MVNO I use doesn't support 4G LTE.

kopsis said:
I don't have a solution, but I can tell you that you're not alone. I've been experienced the same thing on my Z3C. I sometimes wonder if it has anything to do with the fact that the MVNO I use doesn't support 4G LTE.
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Interesting.. Your issue isn't just data, but a complete network disconnection? Im with Fido which is an MVNO under Rogers, but I thought they supported LTE. The issue also persists even on wifi

sh0nuff said:
Interesting.. Your issue isn't just data, but a complete network disconnection? Im with Fido which is an MVNO under Rogers, but I thought they supported LTE. The issue also persists even on wifi
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Yes, it seems to be a complete loss of the mobile connection. When I wake the phone I see gray bars and a red X on the signal strength indicator. Within seconds the phone re-acquires and the indicator goes to 2 or 3 bars. I have also seen it happen with wifi active. The frustrating part is that it doesn't seem to do it often enough to troubleshoot. I'll notice the problem maybe a couple of times a month and there's nothing obviously different about my usage patterns in those instances.

Mine does it at least a dozen times a day. I can only assume this as I frequently miss calls and at least 3-4 times a day I see it happen. =(

Same Problem
Randomly I have no connection at all but after a few seconds everything wents back to normal. Did not have this problem with T-mobile in Germany but with with O2 I have. With T-mobile I had LTE but with O2 I don't, so I guess that's the reason.

Interesting... I've disabled LTE and now have it on 3g/GSM. We'll see how it works moving forward, and I'll post again in a week. Stay tuned.

Service Providers
In the mobile network settings one can change the service provider manually. With LTE enabled my provider has three entries: LTE, 3G and 2G. Connecting two LTE fails, because my provider blocked it in my plan. Having LTE enabled, it often tries to connect to LTE I assume. I switched off LTE and set the provider manually to 3G. Maybe that helps. We'll see.

realTobbse said:
In the mobile network settings one can change the service provider manually. With LTE enabled my provider has three entries: LTE, 3G and 2G. Connecting two LTE fails, because my provider blocked it in my plan. Having LTE enabled, it often tries to connect to LTE I assume. I switched off LTE and set the provider manually to 3G. Maybe that helps. We'll see.
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Interesting.. I have LTE as part of my network and plan... But once I made changes to the settings as I indicated, I no longer receive the network drops I originally experienced.. I might just be missing the alerts, but it seems fixed... #crossedfingers