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Nexus 4 display color comparison!!

check this out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGQ49MOIlcA

another here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3ncrd6DOIA

Nothing special, to be honest. As mentioned in one of the comments under the video, he should have had the camera straight over the phones at the 90 degrees angle and set brightness equally. To me it doesn't seem as if the brightness was set equally... But maybe that's only me.
Aside from that, the screen was displaying everything totally properly I would say. I was a bit worried though about some greenish colour when the Nexus was in the Chrome browser. But that can also be only me.
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rabbit140 said:
Nothing special, to be honest. As mentioned in one of the comments under the video, he should have had the camera straight over the phones at the 90 degrees angle and set brightness equally. To me it doesn't seem as if the brightness was set equally... But maybe that's only me.
Aside from that, the screen was displaying everything totally properly I would say. I was a bit worried though about some greenish colour when the Nexus was in the Chrome browser. But that can also be only me.
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i agree with this.
the second video is better,90 degrees angle for both.
I hope kernel devs will modify display gamma for a bit more saturated colors,as the one X and iphone 5 :good:

And in the second video the GS3 screen was way too vivid, my eyes hurt But I guess it's just a thing you can get accustomed to, AMOLED screen that is.
Overall, Nexus seems pretty color - accurate to me. As soon as I get mine, I'll definitely post some RAW photos from my DSLR so you guys will be able to truly compare them to others. I think it would be a good idea though to post some decent RAW photos and let the community judge. Simple but effective.

nic85 said:
check this out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGQ49MOIlcA
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Very nice but I sure wish I knew what the hell he was saying.
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nic85 said:
another here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3ncrd6DOIA
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Not sure if it is just me but this video quality was horrendous. Both displays looked awful. I am not sure what he was using for a video camera but for a display comparison I think he needs something better.
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They all look good to me, you cannot go wrong with any screen. People can keep comparing under a camera lens and through the bias of their own monitor, however if you had any of these phones without all the others to compare then you'd be happy.
Personally I prefer OLED because of the black levels but tbh I don't care all that much.

nic85 said:
another here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3ncrd6DOIA
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Both displays looked great but you could tell that the Nexus had better colour reproduction and the whites were a lot better as well. S3 definitely seems to have some sort of a hue when it comes to producing whites. In the video he played the black levels looked pretty close.

Must be my display then.. the first video looked great but the second one was no good. I could not get a real great view. I will watch again later using my next 7.
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Richieboy67 said:
Must be my display then.. the first video looked great but the second one was no good. I could not get a real great view. I will watch again later using my next 7.
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I think you just didn't watch the video long enough. It starts off horrible and I was about to stop the video. But it becomes really clear around the time he starts comparing the snake heads.

Thoughtful said:
I think you just didn't watch the video long enough. It starts off horrible and I was about to stop the video. But it becomes really clear around the time he starts comparing the snake heads.
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Thanks, I will try again. I watched about half and gave up.
sent via xda premium with nexus 7 while waiting for my shiny new Nexus 4!

I was shocked at how washed out the Nexus 4 display looked to me when I first got it.
I don't notice it at all now - the display is beautiful. The iPhone 5 display appears to be of better overall quality, but I'll take the N4s screen size any day.

Best camera settings for every day shots?

I remember reading somewhere in this forum someone mentioning that there is a good tweak to make most shots better, something about contrast/sharpness. Am I read in assuming there is a settings tweak to make things more consistent?
What is it?
Thanks!

i use default and take great pics

Is there a way to turn on auto enhancement while taking pictures too. Thnx
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A lot of people like using -1 sharpness.

CheesyNutz said:
i use default and take great pics
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it's definitely SOLID by default, especially if you use the enhance tool sometimes. But there are times when things can seem washed out.

From my limited experience:
-1 Sharpness. You can always manually sharpen later.
Contrast +1 or +2 for outdoor shots. Alteratively, leave at default and use Auto Enhance later.
This guide is a good place to start:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/HTC-One-UltraPixel-camera-tips-and-tricks-review_id41691

-1 Sharpness, +1 Contrast and -1 Exposure for bright outdoors. Night mode or HRD + Auto Flash for really dark areas.
And any "Arena" websites are never trustworthy. 100% Samsung bias with hardly any technical knowledge of how software + hardware work together.

Thanks guys, definitely seeing some improvements with the above. After playing around a lot I think either making the above tweaks or using auto enhance works. They produce very similar results.

[Q] How to get this camera to make good pictures

Howdy! I've got this phone for 3 days now. One of the main reasons to choose this one, is the camera. It should give stunning pictures, right? Wrong.
I can't for the love of me get even one good picture. Each and every one is either out of focus, distorted in some way, or it looks like there's not enough light (even when the picture is taken outside).
I started out with the automatic mode. What I dislike there, is that it never chooses the max. resolution. Manual mode, I can't get it to make good pictures either; though that might be because of lack of expertise.
Is my device broken? Am I doing something wrong? Help would be appreciated.

Angelusz said:
Howdy! I've got this phone for 3 days one. One of the main reasons to choose this one, is the camera. It should give stunning pictures, right? Wrong.
I can't for the love of me get even one good picture. Each and every one is either out of focus, distorted in some way, or it looks like there's not enough light (even when the picture is taken outside).
I started out with the automatic mode. What I dislike there, is that it never chooses the max. resolution. Manual mode, I can't get it to make good pictures either; though that might be because of lack of expertise.
Is my device broken? Am I doing something wrong? Help would be appreciated.
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What is your firmware version? 354 i guess.

z_harris said:
What is your firmware version? 354 i guess.
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Thank you for your reply. I'm currently on the newest firmware. I'm running RomAur v3.2. I had the same problem on a different modified stock ROM of the latest firmware build.

I only know for good light condition, you set the ISO to as low as possible and 20mp manual and need a pair of steady hands. I still havent figure out low light condition, some ppl suggest twilight mode.

1. manual mode. the automode is bull****
2. fullsize. you can resize after the shooting^^
3. let the iso as low as possible. remember that the image becomes a little brighter than in the preview. use flash if its dark
i dont have any problems with the camera, even if taking pictures of moving obejcts in dark conditions. just stop shaking your hands and geht the iso lower^^

Caffeineshock said:
1. manual mode. the automode is bull****
2. fullsize. you can resize after the shooting^^
3. let the iso as low as possible. remember that the image becomes a little brighter than in the preview. use flash if its dark
i dont have any problems with the camera, even if taking pictures of moving obejcts in dark conditions. just stop shaking your hands and geht the iso lower^^
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Yea iso to a lower value
Here is a picture with iso over 100
And one at 50 (if picture can't be attached then I'll post it next - having issue with xda app)
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Meh I'm not happy with xda app
Here is pic with 100 iso
U may need to adjust ev accordingly
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Colorful !
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This is with bad lighting (Sun was shining at the cam), a view from my window. Is this the quality I should expect from this phonecam?
Inside, it's never sharp. There simply seems to be too little light to make sharp pictures. The flash does nearly nothing. The low ISO setting makes it lag very much as well, reducing the screen fps to 3 or something like that. I guess it's difficult for the device to keep up.
http://aciai.me/i/uk0v.jpg

Check out my images in this topic
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47315006#post47315006
Nothing wrong with the camera with the right settings and don't have shaky hands!

wezzel98765 said:
Check out my images in this topic
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47315006#post47315006
Nothing wrong with the camera with the right settings and don't have shaky hands!
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Those do look better. Do I understand correctly that I should take a course in photography and buy a an app to get decent pictures out of this thing? I've heard about FV-5 before. Is it that much better than the stock camera app?

im not satisfied at all with z1 camera , am i missing something ??

Angelusz said:
I've heard about FV-5 before. Is it that much better than the stock camera app?
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there are two apps much better than FV-5
1) Pro Capture: More details. Sharper pictures. aiding grid to get great shots. (but you can't manage ISO level and the max resolution is 8MPX)
2) Camera Zoom FX: Faster focus. More MPX option (18MPX resolution is available)

Angelusz said:
Those do look better. Do I understand correctly that I should take a course in photography and buy a an app to get decent pictures out of this thing? I've heard about FV-5 before. Is it that much better than the stock camera app?
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I've not done photography either mate and the pictures were taken with stock camera application, except the picture of my can

wezzel98765 said:
I've not done photography either mate and the pictures were taken with stock camera application, except the picture of my can
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Then my device is broken. I tested a few shots next to a Galaxy Note 3, and it made much (MUCH) better pictures than my Z1. Tried all kinds of settings, no way to make it right. So mine must be ****. I'm getting it exchanged because of a lazy pixel anyway, but I'm really disappointed in Sony here. I thought they made quality products. :x
guybrush2099 said:
there are two apps much better than FV-5
1) Pro Capture: More details. Sharper pictures. aiding grid to get great shots. (but you can't manage ISO level and the max resolution is 8MPX)
2) Camera Zoom FX: Faster focus. More MPX option (18MPX resolution is available)
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Okay, thanks for the tips.

wezzel98765 said:
Check out my images in this topic
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47315006#post47315006
Nothing wrong with the camera with the right settings and don't have shaky hands!
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Mmm, can you explain me better auto mode? Do you selected a scene? Do you select single focus point or multi point?
Metering? (Can you explain this)
HDR or image stabilizer?
Do you use the hardware button to take pictures or the software one? I noticed that using the hw one after you press focus and then more to shoot produce a little movement that can make your photo bad. Am I the only one that find the camera button too hard?
Thanks a lot!!!!
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Angelusz said:
Then my device is broken. I tested a few shots next to a Galaxy Note 3, and it made much (MUCH) better pictures than my Z1. Tried all kinds of settings, no way to make it right. So mine must be ****. I'm getting it exchanged because of a lazy pixel anyway, but I'm really disappointed in Sony here. I thought they made quality products. :x
Okay, thanks for the tips.
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Got my Z1 today.
I have exactly the same problems as you have. Even my Galaxy Nexus with 5mp does better photos :crying:
Also tried some different camera settings without any success.
Don't know what to do now...

ganex said:
Got my Z1 today.
I have exactly the same problems as you have. Even my Galaxy Nexus with 5mp does better photos :crying:
Also tried some different camera settings without any success.
Don't know what to do now...
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My advice: Contact the seller and have it exchanged. I think it's a hardware problem.

yes..nexus can't take better pictures than xz1..there's a problem
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what do you think?
http://www.pic-upload.de/view-21310660/DSC_0030.jpg.html
(sorry for the wrong rotation)
settings: manual, iso 200, light +0,7, 5284x3963.
what is wrong? what focus do you use?

Android 4.4.2 Camera test

Hi all I just received the OTA for Android 4.4.2 so have put together a before and after comparing 4.4 to 4.4.2 for the Nexus 5 camera. Includes some full crop images and video capture as well as the all important autofocus test.
Very pleased with the results looks like Google have made big improvements all round to the camera.

You've obviously not tried the camcorder in dim light?
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Thx for the vid man!
Ben36 said:
You've obviously not tried the camcorder in dim light?
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Why do you put a question mark at the end of a statement you clearly don't look for an answer to?

Because Google haven't made improvements, they've ballsed it up since 4.4!
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Ben36 said:
Because Google haven't made improvements, they've ballsed it up since 4.4!
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Maybe for you.. camcorder exposure is fine for me.
Stock 4.4.2 odexed

BoneXDA said:
Thx for the vid man!
Why do you put a question mark at the end of a statement you clearly don't look for an answer to?
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because it's what we call a rhetorical question....

Ben36 said:
You've obviously not tried the camcorder in dim light?
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I've tried it in dim light and find the noise to be ok, better than the S4 not as good as HTC One (to be expected)
ISO is ramping more aggressively in still images IMO but not a deal breaker, looks better than the S4 anyway.

The screen is really, really dark in dim light. And the video itself is also really dark.
Case and point, i went to a bar with my girlfriend to eat something. I decided to record something using the camcorder, and well. I'll let the results speak for themselves. It looked like the lights were out in the place. I wish I had thought to take pictures, because it certainly wasn't as dark as the video would lead you to believe.
https://plus.google.com/+HectorCaceres/posts/WGZ3kZHNMj6

Sampson0420 said:
because it's what we call a rhetorical question....
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No it's not. A rhetorical question is still a form of question, "you've obviously not tried the camcorder in dim light" however is not, so the use of question mark is inappropriate? (See what I did there? <-- rhetorical question.)

xybur said:
The screen is really, really dark in dim light. And the video itself is also really dark.
Case and point, i went to a bar with my girlfriend to eat something. I decided to record something using the camcorder, and well. I'll let the results speak for themselves. It looked like the lights were out in the place. I wish I had thought to take pictures, because it certainly wasn't as dark as the video would lead you to believe.
https://plus.google.com/+HectorCaceres/posts/WGZ3kZHNMj6
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Is that with the 4.4.2 or 4.4.1 update installed?

androidizen said:
Is that with the 4.4.2 or 4.4.1 update installed?
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I went 4.4->4.4.1->4.4.2
When I recorded that video, I used 4.4.1.
I tested later and had the same behavior in 4.4.2.

androidizen said:
I've tried it in dim light and find the noise to be ok, better than the S4 not as good as HTC One (to be expected)
ISO is ramping more aggressively in still images IMO but not a deal breaker, looks better than the S4 anyway.
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I'm starting to think that we're all seeing the same thing and just coming up with different interpretations due to subjective differences. There's no other reason that everyone would be having such wildly different results using the same software and hardware.
All I know is that video recording on my phone in low light is MUCH, MUCH darker than it was on either 4.4 or 4.4.1. I wish I had taken some screenies before updating to show you.

xybur said:
The screen is really, really dark in dim light. And the video itself is also really dark.
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Are the results with 4.4 much better? This has really got to be on the edge of what the sensor can do in video so the results don't surprise me.

for anyone wondering about the dimmer picture in the video ,
i made a little example here
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3W...it?usp=sharing
( dont have to download to view)
im not complaining , just showing what people are saying

haydonxda said:
Are the results with 4.4 much better? This has really got to be on the edge of what the sensor can do in video so the results don't surprise me.
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Uhh, actually I remember I have another low light recording that I did on 4.4 when I was in a restaurant. Very low ambient lighting. The test was more to see the image stabilization during recording, but the lighting was comparable to the bar.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwFhXib0pZk

xybur said:
Uhh, actually I remember I have another low light recording that I did on 4.4 when I was in a restaurant. Very low ambient lighting. The test was more to see the image stabilization during recording, but the lighting was comparable to the bar.
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Those two videos have completely different lighting. If you took a light meter into those two places (restaurant vs bar) you'll find that the bar is really much darker.
I'm not saying that 4.4.1/2 isn't worse - just that these two videos don't make a good comparison.

haydonxda said:
Those two videos have completely different lighting. If you took a light meter into those two places (restaurant vs bar) you'll find that the bar is really much darker.
I'm not saying that 4.4.1/2 isn't worse - just that these two videos don't make a good comparison.
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What's funny is that I had spotlighting right above my head (direct, LED bright lighting) IN the bar at the table I was sitting at, which would make it look like stage lighting.
But it looks as if it's horrendously dark in there and all of the ambient LED's look like christmas lights thanks to the recording and the contrast of light sources. Trust me when I say it was a lot brighter in the bar than the video would lead you to believe.

My 4.4.2 pictures.
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xybur said:
The screen is really, really dark in dim light. And the video itself is also really dark.
Case and point, i went to a bar with my girlfriend to eat something. I decided to record something using the camcorder, and well. I'll let the results speak for themselves. It looked like the lights were out in the place. I wish I had thought to take pictures, because it certainly wasn't as dark as the video would lead you to believe.
https://plus.google.com/+HectorCaceres/posts/WGZ3kZHNMj6
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That looks exactly like I would expect a video from a dimly lit bar to look.

I didn't think to take any photos at the time, but the difference between the photo viewfinder mode and the camcorder mode was incredibly noticeable, very similar to the screen caps of the viewfinders posted in the 4.4.2 first thoughts thread.
edit: Here is the thread if you somehow missed it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2562886

General Grainy pictures

Is it just me or does photo quality kinda suck, almost all my pictures come out grainy and my note 10+ pictures were much better, kinda regret the upgrade

Yeah it sucks

mattbel66 said:
Yeah it sucks
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Damn I was hoping it was defective or something because quality really sucks

bayniner said:
Damn I was hoping it was defective or something because quality really sucks
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lol wasn't sure if you're serious, but there's a 79 page thread called Camera Performance that has plenty examples of good and bad pictures as well as various settings and scenarios. You should at least post examples of what you're talking about.

beserker15 said:
lol wasn't sure if you're serious, but there's a 79 page thread called Camera Performance that has plenty examples of good and bad pictures as well as various settings and scenarios. You should at least post examples of what you're talking about.
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Thanks I'll check out the thread didn't see it, haven't really been active in the forums for awhile, but all my previous phones never really messed with camera settings just point & shoot.

Disable Scene Optimizer. For me it removes the grainy effect on photos.

Are you seeing the same issue for all cameras?
Or is the issue only when you use excessive digital cropping/zooming?
Keep in mind, your phone might be using the main sensor (1x) and then digitally cropping that to generate whatever photo you are using.
If so, you'll see a much better quality if you rely on the optical zoom, not digital.