I was thinking of getting this phone but i'm a bit worried about the durability.
Or maybe it's too easy to damage. I don't like using cases for phones.
Are phones getting damaged easily?
Phones made of aluminium are more prone to chipping and serious damage than phones made of plastic, yeah, but that's the price we all One users have agreed to pay for the more premium-feel of it.
To be fair, phones aren't really made with being dropped in mind. A sleek, beautiful and premium-feeling like the One means more to me than a durable, ugly, glossy polycarbonate phone that the GS4 is.
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Phones made of aluminium are more prone to chipping and serious damage than phones made of plastic, yeah, but that's the price we all One users have agreed to pay for the more premium-feel of it.
To be fair, phones aren't really made with being dropped in mind. A sleek, beautiful and premium-feeling like the One means more to me than a durable, ugly, glossy polycarbonate phone that the GS4 is.
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Thanks. True, I never intend to drop my phones, but unfortunately it can happen. My GSII does feel plasticy, but when I've dropped it, it's survived unmarked. I'm a bit worried about that glass - it shouldn't scratch so easily like in that video.
Scratched? He probably had some sand wherever he was at. Gorilla Glass is rated about 5-6H in hardness. Knifes and regular metal will not scratch it. Copper coins won't as well. Anything harder than those will. A single grain of sand can contain Quartz, which is 7H.
That's what cases, covers and most importantly protective, clear coats like ZAGG's Invisible Shield are made for. It's true that aluminum is more prone to getting chipped or scratched than other materials, but as mentioned above, that's the price you pay for choosing the best quality over the most durable. To be honest with you, I'd rather buy the HTC One and install an invisible shield or nice looking case to protect it than invest in a device with cheap plastic any day. And if you're too paranoid about scratches, grab yourself an Otterbox Defender or such and you'll never have to worry about your device again.
Mine's been naked for a little over a month now and it still looks perfect. It is silver which seems more durable than the black but I've kept in it the same pocket as my keys, coins, zippo, plus whatever weird junk I'm carrying and there isn't a single scratch, dent, hole, or anything.
That said, I am Irish...
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Mine's been naked for a little over a month now and it still looks perfect. It is silver which seems more durable than the black but I've kept in it the same pocket as my keys, coins, zippo, plus whatever weird junk I'm carrying and there isn't a single scratch, dent, hole, or anything.
That said, I am Irish...
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Is the sliver one bare aluminum? Or does it have a coating of some kind?
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Is the sliver one bare aluminum? Or does it have a coating of some kind?
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Feels like bare anodized aluminum, although I shouldn't have said it was perfect. The white stripes going across the back can get pretty dirty, but that's true of almost all white plastic pieces on phones and is easily fixed with a old toothbrush.
Check this out though if you're worried about scrapes.
http://forums.androidcentral.com/ht...-body-scratch-test-updated-black-version.html
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Is the sliver one bare aluminum? Or does it have a coating of some kind?
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The silver one is purely anodized aluminium, however the black one does have a coating and therefore scratches waaaay more easily.
Oh wow I had no idea the black one has a coating; I sure am glad I made the choice to go with silver!
Guys,any way to clear the white rubber(ornplastic??) stripes around the phone?
Toothbrush and a tiny bit of toothpaste. Make sure it's not wet though.
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Toothbrush and a tiny bit of toothpaste. Make sure it's not wet though.
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Ook :good:
I was asking because, so far my is perfect, but my cover do not cover top and bottom ( side are well covered) because is the semi-rigid crystal clear
Any tip to protect these 2 parts without changing cover?
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Oh wow I had no idea the black one has a coating; I sure am glad I made the choice to go with silver!
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I think the silver is also anodized aluminum, just with a different color. The difference is that a silver color won't contrast with the aluminum construction if scratched.
i dropped my phone on my concrete driveway while i was cleaning the rims of my car..i was wearing basketball shorts..i was so pissed but it wasn't as bad as i thought it would be
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i dropped my phone on my concrete driveway while i was cleaning the rims of my car..i was wearing basketball shorts..i was so pissed but it wasn't as bad as i thought it would be
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So you expected it to be 'terrible' or just 'bad'? Photo?
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http://i42.tinypic.com/35klell.jpg
I'd expect it to be much worse than that. I dropped my Galaxy S3 with flip cover installed on the floor from a very short distance on its side and the LCD broke from the inside and I had to replace the whole digitiser, lcd and of course the frame, not to mention that was inside the house and it fell on ceramic and I am sure asphalt is worse.
Yeah, I think that was pretty lucky.
I just saw this vid of how they test Samsung phones by this machine doing repeated drop tests, impact, and water tests etc. but I think it all depends on the angle and place where the phone hits the surface.
I read that we could use iKlear, the solution as well as the micro-fiber towel in order to clean not only the sides but the whole device (including the screen). I have an unopened iKlear package which I got for my iPad a couple of months ago, so I am going to give it a shot when the sides get a bit dirty and report back.
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Nice to see Samsung going with a premium metal finish and it does look stunning when new but 2 weeks down the line and it is covered in tiny scratches etc...
I look after my phones, tbh I'm a little bit OCD but even still the edge is looking tatty.
I then got a TPU case to try and protect it... 2 days later, it is scratched to hell! Just the case alone touching the chamfered edge is enough to scuff it...
what did Samsung make it out of? Cheese? A soft cheese at that!
I love my note 4 but...
I have the same experience. Maybe if it gets too bad I'll try the method used in this video.
http://youtu.be/EZuYzQrIHjA
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Nice to see Samsung going with a premium metal finish and it does look stunning when new but 2 weeks down the line and it is covered in tiny scratches etc...
I look after my phones, tbh I'm a little bit OCD but even still the edge is looking tatty.
I then got a TPU case to try and protect it... 2 days later, it is scratched to hell! Just the case alone touching the chamfered edge is enough to scuff it...
what did Samsung make it out of? Cheese? A soft cheese at that!
I love my note 4 but...
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Is this the white or black version you are talking about?
I've got the Ringke Slim on mine and it covers the edges. No scratches on mine.
It's the black one I have...
the coloured part is immaculate still but the polished section looks a mess
My note 2 seemed to fair much better in terms of durability.
Also, the camera lens cover is very exposed on these, I hope it can be replaced somehow in the future (although no scratches yet)
Same here with the white one. Got scratches on the chamfered edge from being in a pants pocket for gods sake. Anybody know to go about buffing them out?
Sorry to hear that you are having those problems. I am not trying to burst your bubble but the "metal" finish around the Note 4 is NOT metal. I have have read a post on this forum of another person saying the same thing and so I went down to my nearest BB to check it out. I am now convinced that he was right.
Here is the test I carried out to prove the point. I found a Galaxy Alpha and examined the similar finish and that is truly metal. With the AC in Best Buy I was able to put the Alpha to my cheek and you can feel the coldness of the metal. I then walked over to the Samsung store in BB and did the same with ALL the Note 4s on display and they were all just at reasonable temp. Also on the Alpha it will be noticed that the headphone jack and the charging port is covered in plastic or rubber inside of the metal cutout. Take a look at he N4 slot for the pen or the headphone jack and you will see that the white plastic is just covered by the " metal" finish.
That my friend is why you are having scuff marks already on your new device. It is JUST a "METAL" finish on the outside. Now if there is a metal frame it is on the inside, not on the outside like the Alpha. Can't wait to see a teardown from folks like IFIXIT to confirm. I could be wrong but until proven wrong I will stand by my cheek test.
No, it is metal (aluminium I believe ) but it is very thin. When you look at the headphone jack port like you say there is plastic but there is still a thin metal part of the frame...
Samsung wouldn't have needed to add the spacers in the frame (small white blocks top and bottom) if it was metal effect. These are there for the antennas to work properly in the metal.
Aluminium is a very soft metal, perhaps if they chose a more sturdy, harder metal like titanium for example then we wouldn't be having this problem but then we would have paid more for the already expensive phone.
For me I'll just end up keeping the TPU case on, it feels better in the hand and against the ear (metal frame has quite sharp edges) and offers some protection without adding much bulk to the device. Maybe once the phone has been used a while I'll look into customising the frame with either plastidip or hydroprint.
Yeah it would be made of aluminium. People wanting that "premium" look and feel. Just like the iPhone and any other phone made of an alloy, looks awesome out of the box but after a while scratches will appear. Plastic resists much much better, that's just the way it is.
Also it would have been hilarious watching you going around touching the bezels with your face
remove the back cover and look at the frame closely: you can see that the whole frame is definitely NOT metal. it is plastic with metal coating or layer and some metal inlays.
I highly doubt that the frame only has a metal coating. If you check the YouTube video of the guy bending the ip6p, note 3 and 4 you will see the note 3 bend and bounce back because it's plastic. Alloy on the other hand bends and stays bent. Looking at you note 4.
Of course I could be wrong.
It does seem to be a thin metal covering over a plastic frame...
gives the look of a premium device but the protection and flexibility of a plastic device
The frame is made of metals collected from the moon and the back cover leather is made from the skin of puppies.
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Whether its a thin metal strip on the top or solid metal, the nature of being aluminium is that it will scratch easily. It is the same with the HTC One that also has a chamfered edge. I have read many reports of it getting scratched too easily. If you look closely at the edge you will see that at the very least it is a metal strip. Thickness has nothing to do with scratch resistance. So we can argue whether it's solid or not, but the relevance to the initial poster's issue that it scratches easily is zero!
Everyone complained about Samsung's cheap looking plastic bezel. Now we are complaining about the upmarket stylish metal one! I guess a finish like the edges of an iPhone 6 are the only option that will satisfy everyone's needs. Incidentally I do remember reports of people with the bumper case on an iphone 4...took it off, to find that the little imperfection nodules of plastic on the inside of the bumper were enough to rub and wear the metal surround of the phone!
And if they had anodized it, it would have prevented scratches (like Nokia n8),but would have caused the frame to crack more easily, unless they used more surface, or thicker pieces of aluminum, which in turn would affect other things. So pointless.
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Even if it was made of adamantium people would still complain.
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Even if it was made of adamantium people would still complain.
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you do know that aluminium and metal phones get scratched up this easy i dont know why ya'll are surprised
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you do know that aluminium and metal phones get scratched up this easy i dont know why ya'll are surprised
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Even in manufacturing these metals are impossible to keep pristine. I had an iPhone 4 with a small nick in the metal band out of the box. I had an HTC One with a couple of little nicks and microscratches in the band out of the box. And my note 4 also has a few imperfections. But then it's best not to study these phones under a spotlight because you will just find things you don't want to see!
I think/hope the issue lies with TPU cases simply because they, as all cases trap dirt under them but because they are TPU they have more movement.... the dirt gets ground against the polished edges. Hard cases like the Ringke do not have this movement...
Would be helpful to others if people who are experiencing this issue state which cases they have used.
Thanks.
Just in case you were hoping that the body of this watch was a solid piece of black metal, it's not. If you bang the edge of bezel it will expose shiny silver metal. I know this because my desk at work is glass and I banged the bezel against it's edge when standing up. Nothing I couldn't improve with a little black magic marker. Sigh, oh well, nothing stays brand new forever.
P.S., Apparently no metal is black through and through. That being said, whatever they have used to "paint" this black is not very good and comes off easily.
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Just in case you were hoping that the body of this watch was a solid piece of black metal, it's not.
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There is no such thing as "black metal" on this planet, yet. That material does not exist and has not been invented yet. Everything that is made out of metal is PAINTED (with different methodologies, but still, painted). No matter how you will create that paint (melted powder, dissolved material, laser) it will only be a thin layer at the surface of the metal. If you will scratch the coloured layer, the METAL under it will be revealed .
So, the hardness of a color on a metal surface it's given by the paint type and the method of applying it.
Yea.. I went to a shop and the promoter showed me a pretty banged up device.. with liver linings all over.
Does anyone know if the silver version is every gonna come out?
Huh gotta say I find this somewhat discouraging. Barely brushed the metal on the bezel of this watch against another hard surface and the paint came right off. Whatever method they used on this didn't work very well. The Zenwatch is suddenly looking more appealing.
Looked around and this seems to be the best repair item I've seen for fixing scratches on black anodized aluminum.
http://www.amazon.com/Birchwood-Casey-Super-Black-Touch/dp/B00BGH0Y0W/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
Of course not everyone loves it but most who know what they were doing seem to. Seems to work better than the old Sharpie solution because that dries very flat and you can see it.
This is why I bought a whole case plus screen protector for it.
You might want to consider doing the same.
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This is why I bought a whole case plus screen protector for it.
You might want to consider doing the same.
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Yes but none of those kits protect the edge of the bezel which is the most likely place to get scratched.
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Yes but none of those kits protect the edge of the bezel which is the most likely place to get scratched.
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Nothing will.
Until they make full case covers and that for sure will look like ****.
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Nothing will.
Until they make full case covers and that for sure will look like ****.
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Actually a little adhesive black rubber ring to go right on that bezel edge would to the trick. Sort of a bump guard. That's really the only place you need to protect.
may be that the bezel can be easily changed
I thought that for the price it has to be DLC coated. The ZenWatch should be better, or at least cheaper to replace.
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Do you know if it is possible to change the bezel ?
I banged my watch bezel against a painted wooden door frame today. It took paint off the door frame. But I wiped off the bezel and it was unphased by the event. You'd have to bang the bezel pretty good against something pretty hard to mess it up.
I rubbed mine on a metal surface, at first I saw a nice streak, rubbed it and my watch was fine.
Beware the edge of glass tables. As glass is very hard it will scratch the paint off your bezel with ease. I have a glass top on my office desk. Since I wear the watch on my left wrist, I've put a piece of black rubber electrical tape above where I tend to rest my hand on my leg. Now if I bang the watch on the glass table edge it is protected.
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I banged my watch bezel against a painted wooden door frame today. It took paint off the door frame. But I wiped off the bezel and it was unphased by the event. You'd have to bang the bezel pretty good against something pretty hard to mess it up.
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A dumbel during fitness
i was wondering if it could be replaced...
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may be that the bezel can be easily changed
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Can it be replaced? I want to throw a diamond bezel on it.
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Can it be replaced? I want to throw a diamond bezel on it.
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It can't be replaced. But there's a thread in one of these "R" forums. Where someone shows in detail, how to file down the top part and looks nice.
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It can't be replaced. But there's a thread in one of these "R" forums. Where someone shows in detail, how to file down the top part and looks nice.
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What's so hard about taking a file to it? I just took my wife's nail file and filed the entire top ring off. Some dude, filed the entire thing. too.
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I banged my watch bezel against a painted wooden door frame today. It took paint off the door frame. But I wiped off the bezel and it was unphased by the event. You'd have to bang the bezel pretty good against something pretty hard to mess it up.
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I too have had some pretty big brushes with objects and the bezel has faired well in every case.
Ordered this case after seeing it on amz traders, figured I would try it. Here's my amazon review.
Great protective case, honestly it's probably the most protective I have ever used. It includes a thick, seems to me, plastic screen protector that's glued in, has covers over all the ports and a swinging mechanism over the 3.5 jack. I have large hands and had to struggle a bit to remove the S-Pen but not horribly, the charging cover is a bit stiff requiring several attempts to get it open in order to charge the phone. I do not have wireless charging currently so couldn't test that.
The buttons all work properly, a bit stiff but imagine they will break in a bit over time. It takes a bit to get your phone in this case, 4 screws and several minutes, it is not a quick change case. You put it in this case when you know you'll need it, hiking, constriction work, biking etc.
Lastly is the weight, it's heavy. Double the weight of the phone heavy. With all that said, for a protective case you are not going to beat it, it's that solid. It sounds like I don't like the case but I do, I wouldn't call it an everyday day case with the weight but I am certain it would protect my phone in all conditions I could find myself in. I did not remove my tempered glass screen protector prior to putting it in the case which I am sure probably make things a bit tighter but most of my cases do not have one built in so I'll keep it on.
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I noticed the Amazon listing mentions a tempered glass screen protector but you said it's plastic.
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I noticed the Amazon listing mentions a tempered glass screen protector but you said it's plastic.
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Yeah, I think it's plastic tho. It's pretty thick, doesn't sound like glass when tapping my fingernail.
Holy crap that thing is ugly. Looks like it was take right from a Transformers movie. Why buy such a sleek and nice phone just to slap it with so much uglyness?
They might rule in advertising, but I would bet Spigen sells a lot more cases than Otterbox does. I see hardly anybody with an Otterbox, but people who do have them it is very obvious and noticeable because they're enormous and look absurd, especially large phones like the Note. It looks different than a normal case that most people have, which is why it's a conversation piece and people know the name. However, even with the size, at least Otterbox makes decent looking cases of high quality. This thing is fugly with those black accents and ugly 5ive logo printed on.
Is there even access to the s-pen?
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Is there even access to the s-pen?
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Yes, the red lever thing swings open and allows access. Honestly, I sent it back to amazon. It just made the phone too heavy to actually use, intact it fell out of my hand because of the weight. It's a shame because it was definitely a change from the normal cases on the market.
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Holy crap that thing is ugly. Looks like it was take right from a Transformers movie. Why buy such a sleek and nice phone just to slap it with so much uglyness?
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LOL, I didn't mind the look so much as I wanted protection. I work in construction and welding, lost several phones to drops that normal cases just can't protect from.
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LOL, I didn't mind the look so much as I wanted protection. I work in construction and welding, lost several phones to drops that normal cases just can't protect from.
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Thanks, that makes absolutely sense. I absolutely understand that for some users it is imperative to have protection and that looks are 100% secondary.
I just donĀ“t understand most people that pack their phones into such things while sitting at a desk the whole day.
In your case, 100% agree.
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Yeah, I think it's plastic tho. It's pretty thick, doesn't sound like glass when tapping my fingernail.
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I ended up getting this case thru AMZ. I took a very sharp knife point to the screen protector and couldn't scratch it, so it may actually be glass.
I got this too, but haven't actually received it yet. shipped from china and its taking forever to get here!!
I am sick of using a screen protector, is the screen realy scrach resistant.what you guys experienced?
You should watch JerryRigEverythings review of the Oneplus 3/3t here, as he says in the clip, our phone has gorilla glas 4 and scratches at level 6 and deeper scratches at level 7.
https://youtu.be/8PZ8W_g6Vvk
I've never used screen protector on mine. Only irritating thing is that it's quite prone to getting smudged by skin fat, that means the oleophobic coating of the screen surface could be better, maybe the only reason that I would put a screen protector on my 3t.
The screen protector definitely makes a big difference in durability and scratch-resistance, but after time with a case it kinda messes up the protector. I like using my phone without one.
The screen can get scratched.
ive got a few hair thin scratches on my screen so i wouldnt say that the glass is superb but it holds up against some abrasion. I just wouldnt put your keys in the same pocket as your phone.
This screen is definitely not scratch resistant. 4 months of usage and I've got one nice scratch down the middle and some superficial scratches towards the top corners. Phone has never been in a case, just keep it in a leather holster
Whether the glass is classified as "scratch resistant" is a semantic and marketing distinction. To answer "yes" or "no" to this (whether it is "really" scratch resistant) doesn't mean much of anything. Gorilla Glass is meant to resist some scratches. But that doesn't mean it can't be scratched (and far from it). And that doesn't account for oleophobic coating applied to it, which can also scratch.
For every person who says they never have gotten a scratch, you will find another person that scratched theirs in days/weeks. My other (work) phone is an iPhone (also Gorilla Glass). I'm admittedly not too gentle with it, and it got a big gouge on the screen the first week or so after I received it.
Whether to use a screen protector or not, comes down to a personal choice. Many folks don't like the feel or hassle of a protector. But if you don't use one, you will have to live with the potential of at least superficial scuffs, or even deeper scratches.
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ive got a few hair thin scratches on my screen so i wouldnt say that the glass is superb but it holds up against some abrasion. I just wouldnt put your keys in the same pocket as your phone.
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Keys cant damage gorilla glass unless they are made of diamond or any material which is harder or equally hard as gorilla glass, sand, concrete, diamond can scratch screen easily.. it doesnt matter how sharp the object is but how hard it is
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Keys cant damage gorilla glass unless they are made of diamond or any material which is harder or equally hard as gorilla glass, sand, concrete, diamond can scratch screen easily.. it doesnt matter how sharp the object is but how hard it is
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Walmart makes some strong keys then.
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Walmart makes some strong keys then.
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Its not keys.. your pocket probably has dust inside with particles of material which is harder than ur screen
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Its not keys.. your pocket probably has dust inside with particles of material which is harder than ur screen
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It's not a big deal really. Theyre so unnoticeable i have to actually seek them out to see them.
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I am sick of using a screen protector, is the screen realy scrach resistant.what you guys experienced?
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No,i suggest you to use a screen protector.
protocol717 said:
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The Corning Gorilla Glass 4 is indeed 'Scratch-Proof' under normal usage in urban daily life, but still it cannot stand the IMPACT force when it drop to the ground, so get a TEMPERED GLASS Screen protector. If u still feel sick of using it, then spend some bucks to buy RhinoShield CrashGuard along with some DBrand skins ? !
Got to look 'SiCk' after that ?
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Isus <3 said:
Keys cant damage gorilla glass unless they are made of diamond or any material which is harder or equally hard as gorilla glass, sand, concrete, diamond can scratch screen easily.. it doesnt matter how sharp the object is but how hard it is
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While GG may be hard to scratch, it doesn't account for the oleophobic coating, which is much easier to scratch. To the user, it doesn't matter which scratches (the glass or the coating). A scratch is a scratch.
Scientifically you are correct. For that matter, you can't even scratch a regular glass beer bottle with a key (go ahead and try, I have) since the Moh's hardness of glass is 5.5 , and steel is only around 4.
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The Corning Gorilla Glass 4 is indeed 'Scratch-Proof' under normal usage in urban daily life
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Everyone (not just you, but others on the thread, including the original poster) should stop thinking about terms like "scratch resistant" and "scratch proof" as absolute yes/no things, since they aren't. There is no technical or scientific definition for these terms. Nothing is scratch proof, even a diamond can scratch a diamond. And I know you qualified it with "normal usage" but that term itself is completely subjective. Many folks wear diamond rings on their hands on a normal daily basis, after all.
Similar to the term "water proof" which doesn't really mean anything by itself. That is why things like IP ratings (which define specific water depth/pressure and exposure times) have been developed to better define water resistance/water proofness.
And as I already mentioned above, even if the glass was "scratch proof" (if there was such a thing), it would be irrelevant, since they've put a coating on top of the glass, that can be scratched.
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While GG may be hard to scratch, it doesn't account for the oleophobic coating, which is much easier to scratch. To the user, it doesn't matter which scratches (the glass or the coating). A scratch is a scratch.
Scientifically you are correct. For that matter, you can't even scratch a regular glass beer bottle with a key (go ahead and try, I have) since the Moh's hardness of glass is 5.5 , and steel is only around 4.
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Everyone (not just you, but others on the thread, including the original poster) should stop thinking about terms like "scratch resistant" and "scratch proof" as absolute yes/no things, since they aren't. There is no technical or scientific definition for these terms. Nothing is scratch proof, even a diamond can scratch a diamond. And I know you qualified it with "normal usage" but that term itself is completely subjective. Many folks wear diamond rings on their hands on a normal daily basis, after all.
Similar to the term "water proof" which doesn't really mean anything by itself. That is why things like IP ratings (which define specific water depth/pressure and exposure times) have been developed to better define water resistance/water proofness.
And as I already mentioned above, even if the glass was "scratch proof" (if there was such a thing), it would be irrelevant, since they've put a coating on top of the glass, that can be scratched.
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I dont think there would be any visible damage to our eyes if oleophobic coating was scratched.. i'd feel its as easy to scratch as paint from metal or wall or wood so if you would be able to see oleophobic scratches my phone would already look like a scratch hell
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I dont think there would be any visible damage to our eyes if oleophobic coating was scratched.. i'd feel its as easy to scratch as paint from metal or wall or wood so if you would be able to see oleophobic scratches my phone would already look like a scratch hell
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It may be why folks are seeing superficial scuffs on the screen.
I've definitely seen oleophobic (or some other type of coating) get scratched on other devices. On my old HTC M8, it was reported by many users (myself included) that the coating on the back camera was getting scratched and peeling to the point that it clouded the photos. Removing the coating (various methods, most used alcohol, toothpaste, or some other mild solvent or abrasive) and the glass underneath was just fine (no scratches). This is probably a "worst case" example where the coating was particularly low quality. And just the camera glass, not the screen. But an example, nonetheless.
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I took it off from day one, and have regretted it ever since. I haven't dropped the phone nor put it in a pocket with anything else, yet I have two scratches... A light one in the top left corner of the phone and a deeper one I can feel with my nail in the centre. Not sure how but yeah...
So I'd keep it on if I were you.
OmJo93 said:
I took it off from day one, and have regretted it ever since. I haven't dropped the phone nor put it in a pocket with anything else, yet I have two scratches... A light one in the top left corner of the phone and a deeper one I can feel with my nail in the centre. Not sure how but yeah...
So I'd keep it on if I were you.
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There is no anti-scratch phone, If you care for your phone you'll need a screen protector,PERIOD.
Midomad said:
There is no scratch proof phone, If you care for your phone you'll need a screen protector,PERIOD.
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Yeah, I got a bit overconfident after watching JerryRigEverythings videos and took it off. A few months later I'm ordering a pack of screen protectors off Amazon and looking at maybe replacing the screen.
I still hope they are just in the oleophobic coating but doesn't seem likely. At least for the second one. And it's not really worth the risk of removing the coating to find out.
The 3T screen is pretty soft. I've owned this phone twice ([emoji38]), and both times just sliding in my pocket has created small scratches. The small scratches that you can only see, if you angle the phone in light, not a biggie, but if you have OCD..it will bug the heck out of you. Also if you ever sell, just know most OnePlus 3T screens will trend towards "good" vs mint.
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I dont think there would be any visible damage to our eyes if oleophobic coating was scratched.. i'd feel its as easy to scratch as paint from metal or wall or wood so if you would be able to see oleophobic scratches my phone would already look like a scratch hell
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The hair thin scratches are usually in oleophobic coating and not in glass, so yeah it's definitely visible.
Hello gyuz,
As mentioned in another thread in Accessories sub-forum, while Installing the Whitestone Dome Screen Protector (https://www.whitestonedome.com/) on my Samsung Galaxy Note 8, there was UV glue spillage all around the phone & now I have dried (UV cured) glue in the tiniest gap between the screen edges and the metal frame of the phone. Please check attached image, I have circled with red the exact location of the glue, however imagine this almost all around the phone:
Now I need a good UV glue remover to soften the dried glue and an extremely thin blade (or a similar tool) to reach in the gap and remove it. I saw some products on ebay, however I am not sure which will do the job.
First of all which Glue Remover is more suitable? Does it have to be a branded one? Or the unbranded ones will do the job as well? Is there danger that the remover will dry and stay in the gap making it worse? Will it damage the color or consistency of the metal frame? Will it damage the buttons (Power, Volum, Bixby)?
Secondly, which tool should do the job reaching such tiny gap while at the same time not scratching the screen or the metal frame? Metal Blade? Plastic Blade? Wire? Some other tool?
Please advise, as I am nearly desperate. Thank you!
Damn, I'm sorry you're having to deal with this. This is one of the biggest reasons why I don't use screen protectors on my phones. I've used a glass one on my Note 5 but didn't like it. Naked display feels the best and performs the best. Not fuss, no glue, no BS. Eeek!
roaduardo said:
Damn, I'm sorry you're having to deal with this. This is one of the biggest reasons why I don't use screen protectors on my phones. I've used a glass one on my Note 5 but didn't like it. Naked display feels the best and performs the best. Not fuss, no glue, no BS. Eeek!
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Agree with everything. if i had the chance again I would leave it naked, however I would still feel very uncomfortable without protection.. Actual screen exposed to everything is a little risky!
OP, wish I could advise you, but all I can say is take your time and don't rush this task. Since as you aware, you don't want to use a chemical or item that will damage the frame or buttons. Don't use any metal objects.
Feel for you bro, you go ahead with good intentions to protect your device and now in a predicament.
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OP, wish I could advise you, but all I can say is take your time and don't rush this task. Since as you aware, you don't want to use a chemical or item that will damage the frame or buttons. Don't use any metal objects.
Feel for you bro, you go ahead with good intentions to protect your device and now in a predicament.
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Thanks for your understanding mate. Indeed tried for the best and ended up worse.
I am not rushing for now, just conctacted Whitestone themselves asking advise on how to fix it, as well as an ebay seller that sells such equipment/tools. He suggested me these:
http://ebay.eu/2g3RySr
http://ebay.eu/2kATYJV
I am not sure about the quality of the Glue Remover and how thin the tools (blades & spudger) are though. Have to make a little research.
That is why also I opened the thread to ask for opinions from people that may have done this or similar task before and to help others in the future.
Warlord1981 said:
Thanks for your understanding mate. Indeed tried for the best and ended up worse.
I am not rushing for now, just conctacted Whitestone themselves asking advise on how to fix it, as well as an ebay seller that sells such equipment/tools. He suggested me these:
http://ebay.eu/2g3RySr
http://ebay.eu/2kATYJV
I am not sure about the quality of the Glue Remover and how thin the tools (blades & spudger) are though. Have to make a little research.
That is why also I opened the thread to ask for opinions from people that may have done this or similar task before and to help others in the future.
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Before using any chemicals, I would try and use the finest /thinnest plastic card or tool to scrape the glue out of the edges first. Chemicals would be my last resort. Good luck my friend.:good:
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Damn, I'm sorry you're having to deal with this. This is one of the biggest reasons why I don't use screen protectors on my phones. I've used a glass one on my Note 5 but didn't like it. Naked display feels the best and performs the best. Not fuss, no glue, no BS. Eeek!
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I have dropped my phones at least 5 times in the last year and each time it landed screen side down. I broke all 5 glass protectors but never the screen. That is why I must have a full adhesive glass protector on. It is a PITA to get perfect but for me, it's worth it.
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I have dropped my phones at least 5 times in the last year and each time it landed screen side down. I broke all 5 glass protectors but never the screen. That is why I must have a full adhesive glass protector on. It is a PITA to get perfect but for me, it's worth it.
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I understand, some people need it. I haven't chipped or broken a display since I had an iPhone. Knock wood. Naked is glorious, though.
Plastic tools and alcohol are your friends.
99% Isopropyl should be able to dissolve the glue, and shouldn't leave a mark on the phone (iso evaporates completely and is not dangerous to plastics or metals). A stiff bristled plastic brush would be ideal, maybe an old toothbrush. The thinner and stiffer the bristles, the better.
The iso will dissolve the glue, but you'll need to mechanically agitate it to remove it completely. Bear in mind that traces of iso having touched the glue will streak glass , so a second/third rinse with iso may be necessary.
I'd be careful about getting iso into the switches, as long term iso can degrade rubber (switch seals etc) but as long as you clean, then dry out effectively there shouldn't be an issue (iso will evaporate at room temp in any case). Covering the switches with tape could help, but iso is so thin it will probably go under the tape, and will likely dissolve the glue on the tape too!
e: Whatever you do don't use acetone or any other stronger solvent. Depending on the plastics used acetone will eat right through them, and may affect the finish on other parts too.
Iso really is a decent cleaning solution for most electronic devices.
e ii: Oh, and if you use an old toothbrush, make sure it's very clean. Getting some toothpaste grit on the screen and rubbing it in with a brush would be tragic. Maybe even buy a brand new brush just for this job? Not too expensive for the job, imho.
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Before using any chemicals, I would try and use the finest /thinnest plastic card or tool to scrape the glue out of the edges first. Chemicals would be my last resort. Good luck my friend.:good:
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Yes I'm trying to find such thin tool made of plastic. Cards are too thick for it. It needs to be so thin that can cut you..like razor blades maybe even thinner.
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Yes I'm trying to find such thin tool made of plastic. Cards are too thick for it. It needs to be so thin that can cut you..like razor blades maybe even thinner.
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Packaging plastic is often thin and stiff... Cut it into a triangle and see if you can get "under" the glue in the gap.
roaduardo said:
I understand, some people need it. I haven't chipped or broken a display since I had an iPhone. Knock wood. Naked is glorious, though.
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HAHAH, SNAP! Same here, last phone I ever broke was my last iphone I owned , it was the iphone 4s. That was when I was drinking also,
Nekid, is always glorious, without a shadow of a doubt. But I am too shy and need coverage.
iPhone screens can be so brittle. I got used to changing screens for friends at work. During lunch they'd bring me their replacement display kits that they ordered from Ebay and I'd replace their broken screen for some Subway (as payment).
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Yes I'm trying to find such thin tool made of plastic. Cards are too thick for it. It needs to be so thin that can cut you..like razor blades maybe even thinner.
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Indeed, but not metal.
What i used after installing the whitedome was a sheet of paper, running the corner around gap. Cleaned it easily this way.
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What i used after installing the whitedome was a sheet of paper, running the corner around gap. Cleaned it easily this way.
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I think OP needs something as thin but stiffer as his glue is cured fully now.
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I think OP needs something as thin but stiffer as his glue is cured fully now.
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The glue stays soft. If you run the paper around it, it will come up. After about a half a cycle thru, I would cut the edge of the paper each time so that I can continue with a firm edge. I did this after a week of installation.
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The glue stays soft. If you run the paper around it, it will come up. After about a half a cycle thru, I would cut the edge of the paper each time so that I can continue with a firm edge. I did this after a week of installation.
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Guyz you won't believe it! For the past 2 hours I was doing exactly that! Actually what worked best was a piece of paper that had the dust removal stickers on it (got it from the Olixar Sentinel Case/Screen Protector kit), which is more firm than plain A4 paper. And I was cutting it all the time to keep its sharpness. At some point it finished and I used just plain A4 paper, which wasn't the same but it kinda worked as well..
I was running it inch by inch around the whole frame, taking out glue (indeed soft) little by little! I think it's much better now, though I think I will do another round in the near future.
well after watching videos.. I could see I never needed ALL of that small tube of glue. I always use some kind of screen protector. I like to sell or give away. And you can ALWAYS tell the used phones that never had a screen protector. Always some kind of scratches.. For me selling it mint.. gets more money.
So use some kind of plastic not metal blade to get the excess glue off. It comes off so easily
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First of all which Glue Remover is more suitable? Does it have to be a branded one? Or the unbranded ones will do the job as well? Is there danger that the remover will dry and stay in the gap making it worse? Will it damage the color or consistency of the metal frame? Will it damage the buttons (Power, Volum, Bixby)?
Secondly, which tool should do the job reaching such tiny gap while at the same time not scratching the screen or the metal frame? Metal Blade? Plastic Blade? Wire? Some other tool?
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I had the same issue with mine and all I used is the film that you remove from the Glass protector before application.. cut off small squares and I ran that in the tiny gaps but making sure you don't go too deep.. Patience and time is must..
I do have a question though.. What is the best thing to use if I wanted to remove my protector off, clean the cured adhesive and use the 2nd bottle to reapply??